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CazouHey ! I cannot find a fastboot driver for windows (neither for linux anyway) I was wondering how I am supposed to use fastboot with the Jolla device :/06:42
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Jopeas an end-user, you aren't supposed to be using fastboot06:50
Jopeor I can't really think of anything you could do with it06:51
Jopebut I must admit I haven't been following the blogs / together that closely lately.06:51
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CazouJope: Maybe I am not just an end user :D07:00
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pp_:-)07:02
Jopein that case you would have solved the problem already :-)07:02
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pp_so what is the safest way of booting your own kernel?-)07:04
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Jonnipp_: Cazou: any generic android fastboot driver would work. But by default device is locked. You can unlock bootloader from recovery mode, which enables you to use fastboot to boot your own kernel. (unlocking bootloader is not recomended for normal users).07:07
pp_yup, need to enable a few options for systemtap it seems :-)07:09
pp_(and to get debug syms)07:09
CazouJope: I should already have, i know :(07:13
CazouJonni: it is unlocked and in fastboot mode, but Windows 8.1 won't load any driver. I'll try more on archlinux later, when I get a hand on my computer07:14
JonniCazou: dont know about windows, works in Ubuntu Linux for me.07:15
CazouJonni: "Won't work with Windows 8" (TM)07:16
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Jopewell I didn't say this but download the google fastboot driver and edit the vid + pid in the inf?07:17
Jopethat's how it's done for every other fastboot device in the world at least..07:17
Jonniwell I've seen fastboot working on windows too. But like jope said you might need to edit vid/pid stuff.07:17
Jonniwhich means that you have easier life if you use Linux.07:18
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Pawkyduh.... how do you get past a boot loop?07:40
Nicd-remove the battery for 10 min07:40
Pawkyseriously?07:40
Pawkywhy would that fix the problem?07:40
PawkyI assume its something in fstab..07:40
Nicd-try it and see07:41
Pawkywhat do you mean will happen when doing so?07:41
Nicd-the boot loop might have to do with the rebooting hardware problem07:41
Nicd-afaik some hw watchdogs are reset07:41
Nicd-after a certain amount of time without battery07:41
stephgyep07:42
Pawkynah... in my case its probably because I have moved the Alien Dalvik stuff to my sd card..07:42
Stskeepsrecovery mode07:42
Pawkyok.. how to achieve that? :-)07:42
lainwir3dhi07:43
Stskeepshttps://together.jolla.com/question/22079/howto-all-pc-users-recover-or-reset-a-device-that-is-stuck-in-boot-loop/07:43
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Pawkygives connection refused :-(07:50
Pawkygot the ip though :-)07:51
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Pawkyaha... got ssh... but whats the default password for nemo?07:51
Nicd-it's the one you set in developer mode settings. don't know what it is if you never enabled developer mode07:52
Pawkyi did...07:52
Pawkyi did...07:53
stephgyou did?07:53
Pawkybut that password magically does NOT work now..07:53
Pawkyyes..07:53
SK_workPawky: change it ?07:53
PawkySK_work: like how so?07:54
SK_workPawky: change the ssh password in dev mode ?07:54
PawkySK_work: ok.. how so, when my phone is boot looping? :-)07:54
Nicd-Pawky: you can't telnet in?07:54
SK_workPawky: aww07:54
SK_workPawky: connect with recovery ?07:54
PawkySK_work: I am connecting in recovery, and the only ports open are 2207:55
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Nicd-Pawky: did you try 'telnet 10.42.66.66'?07:55
SK_workPawky: you need telnet07:55
Pawkyyes, but it makes no sence as the telnet port is closed...07:56
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Nicd-telnet did not work? are you using the usb ethernet interface?07:57
Jonniis 22 is responding then most likely you booted into developer mode and not recovery07:57
Jonniis=if07:57
Pawkywell.. so I thought... i do have the 10.42.66.67, but I just noticed the ssh is the port on my computer...07:57
Pawkyok.... ehh... yeah of course thats my computer :-)07:58
stephg:)07:58
PawkyB-).... sneaking away...07:58
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stephgwe've all been there :)07:58
Pawkygot root...07:59
Pawkybut is there a way to get a terminal... i believe I need to fix the fstab07:59
Pawkyahh.. 4)07:59
Pawkywhy do I void warranty for a shell???08:00
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PawkyIt's such a cool phone..08:00
SK_workPawky: you void guarantee if you breaks everything08:00
PawkySK_work: I assume damage was already done when enabling dev mode..08:01
SK_workPawky: what kind of damage ?08:02
Pawkyfigure of speach...08:02
Pawkyspeech08:03
Pawkyhmm.... am I right this is actually not my real /etc/fstab I am viewing righ now?...08:03
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SK_workPawky: you need to chroot into your "root"08:03
SK_workright now you are in the recovery's root08:04
Pawkythought so...08:04
SK_work mkdir /mnt/rootfs &&  mount /dev/mmcblk0p28 /mnt/rootfs && chroot /mnt/rootfs08:04
SK_work:)08:04
Pawkywell.. can't chroot into that one..08:06
Pawkythats my home partition..08:06
Stskeepschroot is a bit difficult without mounting proc and sys and dev too08:06
PawkyStskeeps: true...08:06
Stskeepsanyhow08:06
Stskeepsmount -o subvolid=0 wasn't it08:07
Pawkyprobably just need to patch fstab, no real chroot needed..08:07
SK_workPawky: well true08:07
PawkyStskeeps: got me a tiny bit lost here..08:07
Stskeepsmount -o subvolid=0 /dev/mmcblk0p28 /mnt/rootfs08:07
PawkyStskeeps: ahh ok..08:08
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Pawkyduh... what are those @ ?08:09
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Stskeeps@home is what you'll want08:09
Stskeepsor @/etc/fstab08:09
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Pawkyis @ jolla specific... or is my linux knowledge getting a bit outdated?08:10
Stskeepsbtfs08:10
Stskeepsbtrfs08:10
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Pawkythe reason for my troubles is, I did that move alien dalvik stuff to your btrfs sd trick..08:11
Pawkyit didn't state what to put in the fstab though... any suggestions?08:11
PawkyI did the subvolume stuff of /media/data etc..08:12
PawkyI believe my problem is I forgot to put it into fstab..08:12
Pawkyand I am a tiny bit vary what to put into fstab...08:12
Pawkyobviously btrfs is not my field of expertise.... yet.... :-(08:13
pp_btrfs is scary08:14
Pawkypp_: yes, but also really cool08:14
pp_yup, my 400GB PCI-E btrfs raid0 is quite nice :-)08:16
Pawkyhas anyone done that alien dalvik to sd card thing?08:18
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Pawkycould I do like init 5 or something once I have chooted the thing? :-)08:22
Stskeepssync; reboot -f ?08:22
PawkyStskeeps: but then I loose my chroot..08:23
PawkyI just want to boot while chrooted08:23
Pawky:q08:23
Pawky:-)08:23
Stskeepsno.08:23
Stskeeps:P08:23
PawkyStskeeps: Am I assuming right you haven't done the move android data to sd right?08:24
Stskeepsno, it sounds risky08:25
Pawkywell.. its a copy.. shouldn't be too risky..08:25
Pawkybut, the question is, will the phone boot loop if having any trouble with the alien dalvik?08:26
Pawkyshouldn't it just boot a bit degraded?08:26
ballockas we're on btrfs and using sd card08:27
Pawkyballock: yes?08:27
ballockWhat's the parameters of the internal mmc?08:27
ballockLike: what kind of SD card would I need to get to get performance on par with that08:27
ballockso that I could simply extend the root btrfs filesystem with an SD card?08:28
Pawkyballock: like.. what type of internal card is it using at the moment?08:28
ballockI mean Jolla generally, and I mean the internal flash exported as /dev/mmc008:29
Pawkyno clue...08:29
ballock(or mmcblk0 that was)08:29
ballockStskeeps would know08:29
ballock:)08:29
Stskeepsballock: i don't remember offhand but class 10 isn't a bad assumption08:29
ballockI guess it's some kind of special for small block writes?08:30
Pawkyok, now to some nube question.. how do I get the UUID of my external sd card?08:30
PawkyI assume I need that to mount the partition somehow..08:30
ballockls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid08:30
meklu^08:30
Pawkydoesnt exist08:30
mekluthat's certainly interesting08:31
Pawkyit surely is..08:31
Pawkynever seen that before..08:31
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Pawkythen again... what have I seen in this world?....08:31
ballockI guess you don't run udev then?08:31
Stskeepsthere's no udev in recovery mode.08:31
Pawkyexplains it..08:32
Pawkyso.. whats my pick?08:32
ballockwhat'ya got there? ext4?08:32
Pawkyi am a tiny bit lost of the syntax to put into my fstab for my btrfs sd card08:32
Pawkyand its sub volumes..08:32
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ballockon my 3.16 machine it shows up in dmesg, so you can try dmesg |grep -i btrfs08:34
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ballockPawky: if you created your btrfs on the sd without any subvolumes or whatsoever08:35
ballockyou'll have just a single / volume there, and that would be the default volume08:36
Pawkyballock: I have sub volumes..08:36
PawkyI did this:08:36
ballockso you can skip the subvol= option in fstab08:36
