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keithzg | Grrrr, still fighting with Tracker to actually index my music on my SD card . . . | 03:18 |
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keithzg | I mean, it sees it just fine, but decides everything is just Unknown Artist, Unknown Album, and defaults to titling the songs after their filenames. | 03:19 |
keithzg | A hard reset seems to work, sometimes (a soft-reset doesn't), but only until the next reboot. | 03:20 |
keithzg | Ah well, maybe I'll try again on my tomorrow. And it's not like it's that hard to write tracker-control --hard-reset, heh. | 03:21 |
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stephg | ningles | 07:27 |
Nicd- | congrats Jolla for india release! | 07:28 |
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SK_work | \o/ well played Jolla in India <3 | 08:50 |
Jope | <3 | 08:50 |
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Nicd- | http://blog.rburchell.com/2014/09/wayland-and-qt-54.html | 09:39 |
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Sailor2969_ | sigh. | 09:40 |
Sailor2969_ | every time i try to play auralux, jolla crashes/reboots aftrr a few minutes... | 09:41 |
Sailor2969_ | do other Android games have issues as well? | 09:42 |
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Sailor2969_ | i wonder if this irc client keeps conn even while device is blank/idle | 09:49 |
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cybette | community meeting in #mer-meeting on freenode now | 10:01 |
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kimmoli | kjokinie1: something is building... maybe | 12:19 |
pp_ | Sailor2969_: have a battery support / cleaned contacts yet? | 12:21 |
kjokinie1 | kimmoli: I can build one right now for you to test.. the wiki seems to need bit preps, as the initrd stuff is changing soon, and the old stuff in hw-ramdisk is not available anymore | 12:21 |
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Nicd- | hmm, my messages app lost its active cover | 13:16 |
Nicd- | it doesn't display messages, it just says "Messages" | 13:16 |
clau | same happened to me, but with the email client | 13:18 |
clau | no idea what caused it, though | 13:18 |
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Sail0r | Jolla in india is about 210Euros | 13:49 |
chem|st | Sail0r: still too expensive | 13:50 |
AL13N | hmm, is it? 210 is like 60% of our price | 13:52 |
chem|st | Jolla2 needs to be like 300eur but with flagship hardware to make a difference, just like oneplus did | 13:52 |
chem|st | from their job offerings you may read that they will start to target EU+India+Russia directly in the future | 13:56 |
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bjorn | The oneplus requires in invite to buy? How do they manage this price level? What about needing to make volumes? | 13:58 |
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bjorn | an invite* | 13:58 |
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inte | isnt there a jolla promotion at snapdeal shortly? | 14:04 |
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Sail0r | I would like that they target the os first and not new markets ... | 14:10 |
Nicd- | they need new markets to have money to improve the OS | 14:10 |
Sail0r | I know but If the new markets are getting annoyed by the os | 14:10 |
Sail0r | there is no mone | 14:10 |
Sail0r | y | 14:10 |
chem|st | bjorn: volume, they had a waitinglist of at least 3 batches before they even shipped a single one, price: it is highvolume hardware nothing extraordinary, you probably get a very good price for it when ordering batches of 10k-20k which is less than 1M€ | 14:10 |
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chem|st | Sail0r: they had to move, or be broke | 14:12 |
Sail0r | yeah, true. | 14:12 |
Sail0r | and the new update is coming and everything gets better :) | 14:12 |
chem|st | price calculations for 30k devices come up with <50€ per device if you use no extraordinary hardware | 14:13 |
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clau | I doubt Jolla is making enough money from sales to support development | 14:16 |
