M4rtinK2 | run systemctl as root and grep the output for "sound" | 00:00 |
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M4rtinK2 | then check the corresponding unit files and targets :) | 00:00 |
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keithzg | I just cheated and chowned the relevant /run/user directory for nemo for the time being, heh, and re-launched pulse pointing it to a log file. | 00:01 |
keithzg | Sadly it shows nothing during the skips either. | 00:03 |
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keithzg | Well, time to go home, so no more multitasking on work and trying to solve issues with my Jolla, heh. I feel weirdly determined to pinpoint exactly what on the Jolla is screwing up on mono non-wave files lower than 44.1kHz, though. | 00:13 |
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covox | keithzg: I think I've experienced that too with some 22khz MP3s, does the playback position bounce around for you after the first few seconds? | 04:51 |
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covox | I assumed that was a gstreamer problem | 04:52 |
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Anz_ | hyvää cybette :) | 06:07 |
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Nicd- | good cybette? | 06:14 |
entil | o_O | 06:14 |
entil | ((partitive of) good) cybette? | 06:15 |
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Nicd- | woohoo, we're getting Qt 5.2 in the next update | 06:18 |
Stskeeps | i really underestimated the amount of tunnels on the railway line to turku. | 06:19 |
Jope | ears hurting? | 06:19 |
Stskeeps | nah, just bothered | 06:19 |
Stskeeps | i've tried flight with a serious sinus infection, that was painful | 06:20 |
Jope | btdt | 06:22 |
Jope | I got some unblocking nose drops from the flight attendants | 06:22 |
Jope | but it didn't help.. | 06:22 |
Jope | lhr -> hel with the feeling that my head's gonna explode was a bit painful | 06:22 |
tbr | yeah, although there are not really many hills or mountains in Finland, you have to still accout for the fact that everything is bare bedrock. so the slightest elevation needs trenches or tunnels blown out of the bedrock | 06:22 |
Jope | yep | 06:23 |
Nicd- | if you people like tunnels, you should visit the abandoned railway tunnel at Pönttövuori | 06:23 |
Jope | ze bedrock is only a few meters deep usually :-) | 06:23 |
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entil | I think the hki-tku highway was closer to a mining operation than road construction.. like nowhere do we have that many hills and valleys and tunnels | 06:23 |
Nicd- | http://imgur.com/a/yKvmA | 06:23 |
tbr | shore line and all that | 06:23 |
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entil | Nicd-: sweet | 06:24 |
tbr | cute | 06:25 |
Nicd- | it's a really spooky place. I recommend visiting sometime | 06:25 |
vispi | lair for trolls | 06:25 |
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Nicd- | though nowadays you have to crawl under the gate to get there | 06:25 |
tbr | I should try to find out about interesting abandoned places around Tampere | 06:26 |
Jope | as long as they're still there | 06:27 |
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Nicd- | tbr: http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._W._Enqvist_%28yritys%29#mediaviewer/Tiedosto:M-real_factory_in_Lielahti_Apr2009_003.jpg | 06:28 |
Nicd- | just visited that with my brother. not much activity, but some small parts are in use | 06:28 |
Jope | wasn't mreal torn down already | 06:28 |
Nicd- | it was closed in 2008 but the buildings are still there | 06:29 |
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Nicd- | and they're using the yard as storage | 06:29 |
Jope | ok :-) | 06:29 |
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Stskeeps | entil: btw beer 17:30 thursday if you didn't see | 06:36 |
entil | Stskeeps: I pinged sharpneli about it but he's not online | 06:38 |
Stskeeps | okie | 06:38 |
entil | tomorrow thursday at amsterdam? | 06:38 |
Stskeeps | yeah | 06:38 |
entil | sweet | 06:38 |
Stskeeps | maybe some others will join too | 06:38 |
Stskeeps | let's see | 06:38 |
entil | I'll note that in my calendar, thanks :) | 06:39 |
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Anz_ | Nicd-: entil hmm, didn't realize: knowing few lake names isn't sufficient to say bday greetings | 06:51 |
entil | oh bday | 06:52 |
entil | hyvää syntymäpäivää cybette | 06:52 |
entil | (colloquially "synttäriä" ;) | 06:52 |
Nicd- | it's cybette's birthday? yes, so it seems! happy birthday cybette! :) | 06:53 |
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muppeth | entil: in amsterdam? | 09:24 |
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meklu | muppeth: some bar in Ruoholahti(?), Helsinki | 09:25 |
sharpneli | Indeed. Right next to the Metro station. It used to be the go to place for everyone working at NRC | 09:27 |
