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Nickleuwhat format does jolla support as ringtone?  i can't set it with a m4a file, which was generated by garageband..02:16
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Nickleuwell mp3 should always work i guess02:26
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birdzhangno update :(02:50
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coderususer on TMO forum reported about 1.1.0.26 available after doing manual repositories upgrade. Jolla repositories bug makes update available before release? :)04:35
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AL13Ncoderus: maybe he was one of those guys who had tested out that new connections stack a while back06:18
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Nicd-Younited live in app store!09:16
Nicd-installing now...09:16
Nicd-what the... it claims to find 21443 photos on my device (25.1 GB)09:19
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till-ls09:20
mekluseems legit09:20
meklumaybe there's a symlink loop somewhere?09:20
Nicd-maybe09:21
Nicd-the android pics gallery only shows around 500 images09:21
Nicd-even that has duplicates09:21
ggabriel"Sorry, cannot connect to store right now. Please try again later." :)09:22
ggabriel(not that i'll install it anyway)09:22
Nicd-amount of free space seems to be 5 GB09:22
Nicd-well, I'm happy as long as I can at least manually upload my photos09:23
Nicd-but I will try to upload my 21k images just for fun ;)09:23
Nicd-to see what happens09:23
ggabrieli'm hoping you're on a wlan09:24
Nicd-nope09:24
ggabrieli'm hoping that you have an unlimited data plan then :)09:24
Nicd-yep09:25
Nicd-pretty much all plans in finland are unlimited. some lower the speed after a predefined amount but not my contract09:25
Nicd-at least it happily started uploading09:26
mekluI only have a 3G data plan :(09:26
mdxth_I'm also uploading09:27
mekluat least it's unlimited09:27
joonahoi_me too, but 3g is well fast enough09:27
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Nicd-3G is fast enough for me as well09:32
Nicd-though uploading all my photos is probably going to take a while :P09:32
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TemeVI think my 3G has faster upload than my wifi at home09:33
TemeV...for now. 100/50 is waiting at the new apartment09:33
Nicd-might be the case for me too... glorious 100/3 at home :D09:33
Nightmare__when they announced it, i was expecting something integrated into sailfish to backup whole device settings, contacts etc.09:33
pp_350/30 :P09:39
pp_or probably more like 15-20 uplink, had to give up my rock-solid 85/45 vdsl2 :(09:40
Nicd-they are digging fiber into the ground next to our house though, so I'm hopeful09:40
Nicd-upload stopped at 26 photos but resumed after I rebooted the app09:40
oh8gnzI had 3G for about 3-4 months09:41
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oh8gnzand after that I sweared that I will never ever have 3G or any mobile connection without proper DSL or fibre09:42
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Nicd-yeah, mobile connection at home is unacceptable09:43
Nicd-mobile is for mobiles :P09:43
Nightmare__+109:43
Nicd-now it's uploading pretty fast, currently at 87 photos09:43
Nicd-it will soon run out of photos that I have taken with the camera, I wonder what it'll start uploading then09:45
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Nicd-hahahaha09:50
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Nicd-it is currently uploading some duplicates and the younited web interface has gone insane09:51
Nicd-the images are jumping all over the place09:51
Nicd-it's using all of my cpu09:52
Nicd-on my laptop, viewing the web UI09:52
mekluhaha09:53
mekluwapps tend to have that a lot09:53
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Nicd-actually there were no duplicates, it's just that the web UI had gone insane09:54
Nicd-I wish I could've taken video of it09:54
Nicd-apparently it doesn't like the fact that I'm uploading while looking at the grid view so it's sorting and resorting and resorting so everything breaks down09:55
mekluso, in essence, web programmers can't do concurrency?09:59
* meklu stops being an asshat for a while09:59
chem|stupdate9 skipped?10:05
SK_workupdate 9 late ?10:06
ggabrielchem|st: that's m$ (http://imgur.com/gallery/p7eQQK310:06
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stephguplate 9 date ?10:06
chem|stI am back from symposia and actually expected the "early September" updated to be late sept but now it is early october10:06
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SK_workchem|st: Qt 5.2 gives Jolla engineers headaches ?10:07
Sail0rhttps://git.merproject.org/groups/mer-core10:07
chem|stggabriel: lol10:07
