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| kimmoli | NO-OPT-OUT http://www.thedenverchannel.com/thenow/apple-gives-away-the-new-u2-album-for-free-but-it-will-cost-itunes-users-25-to-delete-it | 05:01 |
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| Pawky | so... is there still no one who wants to shine some light upon multicast not working for apps in the Alien Dalvik? | 09:10 |
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| Stskeeps | Pawky: somebody had similar issue with some lightbulbs but found a solution afaik | 09:17 |
| Nickleu | I'm experiencing a shutdown problem here | 09:17 |
| Stskeeps | Nickleu: you're on latest update? | 09:17 |
| Nickleu | yeah | 09:17 |
| Stskeeps | contact care as a start | 09:17 |
| Nickleu | removing the battery for a few secs just solved it | 09:17 |
| Nickleu | I'm not sure if it'll happen again | 09:18 |
| Nickleu | i guess it's a hardware problem | 09:19 |
| tbr | Nickleu: try cleaning the battery contacts, both sides, avoid touching them with your fingers | 09:29 |
| tbr | Nickleu: it's most likely to happen if you are on 2G/GSM and take a phone call or have lots of data going over the GPRS/EDGE connection | 09:30 |
| Nickleu | tbr: thx i will try it out later | 09:31 |
| tadzik | hmm, where do I look for warehouse logs? It's acting funny for me recently | 09:31 |
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| Nickleu | tbr: btw what should use to clean it | 09:32 |
| tbr | Nickleu: ideally something for cleaning electrical contacts, but a hard rubber eraser (blue side of red blue) will do. If all else fails take a flat screw driver and _gently_ swipe the surfaces on both sides repeatedly without applying pressure | 09:33 |
| * tbr is not responsible if you break something | 09:33 | |
| Nickleu | wow i guess a rubber eraser will do | 09:36 |
| Nickleu | tbr: thx a lot | 09:36 |
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| Nicd- | *or* you could just take it to care to avoid breaking it | 09:41 |
| kimmoli | my 13yr old daughter cleaned her jolla batterycontacts, and now reboots since | 09:43 |
| kimmoli | now/NO | 09:43 |
| oh8gnz | clever daughter you have | 09:44 |
| kimmoli | but i missed my chance to test contact-lubricant :( | 09:44 |
| Nickleu | so far my jolla is doing good ,next time it happen i will try to clean the battery contacts | 09:45 |
| oh8gnz | I haven't got rebooting problems.. some weird crashes time to time | 09:46 |
| phlixi | maybe by chance someone could clarify, is "contact-lubricant" what I know as "Kontakt Spray" (germany)? | 09:46 |
| kimmoli | yes, kinda like that | 09:46 |
| phlixi | ...or is this something like "Kontakt Spray", but without the "spray" :-) (or something totaly differnent?) | 09:46 |
| kimmoli | this is electrolube CG60 | 09:46 |
| phlixi | btw kimmoli: thanks for the tip with your app yesterday, I will keep an eye on some "charging weirdnesses" with that | 09:47 |
| kimmoli | basil's system monitor daemon should be (soon) able to do same thing, i haven't checked is all those voltages and stuff included yet there | 09:48 |
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| coderus | kimmoli: why not? you can use lubricant in any moment :) | 09:52 |
| kimmoli | urf | 09:53 |
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| coderus | :D | 09:54 |
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| tbr | phlixi: I wouldn't buy it just for that. It's a suggestion for those who have it already. | 10:01 |
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| phlixi | i was just curios, i have a red-blue rubber, and i have no reboot-problems (since, idk, maybe feb/march) | 10:02 |
| TMavica_Jolla | ridiculous iphone 6 plus gold brand new from apple shop can sell 20k HKD | 10:02 |
| tbr | phlixi: but yeah, something like Kontakt60. keyword being "Oxidlösend" | 10:02 |
| phlixi | on the otherhand, i dont know if i would feel comfortable "spraying" something in there... | 10:03 |
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| tbr | one should exercise care when applying | 10:03 |
| phlixi | maybe i would put something on the rubber :) | 10:03 |
| tbr | phlixi: I would not. spray into the can cap, dunk qtip, wipe with the q-tip | 10:04 |
| tbr | afterwards wipe off excess from all other surfaces, especially plastic | 10:04 |
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| kimmoli | thats why i have this "cyringe" stuff, and i'm going to apply it to not-my-own phone first | 10:15 |
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| phlixi | not-my-own phone first is a good approach... :-) | 10:17 |