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Pawkyhttps://together.jolla.com/question/40802/how-to-format-your-usd-card-to-btrfs-and-share-space-with-android/08:36
Pawkyand... rebooted..08:36
ballockDid you read this part:08:37
ballock"detailed cmds use at your own risk"08:37
Pawkyballock: ha ha.. very funny... It doesn't state... use and destroy.. does it?08:37
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ballockok, so you've got a 'jolla' and 'android' subvols in there08:38
Pawkyyour own risk means, you probably have to fix things if things go a bit woshy.. and thats where I am at..08:38
Pawkyyes08:38
ballockso the way you create fstab entries08:38
Pawkythere is one question though..08:38
ballockis... damn, systemd-style fstab or regular one?08:39
Pawkyin that description he talks all the time about /dev/mmcblk1 whilst the partion is /dev/mmcblk1p1... how come?08:39
Pawkyregular one08:39
Pawkyluckily for us old timers. ;-)08:39
ballockHe never created any partitions on the SD08:39
Pawkyyou should try it, its great fun :-D08:39
ballockthus he does not have the first partition, skips the mbr and just treats the whole of the SD as the partition08:40
Pawkyok..08:40
Pawkywell I asume I aldeady had the MBR then and thats why I got it under p108:40
Pawky(everybody nods... "hes certainly no partion expert, that pawky... ")08:41
ballockThis should work:08:41
PawkyI assume all I need to do is to get the partion at boot time..08:41
ballockUUID=[your partition UUID=       /mountpoint               btrfs   ssd,subvol=jolla      0       108:42
PawkyI believe that guys andoirdsdcard.service is not working properly at the moment..08:42
Pawkyballock: true.. but I have no UUID :-( none where found when grepping)08:42
ballockyou can try /dev/mmcblk1p1 then08:43
Pawky:-)08:43
PawkyThats what I suspected..08:43
ballockAlternatively, take it out of the phone, put it into a Linux machine and read /dev/disk/by-uuid08:43
meklusystemd, the init that sticks you in a boot loop if you have an erroneous service file :)08:44
Pawkymeklu: ?08:44
meklujust a general complaint about systemd08:44
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Pawky:-/08:45
mekluat least it used to do that when I first installed it on my desktop08:45
AL13N_workanyone here have an android phone?08:45
AL13N_workit seems i cannot install apps anymore08:45
Pawkydoes jolla count?08:45
AL13N_workgoogle play?08:45
* meklu had a 2.3 phone08:45
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AL13N_workit seems to complain that i need to enter credit card info08:45
AL13N_worki used to complain08:45
AL13N_workbut now it doesn't proceed08:45
PawkyAL13N_work: isnt there an old article on that on together.jolla.com?08:46
AL13N_workso i can't install any apps anymore08:46
AL13N_workthis morning i could install 1 free app and then google play looked different (probably updated itself)08:46
AL13N_work(i don't have andriod apps on my jolla)08:46
AL13N_workbut, this is scandalous, right? you agree?08:47
Pawkywhich part?08:47
Pawkyyou wanting to use android, or not having apps on jolla?08:47
ballockYes. Software should have no bugs! It's scandalous that it has.08:47
tadzikwanting your credit card number scandalous?08:48
AL13N_workPawky: i got the android from work, and i needed to install something from my boss08:48
AL13N_workall of the above, really08:48
tadzikThe fact that they pretend that they don't already have it is just a bizzare UX08:48
AL13N_workwell, i don't have a credit card08:48
AL13N_workso08:48
AL13N_worki can't install any apps anymore08:48
AL13N_workpiece of crap08:49
ballockBut I'm also against owning a user by the application.08:49
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tadzikwell, you'll sure not have it the other way around... ;)08:49
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ballockWell, I think I still have this in the open-source world.08:49
ballockThere are some creeps coming in here and there08:50
tadzikwhen there's no service behind the app and you actually get the app and not the right to install it, sure08:50
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ballockbut the general ecosystem is still healthy08:50
ballockIt's almost a year and I still don't feel to own the Sailfish OS on my Jolla.08:51
ballockI haven't booted to rescue yet, tweaked with the bootloader, toasted the systemd as Pawky did08:52
ballockexchanged the software pieces etc08:52
Stskeepsyou're getting old?08:52
Pawkyballock:welcome to the club :-)08:52
ballockDamn, that might be it.08:52
Pawkywell.. tried the btrfs recover as well.. still boot looping..08:52
Pawkyi am a bit unsure why though...08:52
Pawkyif the subvolume doesn't get mounted, it should happily find the original directory and boot..08:53
Pawkycould it be something completely different "quote monty python"?08:53
PawkyI love jolla, its such an easy phone to work with :-) no hazzle,  no aegis..08:54
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ballockI am doing progress, though. I already mastered btrfs, introduced that to my armv5 NAS device and cheap Compact-Flash based historical hardware08:55
ballockI mastered U-boot on my imx53 and the NAS device too08:56
ballockI can handle MTD offsets, though Jolla has regular mmc block device08:56
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ballockSo my stumblers on Jolla that are left is systemd, RPM and pkcon, and Wayland.08:57
ballockI come from Debian world, and RPM packaging is a wide topic, though I know some of it by now. pkcon is weird.08:58
ballockWayland and systemd... well. I will get systemd one way or the other in Debian too. Perhaps I should start that off with Jessie.08:59
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r0kk3rzyou probably wont have to do too much with wayland, but systemd is probably worth learning09:00
r0kk3rzsince its already everywhere09:00
ballockWhat's cool is that all of this was on the device long before I got to use it on a full-blown (read: easier and more familiar) desktop device09:00
Pawkyballock: what is your suggestion getting my phone to boot again, looking upon that description on together, am I right its probably that androidsdcard.service stuff that needs to be moved?09:01
Pawkysystemd is yet a mystery to me as well..09:01
ballock"everywhere"? Well, none of the systems I use have systemd aside Jolla.09:01
ballockAnd I've got a couple of thousands of them.09:01
Pawkyhording? ;-)09:02
Pawky(hoarding)09:02
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ballockPawky: If I were you, I would try to bring back the original state, and see if it boots correctly09:03
Pawkyballock: thats what I am slowly doing.. though i don't really know what an "old state" would be..09:04
ballockIf you don't want to do a factory reset, but can get the files back, then you should be good (if it boots afterwards)09:04
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Pawkyall thats done is creating two partions on the sd card, and mounted a subvolume over /data/media09:04
ballockYeah, it looks like that.09:04
ballockTry moving the androidsdcard.service out of the way09:04
r0kk3rzwell its in debian, redhat, ubuntu, arch, suse ...09:05
r0kk3rzthats pretty much everywhere09:05
r0kk3rzjust because you havent dist-upgraded yet09:05
ballockr0kk3rz: you forgot the version qulifier09:05
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ballockbut yes, I know09:05
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ballockand yes, it's just a question of time09:05
ballockPawky: if it boots afterwards,09:06
ballockI would first try to create a similar service, but mount it to some arbitrarily unneeded location09:06
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ballocklike /bullshit09:06
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ballock(just make a dir first)09:06
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ballockso to check if it's a problem with mounting or with mounting to /data/media09:07
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Pawkyballock: i did just that.. no luck yet09:07
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Pawkyballock: the removikng of that service file i meant09:07
ballockCuase if it does not boot without the SD card (try removing it just in case there was something in the kernel), and without the service09:08
PawkyI am cleaning up fstab at the moment, and will try a boot from that.09:08
ballockthen you broke something else on the way.09:08
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Pawkyballock: might be, but a bit unlikely..09:08
Pawky(i hate the absence of vim!)09:09
ballockthere's vi which I believe to be vim09:09
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ballockbut not in android recovery, no09:09
Pawkyam I right everything under /data/media should be media_rw:media_rw?09:12
Pawkystill boot looping :'(09:12
ballockYou can try to see if that was the case in the factory image09:13
ballockmount /dev/mmcblk0p28 /factory -o subvol=factory-@09:14
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ballocksorry09:14
ballockmount /dev/mmcblk0p28 /factory -o subvol=factory-@,ro09:14
ballockdon't mount it read-write as otherwise you may toast your factory reset09:14
ballockbtw09:14
ballockStskeeps: why is the factory-@ subvolume not a read-only snapshot?09:15
Stskeepswe might want to update it at some point?09:15
Pawkyballock: nope doesn't boot without sd as well :-(   but whats your idea with mounting factory?  I mean, I can mount the current partition fine in recovery09:16
Pawkydo you mean i should patch fstab to boot factory?09:16