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Sail0rthey are still merging bash ^^10:07
chem|stSK_work: that is also expected^^10:08
chem|stSail0r: ouch but they will stay coming...10:08
chem|stso a security release will be needed in 1-2 weeks anyway10:09
Nicd-hmm... there is an area in the younited web UI where your mouse cursor disappears10:09
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chem|stNicd-: linux?10:10
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Nicd-chem|st: yep10:10
chem|stNicd-: what WM?10:10
Nicd-gnome10:10
chem|stwelcome to the club, I had some web and ssh glitches where my pointer disappears10:10
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chem|stnot always, just sometimes and it appears to be some website behind the terminal window just like you sometimes see video playback within terminal characters10:11
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Nicd-the uploading has reached the end10:12
Nicd-... and it started reuploading the first pics10:12
Nicd-so no automatic uploading for me :P10:13
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Nicd-now it thinks I have 19391 photos10:15
Nicd-so all my photos 40 times over10:15
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tmynttinseems to work just fine on my device10:18
tmynttin(younited)10:18
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joonahoi_Nicd-: some symlink mess?)10:20
Nicd-tmynttin: how many photos does it list in the automatic updates screen?10:20
Nicd-joonahoi_: dunno, but I haven't added any symlinks10:20
joonahoi_Nicd-: it lists and uploads everything correctly for me10:20
tmynttinNicd-: 181, which is legit10:21
Nicd-oh, I have! screw me10:21
joonahoi_*drumroll*10:21
Nicd-I added one to fix moving my pics to my laptop with rsync10:21
Nicd-don't need that anymore with younited10:21
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Nicd-well, I'm stupid :)10:23
Nicd-now it lists everything fine10:23
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tmynttindownloading a photo from younited to phone doesn't seem to work properly, though10:27
tmynttinor maybe it just goes to some android folder which isn't visible in gallery10:28
Nicd-it's the same when you download a file with an android browser10:29
Nicd-it just says download starting but you never see the file anywhere10:29
Sail0rhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/By7pXJxCAAAzuZG.jpg:large10:31
tmynttinso the download doesn't happen or it just goes to unknown location?10:31
Nicd-well it doesn't sync any docs either10:31
Nicd-tmynttin: dunno10:31
tmynttinok :)10:31
Nicd-maybe in a future update10:31
tmynttinhope so10:32
Nicd-at least this works for uploading and sharing my pics, that's all I care about10:32
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tmynttinme too10:32
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Nicd-there are some dishonest claims in the app description though10:33
tmynttinso, i'm less disappointed than yesterday :)10:33
Nicd-"- Backup all content of your device"10:33
Nicd-"- Share any file format"10:33
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Nicd-all the comments are complaints about it being android :D10:34
Nicd-so many hurt feelings10:34
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Sailor11736Downloas seem to go into android storage /download folder :(10:37
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pdanekMy speakers on Jolla stopped working. :/10:50
pdanekAfter some light drop on the ground.10:50
tmynttinNicd-: yeah, they should have smoothen out the news a bit, maybe ;)10:51
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chem|stjust now, I realized what you guys are on about... Jolla is gone -1, I don't buy a sailfish phone to have android all over the place! I'd buy a oneplusone if.11:32
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Nicd-I don't really care about it. as long as it works for what I want to do11:40
inte`hello, just wondering11:40
Nicd-if the option is no client at all, I'll gladly take the android client11:40
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inte`what happend to http://www.thejollablog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Jolla_Angry_Birds_2.jpg ??11:40
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ggabrielwell, it's simple... the more you buy android, the more developers will want to make android applications11:41
ggabrielsailfish provides a nice balance11:41
inte`ggabriel: talking to me? Wonder about a native Angry birds for Jolla version11:43
inte`will Rovio put any efforts in SailfishOS eventually?11:43
pp_they're axing a bunch of people already, probably not11:44
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inte`oh how sad11:45
KabouikHi! Can someone confirm there is still no call recording application on Sailfish?11:45