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muppeth | ahhhh thought your are talking about amsterdam city :P too bad. | 09:35 |
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entil | muppeth: not this time around at least | 10:13 |
entil | sharpneli: and some of f-secure as well ;) | 10:13 |
entil | which is where I'm at nowadays | 10:13 |
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newin | hey all | 10:56 |
tadzik | hey newin | 11:01 |
Nicd- | hmm, my mom tried to call me but it went straight to voicemail | 11:02 |
Nicd- | is my jolla misguidedly trying to protect me? :) | 11:03 |
newin | It's been a looong time i haven't come here but I have a problem with my jolla and I need help... | 11:03 |
newin | i've a jolla for something like 1year and my battery life was really awesome (something like 4/5 days with normal usage) i've installed android support for kakaotalk 3 week ago and my battery like was somethink like 2/3 days... but since yesterday it's less than 12h ! =/ so anyone have an idea where it come from ? | 11:09 |
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dr_gogeta86 | hi Nicd- | 11:11 |
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Nicd- | hi dr_gogeta86 | 11:22 |
Stskeeps | Nicd-: sonera, LTE enabled but in a 2g area? | 11:23 |
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tbr | newin: did you restart your phone? | 11:23 |
Nicd- | Stskeeps: dna, no 4g in my contract | 11:23 |
Stskeeps | hmm | 11:23 |
Stskeeps | ok | 11:23 |
tbr | newin: did you change anything recently? updated apps? | 11:24 |
Nicd- | and in a 3g/4g area | 11:24 |
newin | yep, I've try to restart and the first time when battery life was draining fast my battery indicator was passed from "15%" to "86%" o_O | 11:27 |
newin | my last update was barcode scanner and katakana | 11:27 |
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tbr | what's katakana? | 11:29 |
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newin | a cool app to learn japanese characters =) | 11:30 |
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newin | (both app are sailfish native by the way) | 11:30 |
phdeswer | newin: check with top in the console (if you have developermode) or lighthouse (?) what processes are eating up cpu | 11:32 |
newin | i've already checked this with lighhouse and "lipstick" is always on top (as my first day with jolla...) | 11:34 |
newin | on top with 0% cpu btw... | 11:36 |
AL13N_work | i wish hiragana and katakana were in one single app | 11:36 |
AL13N_work | and that it would add a bit of easy kanji as well | 11:37 |
AL13N_work | newin: did you try the reverse free test? that's kinda hard | 11:37 |
newin | AL13N_work: completly ok, and audio for prononciation woud be cool ! | 11:37 |
AL13N_work | not a must for me (audio pronounciation), but sure | 11:38 |
newin | AL13N_work: and no i've not tried the reverse test because for now I need to learn korean (i will study in korean for 1 year next week) | 11:40 |
SK_work | newin: run csd from terminal, and check battery? | 11:40 |
newin | what is csd ? =O | 11:40 |
SK_work | newin: a diagnostic tool | 11:41 |
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newin | hum sounds interesting | 11:41 |
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newin | csd is a verry cool tool ! is there other hided tool like that ? | 12:03 |
ln- | *hided -> hidden | 12:05 |
newin | ln-: thx, i'm not english native (i'm french) | 12:06 |
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newin | SK_work: USB charging-> passed, discharging -> passed, Battery resistance->passed | 12:07 |
SK_work | check capacity | 12:08 |
SK_work | newin: check battery test | 12:08 |
newin | Voltage-> pass Energy->pass health->pass | 12:09 |
newin | capacity is 95.13% | 12:10 |
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SK_work | to see if it is app-related ? | 12:11 |
SK_work | try less heavy usage ? | 12:12 |
SK_work | newin: strange ... | 12:12 |
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fennekki | im having trouble with whatsapp simply not working since yesterday | 12:13 |
fennekki | err, mitäkuuluu* | 12:14 |
fennekki | anyome else having this? | 12:14 |
Nicd- | nope | 12:14 |
fennekki | damn, guess Ill remove configs | 12:17 |
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newin | SK_work: can an android launch a deamon ? I'm suspecting a deamon from kakaotalk making updates or things like this by itself | 12:44 |
SK_work | newin: | 12:44 |
SK_work | newin: yes | 12:44 |
SK_work | try by disabling aliendalivk | 12:44 |
SK_work | systemctl stop aliendalvik (as root) | 12:44 |
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newin | i've installed killdroid app... it work same way I presume | 12:47 |
SK_work | newin: not sure | 12:47 |
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SK_work | it might not *stop* aliendalvik | 12:48 |
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newin | by the way, what is lipstick ? | 12:54 |
Nicd- | lipstick is the UI | 12:54 |