ballockthen you create a read-write subvoolue from the ro snapshot, edit, snapshot and rename?09:16
ballockPawky: I meant that you can mount /dev/mmcblk0p28 in two directories09:17
ballocksay, /factory and /custom09:18
ballockwith subvol=factory-@ and subvol=@09:18
Pawkyballock: ahh.. and compare?09:18
ballockand yes09:18
Pawkywill do...09:18
ballockThat would tell you what might be broken09:18
ballockOf course, you can always perform a factory reset, which is easier09:18
ballockbut less adventurous09:19
ballock:p09:19
ballockand be sure to add "ro" when mounting factory-@09:20
ballockjust in case; well you don't want to alter atime on the factory image, right?09:21
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ballockDoes Jolla support sdxc?09:51
ballock(I know this has been asked already)09:51
ballockdarn, why am I asking that09:51
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ballocknvm09:52
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pdanekballock: I think it might, but not guaranteed10:10
pdanekdepends on card10:10
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pdanek64G is guarantee10:10
ballockoh, so https://together.jolla.com/question/34087/wiki-microsd-microsdhc-microsdxc-card/ is not totally authoritative10:10
ballockoh, size quantifier10:10
Nicd-well, there are no 128 GB microsd cards on the market yet so it's hard to guarantee they'll work :P10:11
Nicd-well, apparently there are now. didn't use to be last winter10:12
ggabrieli thikn i've seen 256GB ones...10:12
ballockoh, cool. I found some internal flash test https://together.jolla.com/question/25286/are-the-data-buses-for-microsd-and-internal-flash-separate/10:13
ballock~12MB/s10:13
ballocksequentail write10:13
ballockthat doesn't seem like a lot, I should be able to find a comparable SD card10:13
Nicd-ggabriel: no, not yet10:14
ggabrieltrue, there are some, but not microsd10:15
Nicd-of course, that doesn't stop you from buying some from china: http://yixinhong.en.made-in-china.com/product/QXVxFhpJORkH/China-High-Speed-256GB-Micro-SD-Card-Class10-YXH028-.html ;)10:15
ggabrielthe price tho10:15
ggabrielchina has 1TB ones i heard10:15
ggabrielnanosd format10:16
ggabrielclass 20010:16
ggabrielgive me money through paypal money back gurantee10:16
ggabrielah well, jokes aside, we'll probably have 256GB soon on microsd10:16
ggabrielnot sure how i'd fill up so much space10:16
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Nicd-some fakes on ebay too: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ssc=1&_nkw=256gb+micro+sd+card&_sop=1510:17
Pawkyballock: cannot mount factory ro...10:17
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Pawkyahh.. mount -o remount,ro :-)10:24
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Pawkywhat the hell.. its still boot looping.. now I replaced the fstab with the one in factory..10:38
Pawkywhat else could it be???10:38
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Pawkyhmmm... why is my /home/nemo/android_storage empty?....10:45
Pawkyis that a good or a bad thing?10:45
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ShinryuuI don't use android stuff with Jolla so I have no idea about that thing10:48
Pawkywell.. all I want is to escape the boot loop..10:49
Shinryuumhh10:50
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Pawkylooking upon the systemboot.log, i have http://pastebin.com/9ZWeWz0610:51
Pawkyit contains lots of these...10:51
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Shinryuuc__C10:53
Pawkywhy does the /usr/sbin/mce issue a shutdown request?10:53
Shinryuuhow did this issue appear?10:53
PawkyI followed this.. https://together.jolla.com/question/22079/howto-all-pc-users-recover-or-reset-a-device-that-is-stuck-in-boot-loop/10:53
Stskeepsjust factory reset your device at this point?10:53
Pawkybut didn't reboot until a few days later... until then it happily worked..10:54
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PawkyThe android happily used the stuff on the sdcard..10:54
Pawkynow I have reset the fstab, removed the androidsdcard.service file, but it still will not boot10:54
gexcone of my colleagues is interested in jolla, not sure if I should encourage him to get one though10:55
Pawkyso, if the fstab is stock (directly copied from factory), and the file removed, what on earth makes things go haywire?10:55
Pawkygexc: why does he want it?10:56
Shinryuugexc: if he loves to fiddle with things = then yeah baby!10:56
Pawkyi believe one does need to have  a positive atitude towards jolla, linux etc..10:56
gexcit seems he likes the design :)10:56
PawkyI second that10:56
Pawkydesign guys -> iPhone10:57
Shinryuuthis poppy red looks too bright10:57
gexchowever it's f*cking China here :-/10:57
Pawkysounds like my future10:57
tadzikshould've bought The First One :P10:57
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gexcstill some rough edges :-/10:57
Pawkyany one knowing why /usr/sbin/mce does issue shutdown request aright after boot?10:57
Pawkyohh.. ehh.. that was probably the last real shutdown i did before it started to boot loop10:58
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Pawkyduh?  why does /var/log have opensuse stuff such as the YaST2 directory ?11:00
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ballockPawky: heritage11:09
Pawkycool...11:10
Pawkyany ideas regarding my looping phone?11:10
Pawkyfstab is now copied from factory..11:10
PawkyI am supecting EFI is not finding the partition.. or equivalent11:10
Pawkyi am no EFI guy though..11:10
ballockWell, try backing up and resetting to factory then.11:10
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Pawkywhat needs to be backed up? it keeps home I hope?11:11
ballockYou can try doing that with mounting with subvol=/, renaming @ to @-borked11:11
ballockand running a btrfs subvolume snapshot factory-@ @11:11
ballockthat should bring everything but your /home back to factory11:12
ballockIf it does not boot, well...11:12
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Pawkyballock: how much of a risky business would you say that is?11:29
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ballockPawky: I would do it. But I would actually have a dd'ed copy of /dev/mmcblk0p28 on my desktop before even attempting what you did.11:30
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ballockI did this before updating btrfs-progs to 3.1611:31
Pawkyballock: but all I did earlier was fiddle with my own 64gb sd card, and then mounting over /data/media11:31
PawkyThe only thing I did touch root whise was the fstab... :-(11:31
Pawkyand put in that androidsdcard.service11:32
ballockPawky: Well, unaware of the consequences, you unleashed the evil that was hiding inside it.11:32
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Pawkyaegis?11:32
Pawky:-P11:32
* ponky saw himself speaking11:33
clauout-of-body experience?11:35
* ballock did not see ponky speaking11:35
Pawkyballock: but seriously, could you give me a hint what else could go wrong? I am very much suspecting EFI... is there a way to fiddle with that?11:35
Pawkyit was such a long time ago I did it..11:35
ponkyit's Ponky, usually11:35
ballockPonky: your nick looks like ponky, though11:36
Pawkyponkys nick is ponky...11:37
ballockPawky: I don't know what you mean. Does the device have EFI? I thought it would have a regular ARM-style U-boot.11:37
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Pawkyyeah.. i think i saw this when looking with fdisk11:37
ballockPawky: Why not drop in, let's meet at a pub and hack the device?11:38
Pawkysounds great :-)11:39
ggabrielalcohol and hacking...11:39
Pawkybut I assume you are half around the globe or similar....11:39
ballockSo, this time the alcohol-hacking session's gonna be in Wrocław :)11:39
Pawkysounds like... Poland?11:39
ballockI know of no other Wrocław than the one in Poland.11:40
Pawky:-)11:40
ballockSo, how far is it?11:41
StskeepsPawky: where in poland? i'm in warsaw11:41
ballockA friend of mine hosts a Hackerspace here in Wrocław.11:42
ballockStskeeps: I think Pawky is currently buying tickets.11:44
ballockhis IP address looks like Sweden11:45
Pawkyballock: stockholm Wroclaw?... about.. 1000km?11:45
ballocktake an (air)bus11:46
ggabrielcycle11:46
Pawky1422 to be exakt..11:46
ballockwatercycle!11:46
Nicd-take the Wasa by sea to Poland11:46
Pawkyggabriel: done that, been there ;-)11:46
Pawkybicycled to Prag, on the way back through Poland..11:47
ggabrielnice11:47
Pawky:-)11:47
Pawkyactually, i did probably bicycle through wroclaw11:47
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ballockyou could have stopped by, now you can only go back in time, and tell yourself to drop a note on the IRC11:48
ballockand get a beer :p11:48
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ggabrielballock: i'm impressed that you can think of beer at this time of the day (or maybe i drank too much yesterday)11:50
ballockggabriel: it's past noon.11:50
ggabrielok, perhaps the latter then11:51
ballockBesides, thinking about a woman is not rape yet.11:51
ballockor... is not an act of rape?11:51
ballockBut I didn't drink yesterday, honestly!11:51
Pawkyat least we went through poznan, towards swinujscie11:52
Pawkyballock: /dev/mmcblk0p1   1   266306  2147483647+ ee EFI GPT11:52
Pawkylooks like EFI?11:52
ballockLooks like an EFI partition table.11:52
ballocksee http://lists.denx.de/pipermail/u-boot/2012-August/132263.html11:54
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ballockIt seems U-boot perfectly supports the (EFI) G Partitioning Table11:55