| phlixi | especially if the outcome of your limited mechanical skills looks like that http://phlixi.de/filedump/qioh.png :-) | 10:18 |
| TMavica_Jolla | anyone tried use zramcfg? | 10:18 |
| r0kk3rz | kimmoli: are you using NFC for any of your TOHs? | 10:26 |
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| r0kk3rz | or are you using the EEPROM for that functionality instead | 10:27 |
| tbr | phlixi: wha? | 10:28 |
| kimmoli | r0kk3rz: both | 10:28 |
| kimmoli | NFC for my ambience+autoload sw from jollastore, eeprom to start it with udev | 10:29 |
| r0kk3rz | where did you get your tags from? | 10:29 |
| kimmoli | nfc-tag.de | 10:30 |
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| kimmoli | shorter findings http://www.nfc-tag.de/nfc-sticker/2/ntag203-sticker-midas-12x19mm-168-byte | 10:32 |
| r0kk3rz | cool, thanks | 10:33 |
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| tadzik | Uitukka! | 10:44 |
| tadzik | (delayed) | 10:47 |
| meklu | huh? | 10:50 |
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| tadzik | "we need a few weeks more because Qt 5.2", more details on tjc | 10:53 |
| * tbr checks | 10:53 | |
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| meklu | ah, okay | 10:53 |
| Nicd- | https://together.jolla.com/question/55909/offical-annoucement-uitukka-is-just-around-the-corner-hold-on/ | 10:53 |
| Nicd- | I *told* you they would delay it every time you people asked where it was! | 10:54 |
| BasilSemuonov | seems like location/postion apps are going to hit harbour soon | 10:54 |
| BasilSemuonov | *position | 10:54 |
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| meklu | that doesn't seem to be related to asking though ;_; | 10:56 |
| meklu | I'd say it's good though that they'll be doing some extra polishing on it | 10:56 |
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| tbr | some friction around landing an qt update had to be expected | 10:58 |
| Nicd- | the name kind of seems nsfwish in finnish ;) | 11:00 |
| Stskeeps | hmm? | 11:01 |
| Teme | ? | 11:01 |
| * Teme is finnish and does not get it | 11:01 | |
| Nicd- | ui = wi = vi when you say it fast | 11:01 |
| Nicd- | but maybe I am childish | 11:01 |
| Teme | :D | 11:01 |
| Teme | that is quite a stretch | 11:01 |
| Teme | but i see it | 11:01 |
| meklu | quite indeed | 11:02 |
| tbr | stretch it a bit more and it becomes Uituksu (whatever that combination would mean) | 11:02 |
| meklu | "ui, tuksu" | 11:02 |
| tbr | yeah | 11:02 |
| meklu | I doubt anyone who values their vision would want to witness that | 11:02 |
| mdxth_ | Tuksu.. | 11:02 |
| tbr | so will the update screen be hot pink? | 11:02 |
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| r0kk3rz | care to explain for us non-finns? | 11:21 |
| tbr | r0kk3rz: if you dare, google image search for "tuksu" | 11:22 |
| tadzik | oh | 11:22 |
| r0kk3rz | that sounds like asking someone to gooogle goatse | 11:22 |
| tadzik | it | 11:22 |
| tadzik | it's..close | 11:22 |
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| tbr | painfully close | 11:24 |
| tbr | cannot be unseen | 11:24 |
| r0kk3rz | ah, i understand | 11:25 |
| meklu | an obnoxious person and a b-list celebrity | 11:25 |
| meklu | who doesn't look too great | 11:26 |
| r0kk3rz | wikipedia saves the day | 11:30 |
| r0kk3rz | no harmful imagery, but a reasonable idea of what you guys are on about | 11:30 |
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| kimmoli | lol | 11:32 |
| kimmoli | UI-tukka, is a hairy user interface? no? | 11:33 |
| meklu | no, it's a user interface for your hair | 11:33 |
| meklu | or hair that happens to be a user interface | 11:34 |
| meklu | hmm. | 11:34 |
| kimmoli | pull my hair - starts app ? | 11:34 |
| inz | pull my finger, something completely different happens | 11:35 |
| kimmoli | we are entering fingerpori soon... | 11:36 |
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| meklu | inb4 "tulit mieleen" | 11:36 |
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| Teme | or "tähän on tultu" | 11:42 |
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| kimmoli | ohyes one more. "suvisaariston munaa" | 11:45 |
| mdxth_ | "juhannussijaa vailla" | 11:45 |
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| kimmoli | n | 11:46 |
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| Teme | rude finnish people on an english-only chan :P | 11:48 |
| ighea_ | rude finns the only kind | 11:52 |
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| meklu | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En5M7oBdJP4 | 13:02 |