inte`would have loved this TOH :)11:45
inte`Kabouik: there is an app called "recorder"11:45
KabouikYep but it only acts as a mic, no call recording11:46
inte`it will probably also record your call while its switched on11:46
ggabrielinte`: no, making a general comment11:46
inte`Kabouik: so it stopps when receiving calls?11:46
inte`ggabriel: ah11:46
KabouikI don't know, I think it will only record my voice inte`11:46
inte`check it out its free anyways:)11:47
KabouikI'm pretty sure it's how it works, I even think someone already asked the question to the dev :(11:47
ggabrielit's kind of illegal in some countries to record calls, so it's a difficult subject11:48
KabouikReally, illegal? Illegal to share  the records I'd say11:48
ggabrielmy understanding anyway11:49
Nicd-my understanding is that there is yet no way to record a call11:49
mekluit's completely legal in Finland :)11:49
KabouikI'm not a lawyer either, I may be wrong! But I miss these apps from the N900 and N9, it was very convenient11:49
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inte`Kabouik: I checked it out myself11:51
inte`it keeps recordign while doing calls11:51
inte`however, the sound is a bit low11:51
KabouikBut does it record both voices?11:52
inte`you will probably have to do some postprocessing (gain) afterwards11:52
inte`I heard both voices, yeah11:52
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KabouikBoth at the same level, or yours louder?11:52
inte`its probably even better if youd use the freespeech functions11:52
inte`mine a bit louder11:52
inte`i dont talk to my mailbox too much, though :-)11:53
inte`but Id say its useable11:53
Kabouik:]11:53
KabouikThanks for the test!11:53
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KabouikWhich codec did you use inte`? I hear nothing with Flac11:56
inte`can i choose a codec? :-)11:57
inte`wait i have to look11:57
KabouikYes11:57
Sail0ryeah, a shitstorm in jolla store ^^11:57
svuorelamy phone has more or less started to randomly reboot - especially in the middle of phone calls, when visiting pages in the browser or checking my email.11:57
svuorelaSail0r: what's happening ?11:57
Sail0rlook at the younited app11:57
inte`Kabouik: PCM11:57
Sail0rand the comments11:58
Sail0r^^11:58
inte`svuorela: your memory is full11:58
ggabrielno love for android applications? :)11:58
KabouikOh I finally hear it inte`, it's extremely low11:58
svuorelainte`: how do I reduce the memory consumption - especially when the only app open is for exampl e the browser ?11:59
KabouikPost-processing won't be enough, the other voice is way too low :(11:59
Sail0rdoes not look like there is love for android apps ^^11:59
locusfhttp://www.merproject.org/logs/%23sailfishos-porters/%23sailfishos-porters.2014-08-08.log.html#t2014-08-08T15:28:48 <- heres the voicecall recording pulseaudio pull request11:59
locusfhttps://github.com/mer-hybris/pulseaudio-modules-droid/releases/tag/5.0.19 <- will be in this version of the pulseaudio modules if its in update911:59
Sail0rwell it's amusing that the QT developer app is a android app, too *g*12:00
KabouikAnyway to install that like *now" locusf?12:00
KabouikI need to record a call today, I took my N9 with me just in case there's no hope with the Jolla12:00
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locusfKabouik: no idea12:00
KabouikI wonder whether an Android call recorder would work with a call initiated via the native Sailfish phone app12:02
locusfhttps://build.merproject.org/package/binary/sailfishos:devel:hw:i9305/pulseaudio-modules-droid?arch=armv8el&filename=pulseaudio-modules-droid-5.0.20-10.9.1.jolla.armv7hl.rpm&repository=sailfish_latest_armv7hl <- maybe this file?12:02
KabouikI could try but I have no idea how to initiate the voice-recording afterwards :<12:02
WntDo you know why the next Windows version is 10, not 9? https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/2hwlrk/new_windows_version_will_be_called_windows_10/ckwq83x12:03
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SceltWnt: https://searchcode.com/?q=if%20version%2Cstartswith%20%20windows+9%20%20#814736652530109246912:03
locusfKabouik: see that irc log for instructions12:04
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Kabouikhttp://www.merproject.org/logs/%23sailfishos-porters/%23sailfishos-porters.2014-08-08.log.html#t2014-08-08T15:28:48 here?12:04
locusfKabouik: yes, be careful though, it might not work as those files are for i930512:04
KabouikAh.12:05
KabouikWould it be easy to revert back?12:05
locusfwell you might try pkcon install pulseaudio-modules-droid12:06
inte`Kabouik: if you turn the speaker to max, and you are in a quite environment it might work12:06