Sail0r | why? | 14:17 |
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clau | running a company is not cheap: you have to pay salaries, taxes, other expenses | 14:17 |
clau | how many phones do you think Jolla sold so far? | 14:17 |
Nicd- | maybe 30k if that | 14:18 |
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clau | any idea how much does a company spend with an employee per month in Finland? | 14:20 |
dTA | afaik about salaryx2 | 14:21 |
bjorn | 40-50k probably. | 14:21 |
bjorn | Ok maybe 80k then. :P | 14:22 |
dTA | it is not exactly that but close with all the mandatory payments, i forget what all they are | 14:22 |
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Sail0r | snapdeal says Orders Processed: More than 5000 | 14:29 |
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Stskeeps | 5k purchases in india? :P | 14:32 |
Nicd- | Sail0r: where? | 14:32 |
Sail0r | http://www.snapdeal.com/product/jolla-sailfish-mobile/1569469991#bcrumbSearch:jolla%20phone right side beneath the prive | 14:32 |
Sail0r | *price | 14:32 |
Nicd- | http://n2.sdlcdn.com/imgs/a/n/m/VIPbox-4cbb2.jpg DO WANT | 14:33 |
kimmoli | that is just the E-Deal whatever | 14:44 |
kimmoli | 5k, not jolla. it was there 1min after that page opened | 14:44 |
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Nicd- | yeah, it's from here: http://www.snapdeal.com/seller/e-buy/be37cf | 14:51 |
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Sail0r | ah ok | 15:14 |
Sail0r | I thought it's for the displayed article | 15:14 |
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javispedro | faenil, did you get to know anything more about the jolla .it event? | 15:41 |
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Sail0r | hm https://together.jolla.com/question/56009/backup-of-devmmcblk0p28/ | 15:44 |
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cybette | https://www.facebook.com/jollaofficial - 100,091 likes <3 | 16:04 |
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Sail0r | the comments towards the india launch are not that happy oO | 16:08 |
Morpog_PC | 100.191 :D | 16:08 |
faenil | javispedro: like? | 16:09 |
javispedro | faenil, dunno, why you weren't invited :) | 16:09 |
javispedro | or whether it's public | 16:09 |
faenil | javispedro: I asked sailors :) it's a press event, not a community event, was the reply | 16:09 |
faenil | adding that it wasn't organized by jolla itself | 16:10 |
faenil | but, well, we'll know more tomorrow :) | 16:10 |
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faenil | cybette: awww <3 | 16:14 |
cybette | faenil: yes, it's more business side, not dev/community related. and not public. organized by our partner. | 16:14 |
cybette | faenil: if community members can be involved, do you think i'll forget you? ;) | 16:14 |
faenil | cybette: I don't know :( :P | 16:15 |
faenil | bb10 involved devs in the italian launch | 16:16 |
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cybette | it's not really a launch.. | 16:16 |
faenil | but yeah, this looks like something particular, so not worth talking about it :) | 16:16 |
faenil | <3 | 16:16 |
cybette | <3 | 16:17 |
Andy80 | I had problems again with mitakuuluu today.... I had disabled the keepalive setting, to save battery... but I found the process to be stuck at 180% CPU.... | 16:19 |
Morpog_PC | hmm, maybe a point for next community meeting | 16:20 |
Morpog_PC | as it seems jolla devs don't look at together | 16:20 |
r0kk3rz | Andy80: 180% cpu, thats fairly extreme | 16:21 |
Andy80 | r0kk3rz, yes :/ | 16:22 |
Andy80 | if you have any suggestion... I'm happy to test | 16:22 |
r0kk3rz | known bug though, and nobody has any idea why it happens | 16:23 |
Morpog_PC | it could be caused by conman | 16:23 |
r0kk3rz | thats my running theory | 16:23 |
r0kk3rz | but who knows | 16:23 |
Morpog_PC | which should be mire stable with update 9 | 16:23 |
Morpog_PC | more | 16:23 |
Andy80 | if I was in Jolla shoes, being "whatsapp" a very requested app, I would dedicate one of my engineer to help coderus to fix the problem... | 16:24 |
Morpog_PC | me too | 16:24 |
r0kk3rz | theres a thread on TJC about it thanks to Morpog_PC | 16:24 |