ballockand, MBR is overrated, why are you supposed to have a DOS-style partitioning table on a mobile device?11:56
Pawkyballock: nope after snapshot, its still boot looping... (with sd card removed)11:56
Pawkyggabriel: wroclaw isnt to far of checkia, with great beer :-)11:56
ballockso @ is now a snapshot from factory-@?11:57
Pawkyballock: was that a rethorical question?11:57
Pawkyyes..11:57
ballockPawky: Did I hear correctly that you had bootloop issues in the past already?11:58
Pawkyas you wrote...11:58
Pawkynope.. never had11:58
Pawkyjust got it this morning, which I kind of expected as I made this android data to sd card switch and was weary about wether this btrfs partition would be mounted correctly after a boot11:59
Pawkybut now the fstab is in its original state, thus android will happily find all its stuff in its original position12:04
* Pawky interestingly thought i created the file chrootme, only to misspell it to chootme... :-P12:04
Pawkyhope my phone doesn't take it to litterary12:04
Pawkyhow does one go about checking/fixing efi issues on this phone?12:04
Pawkyif there is any ..12:04
Stskeepswe don't have efi12:04
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PawkyWTF? isnt vi in factory?12:05
PawkyStskeeps: but the partition seems to state so...?12:06
Stskeepsah, you mean GPT12:06
Pawkyyes...12:06
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Pawkyif ... vi is not in factory... then what is there to use as a text editor?12:07
Yanielvim12:07
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ggabrieled :P12:08
PawkyYaniel: very funny...12:08
YanielI'm serious12:08
Pawkyneither vim, ed , nano or what have seems to exist from the cloned factory partition12:08
ggabrielsed?12:08
Pawkyggabriel: yeah.. echo, sed, cat and what have you.. honestly?12:09
ggabrielwell, i had to resort to that in the past...12:09
Pawkyi thought vi came with the phone..12:09
ggabrielit does12:10
Yanielwith dev mode maybe?12:10
PawkyI am thinking, could somehow the UUID have changed on the disk, and this causing the boot issues? if so, how do I get hold of its current UUID, its not in dmesg12:10
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PawkyYaniel: wont I need to boot to set the dev mode?12:10
ggabrieluuid generally doesn't change12:11
Yanielpretty much12:11
Pawkyggabriel: true, but if it would, i would be in trouble.. as I have not done much, i have no other ideas why it wont boot..12:12
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PawkyYaniel: May I recomend a good song "There's a hole in the bucket"  for you? :-/12:12
ballockPawky: try changing journalctl to write to persistent storage, get into bootloop, then try to read off it12:12
ballockI need to get back to my day job, sorry, I might be away from IRC.12:13
Pawkyballock: that sounds like a cool idea..12:13
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Pawkycool thanks by the way12:13
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PawkyJonni: you have always saved me when having boot issues, any ideas? :-)12:17
mekluto have UUID stuff work, you'd probably need to have the /dev/disk/by-uuid/ device node symlinks in order12:17
mekluby the time PID 1 kicks in12:18
mekluor the init12:18
mekluech12:18
Pawkymeklu: cant I just change it to /dev/mmcblk0p1 ?12:18
Pawkyfor the time being?12:18
ballockPawky: now you're risking12:18
JonniPawky: well recovery menu has shell, and you should be able to mount and fix issues from there and/or run btrfs balance12:19
Pawkyok, ill guess thats a no no then..12:19
JonniPawky: and do no not touch mmcblk0p1 as then your in deep shit :)12:20
ballockno no. Besides, root sits on /dev/mmcblk0p2812:20
Jonnip28 is the rootfs12:20
PawkyJonni: I am already in the shell, and fiddling around with btrfs, everything looks ok.. i even changed to run from a copy of factory, but it still will not boot12:20
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eyea_UKjolla )0!1@ Yoh12:21
eyea_UKp12:21
Pawkyballock: just a thought... aren't the logs on the @ actually the last ones? I mean rescue doesn't write there does it?12:21
JonniPawky: and you have tried to mount @home and @root an they work?12:21
PawkyJonni: yes.. when mounting12:21
Pawkybut it just wont boot12:21
Pawkyit loops..12:21
ballockPawky: journalctl save the log to ram by default12:21
Pawkyballock: ohh... uhh.. ok12:22
ballockso ain't gonna get shit after a bootloop12:22
JonniPawky: and you have runned that btrfs reset from the menu?12:22
Pawkyyes..12:22
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Pawkynumbe 5 on the menue12:22
Pawkyso.. it all looks ok.. fstab etc.. i can mount and chroot to it.. everybody's happy, until trying to boot12:22
ballockPawky: you can try doing the same with @home snapshot, I guess some service may require consistency between nemo user home data and root12:22
Pawkyballock: thats a great idea :-)12:23
ballockactually, that's like factory reset\12:23
Pawkyballock: well.. but doing a snapshot will make me be able to get the stuff back right?12:24
ballockjust keeping your data as hidden subvolumes12:24
Pawkyjust mounting the @home-borked again?12:24
ballockyes12:24
Pawky:-)12:24
Pawkyas i thought... he he...12:24
ballockBut be wise - backup anyway.12:24
AL13N_work:-)12:24
Pawkyhmm..12:24
ggabrielbackup? how do you pronounce that?12:25
AL13N_workie: walking backwards12:25
ballockIt sounds like Brzęczyszczykiewicz.12:25
AL13N_workwelsh12:26
AL13N_workah no, welsh had no vowels, right?12:26
ballockWhen you manage to say Brzęczyszczykiewicz, backup is just one step ahead.12:26
AL13N_worklol12:26
ggabrielbetter stay away from that then ;)12:28
ballockWhen I sent my Jolla for care, I already knew the factory image was borked due to btrfs checksum errors on it.12:28
ballockAnd *honestly*: it wasn't me!12:28
Pawkyballock: how to chech checksum errors?12:28
ggabrieli've got a Brzeczyszczykiewicz of the first partitions12:28
ggabrielas in first versions12:28
ballockbtrfs scrub12:29
Pawkywould be in dmesg right?12:29
AL13N_workjournal should log checksum errors, and probably scrub12:29
ballockBut don't run it.12:29
Pawkyballock: because?12:29
ballockThe version on Jolla might be too ancient.12:29
AL13N_worki don't think scrub has ever been really damaging...12:29
ggabrielsailfish's btrfs is old indeed12:29
ballockI first dd-ed the image to a 3.16 machine and then tried anything.12:29
AL13N_workwell, btrfs is old, because kernel is old12:29
ggabrielAL13N_work: tomatoes, potatoes :)12:30
Pawkyia m old...12:30
AL13N_workand kernel is old due to drivers12:30
ggabrieland drivers are old due to google12:30
Pawkyatleast i feel old with this new sysctl and chkcofig crap..12:30
ggabriel(let's shift the blame)12:30
AL13N_worki wish they would put in the patch in btrfs-progs though, that allows to use btrfs-send+receive nicely12:30
ballockAnd although some guys here worked on that, it's unclear which btrfs version we're running in the kernel12:31
AL13N_worki donno, it looks like a plain kernel version to me12:31
AL13N_worki've used btrfs for a few years now12:31
ballockAL13N_work: noooo12:31
Pawkyyeeeees12:31
ballockIf Jolla was running an unpatched btrfs from 3.4, man, we're doomed/12:32
AL13N_workwhy?12:32
AL13N_workiirc only the ENOSPACE was an issue at that point12:32
tbrbecause it was plain sh*t back then12:32
AL13N_worktbr: how many patches are on top of that?12:33
ballockAnything up to and including 3.13 was totally.. yeah that's a good word12:33
ballockAL13N_work: I updated the btrfs-progs, but that helped not12:33
AL13N_workwell, ideally btrfs-progs is at the same feature-level as the kernel btrfs12:34
ballockSo you say it's about version?12:35
AL13N_worki'm not a sailor, so i don't have the knowledge12:35
PawkyJonni: what would happen if I accidentally had a mount point /dev/mmcblk0p1 instead of my sd card /dev/mmcblk1p1 in fstab?....12:35
ballockAL13N_work: You mentioned the patches on tjc already12:35
AL13N_workthe btrfs-progs patches, yeah12:35
ballockAL13N_work: why didn't you try patching it yourself?12:36
AL13N_workif i had the time, i could probably try to get this on mer12:36
AL13N_worktime's a bitch12:36
* AL13N_work needs more of that12:36
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ballockI'm married I avoid time12:37
PawkyJonni: what would happen if I accidentally had a mount point /dev/mmcblk0p1 instead of my sd card /dev/mmcblk1p1 in fstab?....12:37
Pawkyuh.. oh.. i already sent that one..12:37
ballockPawky: one of your boot services could have messud up your p112:37
ballockinternal in Jolla12:38
Pawkyballock: and how to fix it?12:38
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ballockBring it back from backup?12:38
AL13N_workballock: you married too?12:38
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PawkyI wonder why no wimen have the name "time" :-P12:39
AL13N_workhaha12:39
Pawky(women)12:39
Pawkyi have no time,12:39
ballockYes. I think they're just envious about the time bitch12:39
Pawkyi have plenty of time12:39
Pawkytime to go12:39
AL13N_workwell, with wife + kids + job, it's not easy to spend time on open-source, and jolla isn't the only thing i'm putting time in12:39
ballockthey take that time away :p12:39
Pawkytime available...12:39
PawkyLOL12:39
Pawkytime well spent :-)12:39
Pawkyi have no time12:39
Pawkytime is of the essence12:40
Pawkywould be great.. if i ever get kids, my first daughter will have the name time12:40
Pawkymore time in this world :-)12:41