KabouikHaha, these are the instructions: jusa_when in voicecall, and droid_card.primary is in profile voicecall: pactl set-card-profile droid_card.primary voicecall-record15:3612:06
Kabouikjusa_then parec --device=source.primary > foo15:3712:06
Kabouikjusa_and afterwards play that with pacat foo12:06
KabouikI don't get any of these wizzardry. :D12:06
inte`havent tried to turn the phone to handsfree though12:07
KabouikI'll be outside inte`12:07
inte`Kabouik: well go for the N9 then12:07
* inte` didnt even know there was a call recording app for the n912:07
KabouikI think it's called Call recorder actually, and on the N900 I seem to remember there is Recaller12:08
Nicd-recaller was nice12:08
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Nicd-taking a look at the younited app comment section: http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/fire_community.gif12:12
Sail0ryep12:15
Sail0rrage of the community ^^12:16
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Nicd-personally I don't feel I can be angry at free stuff12:16
ggabrielis the application any good though? regardless of it being android12:16
ggabrielyou can always get angry, even if they pay you :) think about work in general12:17
Sail0rhehe12:17
Sail0rI understand the people and why there are so angry12:18
Sail0rthey are just disappointed at the moment12:18
Nicd-ggabriel: seems it's good for pretty much uploading your photos and videos to younited12:18
Sail0rso many promises which are not fullfilled at the moment12:18
ggabrielNicd-: ta12:18
Sail0rthat makes people angry12:18
Stskeepslet's list them?12:18
Stskeeps:P12:18
ggabrielSail0r: yeah, expected12:18
ggabrielitem 1. my phone doesn't have 32gb of RAM12:19
Sail0rhehe12:19
Sail0rI go for 6412:19
Sail0rand no core i712:19
ggabrieli'm obviously joking12:19
ggabrielon a more serious note, it must be challenging for a dev company to upskill their staff to c++/qt etc12:20
ggabrielwhen all they know is java and/or subjective c12:20
giucamwhat's subjective c? :D12:20
ggabrielthat thing that ios uses12:21
ggabrieliirc12:21
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giucamthat's objective ;)12:21
Sail0rwell, the main problem is the press releases which promised smth. which never happend12:21
ggabrielgiucam: whatever, close enough ;)12:21
* ggabriel was trying to make a point that using objective for a language name is as silly as using subjective12:21
Stskeepsas a start, press releases should be taken in the context they're happening.. MWC: telco vendors and related companies decide what they'll do in the fall there12:21
Sail0ryeah, but there were press releases which promised smth cool and nice12:22
Sail0rand afterwards silence12:22
Sail0rnothing anymore on these fancy things12:22
Sail0rthat makes people disappointed12:23
ggabrielthat depends how you understand a press release12:23
Sail0rwell, I know that my company makes browsergames which never came out like the people want them :P12:23
ggabrielthe devil is in the detail12:23
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ggabrielnormally verbal agreement != contract != expectation != delivery12:23
ggabrielbut to understand the above, you need some experience12:24
Sail0ryeah, but for small companies these things are getting worse when there is no fullfillment12:24
ggabrielelse you wonder why WHY12:24
Stskeepsthe mobile market is a mess12:24
Stskeeps:P12:24
Sail0rat the moment it's like "a Jolla the company which makes partnerships which never work" to be evil12:25
Stskeepsisn't that microsoft?12:25
Stskeeps:P12:25
Sail0rhehe12:25
clauhey Stskeeps, you could talk to Spotify... they apparently already have a Sailfish client12:25
claujust convince them to release it officially12:26
Sail0rthat would be cool12:26
pp_they already use qt12:26
svuorelascrew spotify. they don't want me as a customer.12:26
Stskeepsclau: well, not even the linux one is strictly speaking official..12:26
tadzikit's on their official website12:26
Stskeepshttps://www.spotify.com/pl/download/previews/12:27
Stskeepsi'm (without trying to underdig our own dev story) a happy spotify for android user12:27
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Stskeepsand that's yes, the biggest problem of the jolla dev story, there's a full platform api in the android part12:28
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w00tStskeeps: plus the usual resourcing problems of not having enough people to work on our own stuff.12:28
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svuorelawith both w00t and Stskeeps around, maybe someone can help me figure out how to troubleshoot why I get a lot of random reboots of my phone :P12:29
Stskeepscontacted care?12:29
pp_well, there's always https://openrepos.net/content/lukedirtwalker/cutespotify  etc.12:29
svuorelaw00t: Are you at devdays next week, btw ?12:29
w00tsvuorela: yep12:29