r0kk3rz | so go and vote it up | 16:24 |
Morpog_PC | though, no Jolla dev answered or commented there | 16:25 |
Andy80 | oh cool. if you can pass me the link I surely vote up for it :) | 16:25 |
Morpog_PC | https://together.jolla.com/question/51549/could-jolla-help-fixing-a-bug-in-1-sailfishos-app/ | 16:25 |
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r0kk3rz | yeah well, its not really jollas problem to fix a bug in a thirdparty app thats on a thirdparty app store | 16:25 |
Morpog_PC | sure, but they could assist | 16:26 |
Andy80 | found https://together.jolla.com/question/51549/could-jolla-help-fixing-a-bug-in-1-sailfishos-app/ | 16:26 |
Sail0r | when the process runs at 180% and higher what does strace say what it is doing? | 16:26 |
Teme | yeah, throw a skilled engineer at it and get many happier users... a pretty good bargain | 16:26 |
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faenil | yeah I was about to ask if anybody had tried gdb attach'ing to it | 16:26 |
Andy80 | it's not coderus fault if the app is on a 3rd party app store.... | 16:26 |
Sail0r | yeah gdb or strace did someone look at it already? | 16:27 |
r0kk3rz | thanks to basils sysmon i can see that it also spawns heaps of threads at the same time | 16:27 |
Morpog_PC | he said he coulod put it on Jolla store but would need to strip out almost every feature of it :D | 16:27 |
Morpog_PC | even the background daemon | 16:27 |
Sail0r | nobody answers the question ^^ | 16:27 |
r0kk3rz | Sail0r: faenil: it happens so infrequently that its hard to catch in the act | 16:27 |
Sail0r | but it runs for a while at high cpu usage | 16:27 |
Sail0r | 18:19:26 Andy80: I had problems again with mitakuuluu today.... I had disabled the keepalive setting, to save battery... but I found the process to be stuck at 180% CPU.... | 16:28 |
r0kk3rz | it happens when im out and about, so i dont have access to anything to debug properly | 16:28 |
Sail0r | thats when you have to attach | 16:28 |
Andy80 | Morpog_PC, isn't for legal reasons? | 16:28 |
faenil | r0kk3rz: well Andy80 had it twice in 2 days | 16:28 |
Morpog_PC | it runs at high cpu load untill you force quit it | 16:28 |
faenil | r0kk3rz: makes sense | 16:28 |
Morpog_PC | Andy80, no because of harbour limitations | 16:28 |
Andy80 | Morpog_PC, seriously O__o ? | 16:28 |
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r0kk3rz | faenil: yeah it can happen once a day, until you start paying heaps of attention to it, then it might not happen for 2-3 days | 16:29 |
Morpog_PC | alot of apps on openrepos are there because of harbour limitations | 16:29 |
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Sail0r | I think as long as no proper gdb or strace output is there nobody knows what's causing the problem | 16:29 |
faenil | r0kk3rz: hehe I know what you mean :D | 16:29 |
Morpog_PC | for me the bug happens once a week | 16:29 |
r0kk3rz | yeah like mine, even though it doesnt do anything that the Jolla player doesnt do | 16:29 |
r0kk3rz | Morpog_PC: I think it happens in periods of zero signal | 16:30 |
Andy80 | I've nearly full signal in the office | 16:31 |
r0kk3rz | so if you generally have good coverage then its fine, here in the UK coverage is terrible in buildings | 16:31 |
Sail0r | Well, I would help but I do not use whatsapp :x | 16:31 |
w00t | someone strace it when it breaks, get me a log, and I'll see if that tells me anything | 16:31 |
Andy80 | r0kk3rz, full 4G coverage (ThreeUK - London / Oxford st) | 16:31 |
r0kk3rz | w00t: can this be done from terminal on the Jolla? | 16:31 |
Sail0r | well times of weak signal is always a problem with jolla | 16:31 |
Sail0r | strace -p "pid of programm" -f | 16:32 |
w00t | r0kk3rz: strace -f -p $(pidof processnamegoeshere) | 16:32 |
r0kk3rz | cool, if i catch it in the act again i'll do just that | 16:32 |
Morpog_PC | it runs two processes | 16:32 |
Morpog_PC | GUI and daemon | 16:32 |
r0kk3rz | i'll write myself a little script so its easy | 16:33 |
Morpog_PC | let's see if I can reproduce the bug artificially | 16:33 |
faenil | I really wonder why no mikatulu user has done that so far :) | 16:33 |
r0kk3rz | Morpog_PC: ive tried a few theories to repoduce it | 16:33 |