JonniPawky: 0p1 is emgdload, so if you accidentally edit that, then there is a danger of perm brick, as only factory flasher can recover those ones (and care points dont have factory cables). So you can only hope that fstab mounter has some checker that if it doesnt regognize the partition then it does not mount it :)12:41
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AL13N_worki wanted to name mine Arya, but my wife didn't agree back then (before GoT was out)12:41
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PawkyJonni: anyway to check if this has happened? checksum whatever?12:42
ballockBut if we're at it, can somebody (Stskeeps?) point us to the btrfs-progs git repo for Jolla?12:42
tadzikheh, I'm thinking about getting a dog and naming it either Dax or Drizzt12:42
tadzikmaybe I should get two12:42
ballockThere must be one, the version has +git in it.12:42
AL13N_workit's probably the github one with mer-tools12:42
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ballocktadzik: My friend named his cat NUMA.12:43
clauuuu... aptoide store update! and now it says "Unfortunately, Aptoide Appstore has stopped", when I start it.12:43
JonniPawky: from recovery menu maybe spawn second shell for dmesg while you run btrfs fix commands. Otherwise jolla care for reflashing.12:43
tadzikhaha12:43
Nicd-clau: try again12:43
clauyep, it's ok.12:43
Nicd-mine crashed on the first launch to12:43
Nicd-too*12:43
AL13N_workballock: NUMA placement failed12:43
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ballockAL13N_work: where's mer-tools git?12:44
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clauthere's something wrong with Skype in Aptoide, I get version 5.1.76.50382, but when I try to open it, it says there's no apk12:46
clauI had to install Skype from Yandex12:46
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AL13N_workhttps://github.com/mer-tools12:47
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ballocknay, no btrfs there12:47
ballockthe package was in nemo middleware in OBS12:47
ballockDoes that ring any bell?12:48
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Pawkyhow does one address a btrfs subvolume for doing a backup using dd?12:55
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AL13N_workballock: i thought the mer/nemo migration was done already?13:02
AL13N_worktbr: ?13:02
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Pawkyfor christ sake, this factory has really nothing, no tar, no rsync nothing... i hope scp will do as a home backup..13:05
ballockisn't it busybox?13:08
ballockIt's got netcat, that should do everything you need.13:08
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AL13N_workballock: that reminds me, yesterday i tried netcat to transfer a file, but i got some odd things13:09
Pawkyballock: do you know how to address the @home as a source partition for dd?13:09
ballockPawky: for dd you address the block device13:09
ballockso you copy all the 16 gigs13:09
AL13N_worknc -l <ip> <port> > file.ext13:09
Pawkyballock: yes.. and what would a sub volume block device look like?..13:09
ballockthere's none13:10
AL13N_workand i did a watch on the file and it grew and shrunk constantly13:10
Pawky:-(13:10
Pawkyso.. if using dd i will have to take the whole mmcblock0p28?13:10
ballockPawky: subvolumes are not block devices13:10
Pawkywell netcat is good and all, but then I believ scp will make it a bit easier..13:10
ballockYup. That's why AL13N_work and myself want btrfs send to work13:10
AL13N_workincremental13:10
Pawkyballock: true, but i thought one could sneakily address it as one13:10
AL13N_worknope13:11
ballockPawky: you seem to dislike backup as cats dislike water13:11
AL13N_workballock: but seriously, how do you do netcat file transfer?13:11
ballockonly water your claws?13:11
AL13N_workmy wife had a cat when she was little that loved to swim13:11
Pawkyballock: well... I aaaam backing up now... at least home..13:11
AL13N_workgo figure13:11
PawkyI am just scared Jonni might be on to something if i accidentally put mmcblk0p1 instead of mmcblk1p1 in the fstab earlier.... :'(13:12
ballockPawky: regular files? With cp/scp? Pray God you're not loosing any xattrs or whatsoever!13:12
Pawkybecause sending my phone away isn't really my coup of tee..13:13
ballockOh, wait. scp even updates mtime!13:13
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AL13N_workballock: it has -a iirc13:13
Pawkyballock: well in the end, its just a home directory...13:13
AL13N_workbut if you want more performance, due to the ssl crypto slowness, netcat does the trick13:13
Pawkybeyond music, pictures, books and what have you if it needs a reset it will get it and then some...13:14
Jonninetcat pipe of tar.gz does the trick13:14
AL13N_workballock: Pawky: would it be possible to pipe dd to scp or something?13:14
PawkyJonni: there is no tar in the factory partition :-(13:14
ballockPawky: If that's what you're comfortable with - so be it. I sustain my cat analogy, even though AL13N_work's wife's cat.13:14
AL13N_worklol13:14
Pawkyballock: well.. I could do cat ...13:15
AL13N_worki have to say it's one in 30 cats for her, so...13:15
JonniPawky: you can always copy tar in there :)13:15
ballockdd if=/dev/mmcblk0 |ssh myhome 'cat >jolla-flash.img'13:15
Pawkybut would that make xattrs more happy?13:15
Pawkyballock: shouldnt it be 28?13:15
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AL13N_workhe's doing the full disk13:15
AL13N_worknot just the partition with btrfs13:15
ballocknah, you can discover the partitions with partprobe afterwards when you losetup the image13:16
AL13N_workballock: does the recovery have ssh?13:17
AL13N_worki didn't think so13:17
Pawkyi wonder if the 42 in the ip address is just a coinsidence...13:17
ballockAL13N_work: regarding netcat file copy: it worked for me most of the time like you mention13:17
AL13N_workheh13:17
Jonniwell he cant do full disk ans some areas of blk0 are readonly, so you cannot ever restore blk0 dd copy.13:17
ballockI occasionally had some weird stuff like...13:17
Jonniyou can only do backup of p2813:17
ballockcygwin putting stderr to stdout13:17
clauthere's something wrong with aptoide... I just uninstalled it and it still appears in my apps13:17
AL13N_workballock: the "watch 'du file.img'" did weird things though13:17
clauand I can even start it13:17
ballockthat totally twisted my backup13:17
AL13N_workouch13:18
AL13N_workwhatever the case functional btrfs-send will make things much better13:19
ballockAL13N_work: You really want Linux. Windows tools don't do stuff the right way.13:19
AL13N_workpreaching to the choir13:19
ballockAL13N_work: but what you say is weird13:19
AL13N_worki've been windowsFree since 2thousandANDThree13:19
ballocknc > file is a stream redirection13:19
AL13N_workballock: yesterday my collegue was netcatting an image file13:20
ballockit can't shrink13:20
AL13N_workbecause his rsync was doing only 400kB/s13:20
AL13N_workballock: i know13:20
AL13N_workthe only thing i can think of is EOF stuff or making it start over13:20
AL13N_worki must say that he didn't have netcat-traditional13:21
AL13N_workhe had the other one13:21
ballockAL13N_work: yup, I never got btrfs send work reliably through netcat because of this13:21
AL13N_workit was opensuse, so nuff said13:21
Pawkynothing wrong with opensuse :-)13:21
AL13N_worki'll just shut up13:21
Pawkybeen using it since.... 200313:21
AL13N_workbeen using Mandrake/Mandriva/Mageia since 1997 or so13:22
AL13N_workno need for distro-wars13:22
Pawkytried it... but then they went kind of... bust..13:22
Pawkyso i moved to suse13:22
AL13N_workwhich is why i moved with everyone to Mageia13:22
AL13N_workat the time i was apprenticing for packaging team13:23
Pawkywell.. you seem to have left me behind in the trenches....13:23
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Pawkyuntil ze germans came... with suze :-D13:24
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ballockYes. Suse was just too good.13:33
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ballockEven their Yast tool covered the cases where somebody would press ctrl-c13:34
ballockwhile he was supposed to tab to the quit button13:34
ballockIt was a little bit stray from the Unix approach, but that was one of the things that made suse look sturdier than the rest.13:35
ballockAre they alive yet? After the Attachmate acquisition they more or less looked like dead.13:36
Pawkydamn.. succeded to call the snapshot ?@home13:36
ballockLet me know when you succeed to name it '.'13:39
Pawkyballock: well.. thats where i am at now.. :-(13:39
Pawkyor.. i mean, i am trying to rename it..13:39
Pawkyhow do i rename it???13:40
ballockmv?13:41
Pawkyi believe that will create a full clone..13:41
Pawkyand it doesnt get the ? part of the name :-/13:42
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Pawkygot fed up... did a #1) factory reset...13:56
Pawky....13:56
Pawky"Welcomme!"13:56
Pawky:-)13:56
ballockWow!13:56
ballockcheck if your snapshots are there13:57
Nicd-now don't touch anything before upgrading to the latest ;)13:57
Pawkyi tried all your tricks.. with home and factory and all.. but nope..13:57
Pawkyupgrading? is ther a new version?13:57
ballockfactory comes at 1.0.0.013:57
ballockor was it 1.0.-113:57
Nicd-1.0.0.5 I think13:57
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Pawkyhuh... have to install aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa..... aaaaalll apps again..14:00
Pawkyballock: doesn't it get upgraded at the flash?14:00
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ballock"at the flash"? You mean during the upgrade?14:02
Pawkyaha?14:02