HarhaanJohtajaQ12:  Finally, can you leak any snippets of information (be it large or small) on what we can expect with the finished Jolla handset ?12:29
w00tsvuorela: as for reboots, I'm kinda clueless there - my only recommendation would be the "try the care folks" one too12:29
HarhaanJohtajaWe are working with Joikusoft to do groundbreaking things in local area network.12:30
HarhaanJohtajahttp://www.jollatides.com/2012/09/21/september-2012-interview-with-jolla-ceo-jussi-hurmola/12:30
StskeepsHarhaanJohtaja: ah, but that was jussi hurmola..12:30
svuorelaw00t: ok. i just fear that they will want me to ship it in, and then_I'd be phone less.12:30
ggabriel...that was 2 years ago12:30
Stskeepsanyhow: joikuspot was kinda unnecessary when the new chipset came in. on ST-E we had to do ad-hoc. on qualcomm, we just flipped a switch and got hotspot mode.12:31
Stskeepsso anything in works there was a casuality of chipset change12:31
Stskeepsplans change.12:32
ggabrielvery few people appreaciate that if anythign similar would have happened to the big boys, they'd probably had lost 80% of their equity12:32
Nicd-similar to what?12:33
ggabrielNicd-: you plan iphone 6 with qualcomm, qualcomm goes bust12:33
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Stskeepsdespite all that, i think it was the best thing that could have happened to us.12:33
Nicd-so? I think a company with a lot more resources can pull of the chipset change easier than Jolla12:34
StskeepsNicd-: naaah.12:34
Stskeeps:P12:34
ggabrielNicd-: i disagree12:34
Stskeepsit's a total mess usually12:34
Stskeepsno dramatic sailfish 1.0 -> 2.0 (qt4->qt5, x11->wayland) on a consumer product12:34
ggabrielif you subcontract a company that subcontract another company who are "experts" in qualcomm and it goes bust, you have to change all contracts and so on12:34
Stskeepsand we were ready to scale on different hw12:34
ggabrielthat will take 5 years12:34
w00tStskeeps: it was12:35
w00t[the best thing to happen to us]12:35
Stskeeps[and a mess]12:35
w00teven if at the time it was a nightmare apocalypse right on the middle of the runway to "launching a product" :)12:35
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inteSail0r wasnt it you to whom i recommended using the genuine charger exclusively to overcome the rebooting issue?13:04
Sail0ryep13:04
Sail0rfor now everything is good13:05
Sail0rno reboots anymore13:05
Sail0r^^13:05
inteso it helped?13:05
intethats great!! :)13:05
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Sail0rbut I must say I barely use my jolla most of the time it lays somewhere and receives sms and emails which I read via pebble ^^13:05
inteshould make it in the support db then:)13:05
intewell you hopefully reply to them from time to time i guess:)13:06
Sail0ryeah ;)13:06
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* inte is using his metawatch to read incoming messages thanks to tbr :)13:06
Sail0r:)13:06
Sail0rI really like the batterylife when using jolla like this13:07
Sail0rI never had an unexpected empty jolla since I have it13:07
Sail0rwhen my jolla was at care I had a samsung s2 which went empty every evening ...13:07
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Sail0rsame usage13:07
Sail0r^^13:07
inteyeah its android13:07
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intedalvik vm on jolla drains the battery pretty fast as well13:08
Sail0rI have the dalvik vm running alltime13:08
Sail0rbecause of tapatalk13:09
Sail0rbut no google services13:09
Sail0ronly amazon services ^^13:09
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TMavicagod bless me13:17
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StskeepsTMavica: hope things don't go overboard..13:21
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TMavicaI am wearing the first one to prepare police's rubber bullets and tear gas!13:31
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Sail0r:x13:41
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louisdkYay. I got my Jolla back for repair with replaced screen. Now I can decide if I should put a 16GB spare micro sd I've laying around in it, and whatever I should take the screen protector plastic off and put one of my Jolla Savvies screen protectors on it.13:59
AL13N_work*whether14:00
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Sail0rhttp://www.jollatides.com/2014/10/02/marc-dillon-stresses-importance-of-user-privacy-expansion-plans-and-future-developments/14:09
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shanxShi! I want to use terminal on my Jolla.. can someone please point me to a resource which elabolrates what should *not* be done in developer mode, if I want to keep warranty ?14:27
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tbrshanxS: don't use devel-su if you don't have to14:33