r0kk3rz | never managed to | 16:34 |
Sail0r | I wonder why it does not affect every programm which runs in background | 16:34 |
faenil | are you guys sure coderus doesn't already know in which function it gets stuck? | 16:34 |
Morpog_PC | faenil, because I'm still a bloddy linux noob :D | 16:34 |
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Morpog_PC | faenil, coderus told he never had the bug | 16:34 |
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Morpog_PC | and he got hundreds of logs from users | 16:34 |
faenil | Morpog_PC: that's not a problem, but usually people ask, somebody says "hey, you could try this"...this bug has been going on for so long :D | 16:34 |
r0kk3rz | only mitakuuluu logs, not system logs or stack traces | 16:35 |
faenil | Morpog_PC: ah I see...so that's why | 16:35 |
Morpog_PC | well, faenil as you can see I even started a thread on together and nobody suggested doing a strace | 16:35 |
Sail0r | well, I never read that thread :x | 16:35 |
faenil | I see, if I knew the situation was this bad I would have installed it myself to get the trace xD | 16:35 |
Sail0r | because It did not bother me | 16:35 |
faenil | Morpog_PC: sorry I never read the whole thread, I assumed that had been done :/ | 16:36 |
Morpog_PC | I even bumped the thread till users got annoyed by me :D | 16:36 |
Andy80 | faenil, because coderus said (repeating) yesterday not to spam him with logs.... | 16:36 |
Sail0r | well, the real problem comes up again there is no really searchable bug tracker | 16:36 |
Morpog_PC | coderus, would a strace hekp fixing the cpu bug? | 16:36 |
Sail0r | and tjc gets flooded with so many dups and co | 16:37 |
Andy80 | Sail0r, I agree | 16:37 |
faenil | I wish I had time to start reading the code and help with this, guys | 16:37 |
faenil | but your best bet is w00t, before he manages to plan his journey! :D | 16:37 |
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Morpog_PC | is it too late to start the strace if the bug already happened? | 16:38 |
w00t | Morpog_PC: no | 16:38 |
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faenil | lol | 16:38 |
Morpog_PC | great, makes it more easy | 16:38 |
Sail0r | there will be a lot of output | 16:38 |
w00t | yep | 16:38 |
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w00t | just a few seconds worth of log is plenty | 16:38 |
w00t | (pipe it to a file, obviously) | 16:39 |
Morpog_PC | sounds sane | 16:39 |
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Sail0r | maybe strace -p pid -f -o whatsapp.log | 16:39 |
Sail0r | would be better | 16:39 |
Sail0r | ^^ | 16:39 |
Sail0r | because copying from the jolla terminal can be pain | 16:39 |
Sail0r | if you have it not attached to a pc | 16:39 |
Morpog_PC | do i need to install some additional repo to get strace? | 16:40 |
faenil | you can also create a .desktop that runs that command :D | 16:40 |
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w00t | Morpog_PC: ssu ar mer-tools; zypper ref -f mer-tools | 16:40 |
Morpog_PC | Sail0r, well I use put via USB | 16:40 |
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faenil | Morpog_PC: I think so, probably add mer-tools repo | 16:40 |
faenil | crap, w00t's too fast | 16:40 |
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w00t | :( | 16:40 |
Sail0r | well, but maybe you are not at home when the bug occurs | 16:40 |
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Morpog_PC | first need to install zypper :) | 16:41 |
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Sail0r | pkcon install strace | 16:41 |
faenil | w00t: awww, no no! there... | 16:41 |
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w00t | or use pkcon | 16:41 |
w00t | my old zypper habits still haven't died | 16:42 |
Morpog_PC | ah true, forgot about pkcon | 16:42 |
merlin1991 | javispedro: did you see my small mergerequest gitorious for salmeta? | 16:42 |
faenil | cya people, they're closing the doors here o/ | 16:42 |
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javispedro | merlin1991, nope, thanks | 16:45 |
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Sail0r | lol | 16:48 |
