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coderusMitakuuluu v0.8.8-5 bugfix released. Settings now really really really fixed, muting fixed to :D https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/mitakuuluu06:52
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intecoderus: great thanks!07:05
inteso no more cpu load with this version?07:05
coderusinte: cpu still same07:05
coderusit unresolvable :)07:05
coderusnobody knows why it happening07:06
inteoh07:06
inteok07:06
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inteso i might write a watchdog script which checks mtkl-cpu-load every 60 seconds, and if it is 100% just kills mk and restarts it?07:08
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inteno nice fix but maybe something that can at least save some battery:)07:10
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TMavicacoderus: here?07:20
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Morpog_PCinte, the cpu bug is very rare since a few versions07:20
TMavicaMuted Contact in pulley menu show nothing after I muted a group07:21
TMavicaswipe down then open again, the muted icon of group all gone07:22
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coderusTMavica: fuckin muting ><07:33
TMavicaLOL..07:41
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TMavicacoderus: normally this is very important, i got disturb continuously by group chat07:44
TMavicalol07:44
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coderusi see07:52
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TMavica_JollaStskeeps: i use this now08:01
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topi`_how do I play back my MP3 collection on my Jolla phone?08:55
topi`_it seems there is no "Music" app08:55
TMavica_Jollastore08:55
topi`_is my best bet to move MP3's over the USB connection?08:55
TemeVtopi`_: with media app08:56
topi`_ok, i'll try that08:56
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topi`_"mediasoitin"?08:56
TemeVsounds right08:56
topi`_:)08:56
chem|sttopi`_: jolla apps?08:56
topi`_that was a fast install08:56
topi`_do you guys get 4G working?08:57
chem|sttopi`_: yes08:57
TemeVyes08:57
topi`_it says "3G" for me :/08:57
chem|sttopi`_: that is your provider/contract08:57
topi`_maybe it's just bad reception here..08:57
topi`_true, need to check my contract08:58
TemeVdo you have "prefer 4G in settings"?08:58
topi`_actually this is employer's phone08:58
TemeVI think that is the default setting though08:58
topi`_right08:58
topi`_I'll move over some MP3 data, let's see how well it plays08:58
chem|sttopi`_: your employer bought it for you or you are setting it up for your boss?08:59
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chem|sttopi`_: the media app is pretty crap atm, it plays most stuff but playlist editing is a pain, so is making a play queue, taped to short on an item and it plays it and the folder you are in and the 40 things you already added are gone :(09:01
topi`_can Jolla uncompress a .zip file? if I drop in a zipped archive of mp3s...09:01
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chem|styes09:01
topi`_chem|st: fair enough, but I'm not a heavy playlist user anyways... I just put Random play on and go on doing my stuff09:02
chem|sttopi`_: so you use "play all random"?09:02
chem|ston n9 it was already bad but you could have it tag favourites and play them09:03
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r0kk3rzif you've got a lot of songs, make sure you wait 10s or so for the song menu to load09:04
chem|sttopi`_: as you are starting off fresh, have you read through the online guide? there are some pretty neat things you can learn from that09:04
r0kk3rzotherwise shuffle all misses things09:04
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chem|str0kk3rz: oh... did not notice that yet...09:05
r0kk3rzive only got about 1500 songs on my jolla. and its noticable for me09:05
r0kk3rznot that i use the jolla player anymore09:06
stephghow are your new features coming r0kk3rz?09:06
r0kk3rzsorting out some new library menus at the moment09:06
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topi`_I connected my Jolla to my computer and chose "PC connection" from jolla's screen, but nothing appears on Linux side09:29
topi`_I see it advertises it as usb-storage disk, but there are no partitions to mount! why?09:30
chem|sttopi`_: MTP has no partitions to mount09:31