tbrshanxS: if you do, think before you type.14:34
Shinryuuindeed14:34
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louisdkshanxS, as long as you don't mess stuff up it shouldn't affect your warranty. You can also run "pkcon install fingerterm" to get access to the terminal with dev mode disabled.14:35
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tbrhow do you do that without a terminal? ;)14:35
shanxSI just wanted to show off to my Android friends.. I think Ill take your advice..14:35
shanxSlouisdk: same question as tbr,  where should I type that ?14:36
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fluxaren't there a couple security fixes waiting for the next release, just exploit one of them ;-)14:46
Sail0ryeah first f*ck comment14:47
Sail0r^^14:47
Tegumaybe ShellEx?14:47
Tegunot sure if it works14:47
fluxI think it would work14:48
fluxworth a shot, besides it's a nice piece of software to install regardless :)14:48
louisdkshanxS, active developer mode, open terminal and exclude command and then deactivate developer mode :)14:48
Teguyea, nice for killing those hanging fingerterms (after pressing some menu button) at least:P14:48
fluxso when activating developer mode installs that package regardless, doesn't deactivating remove it?14:49
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louisdkTegu, I personally don't like ShellEx. As I see it you can only exclude one command at a time.14:49
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fluxwell, it certainly beats running a fingerterm and running the command there14:50
fluxand, I need to point this out: the word you're mistyping is execute :-)14:50
shanxSTegu: I find ShellEx is difficult to use..14:51
shanxSlouisdk: trying that!14:51
shanxS"pkcon install fingerterm" ends with " Failed to obtain authentication". Trying to change to su, what is the default password ?14:56
_inte_i have problems logging in to tjc14:57
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_inte_trying to log in takes me to the account register page14:57
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_inte_ok could simply recover it by getting a link through email14:59
_inte_however14:59
_inte_is it normal this happens everytime?14:59
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Nicd-shanxS: use devel-su, password is the one you set in developer mode settings15:00
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shanxSNicd-: got it.. thanks..15:01
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shanxSlouisdk: that works, and does not give me the access to devel-su!15:04
shanxSthank you all :-)15:04
louisdkshanxS, good to hear. You're welcome :)15:05
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Sail0ryeah, prime instant video works on jolla15:15
_inte_Sail0r: made an entry at tjc regarding the rebooting issue: https://together.jolla.com/question/7144/jolla-randomly-shuts-down-10819/?sort=votes&amp;page=6#sort-top15:15
_inte_please vote for it to bring it up in the list as it seems a real solution to solve the problem15:16
Sail0r:)15:16
Sail0rdone15:16
* tbr still claims BS on that15:16
tbrthere are a few corner cases, but once the charger is not connected, it is irrelevant what charged the battery15:17
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_inte_tbr it worked for both of us15:20
_inte_I can even reproduce it15:20
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_inte_I have a powerpack from Pearl that supplys eiterh 1,1 or 2,4 A15:20
tbr_inte_: does the phone reboot while on charger or while not connected?15:21
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_inte_if i use the 2,4 a for some time the phone will fall into the reboot circles afterwards15:21
_inte_the problem vanishes once i revert back to the genuine chager15:21
_inte_it reboots only if charger is *not* connected15:22
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tbrI suspect that is a completely different issue though. Just as I was afraid, there is not just /one/ root cause15:22
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tbryou might be seeing a very different issue that has ultimately a similar or even indistinguishable effect.15:23
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louisdkHmm. I have a 16GB spare micro sd card. Can decide if I should put it in my Jolla or not.15:24
ggabrieldo it!15:24
ggabriel:)15:24
* Stskeeps wouldn't mind SATA on his jolla.15:24
ggabrielwireless sata15:24
tbrenterprise version with SAS or FC please15:25
ggabrieli wonder what'd happen if google and friends parse the logs of this channel15:25
Stskeepsskynet.15:25
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ggabrieland then some news agency start saying things like "jolla 2 with wireless sata with fc in the making!"15:25