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ballockI believe my factory image was upgraded after it got flashed at care. All the other cases don't upgrade factory image because....14:03
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ballocktradadadam....14:03
ballockIt comes from your FACTORY14:03
ballockand not from OTA update14:03
Nicd-afaik they will update the factory reset image in some future version14:03
PawkyI do hope one can upgrade to the latest right away...14:04
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ballockPawky: nope.14:04
Pawkywell.. now atleast people can call me again...14:04
Pawkynope?14:04
Pawkyso... whats on the menue now?14:04
ballocknope.14:04
Pawkyi hope i can use its own upgrader14:04
ballockYes.14:04
Pawky:-)14:05
Pawkyso, its all about upgrade, and upgrade and upp....14:05
ballockYou can update to 1.0.2, then to 1.0.8... or there's yet another step14:05
Nicd-yeah14:05
Pawkyto get it all "back up"..... mohaha haa ha14:05
ballockPawky: you really *are* scared of water.14:05
Pawkywell... thanks Jonni ballock ggabriel and all for your help today I am of to home :-)14:06
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r0kk3rzto opt into uitikka or not16:00
clauwhat's that?16:00
r0kk3rzupdate 916:00
r0kk3rzthey're releasing a developer preview16:00
Nicd-oh16:00
clauI see16:01
r0kk3rzhttps://together.jolla.com/question/59874/release-notes-opt-in-upgrade-to-software-version-110x-uitukka/16:01
Nicd-source?16:01
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TeguUitukka - UI Hair16:01
r0kk3rzi probably should considering i am an app developer, should make sure that SirenSong works16:01
clauI won't. I can't afford to brick the phone :(.16:01
r0kk3rzclau: it wont brick the phone16:01
r0kk3rzapparently the major outstanding issue is with OOM situations16:02
r0kk3rzwhich tahkalampi doesnt really behave greatly in anyway16:02
coderusUitukka opt-in release available: https://together.jolla.com/question/59874/release-notes-opt-in-upgrade-to-software-version-110x-uitukka/16:02
clauI see. So overall it will be slugish.16:04
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Nicd-damn, now I really have to release sailtime's fix for uitukka16:04
r0kk3rzclau: not overall, just in out of memory situations16:05
r0kk3rzbut i'll install it and see what its like16:05
r0kk3rznicd: what did you have to fix?16:06
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Nicd-r0kk3rz: just making the dialog titles more sensible16:07
r0kk3rzoh right16:07
r0kk3rzsirensong isnt dialog heavy at the moment so its probably fine16:08
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louisdkSounds like the sluggishness woudn't have been an issue if the Jolla phone had more RAM.16:09
Yanielit would be more likely to go completely unnoticed even16:10
Stskeepsi wish that was remotely the issue16:10
Stskeepsthe more ram the more you use16:10
r0kk3rzyeah, ram is always finite, so you need to be able to handle what happens when you run out16:11
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clauI'll wait for some reports, and maybe update over the weekend.16:11
Yanielstill no japanese IME keyboard? :(16:11
louisdkHow many apps will I have to use before it'll behave sluggish?16:12
clauno Romanian keyboard either16:12
clauand I had it on N9 :(16:12
claubtw... any news about Swype-like vkb?16:12
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Blizzzstill broken caldav16:13
sledgesclau: easy to write your own layout: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=9191716:15
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r0kk3rzjolla should really keep and eye on the community efforts and polish and integrate the code (with permission of course)16:34
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ShadowJK(though there's not much OS can do about browser memory use. Web debs are web devs, unfortunately)16:35
ShadowJKBut it'd be cool if jolla email didn't load my entire Maildir into ram ;D16:36
NavIt's be nice if it took notice of the subscription instead of displaying all my no longer subscribed archive folders too....16:37
VDVsxShadowJK, unless you have some special version it does not do that :P16:39
ShadowJKit ooms unless I add more swap, so dunno16:40
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Morpog_PChmm, I have the sluugishness in OOM situations already in Update 8, can it be worse in Update9?16:42
* sledges waves back at DrainBamaged 16:43
StskeepsMorpog_PC: i'd like to use you as guinea pig if it does get worse..16:43
* Morpog_PC googles guinea pig16:44
DrainBamagedo/16:44
sledgesDrainBamaged: a slight latency in my response there :D16:44
DrainBamagedNot too bad16:44
SK_workMorpog_PC: don't know if it is widespread outside FR / BE but guinea pig always makes me think of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Yellow_%22M%2216:45
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Morpog_PCuuuuh tl;dr :D16:46
Morpog_PCat least I don't recognize it as a german ;D16:47
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SK_workMorpog_PC: too bad16:47
SK_worka really good piece of "comic"16:47
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SK_work(even if the format isn't like the american comics)16:47
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pp_ooh, shiny :D16:54
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TMavicaupdate??17:04
Morpog_PCsomehow17:04
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Stskeepsif you ask nicely17:05
Stskeeps:P17:05
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TMavicano finding17:06
TMavica-.-17:06
StskeepsTMavica: https://together.jolla.com/question/59874/release-notes-opt-in-upgrade-to-software-version-11038-uitukka/17:06
Morpog_PCTMavica, https://together.jolla.com/question/59874/release-notes-opt-in-upgrade-to-software-version-11038-uitukka/17:06
* Stskeeps was faster than Morpog_PC 17:07
Stskeeps:P17:07
pp_:-) lessee if it works this time, gmail was changing my vanity email to @gmail.com on me with the last one :-)17:07
Morpog_PCjust a few miliseconds :D17:07
pp_... supposedly I fixed it by adding the address, but lessee17:07
TMavica21/10 tomorrow?17:07
Morpog_PCI'm a bit confused, will it be rolled out 20 minutes after opting in, or on 23rd october?17:08
Morpog_PCor both combined?17:08
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TMavicanow is 23/10 for me17:08
TMavicalol17:08
Morpog_PCnot here ;)17:08
TemeVMorpog_PC: it is available 20 min after opt in17:09
TMavica32/10 1:09am17:09
TemeVjust got mine installed17:09
Yanielwhere'd you get 23rd from17:09
Morpog_PCfrom the very top17:09
Morpog_PCRelease date: 23.10.201417:09
Yanielah there17:09
tigelipraat17:09
r0kk3rzbeen a looooooong 20min so far17:09
Nicd-I'll wait for a few experiences before opting in17:09
Nicd-because I already have OOM issues17:09
YanielI'll wait until weekedn17:10
Morpog_PCNicd-, it can't get worse, can it? :D17:10
Nicd-Morpog_PC: oh it can ;)17:10
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Yanielso I have a spare in case something goes wr- oh right, I can't remember the security code to that one17:10
Morpog_PCandroid firefox is a serious memory killer17:10
TMavicaemail sent17:11
pp_update available!17:12
pp_Go go 4G internet go!17:12
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pdanekStskeeps: here?17:16
ottuloI'm having trouble downloading the update :/17:16
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ottulokeeps stopping the download17:17
tigeliottulo: over wlan/mobile?17:17
ottulotigeli: 3g17:18
coderusottulo: its > 200MB17:18
ottulocoderus: I've got 21 mbps connection :P17:18
ottuloand only 10 on wlan17:18
coderus> 300MB17:19
pp_muahaha, installing update17:19
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ottulostopped on wlan as well17:20
ottuloand I've got plenty of space17:20
ottulowill try rebooting first...17:20
pdanekStskeeps: Try to dial: *111*9*1# --> try to activate the service --> it will ask you to input your email address --> how do I write it down on Jolla? I can't input anything but numbers, is it bug, or am I missing something? (I can just copy paste the email from somewhere)17:22
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Morpog_PCdownloading it takes ages, seems the servers are hammered17:31
* Stskeeps stops torrenting17:31
Morpog_PC:D17:31
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r0kk3rzgetting the update notification takes aages :P17:33
Yanielare you sure you used the right email address?17:34
schmittlauchYes, I've been waiting for mine since an hour17:34
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Yanielit has to be the same you used for your jolla account17:34
r0kk3rzreasonably, its the email that gets all my together notifications17:34
Morpog_PCI've waited like 15 minutes17:34
r0kk3rz1h30m so far17:35
* Mirv running uitukka \o/17:35
Morpog_PCmaybe first one users get prioritized?17:35
schmittlauchI hope their script which manages the opt-in accepts e-mail addresses including a +17:35
ottulook, download went through after reboot, now installing17:35
schmittlauchbecause many sites and applications haven't read the fucking RFC17:36
tigeli:D17:36
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tigelischmittlauch: yes we do handle +17:37
Yanieloh the RFC17:37
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Yanielsuch memories17:37
TMavicadownloading17:37
Mirvthere's something interesting in the scrolling / flicking behavior in uitukka. different, not necessarily worse.17:37
Mirvrunning Tweetian in this example17:37
Yanielhmm?17:37
schmittlauchtigeli: I knew you'd do such things right \0/17:38