chem|sttopi`_: mtp stack installed on your linux?09:32
topi`_probably not09:32
topi`_lemme chekc09:32
topi`_libmtp-common?09:32
chem|stmtp-tools09:33
topi`_ok, apt'getting09:33
chem|stand with that libmtp stuff09:33
topi`_and then, what next?09:34
topi`_nothing auto-mounts...09:34
chem|sthas anyone managaed to get bash_completion to work properly?09:34
chem|sttopi`_: unplug, replug09:34
topi`_is there a /home/user partition to mount like in the N9?09:34
chem|stwith a wait09:34
topi`_where the music files would reside?09:34
chem|sttopi`_: no there is no massstorage mode09:34
chem|stmtp only09:35
topi`_ok09:35
chem|stbut as you are on linux09:35
chem|stI pretty much never ever hook it up via usb09:35
topi`_how does mtp work? Does it "know" that for music files, they go to this path, and so on?09:35
topi`_I tried uploading the .zips via Windows 7 bluetooth connection, but it failed09:36
chem|sttopi`_: some devices can do that, never tried with jolla09:36
topi`_(probably because of windows)09:36
chem|stI connect my jolla to my local wlan and mount it on my linux09:36
chem|stor rsync09:36
r0kk3rzyeah scp or rsync is probably the go for linux09:37
chem|stmtp is drunk!09:38
r0kk3rzwhich sucks, you'd think a linux phone would work with linux09:38
chem|str0kk3rz: by using microsoft technology?09:38
r0kk3rzyeah...09:38
topi`_btw, I'm running Ubuntu on my Samsung Chromebook, that might be one cause why libmtp doesn't mount stuff09:39
topi`_because I'd need to get that libmtp running on the ChromeOS side.. *sigh*09:39
r0kk3rztopi`_: the jolla has Tracker on it, which scans the phone for items09:39
r0kk3rzsticks the results into a sparql database, which the media app sees09:40
chem|sttopi`_: ubuntu should be just fine09:40
r0kk3rzso it doesnt matter where you put stuff, and it should find it09:40
coderusUploaded #Mitakuuluu v0.8.8-6 bugfix. Muting contacts should work now.09:40
topi`_r0kk3rz: interesting...09:40
topi`_chem|st: yeah, Ubuntu should, but this is ChromeOS where Ubuntu runs in a chroot09:41
r0kk3rzdoes it for documents, pictures, music, videos etc09:41
topi`_so the story is more complicated, but works for most userspace stuff09:41
chem|stoh...09:41
topi`_I do like the simplicity of ChromeOS, it's just fine for browsing09:41
chem|sttopi`_: mtp does not work on my usb3 hub in debian... just as example09:41
r0kk3rzit makes writing apps really really easy, because you dont have to worry so much about finding files09:42
chem|sttopi`_: you have a double-fail samsung+google... I have a samsung NC10, with debian...09:42
topi`_hehe :)09:43
chem|sttopi`_: can you hook it up to your wlan and transfer files via scp/rsync?09:43
topi`_IMO chromeos+chrubuntu works just fine, as long as you're aware of the problems waiting there in lower levels09:43
topi`_chem|st: yes, that would be a good approach.09:43
topi`_is there a ssh server by default on Jolla?09:43
chem|sttopi`_: or sftp if you are a mouse guy09:43
topi`_no mice here.09:44
chem|stawesome(TM)09:44
chem|sttouchpads made me use windowmanagers that do not need mice^^09:45
r0kk3rztopi`_: if you've enabled dev mode, then yeah ssh should work09:45
chem|stat least, it is easier than getting mtp to work^^09:45
chem|sttopi`_: some folder structure notes for you09:46
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chem|staliendalvik fusemounts /data/media/ to $HOME/android_storage/ so don't try to write anything to /data/media/ while aliendalvik is running09:47
chem|stsdcards will show up as /media/sdcard/$UUID/ and will sometimes show up when mtp works properly09:47
chem|stmusic folder is $HOME/Music09:49
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r0kk3rzand when you get fed up with the Media app, get mine off openrepos instead :P09:49
chem|stif you want to have android stuff moved to sdcard and still be able to use it as normal storage you may follow my instructions on tjc09:50
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chem|str0kk3rz: is the sailfish one open yet?09:50
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r0kk3rzthe jolla one isnt to my knowledge09:53
chem|str0kk3rz: what is yours called?09:53
r0kk3rzmines open, and not too far off feature parity with jollas one09:53
r0kk3rzSirenSong09:53
r0kk3rzreally needs more library menus09:54
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r0kk3rzbut complicated GUIs take time09:55
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r0kk3rzbut if you spend all your time in the all songs list, and like all random, it works well10:00
