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kimmoliNO-OPT-OUT http://www.thedenverchannel.com/thenow/apple-gives-away-the-new-u2-album-for-free-but-it-will-cost-itunes-users-25-to-delete-it05:01
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gexcupdate Friday?06:22
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Pawkyso... is there still no one who wants to shine some light upon multicast not working for apps in the Alien Dalvik?09:10
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StskeepsPawky: somebody had similar issue with some lightbulbs but found a solution afaik09:17
NickleuI'm experiencing a shutdown problem here09:17
StskeepsNickleu: you're on latest update?09:17
Nickleuyeah09:17
Stskeepscontact care as a start09:17
Nickleuremoving the battery for a few secs just solved it09:17
NickleuI'm not sure if it'll happen again09:18
Nickleui guess it's a hardware problem09:19
tbrNickleu: try cleaning the battery contacts, both sides, avoid touching them with your fingers09:29
tbrNickleu: it's most likely to happen if you are on 2G/GSM and take a phone call or have lots of data going over the GPRS/EDGE connection09:30
Nickleutbr: thx i will try it out later09:31
tadzikhmm, where do I look for warehouse logs? It's acting funny for me recently09:31
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Nickleutbr: btw what should use to clean it09:32
tbrNickleu: ideally something for cleaning electrical contacts, but a hard rubber eraser (blue side of red blue) will do. If all else fails take a flat screw driver and _gently_ swipe the surfaces on both sides repeatedly without applying pressure09:33
* tbr is not responsible if you break something09:33
Nickleuwow i guess a rubber eraser will do09:36
Nickleutbr: thx a lot09:36
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Nicd-*or* you could just take it to care to avoid breaking it09:41
kimmolimy 13yr old daughter cleaned her jolla batterycontacts, and now reboots since09:43
kimmolinow/NO09:43
oh8gnzclever daughter you have09:44
kimmolibut i missed my chance to test contact-lubricant :(09:44
Nickleuso far my jolla is doing good ,next time it happen i will try to clean the battery contacts09:45
oh8gnzI haven't got rebooting problems.. some weird crashes time to time09:46
phliximaybe by chance someone could clarify, is "contact-lubricant" what I know as "Kontakt Spray" (germany)?09:46
kimmoliyes, kinda like that09:46
phlixi...or is this something like "Kontakt Spray", but without the "spray" :-) (or something totaly differnent?)09:46
kimmolithis is electrolube CG6009:46
phlixibtw kimmoli: thanks for the tip with your app yesterday, I will keep an eye on some "charging weirdnesses" with that09:47
kimmolibasil's system monitor daemon should be (soon) able to do same thing, i haven't checked is all those voltages and stuff included yet there09:48
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coderuskimmoli: why not? you can use lubricant in any moment :)09:52
kimmoliurf09:53
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coderus:D09:54
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tbrphlixi: I wouldn't buy it just for that. It's a suggestion for those who have it already.10:01
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phlixii was just curios, i have a red-blue rubber, and i have no reboot-problems (since, idk, maybe feb/march)10:02
TMavica_Jollaridiculous iphone 6 plus gold brand new from apple shop can sell 20k HKD10:02
tbrphlixi: but yeah, something like Kontakt60. keyword being "Oxidlösend"10:02
phlixion the otherhand, i dont know if i would feel comfortable "spraying" something in there...10:03
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tbrone should exercise care when applying10:03
phliximaybe i would put something on the rubber :)10:03
tbrphlixi: I would not. spray into the can cap, dunk qtip, wipe with the q-tip10:04
tbrafterwards wipe off excess from all other surfaces, especially plastic10:04
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kimmolithats why i have this "cyringe" stuff, and i'm going to apply it to not-my-own phone first10:15
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phlixinot-my-own phone first is a good approach... :-)10:17
phlixiespecially if the outcome of your limited mechanical skills looks like that http://phlixi.de/filedump/qioh.png :-)10:18
TMavica_Jollaanyone tried use zramcfg?10:18
r0kk3rzkimmoli: are you using NFC for any of your TOHs?10:26
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r0kk3rzor are you using the EEPROM for that functionality instead10:27
tbrphlixi: wha?10:28
kimmolir0kk3rz: both10:28
kimmoliNFC for my ambience+autoload sw from jollastore, eeprom to start it with udev10:29
r0kk3rzwhere did you get your tags from?10:29
kimmoli nfc-tag.de10:30
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kimmolishorter findings http://www.nfc-tag.de/nfc-sticker/2/ntag203-sticker-midas-12x19mm-168-byte10:32
r0kk3rzcool, thanks10:33
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tadzikUitukka!10:44
tadzik(delayed)10:47
mekluhuh?10:50
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tadzik"we need a few weeks more because Qt 5.2", more details on tjc10:53
* tbr checks10:53
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mekluah, okay10:53
Nicd-https://together.jolla.com/question/55909/offical-annoucement-uitukka-is-just-around-the-corner-hold-on/10:53