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integgabriel: fc=fedora core?15:28
ggabrielfiber channel15:29
Sail0ri want 4k support15:30
Sail0rand wireless hdmi15:30
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ggabriel8k!15:31
ggabrielwith 3d15:31
ggabrielsorry, 4d15:31
ggabrielincidentially, i've just told my colleagus that my personal phone runs sailfish and they thought i was joking15:32
stephg:)15:32
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louisdkHow should I format a micro sd card for use in my Jolla? fat32, ext4 or btrfs?15:38
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SK_worklouisdk: I use fat3215:41
SK_workworks well15:41
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ggabriellouisdk: depends what you want to read it with15:42
ggabrieli use btrfs15:42
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ggabrielformatted on the jolla tho15:42
ggabrielbut then i don't remove hte sd card from the phone15:42
ggabrielscp and sshfs are my friends15:43
Navdoes btrfs auto mount without fiddling with scripts now?15:43
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ggabrielNav: yup15:51
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louisdkggabriel, can you do that in settings or do you need an app?15:53
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SK_worklouisdk: term15:55
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louisdkSK_work, right15:58
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louisdkI got my Jolla back from repair today with a new screen. The new screen has some plastic over it and a little tap to pull it off. I was wondering if a screen protector for my Jolla is better than this plastic which seems quite transparent. I guess the Savvies screen protectors are more solid.16:03
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Stskeepsit's much better. it's not meant to protect screen except during transport16:04
Stskeepsas in, get a different one16:04
Stskeepsso there's no additional scratches etc16:04
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louisdkStskeeps, Seems like a good idea. I'll put one of my Savvies screen protectors on.16:07
louisdkIf I restore a backup I get no warning that my existing data will be erased. I trough I would just a new stuff to the existing stuff on the phone.16:09
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intelouisdk: how much did you pay for the new screen?16:20
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SK_workmorning chriadam o/16:24
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teveinte: 120€16:27
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SK_work(maybe chriadam sleepwalking :D)16:28
inteah same as they offered it for me16:28
intejust doublechecking :)16:28
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inteteve: did they replace the entire frame or just the screen?16:40
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louisdkinte, free, repaired under warranty.16:40
intemy frame might be a bit... bended - which might have led to the screen cracking16:40
intelouisdk: how did you manage getting your screen repaired on warranty?16:41
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louisdkinte, I got yellow marks on the screen which was a hardware issue and therefore repaired under warranty :)16:48
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inteah17:15
intethanks17:15
intemaybe i shoud paint my screen:)17:15
intejut kidding17:15
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louisdkinte, it's sad if you've accidentally  cracked your screen. The Insmat case is a life saver :)17:26
intejep17:27
inteyou mean sth. like that?17:27
intehttp://shop.jolla.com/eu_en/cat-accessories/lastu-wallet-case-curly-birch.html17:27
intelouisdk: actually  im not aware having cracked it17:28
Sailor-2getherhttp://www.rovio.com/en/news/blog/552/towards-a-simplified-organization/17:28
intei had the jolla in my pocket17:28
inteand the the screen was suddenly cracked, right in the middle17:28
Morpog_PC__suddenly!17:29
Sailor-2gethermy galaxy s2 had the same ^^17:29
intei cant remeber any event which could have triggerd it17:29
Sailor-2getherit started getting more blue and blue17:29
Sailor-2getherand then it cracked17:29
Sailor-2gether^^17:29
Sailor-2getherbut i forgot it at -20c in the car17:29
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Sailor-2getherand took it back to the warmth17:30
Morpog_PC__suddenly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWDlzU1e9Bc    :D17:30
* Morpog_PC__ rofls17:30
inteits summer in germany17:31
intemore or less17:31
Morpog_PC__well, less actually17:32
inteand -20deegree is not particular common here anyways:)17:32
Sailor-2getherit was in munich17:32
Sailor-2getherI am from germany ,)17:32
Morpog_PC__we all seem to be :D17:32
intewoups :)17:32