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Mirvor maybe it's my fingers being too dry. but the flicking speed would seem different, and sometimes my touch doesn't abort an on-going flick in the same way it used to do before.17:38
Mirvall scrolling is anyway smoother17:38
Morpog_PCMirv, ever tried the performance governor on old version?17:39
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MirvMorpog_PC: I did, shortly, when sletta entered in my Jolla at Qt contributor's summit :) but I mostly played with the home screen with that or at least didn't notice anything very different in behavior as such.17:41
Morpog_PCok, I will soon try it, as soon the update finishes :D17:42
Mirvso, also, doing two flicks in the same direction does not always accelerate it. on the other hand, now that I have Uitukka I probably very rapidly start to forget about how it was before.17:43
Mirvbut that all seems to affect how flicking works in eg. Tweetian, but not eg. browser17:43
Mirvanyhow, pretty excited. hopefully the OOM problems will be fixed soon so that everyone can enjoy the new speed.17:44
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Morpog_PCbrowser is always diffeent17:45
Morpog_PCdifferent17:45
Morpog_PCwell, I guess everyone will get Update 10 then17:45
* Stskeeps opens a cold one17:45
SceltStskeeps: corpse?17:46
Stskeepsbeer.17:46
Sceltoh, oooh17:46
FireFlyIs it terrbily stupid to update if your blk0p28 partition has 6.31GB used, but btrfs has "claimed" all 13.75GB?17:46
Nicd-you should rebalance first I think17:46
FireFlyOkay17:47
pp_everything I tested in < 5 mins worked fine, yay17:47
Nicd-otherwise all sort of strange stuff might happen17:47
Sceltpp_: +117:47
* Morpog_PC wonders whs he never had to rebalance yet17:47
Morpog_PCwhy17:47
pp_lessee if I can still crash lipstick at will :D17:47
Sceltdamn, the phone is quick!17:48
Sceltmaybe after few days it gets back to normal17:48
Sceltusually gotta reboot it once in a week17:48
Mirvoh, after upgrade (and maybe some downloads before it) mine has bumped from 10.07GB now to 12.07 GB used. doh. still some free, though.17:48
YanielI wonder how battery life is affected17:49
Mirv5.5GB free "in reality"17:49
pp_heh, fixed :P17:49
Morpog_PCYaniel, why should it? It's the benefit of the new more efficient scenegrapg renderer in Qt 5.217:50
YanielI was thinking if it has been improved by exactly that17:50
Morpog_PCI guess so17:50
* Morpog_PC will try with performance governor to see if there is still a difference17:51
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TMavicaMorpog_PC: I have reset it before updating17:53
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Morpog_PCnot sure i like the new dialoge system18:03
* FireFly wonders if anyone monitors the e-mails to update9-opt-in just for fun to see what people write18:03
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TMavicawhere i can get sailfish utilities?18:12
TMavicacant see in store18:12
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Morpog_PCwhat kind of wizardry did you guys do on alien-dalvik? It's soooo damn smooth now18:14
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kontioTMavica: you 'see' it in store just if you have update9 (1.1.0.38 uitukka)18:16
TMavicakontio: what the name?18:17
SceltTMavica: found it with search18:18
kontioTMavica: the name of the release, as usual a name of a lake in Finland18:18
Scelt"sailfish utilies"18:18
TMavicathanks18:18
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kontioah you meant the name of the 'sailfish utilities'? I thought you mean Uitukka :) sorry18:20
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Morpog_PCgallery is sooo smooth now18:28
cb400fhmm18:29
Sail0rpebbled: symbol lookup error: pebbled: undefined symbol: _ZN11QtBluetooth16QBluetoothSocket16staticMetaObjectE18:32
Sail0rdamn18:32
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Sail0rhm I don't like the new visualisation for "there is another page"18:33
Sail0rit looks like the app devs did not align the button right18:33
Morpog_PCoh god, i love the browser18:33
Morpog_PCSail0r, they used that before in email app18:33
tadzikis it available for The Second Ones too?18:34
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tadzikah, it's opt-in18:34
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* Sail0r is trying carddav support18:39
schmittlauchIf "Utilities" are only shown to people using Uitukka does that mean the store backend is finally able to distinguish between versions? -> Python apps can be put in store soon?18:39
M4rtinKschmittlauch: that we be really nice! :)18:40
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M4rtinKI'm actually in the process of planing what to tweet on the upcoming "one year without Python" anniversary, just in case :)18:42
Stskeeps:P18:42
Sail0rI don't understand how carddav is supposed to work ^^18:42
r0kk3rzsirensong works18:45
r0kk3rzno obvious bugs18:45
Sail0rtasklist,too so my most used apps are working18:45
Sail0rbut that pebbled is not working anymore is bad :x18:45
r0kk3rz:(18:46
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FireFlyI'm looking forward to try out caldav18:47
StskeepsSail0r: source of app?18:47
Shinryuunow I'm on Uitukka.. hehe notepad app doesn't have icon when you try to change its position :D18:47
schmittlauchSail0r: which caldav server?18:47
Sail0rhttps://github.com/smokku/pebble18:47
Sail0rschmittlauch, owncloud18:48
Sail0rI don't even understand how to configure it at the moment18:48
schmittlauchSail0r: that used to work for me18:48
StskeepsSail0r: okay, rpm form?/18:48
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Sail0rcompiled on my dev env18:49
Sail0r@ Stskeeps18:49
Sail0rdo i have to upgrade the env?18:49
Stskeepshmm, probably need to wait for the sdk18:50
Sail0rk18:50
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Morpog_PCok, using the performance governor isn't worth it anymore18:51
Sail0randroid layer is working too :)18:56
Sail0rok, so I only need the new SDK to get pebbled running again :)18:57
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Nicd-bahhh I can't wait I have to opt-in19:06
Sail0rStskeeps, is there a estimated date for the SDK to get updated? Or a optin for new sdk features?19:06
Nicd-Sail0r: "Corresponding SDK release will be available early next week."19:08
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Sail0rah sry :-/19:09
M4rtinKshouldn't stuff compiled with the current one still work ?19:09
M4rtinKwouldn't be much binary compatible otherwise :)19:10
Sail0rbut maybe libs have changed19:11
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M4rtinKstill, that would mean current apes breaking19:11
StskeepsM4rtinK: for the apis we promise in harbour19:11
M4rtinK*apps19:11
M4rtinKwell right, that could be it19:12
Sail0rbluetooth is not in harbour as far as i know19:12
M4rtinKand that's why I have a fallback for about everything :)19:12
M4rtinKbut I have it easier with only Python & QML :)19:13
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pdanekDo you think Gecko is superior to Blink?19:19
pdanekOr not anymore?19:19
Yanielhardly makes a difference I guess19:20
Yanielthe problem would be xul19:20
chris__Damn... same problems the email attachments... cant show pics in Email or table list :(19:20
rangoyimpressive length of the list of bugfixes :)19:23
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M4rtinKso I can report modRana still works after the update :)19:26
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Morpog_PCoh a new sailfish-browser design19:53
Morpog_PChttps://github.com/sailfishos/sailfish-browser/commit/256f87813f534cf6d3edbf6c7d0f2f818368d0b619:53
schmittlauchHuh, timestamps in Tweetian are missing after update to Uitukka19:53
schmittlauchnice redesign19:55
Morpog_PCschmittlauch, added your finding as issue: https://github.com/veskuh/Tweetian/issues/16719:58
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schmittlauchMorpog_PC: Great, thanks (less effort for me)19:59
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TMavicais the event page always yellow?20:07
ottuloback on 1.0.0.5 :/20:07
Morpog_PCTMavica, no, it's now colored after your ambiance colors20:08
Morpog_PCchange ambiance and see20:08
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TMavicagot it...but i dont like that, lol20:09
schmittlauchClipboard not working for me in Uitukka, anybody experiencing the same?20:09
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Morpog_PCworks for me20:09
TMavicawhen it public release, do we need update again?20:10
schmittlauchMorpog_PC: weird, let's try a reboot20:10
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r0kk3rzTMavica: i think they arent planning on releasing uitukka as a normal release20:18
r0kk3rzjust merging it with update 10 once they're happy20:18
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r0kk3rzwhich makes sense, release the *its gonna break everything* release and wait for people to find all the bugs20:20
r0kk3rzthen continue on the usual update cycle20:20
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TMavicameecast coverpage not working20:25
TMavicashow black20:25
Sail0rhttps://together.jolla.com/question/59893/11038-first-hiccups/20:26
Sail0r:)20:26
TMavicanice20:26
TMavicashould add cameraplus not working too20:28
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Morpog_PCTMavica, Msameer already knows about it20:29
chris__have someone try owncloud CalDAV & CardDAV ?20:30
chris__witz owncloud20:31
chris__with20:31