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Sail0r | don't burn your phones radio | 16:48 |
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r0kk3rz | put phone in microwave, make sure you dont turn the microwave on though | 16:49 |
r0kk3rz | should be shielded enough for signal dropout | 16:49 |
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Sail0r | Jolla does not have WAVE ;) | 16:50 |
Morpog_PC | lol | 16:50 |
raa700 | we need WAVETOH | 16:50 |
Sail0r | !! | 16:50 |
Merbot` | Sail0r: Error: "!" is not a valid command. | 16:50 |
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Sail0r | silence | 16:51 |
r0kk3rz | waaaaavetoh | 16:51 |
r0kk3rz | all those apple fans would be so jealous | 16:51 |
Sail0r | kimmoli can do this for sure | 16:51 |
r0kk3rz | but seriously, it should be shielded enough | 16:52 |
Morpog_PC | yeah that tinfoil only kills 3g, 2g still works | 16:52 |
Sail0r | that's because you bought the cheap one | 16:52 |
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Sail0r | you must buy the premium tinfoil | 16:53 |
Sail0r | xD | 16:53 |
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Morpog_PC | :D | 16:53 |
r0kk3rz | conspiracy grade tinfoil | 16:53 |
Sail0r | nsa ready tinfoil | 16:53 |
Morpog_PC | bugs seem never to happen when you want them to happen | 16:53 |
merlin1991 | Morpog_PC: i rember trying that, and then putting the whole device into foil and then a metal box and one more but the signal wouldn't drop, wasn't the jolla though | 16:53 |
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Sail0r | try the microwave | 16:54 |
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raa700 | Morpog_PC: wouldn't they be called features then? | 16:54 |
Morpog_PC | 3 minutes to charge it completely? :D | 16:54 |
merlin1991 | raa700: only if they're documented | 16:54 |
Sail0r | 1 min 1500watt | 16:54 |
Sail0r | ;) | 16:54 |
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r0kk3rz | doesnt happen every time i have signal dropouts though | 16:57 |
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r0kk3rz | just to be extra tricky | 16:57 |
Morpog_PC | microwave only blocks wifi signal and 3g, 2g was still connected with 2/3 | 16:57 |
Morpog_PC | kinda impressive | 16:58 |
r0kk3rz | this is the problem with radio signals, never there when you want them | 16:58 |
r0kk3rz | impossible to get rid of when you dont | 16:58 |
Morpog_PC | just like bugs? | 16:58 |
Sail0r | if you turn on the microwave the signal is gone and i am 100% sure :x | 16:59 |
Sail0r | disable 2g | 16:59 |
Morpog_PC | you cannot disable 2g | 17:00 |
r0kk3rz | flightmode | 17:00 |
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Morpog_PC | well, that completely disabled | 17:01 |
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r0kk3rz | is there a command to toggle the flightmode that doesnt have the 5sec wait? | 17:01 |
Sail0r | dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest=org.ofono /ril_0 org.ofono.RadioSettings.SetProperty string:"TechnologyPreference" variant:string:"umts" according to ofono doku this should only enable umts | 17:01 |
Sail0r | https://git.kernel.org/cgit/network/ofono/ofono.git/tree/doc/radio-settings-api.txt | 17:02 |
Sail0r | http://fpaste.org/135819/91771141/ | 17:03 |
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Morpog_PC | maybe I'm not the best target to reproduce the bug when I only get it about once a week | 17:05 |
Sail0r | but I think you can never simulate what happens in the wild | 17:05 |
Sail0r | once a week is better then never ;) | 17:06 |
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Morpog_PC | I wonder what software version ran on those demo devices in india launch event | 17:08 |
Sail0r | why? are there differences? | 17:09 |
Morpog_PC | i dunno, could be they used some newer builds to show off a bit | 17:09 |
Sail0r | like working caldav? ;) | 17:09 |
Morpog_PC | or a real smooth UI | 17:10 |
Sail0r | or carddav | 17:10 |
Sail0r | or angry birds toh! | 17:10 |
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r0kk3rz | whatever improvents are in update 9 i guess | 17:10 |
Morpog_PC | well then it's smoother UI :D | 17:11 |
