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Andy80hi09:35
Andy80are there any known issues on OpenRepos or Wharehouse client?09:35
Andy80it's been a few days I can't upgrade any app09:35
Nicd-whorehouse :D09:35
Andy80I have to uninstall/reinstall them or disable/reenable the repository09:36
clautry do this: My profile -> Show updates -> Check for updates09:37
clauyou should get the list with existing updates and tapping on any of them will update the package09:37
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Andy80yeah that's the point...I should... but I only get errors like repo-not-available09:38
clauif there's stuff you can't identify, don't update it09:38
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Andy80or similar stuff09:38
clauI see09:38
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Andy80I try again...09:39
Andy80ok for example now it found an update09:39
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mcfriskhow to install less into jolla? it's getting annoying to debug things without it...09:42
tbrmcfrisk: pkcon er mer-tools, pkcon refresh09:43
tbrthen pkcon install less09:43
Nicd-tbr: is 'pkcon er' the same as 'ssu ar'?09:43
tbrargh09:43
tbrssu er mer-tools09:43
tbrIIRC it only needs enable-repo, not add-repo09:44
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Nicd-I did 'ssu ar mer-tools' back in the day to get less09:45
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mcfriskpkcon refresh shows "Couldn't resolve host 'store-repository.jolla.com'"09:49
mcfriskbut eventually it seemed to work, dunny what's up there..09:50
mcfriskless installed so thanks tbr and Nicd-09:50
tbr:)09:51
claumcfrisk: I'd guess you have a DNS issue09:53
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mcfriskclau: well, I have 4g up and usb networking shouldn't affect that I guess, could also be just long delays, maybe..09:57
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mcfriskIs /usr/lib/qt5/qml/com/jolla/mediaplayer/libmediaplayerplugin.so is closed source on jolla?10:09
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SK_workmcfrisk: yes10:13
SK_workit is related to jolla-mediaplayer10:13
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SK_workbut a wild guess is that it is a QML plugin10:13
SK_workyou can introspect it via qmlplugindump10:13
mcfriskah, I was trying to debug why m3u files end up in "All songs" list, I'll try this10:16
SK_workmcfrisk: fixed in next update10:16
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SK_workactually when you try to play this m3u file, it even crashes10:16
SK_workand I would orient you on debugging how media files are indexed :)10:16
mcfrisknope, it actually plays. Ahaa... so tracker or search bug.10:17
mcfriskbut if it will be fixed then I can wait too, incase there isn't a simple fix in qml or so...10:17
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Sail0rnice one http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=764711:18
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Stskeepssigh11:20
Stskeeps:P11:20
Sail0rthat's one reason why it's better SailfishOS does a reboot for update as Fedora does, too ^^11:21
mekluI don't even have nss installed on my VPS11:22
meklu:>11:22
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inte`are there any rumors about a jolla2 in the makings?11:40
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inte`my screen is broken and i wont get it repaired if i could get a jolla2 in 5 month11:40
ggabrielinte`: normally hw releases are 2yr long11:41
Nicd-inte`: damn, you broke your screen already?11:43
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ggabrielwell, mine is cracked11:45
ggabrieli'm impressed that moisture doesn't get in though11:45
ggabrielafter all the abuse i give it11:45
stephgggabriel: speaking of which, I've tripped the moisture sensor on mine11:46
stephgstill works but the dot is BRIGHT RED11:46
ggabrieli didn't know there was a moisture sensor :)11:47
stephgthe white hexagon next to the camera11:47
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stephgleast I presume that's what it is11:47
stephgused to be white on mine, but after a particularly soggy cycle home is now red :)11:48
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inteNicd- was suddenly broken11:48
stephgggabriel: lick it and find out*11:48
intecant figure out any event or something11:48
* stephg doesn't actually recommend doing that11:48
ggabrielstephg: i can see it now :)11:48
Nicd-inte: you mean physically cracked?11:48
intejust one rather straigt crack from the speaker to the bottom11:49
inteyeah11:49
Nicd-ouch :(11:49
ggabrielinte: have you ever dropped it? :)11:49
intesure11:49
ggabrielthere you go11:49
intebut not recently11:49
ggabrielmy crack appeared hours after a bad drop11:50
intei dropped it maybe 4 month ago11:50
intethe crack appeared 2 weeks ago11:50
intepretty hard to see a connection11:50
ggabrielit doesn't look like the glass has a proper frame to absorb external shock/bending/etc11:50