intedepends where you are in germany17:32
Sailor-2getherone moment reconnect17:32
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intehamburg can become pretty cold as well17:32
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intebut in between its rather average17:33
Morpog_PC__well hamburg is like south england :D17:33
Sail0rbavaria munich ;)17:33
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inte:)17:34
intewe had a great summer this year17:34
intecompared to the rest of Germany17:34
Morpog_PC__thats true17:34
intequite unusual17:34
Morpog_PC__but I headed to italy when it was worst ;)17:34
Sail0ryou two are from hamburg?17:34
inteok, nice:)17:35
Morpog_PC__nah, Stuttgart17:35
intei am17:35
intei didnt have to flee from the summer this year:)17:35
Sail0rah, Stuttgart is ok ;) my grandparents lived there17:35
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Morpog_PC__oh rumours say LG works on a smartwatch with webOS17:38
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louisdkinte, that does not sound to good :/17:42
intewell17:42
intemaybe that my frame is a bit bended17:43
inteand i had my daughter sitting on my knee a few times but not that particular day17:44
inteand she is like 12kg or sth.17:44
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intei dont know17:45
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inteif they'd replace my frame AND screen for 120euro ill probaby agree17:45
teveinte: here is pic of display unit: http://www.puuppa.org/~teve/20141002_001.jpg17:46
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inteteve: that is what is beeing replaced?17:48
teveyep17:48
intenot the thin metallframe whith the jolla painting on it?17:48
tevenope, it's still original one.17:50
intetoo bad17:50
intei will have to bargain about the price then?17:51
inte!17:51
Sail0rmaybe they say buy a new one ^17:51
intemaybe i can get some discount if i take a case in addition :)17:51
intehehe17:51
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intei will buy a new one17:51
Sail0r#bendgate on jolla17:51
Sail0rlol17:51
intea new jolla2 :)17:51
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Morpog_PC__i wonder what they are working on https://twitter.com/JollaHQ/status/51688110944840089617:53
Morpog_PC__something new17:53
Stskeepsmining gold in world of warcraft17:54
Sail0rlol17:54
Morpog_PC__ahhhh thats why update 9 is late17:54
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Sail0rhacking bash17:54
Sail0r^^17:54
Morpog_PC__lets zoom in the screens17:55
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Morpog_PC__looks like thefappening pics17:55
HarhaanJohtajaneed csi zoom17:56
Morpog_PC__true17:56
faenildefinitely fappening, I confirm17:56
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Sail0rwtf https://together.jolla.com/question/57565/warning-do-not-uninstall-younited/18:08
Stskeepsiekku: ^18:08
Morpog_PC__someone brave enough to reproduce?18:09
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* tbr fixed a similar situation by nuking the android directories after uninstalling dalvi18:10
tbrk18:10
AL13Ncan't you just take a snapshot before you do it?18:11
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Sail0rif he does not need android support18:12
Sail0rit doesn't matter18:12
Sail0r^^18:12
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Sail0rdo it Morpog18:15
Sail0r^^18:15
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minimecSail0r: Morpog_PC__: I cannot confirm that. I uninstalled after first launch, but I did not create an account. So I did not really use the app.18:22
* Morpog_Jolla echos performance to get upate9 feeling18:23
Morpog_Jollaminimec: can you resond on toj?18:23
minimecMorpog_Jolla: I will...18:23
Morpog_Jollagreat!18:23
minimecMorpog_Jolla: Done! I added a comment to the original question...18:26
Morpog_Jollathx18:27
Sail0rbut he does not believe you ^18:27
Sail0rbecause you didn't use it18:27
minimecSail0r: That's why I mention it... ;)18:28
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iekkuSail0r, Stskeeps: thanks for pointing it out19:19
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Nicd-the comments on the younited app just keep getting better20:01
Nicd-so much butthurt20:01
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Sail0rmeeeh i hate virtualbox since 4.3.1420:24
Sail0rthey broke everything with that release ...20:24
Sail0rreverted back to 4.3.1220:25
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coderusMitakuuluu updated to v0.8.12. Check for updates! Changelog: https://github.com/CODeRUS/mitakuuluu2/releases/tag/v0.8.1221:17
Larswadwas there ever any activity on the phonebook automatic linking problem in the upcoming rls?21:18
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