Nicd-I *told* you they would delay it every time you people asked where it was!10:54
BasilSemuonovseems like location/postion apps are going to hit harbour soon10:54
BasilSemuonov*position10:54
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mekluthat doesn't seem to be related to asking though ;_;10:56
mekluI'd say it's good though that they'll be doing some extra polishing on it10:56
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tbrsome friction around landing an qt update had to be expected10:58
Nicd-the name kind of seems nsfwish in finnish ;)11:00
Stskeepshmm?11:01
Teme?11:01
* Teme is finnish and does not get it11:01
Nicd-ui = wi = vi when you say it fast11:01
Nicd-but maybe I am childish11:01
Teme:D11:01
Temethat is quite a stretch11:01
Temebut i see it11:01
mekluquite indeed11:02
tbrstretch it a bit more and it becomes Uituksu (whatever that combination would mean)11:02
meklu"ui, tuksu"11:02
tbryeah11:02
mekluI doubt anyone who values their vision would want to witness that11:02
mdxth_Tuksu..11:02
tbrso will the update screen be hot pink?11:02
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r0kk3rzcare to explain for us non-finns?11:21
tbrr0kk3rz: if you dare, google image search for "tuksu"11:22
tadzikoh11:22
r0kk3rzthat sounds like asking someone to gooogle goatse11:22
tadzikit11:22
tadzikit's..close11:22
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tbrpainfully close11:24
tbrcannot be unseen11:24
r0kk3rzah, i understand11:25
mekluan obnoxious person and a b-list celebrity11:25
mekluwho doesn't look too great11:26
r0kk3rzwikipedia saves the day11:30
r0kk3rzno harmful imagery, but a reasonable idea of what you guys are on about11:30
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kimmolilol11:32
kimmoliUI-tukka, is a hairy user interface? no?11:33
mekluno, it's a user interface for your hair11:33
mekluor hair that happens to be a user interface11:34
mekluhmm.11:34
kimmolipull my hair - starts app ?11:34
inzpull my finger, something completely different happens11:35
kimmoliwe are entering fingerpori soon...11:36
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mekluinb4 "tulit mieleen"11:36
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Temeor "tähän on tultu"11:42
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kimmoliohyes one more. "suvisaariston munaa"11:45
mdxth_"juhannussijaa vailla"11:45
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kimmolin11:46
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Temerude finnish people on an english-only chan :P11:48
ighea_rude finns the only kind11:52
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mekluhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En5M7oBdJP413:02
mekluhttp://senseg.com/developers/dev-kit13:02
mekluthat seems interesting13:02
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SK_workthe iekku cat, thanks coderus : https://twitter.com/iCODeRUS/status/51043240656676044814:29
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dr_gogeta86SK_work, funny14:50
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coderusyou welcome :D14:53
SK_work:)14:54
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dr_gogeta86all drinking beers ?15:30
Stskeepsno, not yet15:30
dr_gogeta86i wanna taste some baltic porters15:31
dr_gogeta86but are almost unavailable here15:31
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TMavicaJolla sail to Namibia...LOL..16:08
Stskeepsat least it's not land locked..16:10
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iekkuSK_work, ahahahhaa :D even more funny: my irc.net nick is "noita" = "witch"17:12
SK_work:)17:12
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coderusExclusive photo & video of brand new WindUp TOH for Jolla from BasilSemuonov: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/bcawqj0vubknxsg/AAAZJf3il730wgReUIqFyiQKa17:34
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Stskeepsisn't that the tizen logo?17:36
Stskeeps:P17:36
r0kk3rzhah17:38
r0kk3rzi wonder if you could make a hand crank charger TOH17:39
SK_workJolla, now supporting Tizen :)17:39
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TMavicaLOL.17:42
cardinallol17:42
TMavicawind power toh?17:42
r0kk3rzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanically_powered_flashlight#Crank_powered_design << like that, survival TOH17:45
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Sail0rwhy did funkyotherhalf remove all their products18:10
Sail0rexcept solar toh18:10
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coderusto promote? :)18:15
ShadowJKDidn't someone say his 3D printer was overbooked...18:15
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r0kk3rzneed an injection moulder18:31
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kimmolidirk needs to print all current orders first, dont know exact count. but each print has been a battle of its own.18:44
kimmolisolar and diptoh are made-in-shapeways. combined my good results with toholed rev6 design.18:46
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ShadowJKOnce you guys master 3D printing, you can begin fighting with injection moulding ;-)18:55
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Nicd-my jolla isn't sending contacts to my google account :(19:10
faenilNicd-: mine used to send 5 for each contact ;)19:12