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newin | okay ! thanks for all! | 12:56 |
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SK_work | newin: to be precise, lipstick is the homescreen | 13:05 |
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newin | okay, I think I will come more often here I learn a lot on jolla in only few minutes =D | 13:07 |
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tango_ | so, has anyone tried keeping the media player open for days? | 14:17 |
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tango_ | I suspect there's some kind of memory leak, it starts misbehaving after a while | 14:17 |
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newin | tango_: 24h no but something like 15h yes for me, and I haven't notice espetially heavy (i must admit I haven't checked the memory usage before and after) | 14:21 |
tango_ | newin: I haven't checked the memory usage either, this was more of a feeling after _days_ of continuous usage | 14:22 |
mcfrisk | tango_: I have media player up as long as jolla, upto a week, no problems | 14:22 |
tango_ | mcfrisk: many songs? | 14:22 |
mcfrisk | tango_: 20 gigs | 14:22 |
mcfrisk | song list cursor is a tiny dot, almost not visible so thousands of songs | 14:23 |
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mcfrisk | media player doesn't play all file formats well though, tjc had lower sample rate and mono stream issues reported, I see some ogg or mp3 files not playing at all, and some playlists always stop after first song when using suffle mode.. etc small issues here and there. | 14:25 |
tango_ | maybe my jolla doesn't like my songs | 14:26 |
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newin | no problem here and I've ogg mp3 and flac for 7.2 Go | 14:32 |
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newin | SK_work: that was the android app (i'm at less than 1%/h after stopping dalvik instead of 9%/h) | 16:28 |
SK_work | newin: interesting | 16:29 |
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newin | everyday a hate more and more android.... | 16:33 |
vispi | racism | 16:35 |
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chem|st | sledges: was it you I was talking about Qi? I got the farnell package | 16:36 |
sledges | nooice | 16:36 |
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sledges | let's take care now :) | 16:36 |
chem|st | I will test them first, then I will see if they fit under the hood | 16:37 |
chem|st | one is on a pretty thick metal sheet | 16:38 |
newin | vispi: I like IOS and windows phone, is just android with his heavyness and permanant compiling and broken jvm and I can continue all night long | 16:38 |
entil | I'd really like to use android for awhile | 16:38 |
entil | no idea how the different vendors alter them, for example | 16:39 |
entil | most of what I've seen means unintuitive slow and generally crappy ux but they sell like crazy so they must do something wrong.. maybe | 16:39 |
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sharpneli | And the constant changing of the ndk :E | 16:40 |
sharpneli | vispi: Long time no see. I bet you are the one who I think you are. :D | 16:40 |
newin | by the way i'm curious if it's possible to implement IOS app support... | 16:41 |
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sharpneli | I doubt it would be practical. In addition get ready for crushing lawsuit by Apple | 16:42 |
entil | firefox apps might be more feasible, being html5 afaik | 16:43 |
chem|st | sledges: forget it, they are bare coils... | 16:43 |
Yaniel | iOS apps might be possible but nobody is going to do that | 16:44 |
newin | I think it can be possible because both system are running native arm elf binary | 16:44 |
sledges | chem|st: picture ooi? | 16:44 |
chem|st | the farnell I sent you, I need to look it up... | 16:44 |
suosaaski | since most apps are android/ios anyway, there is no point in porting the ios version... | 16:44 |
suosaaski | not that I would know, just thinking :) | 16:45 |
sharpneli | newin: The work involved would be close to what is required to get Windows applications running on Linux. Massive amount of work in implementing the OS API's | 16:46 |
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Yaniel | + the entire objc runtime | 16:46 |
newin | suosaaski: that can be interesting in term of performance... | 16:47 |
chem|st | sledges: farnell 2400023 and 2056596 | 16:49 |
suosaaski | what would be interesting, would be to see ios run on "android hardware" and vice versa... | 16:49 |
suosaaski | and sailfish, too. | 16:49 |
locusf | sailfish already does | 16:50 |
vispi | sharpneli: sir yes sir | 16:50 |
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sharpneli | _o> | 16:52 |
suosaaski | locusf: not on iphone. | 16:52 |
locusf | suosaaski: yep | 16:52 |
sledges | chem|st: what's wrong with bare coils? (btw they aren't bare bare) | 16:52 |