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r0kk3rz | or even 10 | 17:11 |
Sail0r | what really happend to the angry birds toh? | 17:11 |
Morpog_PC | it wasn't released yet | 17:11 |
Morpog_PC | no comment from Jolla there | 17:11 |
Sail0r | hm | 17:11 |
Sail0r | the other one from the fashion brand? | 17:12 |
r0kk3rz | surely that would get released along with angry birds game for jolla | 17:12 |
Morpog_PC | younited should come in H2 2014 | 17:12 |
r0kk3rz | which also has yet to be released | 17:12 |
Sail0r | hm :-/ | 17:12 |
Morpog_PC | well H2 2014 is till 31.12. ;) | 17:13 |
Sail0r | hehe | 17:13 |
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coderus | Morpog_PC: i have no idea, really :) | 17:28 |
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Morpog_PC | i try to reproduce the bug and send the output to w00t. He will have a look at it. | 17:29 |
BasilSemuonov | Morpog_PC, there will be nothing there, I tried already. i'm working on fix, since i'm able to reprodure bug | 17:29 |
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Morpog_PC | nice! how can you reproduce it? | 17:30 |
Morpog_PC | you could get in contact with w00t too, maybe he can help you | 17:30 |
BasilSemuonov | w00t suggested couple of tools for debugging. using some test equipment from work | 17:30 |
BasilSemuonov | already did ;) | 17:30 |
Morpog_PC | ah nice | 17:30 |
Morpog_PC | so maybe it will be fixed finally | 17:31 |
w00t | (let me know when you're working on it, BasilSemuonov, and maybe i can try help then) | 17:31 |
Morpog_PC | thx BasilSemuonov | 17:31 |
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r0kk3rz | BasilSemuonov: how do you repoduce it? | 17:42 |
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BasilSemuonov | r0kk3rz, basicaly, drop all packets and switch network twice, so 2 reconnect occures, I'm using faraday cell to block cell network and switch to wifi and back. | 17:44 |
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r0kk3rz | nice one | 17:45 |
r0kk3rz | i figured it was something to do with patchy network | 17:46 |
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faenil | ah so it seems there are news re *the* bug :) | 17:57 |
faenil | happy for you :) | 17:57 |
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Sail0r | I don't really understand the mountpoints of jolla | 17:58 |
Sail0r | why is /dev/mmcblk0p28 mounted twice | 17:59 |
Sail0r | as / and as /home | 17:59 |
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tadzik | butterfs wizardry? | 17:59 |
faenil | Sail0r: p28 hosts more than one btrfs subvolume | 17:59 |
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Nicd- | which *the* bug is this? | 17:59 |
Sail0r | ah | 17:59 |
Sail0r | and how can I display the subvolumes? | 18:00 |
faenil | Sail0r: @ and home-@, if I remember correctly | 18:00 |
r0kk3rz | Nicd-: the mitakuuluu eat all your battery bug | 18:00 |
Nicd- | \o/ | 18:00 |
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Sail0r | ah mount option is subvol=@home | 18:00 |
Sail0r | for /home | 18:00 |
faenil | Sail0r: btrfs subvolume list <mountpoint> | 18:02 |
Sail0r | thx | 18:02 |
Sail0r | ah there is factory | 18:03 |
Sail0r | and factory-home | 18:03 |
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faenil | yep | 18:03 |
faenil | those are the factory subvolumes | 18:03 |
faenil | basically what factory reset does is: delete @ and @home, and snapshot factory ones to @ and @home | 18:04 |
faenil | and then some other bits | 18:04 |
faenil | like reflashing the other partitions, iirc | 18:04 |
faenil | it's all in the init script anyway ;) | 18:04 |
faenil | (iirc) | 18:05 |
faenil | dinner, bbl | 18:05 |
Sail0r | so if some one broke their subvolumes | 18:05 |
Sail0r | it only needs the two factory once to recover? | 18:06 |
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Sail0r | https://together.jolla.com/question/56009/backup-of-devmmcblk0p28/#post-id-56734 I hope it's not to offensive | 18:28 |
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BasilSemuonov | Morpog_PC, problem seems to be solved | 18:39 |
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faenil | BasilSemuonov: fixed it? | 18:45 |