Nicd-I remember my friend dropped her new galaxy note on the pavement and it cracked horizontally11:50
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Nicd-she was so sad :(11:50
ggabrielNicd-: well, it was a samsung...11:51
ggabrielbest excuse to buy a real phone11:51
Nicd-jolla didn't exist at the time11:51
intebut it cracked instantly?11:51
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ggabrielinte: it cracked in the day in my case, but it was a nasty fall (i have some chipping here and there)11:51
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inteas i said for me it fell on the floor when ibwas about to put it in my trousers11:52
Nicd-inte: yes11:52
intesince then, one of the upper edges is a bit brocken11:53
intei guess it fell dirextly on the edge11:53
intehowever, the crack appeared just recently11:53
intewhen i had it in my trousers11:54
inteof course its possible someonebelse dropped it in between11:54
intelike when it was charging11:54
intelike, my little daughter:)11:54
Nicd-maybe pressure was applied in just the right way that the existing tensions after the drop were released11:54
Nicd-glass tends to work like that sometimes11:55
intebut, actually it was, i was using it, put it in my pocket, and a couple of houres later there was this crack11:55
intenicd- maybe11:55
Nicd-a glass coffee table might just explode on its own without anyone touching it because of the tensions created by the tempering process11:56
intejolla would charge 120€ for a new screen but would they als replace the frame?11:56
intethis is a bit bend since the fall several month ago11:57
inteothetwise, the new screen might crack again11:57
intebecause of the tensions possibly caused by the bended frame i mean11:59
intei cant remember huge changes.in environmental temperature at the day the crack appeared12:00
intedont know...12:00
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mcfriskSK_work: regarding m3u files in "All songs", so jolla-mediaplayer is actually working as specified, and /usr/lib/qt5/qml/com/jolla/mediaplayer/TrackerHelpers.js is correct, but currently tracker is reporting m3u files as nmm:MusicPiece, as per examples in https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Tracker/Documentation/Examples/SPARQL/Music12:21
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Sail0rhttps://twitter.com/CloudTimo/status/51730289241254297713:34
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* tbr loves how jolla does the typically corporate crowd management thing and jumps up "nothing to see here! go away! wait for the announcement!"13:38
tbrnot always unlike13:39
Sail0rhehe13:39
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Jopeunlike *)13:42
Jope*) for predefined values of unlike13:42
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cybetteit'll also help sometimes if people will consider expectation management before jumping the gun13:44
trigpointis it possible to install the command line mplayer on jolla?13:46
mcfriskis the next update going to fix tracker and its rules? I see some wierd things in mp3 file querys, odd mime types...13:46
stephgtrigpoint: someone would need to build it (and it needs to support wayland)13:46
tbrtrigpoint: would probably work with libcaca or libaa13:47
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trigpointI have both quickradio and sailwave installed, but have never worked out what stream it is looking for13:51
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mcfriskumh, do Jolla apps dynamically load .js files, meaning I could just edit /usr/lib/qt5/qml/com/jolla/mediaplayer/TrackerHelpers.js and expect runnin media player to change behavior right away?13:57
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Tofemcfrisk: I think a restart of the app is needed13:59
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mcfriskTofe: ok, so at least reboot is not needed to precompile bins or something14:01
Nicd-hey RST38h, my jolla app has around 10 .js files already ;)14:01
mcfriskRST38h: well, since Jolla apps are closed source, it's actually good that the .js files are not scrambled, and can actually be edited to work around issues with things like tracker14:02
RST38hmcfrisk: Nice security model, too14:03
coderussecurity model?14:05
TofeRST38h: well, as long as you are doing things as root, there's no security anyway14:05
coderussmoking weeds?14:05
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mcfriskRST38h: security model is not an assue. Try doing some hacking on N9 like this...14:07
RST38hTofe: No SMACK? Jolla people got rid of SMACK?14:09
SK_workJolla people never used SMACK iirc14:11
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* mcfrisk fixed a bug in jolla, and enjoyed it!14:29
cb400fcool ;-)14:30
cb400fhadn't noticed any bugs though :-)14:31
mcfrisknow if only there was a simple way to handle patched scripts etc text files on a jolla device. Should I "cd / && git init" :)14:31
mcfriskcb400f: then your usage is light, like any SW product, jolla has plenty of bugs...14:32