chem|str0kk3rz: your description has a typo "Mutimedia10:03
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r0kk3rzfixed, thanks10:04
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faenilah, there you go :)10:04
faeniloops10:04
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Venemo_faenil: heya10:06
faenilo/10:06
Stskeepsm0010:07
TMavica_Jollacoming10:08
TMavica_Jollajust bathed10:08
chem|stTMavica_Jolla: you are too fast10:08
TMavica_Jollawt too fast10:08
Venemo_faenil: you wanted to drag me to #nemomobile but my IRC client crashed10:08
chem|stlol10:09
faenilVenemo_: I dragged you too hard, sorry :D10:09
Stskeepswrong window :p10:09
TMavica_Jollayes..10:09
Shinryuu;)10:10
Venemo_faenil: no problem10:10
Stskeepsso hot in hong kong..10:10
Venemo_so cold in here10:10
faenilhot in Pisa as well :D10:10
kimmolijust fine in Finland :)10:10
Venemo_:P10:10
faeniljust fine == -15° ? :D10:11
kimmoli(who needs meecast?)10:11
kimmolifaenil: waiting for weathers like -5 actually10:11
faenil:) when I came to FI last Nov-Dec, it was like -5, and I was told it was the hottest Dec of the last 126years or something10:12
kimmoliyesterday i heard conversation where someone said that it should be prohibited people living this north as it consumes too much energy during wintertime10:13
faenilmakes sense :p10:14
kimmolibut look those countries where avg temp > 25 , what they are doing? just fighting and killing others10:14
faenillol10:14
kimmolithis summer in finland was too hot, and people went crazy10:14
TMavica_Jollalol10:14
Morpog_PCerm, in arabic emirates they put air conditioners in the outside to ccol tourists and they cool the pools...........10:15
Stskeepssounds nice10:15
Venemo_kimmoli: and they are also wasting their energy to cool their rooms down to 15°C with air conditioners10:15
kimmoliand (at least i) didn't got anything done... just siesta10:15
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Morpog_PCand that at 50°C outside10:15
kimmoliwe are cooling indoor temp down if outdoor is > 2310:16
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r0kk3rzFi was nice in spring10:19
r0kk3rzcouple of cold snaps but 30C+ days, sunny10:19
Venemo_kimmoli: 23? really?10:22
kimmoliat least my brother is doing so10:22
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topi`_odd. if I start the browser now, it crashes right before it opens its window10:26
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topi`_(or brings it to foreground)10:26
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topi`_let's see if a reboot cures.10:26
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r0kk3rztopi`_: known bug10:26
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Sail0rhttp://www.jollausers.com/2014/09/you-can-now-evade-nsa-thanks-to-a-jolla-sailor/11:48
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VenemoSail0r: yeah, thanks to special :)12:11
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inteSail0r so this is something similar to tox?12:16
inteand is it available already12:16
intelike through OR or direct download?12:16
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Nicd-hehe, my mom has decided she wants a jolla12:47
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AJAX555Nicd-: a cool mother you have then13:07
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Nicd-well, she's a former programmer and she wants to support the company13:08
AJAX555even cooler13:08
Nicd-but she's never had a touchscreen phone before so we'll see, I'll demo mine to her13:08
AJAX555heh, I've had one touchscreen phone before jolla13:09
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intei had two13:12
inten900 and n913:12
AJAX555I had nokia 523013:13
intewell, three13:13
inteSE P1i13:13
inte2,5:)13:13
kimmoliNicd-: aa phone, i through the real thing13:14
kimmoli*thought13:14
intei really liked the concept of the P1i13:14
inteclickwheel, touchscreen and keyboard13:15
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Nicd-kimmoli: phone, yes13:15
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Andy80hi13:34
Andy80I've just reinstalled Mitakuuluu and I'm trying to register my number, but I can't receive the code via SMS not via phone call13:35
Andy80is there any known issue?13:35
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Andy80I've tried again and now I get an error that says I did too many code requests :(13:39