| meklu | http://senseg.com/developers/dev-kit | 13:02 |
| meklu | that seems interesting | 13:02 |
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| SK_work | the iekku cat, thanks coderus : https://twitter.com/iCODeRUS/status/510432406566760448 | 14:29 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | SK_work, funny | 14:50 |
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| coderus | you welcome :D | 14:53 |
| SK_work | :) | 14:54 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | all drinking beers ? | 15:30 |
| Stskeeps | no, not yet | 15:30 |
| dr_gogeta86 | i wanna taste some baltic porters | 15:31 |
| dr_gogeta86 | but are almost unavailable here | 15:31 |
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| TMavica | Jolla sail to Namibia...LOL.. | 16:08 |
| Stskeeps | at least it's not land locked.. | 16:10 |
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| iekku | SK_work, ahahahhaa :D even more funny: my irc.net nick is "noita" = "witch" | 17:12 |
| SK_work | :) | 17:12 |
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| coderus | Exclusive photo & video of brand new WindUp TOH for Jolla from BasilSemuonov: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/bcawqj0vubknxsg/AAAZJf3il730wgReUIqFyiQKa | 17:34 |
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| Stskeeps | isn't that the tizen logo? | 17:36 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 17:36 |
| r0kk3rz | hah | 17:38 |
| r0kk3rz | i wonder if you could make a hand crank charger TOH | 17:39 |
| SK_work | Jolla, now supporting Tizen :) | 17:39 |
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| TMavica | LOL. | 17:42 |
| cardinal | lol | 17:42 |
| TMavica | wind power toh? | 17:42 |
| r0kk3rz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanically_powered_flashlight#Crank_powered_design << like that, survival TOH | 17:45 |
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| Sail0r | why did funkyotherhalf remove all their products | 18:10 |
| Sail0r | except solar toh | 18:10 |
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| coderus | to promote? :) | 18:15 |
| ShadowJK | Didn't someone say his 3D printer was overbooked... | 18:15 |
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| r0kk3rz | need an injection moulder | 18:31 |
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| kimmoli | dirk needs to print all current orders first, dont know exact count. but each print has been a battle of its own. | 18:44 |
| kimmoli | solar and diptoh are made-in-shapeways. combined my good results with toholed rev6 design. | 18:46 |
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| ShadowJK | Once you guys master 3D printing, you can begin fighting with injection moulding ;-) | 18:55 |
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| Nicd- | my jolla isn't sending contacts to my google account :( | 19:10 |
| faenil | Nicd-: mine used to send 5 for each contact ;) | 19:12 |
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| Nicd- | "google-contacts-client Invalid detail type: 0" | 19:13 |
| Nicd- | and that sort of stuff | 19:13 |
| faenil | chriadam: ^ | 19:15 |
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| ballock | Was the Jolla powering-itself-off problem fixed? I mean, I tried the first thing mentioned by Stskeeps (I hope he's got a autoresponder for that) with battery out for 15 mins, but it's coming back, | 20:00 |
| Stskeeps | contact care :P | 20:00 |
| ballock | so I'd like to know if I should try resetting to factory, adding some paper to the battery, or it's actually hardware | 20:00 |
| ballock | ...or can I say something from looking at the logs | 20:01 |
| ballock | well, those are gone after the reboot, so fishy, but still. | 20:01 |
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| ballock | yes, Stskeeps, I know that was your fallback answer, read that too :p | 20:02 |
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| ninnnu | "Contact Care" is the default answer, but has it really helped those who have done so? | 20:08 |
| Nicd- | it helped for me | 20:08 |
| ballock | ok, another one, connman: I have 2 APs, Cisco and Linksys; connman goes berserk with the Cisco one. Unlike any other hardware. | 20:08 |
| ninnnu | Nicd-: What did they do? Replace the phone/battery? | 20:08 |
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| ballock | (and at one point it went so twisted it thought my wifi is available wherever I go) | 20:10 |