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Nicd-"google-contacts-client Invalid detail type: 0"19:13
Nicd-and that sort of stuff19:13
faenilchriadam: ^19:15
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ballockWas the Jolla powering-itself-off problem fixed? I mean, I tried the first thing mentioned by Stskeeps (I hope he's got a autoresponder for that) with battery out for 15 mins, but it's coming back,20:00
Stskeepscontact care :P20:00
ballockso I'd like to know if I should try resetting to factory, adding some paper to the battery, or it's actually hardware20:00
ballock...or can I say something from looking at the logs20:01
ballockwell, those are gone after the reboot, so fishy, but still.20:01
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ballockyes, Stskeeps, I know that was your fallback answer, read that too :p20:02
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ninnnu"Contact Care" is the default answer, but has it really helped those who have done so?20:08
Nicd-it helped for me20:08
ballockok, another one, connman: I have 2 APs, Cisco and Linksys; connman goes berserk with the Cisco one. Unlike any other hardware.20:08
ninnnuNicd-: What did they do? Replace the phone/battery?20:08
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ballock(and at one point it went so twisted it thought my wifi is available wherever I go)20:10
Nicd-ninnnu: they replaced the SIM holder20:12
ninnnuNicd-: huh20:12
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ballock'and another one: has anybody done anything for FingerTerm? Like a fork with better... everything?20:13
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Stskeepswell, it's oss..20:14
Stskeepsand i think thp worked on a silica version20:15
ballocklink?20:19
faenilballock: https://github.com/nemomobile/fingerterm/tree/silica20:19
ballockNicd-: did you need to pay for postage? It might be cheaper for me to fix it with local wisdom.20:19
Nicd-ballock: no, it was free to send as a letter20:20
ballockLetter??! With regular post? No insurance?20:20
Nicd-I made a padded package myself that was just small enough to be considered as a maxi size letter20:20
Nicd-I guess I have too much faith in the finnish post20:21
Stskeepsif i remember correctly ballock is in poland.. they lost my university master's degree 3 times.20:21
Stskeeps+diploma20:22
Stskeeps:P20:22
ballockWell, it's Polish post -> something in between -> Finnish post20:22
ballockI lost a set of harp strings sent from France20:22
Shinryuu:o20:22
ballockand a postcard sent from Poland to Irland went like 2 months20:23
ShinryuuI've only lost some small switches for mouse stuff..20:23
Shinryuulike under 5$ or so20:23
Shinryuuor ehrm, actually €20:23
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Nicd-I have never lost anything in the mail20:24
ShinryuuFinnish post is interesting because when you buy some stuff from Asia/USA etc. with DHL, it's in the main capital of Finland under 2 days... but in Finland it takes 2-3 days to arrive at my house :D20:24
ballockI guess it's not that bad, but... I'm a little afraid to send this with no insurance.20:24
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Shinryuuat=in*20:25
ballockThe carriers don't care about the glass sign on packages.20:25
Shinryuuheh.. yeah + custom stuff20:25
ballockI recently found why they no longer do - I ordered something, came in a tube, half a meter x 5cm diameter, with a glass "careful" sign on it.20:26
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Shinryuualso I've noticed that there is only one ride from capital to other cities in a day... so if your timing is bad = you have to wait for one extra day for it to proceed20:27
ballockIt contained a concrete drill; 1.5kg.20:27
ballockRead: "Careful, don't drop it or you may break the floor".20:28
Shinryuu:P20:28
ShinryuuI once sent a laptop from 100km away to one person.. it cost me 20€20:28
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Shinryuulike.. what the heck20:28
ballockthis one, if anyone's interested20:29
ballockhttp://allegro.pl/show_item.php?item=442555911420:29
Shinryuuhaha.. oh wow20:29
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Morpog_PC__interesting blog entry by w00t, does that mean we need to wait till we get qt 5.4 on our jolla to get those improvements, or are they backported to qt 5.2?20:58
Morpog_PC__http://t.co/vo16CHECdL20:59
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w00tMorpog_PC__: all work we've been doing has been upstreamed (like that), but will of course be available backported to the release in mer20:59
w00tMorpog_PC__: that particular one won't cause any visible change, though, as we had already solved the same problem in a different (but not ideal/non-upstreamable) way previously21:00
Morpog_PC__the actual release in mer or the upcoming one (aka 5.4)?21:00
w00tin mer21:00
Morpog_PC__ah ok21:00
Morpog_PC__still great to see it was upstreamed21:00
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w00t:)21:08
skvarkhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=9384621:10
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h4PPYC4Tdoes anyone know a nice terminal client for sailfish? the onboard terminal client of sailfish is good in general, but not very suitable for chatting via irssi - i'm looking for one which uses the "stock"-virtual-keyboard because of the "word-completition".23:59
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