SK_workmcfrisk: patchmanager14:32
SK_workmcfrisk: send PR here https://github.com/sailfishos-patches/sailfishos-patches-base14:32
TofeSK_work: are the bugfix patches submitted somehow to Jolla too ?14:33
SK_workno :(14:33
SK_workcommunity way to do some patching14:33
* SK_work still dreams of a way to send them upstream, but it seems to be fully closed14:33
TofeAh, we should find a way, otherwise it's a useless duplication of work14:33
SK_workTofe: +114:34
SK_work^ cybette14:34
SK_worksame topic again14:34
SK_workI know, you are just the messenger14:34
SK_workbut still ...14:34
mcfriskSK_work: heh, jolla-mediaplayer not listed there, but I guess the .js parts could be added since they hopefully can not brick the device14:35
cybetteSK_work: nod14:35
SK_workmcfrisk: it isn't ?14:35
SK_workdamn14:36
SK_workyep, indeed, please include them :)14:36
coderusSK_work: btw, are you working on updating patches for Uitukka already? :D14:41
SK_workwas fiddling with nodejs these days, but patches will be updated :)14:43
SK_workat lesat mine14:43
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coderusyep, i'm talking about lipstick ones, since folder structure is changed :)14:44
mcfriskSK_work: how should the sailfishos-patches-base be used? git clone to jolla device and then apply as root, or? Hmm, why not git clone and develop on the phone too, why not...14:45
SK_workmcfrisk: build them and use patchmanager to handle them14:48
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SK_workcoderus: indeed14:48
mcfriskaww, jolla doesn't have git-email by default14:49
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mcfriskis there some jolla 'build-essentials' package to install usefull and often needed development tools on a jolla? $ git add -p README.md: git: 'add--interactive' is not a git command. See 'git --help'.14:54
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SK_workmcfrisk: well ...15:02
SK_workadd interactive might not be shipped as git on the jolla is not a complete one15:02
SK_workwhy would you develop *on* the jolla when you have some wonderful cross-build env (aka mer sdk)15:02
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mcfriskSK_work: why wouldn't I develop on my Jolla? It has more disk space than my old ssd laptop, two cores and a gig or RAM like my desktop. All I really need is a keyboard and a terminal/display...15:04
SK_workmcfrisk: hum, compiling on arm is quite inefficient ?15:05
Stskeepsyes and no.. anyhow, do it with a chroot for sure15:05
Stskeepsyou don't want to get into the mesa-libEGL mess on device15:05
Stskeeps=> brick15:05
Stskeeps:P15:05
SK_workah ?15:05
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mcfriskSK_work: compiling? I just want to patch some script files. The stuff that I'd want to compile are closed source or can really brick the device anyway...15:06
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mcfriskand I'll say it out loud, Jolla is that last device for me where I don't have sources to the most important apps I use..15:07
mcfriskrmpbuild would nice now to test change to sailfishos-patches-base :)15:08
SK_workthought about building your own core apps instead of using jolla ones ?15:08
mcfriskwell, that would be nice but what's the quality of those apps, mainly email, camera, gallery, calendar and browser...15:10
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ggabrielbrowser is open source15:20
ggabrielthere's some interesting work being done there such as text selection and so on15:20
claucoderus has a few patches for the browser in his openrepos repo, btw.15:24
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RST38hSK_work: No smack? that's a relief15:31
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coderusclau: its not in Jolla Store and nobody care of it, ahahaha :D15:35
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Sail0rhttps://twitter.com/mikko/status/51735847271571046520:28
Sail0rnice xD20:28
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Nightmare__:D20:30
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r0kk3rz_that's gold20:40
r0kk3rz_shitty ms devs breaking the number 920:41
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r0kk3rz_not sure how big a problem that is though20:41
r0kk3rz_surely theres not much left to support 95 and 9820:42
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Nightmare__some software would throw an error when dedecting "Windows 9*" because it's not supported20:44
Shinryuuoh..20:44
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dunphttp://puu.sh/bVEQk.png20:45
r0kk3rz_yeah I suppose20:45
dunp:D20:45
r0kk3rz_but the main maintaned ones would fix that20:45
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stephggood evening.21:31
stephgin the interests of full disclosure, I must tell you, that I have chocolate21:32
* bjorn now wants some but was about to brush his teeth. Arg!21:32
stephgfirst world problems! ;)21:33
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