Andy80coderus, do you know if there are any problem with WhatsApp registration servers?13:39
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VenemoNicd-: good luck to your mother :)14:11
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coderusAndy80: why voice? sms not working?14:48
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coderusyou can check features status on status page in settings :)14:53
Nicd-but can he get to the settings page if he hasn't activated the account?14:53
coderusnope14:54
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* Andy80 back15:00
Andy80both sms and voice were not working15:00
Andy80also... I had to wait some minutes before being able to register again because it said I had tried too many times15:00
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Andy80I tried with Android app then.... and sms was not working too, it gave me an error immediatly sayin "impossible to send SMS, try voice?"15:01
Andy80I said: yes15:01
Andy80and it said I tried too many times and I have to wait other 22 hours before trying again15:01
merlin1991javispedro: if I want to add gen1 protocol support to salmeta, what do you consider the right approach, plain forking or trying to add a sort of multi protcol system like in sowatch?15:02
javispedromerlin1991: how does gen1 proto work in your mw?15:05
javispedroer15:05
javispedrogen215:05
javispedromerlin1991: can you build 1.5.3  or latest git firmware for it?15:05
merlin1991last time I tried that didn't work15:06
merlin1991it's the wds112 model (very first digital) without ble ...15:06
javispedroI could put in non-BLE support15:07
javispedrothe older proto is just useless at this point, on the newer firmwares I can't even assign all buttons15:07
javispedroand it would sometimes fail to render the clock itself =)15:08
merlin1991I know, but I just had no luck whatsoever with newer firmware on my watch ...15:08
merlin1991I could try again though15:08
tbrbit surprised that nobody else tried. there used to be a fairly active community around the gen1 watches15:10
merlin1991hm actually I have no idea how to test gen2 protocol if I flash a newer firmware, javispedro any idea how todo a quick test? I have no android or ios device to try with the official application ...15:15
javispedromerlin1991: no idea atm, but I'll try to add in normalBT support in salmeta15:16
javispedroit was planned either way because it should be trivial15:16
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Andy80coderus, can you please check the service status with your app? I can't open whatsapp anywhere now :\15:19
TemeVAndy80: if it tells you to wait you have to wait15:24
Andy80TemeV, :\15:25
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TemeVYou can try to get sms with this https://coderus.openrepos.net/whitesoft/whatsapp_sms15:27
TemeVbut my bet is, it'll just tell you to wait also15:27
tbrjavispedro: I guess it's the same protocol just with a different transport?15:28
javispedrotbr: yep15:28
tbrbtw: just stumbled into this: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/hangups/0.115:28
tbrcompletely unrelated15:29
javispedroexcept there's some idiot-logic because the old BT transport is byte-oriented, so you may need to reassemble messages15:29
* javispedro sighs at the new Evil Google15:29
javispedroI mean, they're now introducing "standards" for actions in email messages15:29
tbrbut now I want to see if I can build a very simple hangouts to irc gateway15:29
javispedroif that's not embrace and extend I don't know what is.15:29
tbryeah, they have been behaving quite bullyish, even microsoftish recently15:30
javispedroso you can put some "x-gmail-crap: to unsubscribe, push to url xxx" headers in email messages and google will render them as buttons in the UI15:30
tbro.O15:31
tbrthat's news to me15:31
javispedrohttps://developers.google.com/gmail/act15:31
javispedrohttps://developers.google.com/gmail/actions/ (sorry)15:31
tbrtnx15:31
tbrthat looks like prone to abuse though15:34
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TMavicacoderus: I muted a group, muted contact in pulley menu show ok, but it still rings of that group15:44
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TMavicaif i use coverpage mute function, is fine, no any ring15:44