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BasilSemuonov | faenil, seems so last tests. coderus will release fix | 18:45 |
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faenil | BasilSemuonov: good to hear ;) mind sharing details? I have never used mikatulu, but I want to know :) | 18:46 |
faenil | (if there's a PR on the repo, that's ok ) | 18:46 |
BasilSemuonov | unexpected loops occured | 18:46 |
faenil | ok | 18:46 |
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faenil | BasilSemuonov: so basically bytesAvailable was > 0 but the socket was closed | 18:52 |
faenil | because the connection had dropped or something | 18:52 |
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BasilSemuonov | yes, current fix is a hotfix, so no battery drain will occur. more precise(right) fix needed here. | 18:53 |
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faenil | yeah | 18:54 |
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r0kk3rz | hackfix is better than nofix | 19:06 |
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Morpog_PC | BasilSemuonov, awesome! I owe you a beer or two if it's working fine :) | 19:32 |
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Morpog_PC | ah hell, I buy you a few beers anyways :D | 19:46 |
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Morpog_PC | aaaand done ,) | 19:47 |
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BasilSemuonov | Morpog_PC, a bit more tests, and will be released | 19:50 |
eyea_UK_ | jolla )0!1@ joy | 19:50 |
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Morpog_PC | nice, I already floow the commit history on github :D | 19:51 |
Morpog_PC | follow | 19:51 |
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kimmoli | ooo | 19:53 |
eyea_UK_ | does any one know when September OTA update will arrive | 19:53 |
Morpog_PC | not this week | 19:54 |
kimmoli | not this week | 19:54 |
Morpog_PC | lol | 19:54 |
kimmoli | that we know for sure | 19:54 |
Morpog_PC | plan is still this month i guess | 19:54 |
eyea_UK_ | whats new in it | 19:54 |
Morpog_PC | so I bet on 30th | 19:54 |
Morpog_PC | eyea_UK_, alot of stuff | 19:54 |
Morpog_PC | biggest change is Qt 5.2 | 19:54 |
eyea_UK_ | like | 19:54 |
eyea_UK_ | ok | 19:55 |
Morpog_PC | you can see it on together | 19:55 |
kimmoli | Official info from todays meeting "Update9 release: We expect to have a couple of more release candidates internally before we are good to release. Atleast this week, we will not be releasing it." | 19:55 |
eyea_UK_ | and native browser update | 19:55 |
Morpog_PC | yes | 19:56 |
Morpog_PC | gecko 32 | 19:56 |
Morpog_PC | eyea_UK_, https://together.jolla.com/question/55909/official-annoucement-uitukka-is-just-around-the-corner-hold-on/ | 19:56 |
Morpog_PC | https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2014-August/004939.html | 19:56 |
eyea_UK_ | basically firefox engine | 19:56 |
Morpog_PC | yes, but also UI changes I think, not sure if it's in update 9 already | 19:57 |
Morpog_PC | the browser is open source, you can check it's code | 19:57 |
Morpog_PC | https://github.com/sailfishos/sailfish-browser | 19:58 |
Morpog_PC | https://github.com/sailfishos/sailfish-browser/commits/update9 | 19:58 |
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eyea_UK_ | thanks | 19:58 |
Morpog_PC | oh it's gecko 31 btw | 19:58 |
Morpog_PC | this is how the browser will look with new UI https://raw.githubusercontent.com/sailfishos/sailfish-browser/master/design/sailfish-browser-6.jpg | 19:59 |
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eyea_UK_ | thanks | 20:07 |
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eyea_UK_ | What mobile irc client does everyone use | 20:08 |
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Morpog_PC | communi | 20:08 |
Morpog_PC | aka "IRC for SailfishOS" | 20:08 |
eyea_UK_ | yep | 20:08 |
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Morpog_PC | there are no others with a GUI | 20:09 |
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Morpog_PC | unless you call terminal a GUI :D | 20:09 |
eyea_UK_ | there is yaircml | 20:09 |