coderus | Powermenu v0.2.4. Some new features and new icon by Morpog: https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/powermenu | 16:53 |
newin | (HS: if someone know how to read korean I need help to read help to write kakaotalk app...) | 16:54 |
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chem|st | sledges: AC/DC is wrong isnt it? | 16:57 |
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sledges | chem|st: if voltage characteristics match, then it's good | 16:58 |
chem|st | my charger does not put any power through | 16:58 |
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chem|st | that SIII thing does have alot of other hardware than just a bare coil | 16:59 |
sledges | chem|st: put it on multimeter | 16:59 |
TMavica | coderus: bugs found | 17:04 |
chem|st | sledges: 5V-AC | 17:06 |
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chem|st | sledges: just tried a fan, that is alternating | 17:07 |
coderus | TMavica: i know :) | 17:07 |
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TMavica | LOL | 17:10 |
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sledges | chem|st: yep, more toys you'll need then sadly | 17:12 |
sledges | wasn't it in product description? | 17:13 |
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FireFly | https://together.jolla.com/question/53917/resume-music-playback-once-ready-optionally/ thoughts on this? | 17:21 |
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chem|st | sledges: well I cannot find anything else - those are the only charging coils I could find apart of those Qi-Stickers on amazon/ebay/et al | 17:25 |
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noch | okay, my jolla phone reached Belgium, they was unable to find my friend, and it was sent back to Findland. Picked up in 3.46 PM, Vantaa FI. | 18:37 |
noch | and the problem is, my friend leaves in Aug 26. | 18:37 |
noch | so I'll be unable to get my jolla later. | 18:37 |
noch | Shell I contact Jolla somehow to ask to send it back again asap? | 18:38 |
chem|st | noch: where are you from? | 18:38 |
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chem|st | noch: don't ask to send it again if you cannot make sure that "your friend" has a valid address to ship to | 18:38 |
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noch | I am from Armenia. He is in Belgium till Aug 26. I've already bought it. He has a valid address, and he left a phone of a consierge. He said her that he expects a call from Fedex. But probably she did not answer the phone. | 18:40 |
noch | He has no phone. | 18:41 |
Sail0r | sounds a bit weird | 18:42 |
attah | Is it correct to suspect that the new connman was included in the latest patches? | 18:42 |
Stskeeps | attah: rpm -q --changelog connman | 18:43 |
* attah feels stupid | 18:45 | |
attah | so it seems that it isn't | 18:45 |
attah | oh wait.. i'm reading it wrong | 18:46 |
noch | I have sent mail to care@jolla.com | 18:46 |
Aciid | dontcare@jolla.com | 18:47 |
attah | So now for my problem.. my phone sticks on the work wifi and doesn't connect when i get home. It shows cellular, but in the list it says connected on work wifi, and home wifi is highlighted. | 18:49 |
attah | Anyone else seen this? Maybe know of a TJC that i didn't see? Or are there logs that i can povide? | 18:50 |
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coderus | attah: i seen this once but cant reproduce anymore | 19:10 |
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attah | coderus: ok.. I've had it twice this week, maybe all 3 days | 19:11 |
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coderus | sometimes your work doesn't let you go home :D | 19:19 |
attah | Tell me about it :( | 19:20 |
attah | But i'm just a lowly consultant.. and we can't have remote access... | 19:20 |
attah | Probably has a positive impact on my sanity | 19:22 |
Stskeeps | u+huh | 19:22 |
Stskeeps | ÖP | 19:22 |
Stskeeps | er.. damn finnish keyboard | 19:22 |
jake9xx | is the bt stuff imrproving with sept. release? | 19:23 |
jake9xx | on android side, that is | 19:23 |
attah | btw.. who to poke to have the calendar time selection fixed? | 19:25 |
coderus | tjc? | 19:26 |
Shinryuu | I'm getting paranoid | 19:28 |
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Shinryuu | I believe my mobile network was connected today even it shouldn't have | 19:28 |
attah | coderus: was that for my last q? if so.. it's already there since it opened... | 19:29 |
attah | (dec 25) | 19:29 |
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Shinryuu | C_C | 19:29 |
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coderus | attah: ask more peoples to vote for :) | 19:32 |
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attah | Vote, vote, vote! https://together.jolla.com/question/2132/new-calendar-entries-default-to-the-wrong-date/ | 19:33 |
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Shinryuu | there's a patch available in that link but is that an option for you? | 19:35 |
attah | Shinryuu: I made the patch ;) | 19:35 |