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merlin1991javispedro: I've got a silly question, I have no IAR on this pc atm, but mspdebug can't flash the gen1.d43 file that is in the git tree, can I convert that to something mspdebug will understand?15:56
javispedromerlin1991: is there a .hex file around? it should be able to flash that15:56
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merlin1991nope, they only checked in teh .d43 files :/15:56
javispedrohmpf15:58
javispedroI think you can't convert easily between one and the other15:58
javispedroan alternative is a windoze box with one of the msp430 flashers but I presume you don't have one close15:59
merlin1991there is Watch/ProjectCCS/Gen1/gen1.txt16:00
merlin1991but it is from a few commits back16:00
javispedrowhat about https://github.com/MetaWatchOpenProjects/MetaWatch-Gen2/blob/master/Watch/ProjectCCS/Gen1/gen1.txt ?16:00
javispedroouch16:01
javispedrook.16:01
javispedro:)16:01
javispedrowait16:01
javispedroactually, gen1.d43 is from the same commit?16:01
merlin1991true, I didn't notice that in the other commits only the gen2.d43 was updated16:02
javispedro:(16:03
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merlin1991hm the gen1.txt claims to be 1.5.116:07
merlin1991where did you find 1.5.3?16:07
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merlin1991oh it's some dropbox dl somewhere16:13
merlin1991...16:13
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Sail0rhttps://aws.amazon.com/free/?sc_ichannel=ha&sc_icountry=en&sc_icampaign=ha_en_FreeTier&sc_icontent=ha_en_211&sc_iplace=ha_en_ed&sc_isegment=d&/16:15
merlin1991and ofc it's only gen216:15
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Shinryuue16:39
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coderusMitakuuluu v0.8.8-7 bugfix uploaded. Muting settings now really fixed. Update and search for new bugs.17:00
coderusTMavica: ^17:00
TMavicathx17:01
TMavicau do damn good job17:02
TMavicaLOL17:02
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coderuslol :D17:13
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kimmolilollojen yö17:17
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TMavicalet me use a android device to test deeper17:45
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TMavicacoderus: bugs found17:57
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okucoderus: cannot send pictures straight from gallery to mitakuuluu. the gallery just quits when trying to select sharing to mitakuuluu18:09
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coderustm ic.18:15
coderusoku: working for me18:17
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coderusMitakuuluu v0.8.8-8 with really fixed gallery download option uploaded: https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/mitakuuluu18:19
TMavicaso fast18:21
coderusso stupid bugs, so sure :)18:21
TemeVseems like I'll wait a while before updating :)18:21
TemeVso many updates recently :D18:22
coderusTemeV: you need to wait until update will popup automatically in application :)18:22
coderusor in chek for update option18:22
TemeVno time for updating. Coding is too interesting :)18:23
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TMavicacoderus: confirm fixed18:28
coderus:D18:29
coderussearch for other bugs then :)18:29
TMavicaI will LOL18:31
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TMavicai am try all function of whatsapp18:34
TMavicatrying18:34
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javispedromerlin1991: tbr: obs salmeta packages in http://repo.merproject.org/obs/home:/javispedro:/salmeta/gato_sailfish_latest_armv7hl/, new version should workaround dup notifications issue18:40
javispedromerlin1991: also it has old BT support, but you need to enable it explicitly with:18:41
javispedromerlin1991: dconf write /apps/salmeta/watch0/transport "'bluetooth'"18:41
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tbr\o/19:02
tbrtime to ditch my own builds and add a repo19:03
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okucoderus: still can't share straight from gallery.tyanks for fixing the mute though, it was more important20:04
coderusoku: get log from gallery to know more.20:05
okuhow can iget that?20:07
coderusstart jolla-gallery in terminal20:10
okuok, i'll do it tomorrow20:15
okuthanks alot for the app though :)20:17
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merlin1991javispedro: thanks, I'll give it a try tomorrow22:05
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