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kimmolicoderus: i have not enabled anything, or have i?06:33
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coderuskimmoli: well, if sailfish failed to boot it means you modified something or something wrong started at boot11:15
kimmolii don't admit11:17
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clauis anyone else having problems with Telegram right now? I'm not able to connect.13:00
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Nicd-my jolla has stopped opening the camera app...14:01
Nicd-it just crashes14:01
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chem|stNicd-: internal storage writable?14:03
Nicd-jolla-camera: unhandled page fault (7) at 0x4256e000, code 0x81714:04
Nicd-then a memory dump14:05
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tbrreboot?14:08
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Nicd-guess I need to14:16
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pdanekGreetings!14:27
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pdanekIs any of you Sailors aiming to buy the new BlackBerry Passport?14:27
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Morpog_PCno, I stay with my Jolla :D14:39
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Morpog_PCthough I like the idea of the passport14:39
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chem|stpdanek: does sailfish run on it?14:40
pdanekchem|st: unfortunately no, it's proprietary14:41
pdanekBut UI and gesture wise, it's like Sailfish on steroids.14:42
pdanekWith the new BB 10.314:42
Morpog_PCerm, wasn't Sailfish back then like BB10 on steriods?14:42
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chem|stMorpog_PC: perspective changes... a system with seemingly stable version around the corner but prooven to be beta on every release without major changes but to use more battery and crash less... isn't much of steroids16:36
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pdanekMorpog_PC: chem|st: Through all my love to Sailfish, I do think BB10 is currently the best mobile OS out there.17:21
pdanekSailfish failed me hard as daily driver on my travels, like when I needed it most, it was unstable. :(17:22
pdanekStill I'm happy for Sailfish and I think it will be great OS in 2 years, not now.17:22
pdanekBut still, even though BB10 is better in most aspects, I wish I could buy BlackBerry Passport with Sailfish OS on it :)17:26
ahjo-ultrabookpdanek: what problems did you have?17:27
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pdanekIs Sailfish already being sold in Mainland China?18:52
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pdanekI saw just the release for Hong Kong.18:52
Nicd-pdanek: I don't think so18:52
pdanekNicd: strange, do you know why?18:53
pdanekSince China was like the bigges thing for Jolla to do, talked about from the very beginning.18:53
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Nicd-contract stuff?18:55
pdanek Nicd: http://reviewjolla.blogspot.com/2014/09/jolla-is-available-in-china-mainland.html What I found. :O18:56
Nicd-ok, then I was wrong18:56
pdanekIt's even available in India now.18:59
pdanekAnd soon Nambia.18:59
pdanekNamibia*18:59
Nicd-really happy for their progress :)18:59
pdanekComment from Anonymous regarding release in China:19:01
pdanekI just don't know how this is going to sell.  2909 Yuan is a brutally  expensive price for the Chinese market for such a low end piece of  hardware.  For reference, the flagship Meizu MX4, with a 5.4" screen of  4x the resolution, fast chipset, 20MP Sony sensor & lens, 2GB of RAM  & 3100mAH battery, and much higher quality packaging, the 16GB  version goes for only 1700 Yuan.  I guess a few Linux enthusiasts and  hipsters might pick19:01
pdanekI kind of agree and Meiu phones are great actually, even the Android version by Meizu.19:02
pdanekIt's all about attracting some HW vendor, all what Jolla needs.19:02
Stskeepsi really didn't see any meizu phones over in shenzhen though19:02
Stskeepsoppo, xiaomi, sure19:03
Stskeepsbut meizu?19:03
pdanekI tried to buy Xiaomi in Hong Kong and it's like everyone was selling just iPhones. :D19:03
pdanekOr Samsung Galaxy phones.19:03
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pdanekStskeeps: Why did you visit Shenzhen? Vacation or during some Jolla business trip to HK office?19:05
Stskeepspdanek: tourism. i love watching gadgets.19:06
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pdanekhttp://reviewjolla.blogspot.com/2014/09/sailfish-os-market-share-life-long-sail.html19:08
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louisdkHave any of you ever spotted a Jolla in the wild? :)20:37
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Nicd-many times20:37
Nicd-on TV too20:37
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tadzikone at work, one at LUG meeting20:41
M4rtinKand and some of my colleagues have them20:41
tadzikthe other was The First One too :)20:41
Shinryuu:O20:41
ShinryuuI wonder why I haven't seen them at all.. mhh maybe I just have a bad luck here20:41
ShinryuuI usually pay attention20:42
tadzikwell, there aren't that many of them20:42
Shinryuuheh.. I only see some android and/or ios phones20:42
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ShinryuuI believe that the next update is going to arrive anytime soon?20:43
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ShinryuuI'm used to rolling-release distributions so it feels weird to wait for a batch update :P20:44
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tbrShinryuu: likely next week, yes20:44
Shinryuunice20:44
* tbr hopes BASH and NSS don't delay it further20:45
Shinryuuoh.. that one20:45
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louisdkSorry for being off-topic/blasphemous, but I have had a look at Blackberry since they launched BB10 and the new Passport really looks nice :)21:10
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pdanek1louisdk: for some, it's the last good QWERTY phone available, although it uses partially virtual keyboard21:40
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louisdkpdanek1, yearh. Also when I look at BB10 I see an OS based upon some good ideas from MeeGo although it's a really locked down platform and hardware.21:46
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pdanek1louisdk: CHA!, you're everywhere22:00
louisdkpdanek1, Everywhere, any time ;)22:01
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