Shinryuu | oh.. oh boy! | 19:35 |
attah | Just getting tired of keeping it up-to date when it moves around in the qml | 19:36 |
attah | ...and maybe more people want it.. i hope... | 19:36 |
Shinryuu | yeah.. that makes things harder | 19:36 |
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Shinryuu | I wonder if usb tethering method comes in some future updates | 19:38 |
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coderus | Shinryuu: http://paste.kde.org/pwas4nzex | 19:38 |
Shinryuu | I have a bit different one but that looks cleaner because it behaves differently | 19:39 |
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Shinryuu | time to put it in | 19:39 |
coderus | ./script gprs0 rndis0 :) | 19:40 |
coderus | or even ./script wlan0 rndis0 :) | 19:40 |
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Shinryuu | hehe | 19:40 |
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attah | Shamelessly bumps TJC post, receives badge "Associate Editor"... misread that a bit at first :P | 19:44 |
Stskeeps | asshole editor? :P | 19:44 |
attah | Yep | 19:44 |
Stskeeps | hehe | 19:45 |
attah | kinda close to the truth.. | 19:45 |
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AJAX555 | just out of curiosity: is it possible to add animated gif as ambience background? | 19:48 |
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Stskeeps | prolly not | 19:49 |
Shinryuu | closest thing I can find, https://together.jolla.com/question/21640/animated-gif-support-for-ambiences-on-lock-screen/ | 19:50 |
AJAX555 | heh, would be nice to try it, but if there's no support (atleast yet) I wont even try | 19:50 |
Shinryuu | :P | 19:55 |
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phdeswer | Shinryuu: pkcon install usb-moded-connection-sharing-android-config | 20:00 |
Shinryuu | interesting | 20:00 |
phdeswer | Can't be shipped officially atm due to UI/roaming. | 20:03 |
phdeswer | And Apple not supporting common standards. You might need to reboot after install to get the UI to update correctly. | 20:04 |
Shinryuu | well, I'll try that out too but running a script or two isn't that time taking for me | 20:07 |
phdeswer | Shinryuu: well that is just tapping internet sharing when plugging in the usb. NAT and dhcp server on device. So everything is automatic (except if you hook it up to a mac, then you need Horndis installed first) | 20:09 |
Shinryuu | yep, I noticed that horndis was needed when I tried usb tethering with my friend's mac | 20:11 |
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Shinryuu | but I'm on a penguin box here so no problems | 20:11 |
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Shinryuu | time to fiddle with things | 20:12 |
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rysiek|pl | damn | 21:52 |
rysiek|pl | ownCloud clendar sync doesn't work for me | 21:52 |
rysiek|pl | I added two caldav instances | 21:52 |
rysiek|pl | and both aren't working | 21:53 |
rysiek|pl | the calendars are not being discovered | 21:53 |
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louisdk | HI | 22:05 |
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tadzik | hi | 22:06 |
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rysiek|pl | low | 22:08 |
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chem|st | lower | 22:20 |
chem|st | rysiek|pl: do you see the calendars in the jolla calendar and no items or no calendar at all? | 22:21 |
chem|st | I see calendars but it does not sync | 22:21 |
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rysiek|pl | chem|st: I only see the local Jolla calendars (Private, Birthdays, or some such) | 22:28 |
rysiek|pl | chem|st: no items, no ownCLoud-related calendars | 22:28 |
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rysiek|pl | chem|st: once I *add* a caldav account I can see a PROPFIND request in the server logs | 22:29 |
rysiek|pl | chem|st: after that, all's quiet on the western front | 22:29 |
rysiek|pl | chem|st: even if I ask Jolla to sync, there are no new requests visible in server logs | 22:30 |
rysiek|pl | tested with 2 different servers, both running owncloud 7.0.x | 22:30 |
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chem|st | rysiek|pl: have you tried to trigger by hand on CLI? | 23:35 |
chem|st | I do not see all day events for now... | 23:35 |
chem|st | in $HOME/.cache/msyncd/sync are the profiles listed, you may call dbus for | 23:37 |
chem|st | see https://together.jolla.com/question/49811/trigger-caldav-sync-from-command-line/ | 23:37 |
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chem|st | rysiek|pl: if you have https active and an unknown cert, you need to load the owncloud site in the browser to accept the certificate before it is going to work | 23:39 |
chem|st | if owncloud is updated and the php scripts did not run yet, it wont work either | 23:39 |
chem|st | that should be all I know so far | 23:39 |
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