| Nicd- | ninnnu: they replaced the SIM holder | 20:12 |
| ninnnu | Nicd-: huh | 20:12 |
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| ballock | 'and another one: has anybody done anything for FingerTerm? Like a fork with better... everything? | 20:13 |
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| Stskeeps | well, it's oss.. | 20:14 |
| Stskeeps | and i think thp worked on a silica version | 20:15 |
| ballock | link? | 20:19 |
| faenil | ballock: https://github.com/nemomobile/fingerterm/tree/silica | 20:19 |
| ballock | Nicd-: did you need to pay for postage? It might be cheaper for me to fix it with local wisdom. | 20:19 |
| Nicd- | ballock: no, it was free to send as a letter | 20:20 |
| ballock | Letter??! With regular post? No insurance? | 20:20 |
| Nicd- | I made a padded package myself that was just small enough to be considered as a maxi size letter | 20:20 |
| Nicd- | I guess I have too much faith in the finnish post | 20:21 |
| Stskeeps | if i remember correctly ballock is in poland.. they lost my university master's degree 3 times. | 20:21 |
| Stskeeps | +diploma | 20:22 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 20:22 |
| ballock | Well, it's Polish post -> something in between -> Finnish post | 20:22 |
| ballock | I lost a set of harp strings sent from France | 20:22 |
| Shinryuu | :o | 20:22 |
| ballock | and a postcard sent from Poland to Irland went like 2 months | 20:23 |
| Shinryuu | I've only lost some small switches for mouse stuff.. | 20:23 |
| Shinryuu | like under 5$ or so | 20:23 |
| Shinryuu | or ehrm, actually € | 20:23 |
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| Nicd- | I have never lost anything in the mail | 20:24 |
| Shinryuu | Finnish post is interesting because when you buy some stuff from Asia/USA etc. with DHL, it's in the main capital of Finland under 2 days... but in Finland it takes 2-3 days to arrive at my house :D | 20:24 |
| ballock | I guess it's not that bad, but... I'm a little afraid to send this with no insurance. | 20:24 |
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| Shinryuu | at=in* | 20:25 |
| ballock | The carriers don't care about the glass sign on packages. | 20:25 |
| Shinryuu | heh.. yeah + custom stuff | 20:25 |
| ballock | I recently found why they no longer do - I ordered something, came in a tube, half a meter x 5cm diameter, with a glass "careful" sign on it. | 20:26 |
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| Shinryuu | also I've noticed that there is only one ride from capital to other cities in a day... so if your timing is bad = you have to wait for one extra day for it to proceed | 20:27 |
| ballock | It contained a concrete drill; 1.5kg. | 20:27 |
| ballock | Read: "Careful, don't drop it or you may break the floor". | 20:28 |
| Shinryuu | :P | 20:28 |
| Shinryuu | I once sent a laptop from 100km away to one person.. it cost me 20€ | 20:28 |
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| Shinryuu | like.. what the heck | 20:28 |
| ballock | this one, if anyone's interested | 20:29 |
| ballock | http://allegro.pl/show_item.php?item=4425559114 | 20:29 |
| Shinryuu | haha.. oh wow | 20:29 |
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| Morpog_PC__ | interesting blog entry by w00t, does that mean we need to wait till we get qt 5.4 on our jolla to get those improvements, or are they backported to qt 5.2? | 20:58 |
| Morpog_PC__ | http://t.co/vo16CHECdL | 20:59 |
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| w00t | Morpog_PC__: all work we've been doing has been upstreamed (like that), but will of course be available backported to the release in mer | 20:59 |
| w00t | Morpog_PC__: that particular one won't cause any visible change, though, as we had already solved the same problem in a different (but not ideal/non-upstreamable) way previously | 21:00 |
| Morpog_PC__ | the actual release in mer or the upcoming one (aka 5.4)? | 21:00 |
| w00t | in mer | 21:00 |
| Morpog_PC__ | ah ok | 21:00 |
| Morpog_PC__ | still great to see it was upstreamed | 21:00 |
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| w00t | :) | 21:08 |
| skvark | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93846 | 21:10 |
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| h4PPYC4T | does anyone know a nice terminal client for sailfish? the onboard terminal client of sailfish is good in general, but not very suitable for chatting via irssi - i'm looking for one which uses the "stock"-virtual-keyboard because of the "word-completition". | 23:59 |
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