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eyea_UK_ | yairc | 20:09 |
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eyea_UK_ | from F-Droid | 20:10 |
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Morpog_PC | well, thats android | 20:10 |
eyea_UK_ | Indeed | 20:11 |
Morpog_PC | on android i used to use andchat | 20:11 |
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r0kk3rz | wow, browser update looks awesome | 20:15 |
eyea_UK_ | what of maemo or meego | 20:15 |
Tegu | r0kk3rz: links | 20:15 |
Morpog_PC | r0kk3rz, that image is there since a few months :D | 20:15 |
eyea_UK_ | irc clients | 20:16 |
Morpog_PC | i guess it will be uodate 10 or 11 when we get it | 20:16 |
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r0kk3rz | yeah right, still looks good though | 20:16 |
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r0kk3rz | id settle for a bugfix release this time round | 20:16 |
Morpog_PC | eyea_UK_, on harmattan i used "IRC Chatter" | 20:16 |
eyea_UK_ | yep | 20:17 |
Morpog_PC | r0kk3rz, https://github.com/sailfishos/sailfish-browser/commits/update9 | 20:17 |
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eyea_UK_ | any one btc mining | 20:18 |
Morpog_PC | nope | 20:18 |
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eyea_UK_ | what's of extra accounts | 20:19 |
eyea_UK_ | are the coming | 20:20 |
eyea_UK_ | they | 20:20 |
Morpog_PC | IM? | 20:20 |
eyea_UK_ | yep | 20:20 |
Morpog_PC | just needs someone working on it | 20:20 |
Morpog_PC | I guess community can make it happen | 20:20 |
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eyea_UK_ | then n900 and n9 have extra accounts | 20:21 |
eyea_UK_ | the | 20:21 |
Morpog_PC | yeo | 20:21 |
Morpog_PC | yep | 20:21 |
eyea_UK_ | yep | 20:22 |
eyea_UK_ | what of java emu for jolla | 20:23 |
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Tegu | blah, fingerterm hanged again when I opened that link. happens once a while.. | 20:23 |
Morpog_PC | i wonder when we get that silica fingerterm | 20:23 |
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eyea_UK_ | if jolla have a java emu it would be fqb | 20:24 |
eyea_UK_ | fabulous | 20:25 |
eyea_UK_ | we have flash | 20:25 |
eyea_UK_ | just java emu | 20:25 |
eyea_UK_ | to goo | 20:25 |
eyea_UK_ | go | 20:25 |
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eyea_UK_ | does everyone know that sailfish OS runs on wayland | 20:32 |
eyea_UK_ | but wirh a moded compositer | 20:33 |
Tegu | again hanging.. does it happen for anybody else? (fingerterm sometimes freezing when opening urls, that is) | 20:34 |
teve | Tegu: yep | 20:36 |
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coderus | Morpog_PC: the main issue is scrolling/text selection interfere with silica back gesture :) | 20:37 |
coderus | in silica fingerterm i mean | 20:37 |
coderus | eyea_UK_: what java emu you mean and for what purpose? | 20:40 |
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Morpog_PC | ah, sounds terrible then | 20:40 |
coderus | eyea_UK_: and i did ICQ for Jolla too, dont have time for more protocols, as most of them are pretty dead for now, because telepathy-haze is pretty old :) | 20:40 |
eyea_UK_ | like on the N900 | 20:41 |
eyea_UK_ | java emu | 20:41 |
Morpog_PC | for what? | 20:41 |
eyea_UK_ | to run applets | 20:41 |
coderus | OpenJDK? | 20:41 |
coderus | compile and install it | 20:41 |
Morpog_PC | and you really really need that? | 20:42 |
coderus | seems new task for nieldk :D | 20:42 |
Morpog_PC | :D | 20:42 |
eyea_UK_ | open jdk | 20:42 |
eyea_UK_ | from warehouse | 20:42 |
eyea_UK_ | or | 20:42 |
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Morpog_PC | sounds like it | 20:46 |
Morpog_PC | so you have it already done | 20:46 |
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keithzg | Has anyone compiled non-gstreamer applications for audio playback for SailfishOS? I'm still being bugged by the glitch with being unable to play low-frequency audio files (which seriously cuts into the utility of my Jolla as a podcast player for me, since it turns out many of the podcasts I listen to are encoded at 22050Hz mono). | 22:07 |
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