Sail0rI can only get caldav to work20:32
Sail0rbut I don't see anyway to configure carddav ^^20:32
chris__can you tel me what you type in server and calenders field?20:32
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chris__the complete link is: https://xxx.xx:PORT/owncloud/remote.php/caldav/calenders/admin/defaultcalender20:34
chris__but i dont know what i have to put into server adress and what exactly in calender path... try something, but nothing works :(20:35
tadzikehh, meecast and gpodder broken :(20:36
tadzikat least I have my vibration back20:36
MSameerTMavica: Morpog_PC I am on it20:36
tadzikso still an overall win :P20:36
r0kk3rztadzik: give the devs a chance :P20:37
tadzikr0kk3rz: I'm patient :)20:37
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chris__Sail0r ?20:42
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Sail0ryep?20:42
Sail0ri put in the server field https://owncloud.org:port20:42
Sail0rand in the path /owncloud/remote.php/caldav/calendars/<user>/defaultcalender20:42
Sail0rthe / before owncloud is important20:43
Sail0rotherwise it did not work20:43
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ballockWhat's the version of btrfs-progs on the new update?20:45
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tevebtrfs-progs-0.20rc1+git358.4-1.1.2.armv7hl20:47
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chris__ok now it works, thanks :) .... i wrote defaultcalender , but right is defaultcalendar20:47
VDVsxowncloud does not work properly yet, but some community member contributed couple of fixes that make it work very well(his own testing), they will be integrate in next releases20:47
chris__E=A20:47
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pawky|2E=MC²20:48
chris__no E=Beer²20:50
chris__this is exactly what einstein will tell us :D20:51
chris__cool, owncloud/calendar sync over Accounts works now!20:52
chris__no waiting half hpur to see if its work D.20:52
chris__:D20:52
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pawky|2kontio: removing account, reboot ing and put it back didn't do much..20:53
just4info__quick question: i'm currently checking out the phone and realized that there is only a limited ammount of covers, why is that the case? is it due to a lack of cover-developers or are there any hardware issues?20:54
pawky|2just4info__: no.. there are endless amounts of covers, if you own a 3d printer and download the cover specs :-P20:54
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just4info__pawky|2, i'm refering to "the other halve" (or however it's called) = functional covers20:55
pawky|2I'm no expert, but I'll guess the demand isn't big enough...20:55
pawky|2I cannot really see the point with it...20:56
tadziklittle supply, little demand20:56
pawky|2again not being an expert, but if you have a NFC chip hanging around all the time, it will probably steal som juice from your battery, for nothing...20:57
just4info__the covers currently offered by jolla seem to use NFC only, and are avoiding i2c, that's what gets me thinking20:57
pawky|2tadzik: no.. the supply is there, you can buy different covers, but as the demand is probably not huge.. they aren't prio one..20:57
kimmolinothing wrong with i2c20:58
r0kk3rzyeah the hardware is fine20:58
pawky|2just4info__: yeah, it would be cool if people would start offering hardware using it.. like a keyboard :-)20:58
pawky|2my idea is to 3d print a back plate for the Sony DSC-QX10 :-)20:58
pawky|2that would be cool.... then you could just quickly mount a great camera when need be20:59
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r0kk3rzsony e-mount lense toh21:00
just4info__alright, thanks. follow up question: could i start selling covers right away or do i have to get a special licence in order to do that?21:00
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pawky|2Not being a programmer i have looked into the app part though... and that got me stuck... there is an android app for it, but it uses Multicast and SPP to initiate a wireless connection and that doesn't work on jolla21:00
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pawky|2just4info__: to my knowledge you do not, as you can download the specs if you want21:01
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pawky|2they released the specs quite a while ago...21:01
* just4info__ is a programmer and wondering if he should give it a shot21:01
kimmolijust4info__: terms are in sdk. but contact jolla to make sure.21:01
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just4info__alright, thanks21:02
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just4info__the android-app compatibility is fine right?21:02
pawky|2just4info__: yes, for most stuf :-)21:02
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r0kk3rzyeah works for most things, may be some that dont21:02
pawky|2it depends a bit21:02
r0kk3rzbut generally its awesome21:02
pawky|2yeah...like of some stupid reason the android cannoti listen to multicast whilst jolla has no trouble with it..21:03
pawky|2Jupp, awesome21:03
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just4info__how does the phone handle android app requests? Like the gps data, can it be emulated?21:03
pawky|2I believe an android app cannot reach all hardware, such as the accelerometers,21:04
pawky|2GPS works fine21:04
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pawky|2I believe compas doesnt at the moment..21:04
pawky|2so google-sky is out of the question ;-)21:04
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just4info__well the question is: can i disable the GPS for certain apps?21:04
pawky|2but google maps, or here maps is fine..21:04
pawky|2phone apps as well21:04
pawky|2just4info__: uh.. hmm..21:05
r0kk3rzno you cant, not yet anyway21:05
pawky|2just4info__: how wo you mean? you can simply disable the GPS21:05
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r0kk3rzbut the status icon is very clear when an app is using it21:05
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pawky|2I wonder if one could fiddle and get XPrivacy into the alien dalvik....?21:06
pawky|2that would be cool...21:06
just4info__i hate the idea that some apps require your location though there is obviously no sane reason why they need it, means i don't want to grant them acess to it21:06
pawky|2I am amazed nobody built a native firewall app gui yet..21:06
pawky|2just4info__: you need XPrivacy for that...21:07
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just4info__pawky|2, never used android, means i wasn't realy aware that this tool exists :)21:08
pawky|2:-)21:08
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pawky|2I use it on my tablet, Droidwall + XPrivacy... really neat21:08
just4info__but yey, xPrivacy probably doesn't run on SailfishOS right?21:09
pawky|2I believe one could proably get it into the alien dalvik as well... somehow21:09
r0kk3rzyeah i have no idea whether jolla are planning on adding it in, but its been mentioned on tjc21:09
pawky|2just4info__: no.. but android ... java21:09
r0kk3rzsince the apps are already running in a vm, you should be able to cleanly seperate them from the rest of the phone21:09
pawky|2r0kk3rz: well any progammer could write it... if I knew how to I would...21:09
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r0kk3rzit would work better being outside of dalvik though21:10
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just4info__pawky|2, might be java, but it will probably rely on an Android library, that's where porting the stuff gets tricky =)21:10
pawky|2r0kk3rz: well as I understand it, it simply extends the core stuff to give you the opportinity to interveen..21:10
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r0kk3rzthen you can feed apps dummy info, so they dont break when they dont get what they want21:11
pawky|2just4info__: you can have a look at the guys code on github as far as I know21:11
pawky|2r0kk3rz: thats what XPrivacy already does..21:11
pawky|2I believe it might not be to much hazzle to implement it..21:12
just4info__pawky|2, go for it =P21:12
pawky|2I wish21:12
r0kk3rzi might take a look into it21:13
pawky|2First, i need to get my jolla upp and running though..21:13
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just4info__r0kk3rz, would be cool, thanks in advance heh21:13
pawky|2just4info__: have you found the speks?21:14
pawky|2specs21:14
r0kk3rzits something I want too21:14
pawky|2just4info__: http://jolla.com/the-other-half-developer-kit21:15
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pawky|2r0kk3rz: how much could I bribe you to help me out with getting a native Sony API softy for my DSC-QX10 ? :-)21:16
just4info__pawky|2, thanks, looks good21:16
r0kk3rzwhat does the api do?21:17
pawky|2The camera is really cool... you speak HTTP and it gives JSON stuff back...21:18
r0kk3rznot sure my sony camera does any fancy api things21:18
pawky|2does it have wifi? :-)21:18
r0kk3rzi dont think so21:18
r0kk3rzis an alpha n521:18
pawky|2I have written stuff in perl for it... and it runs under Jolla... :-)21:18
just4info__a camera with wifi? O.o21:18
_cvp_ok Update 9 with QT5.2 is here... someone test Callrecorder ? :D21:19
pawky|2but... i believe doiing shell commands when being out on the field might be a bit to hard to ask.21:19
r0kk3rzperl scripts, interesting21:20
just4info__just a shame that the phone is that big =/21:20
r0kk3rzthat big as in small or that big as in big?21:21
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pawky|2i mean, its smaller than most, bigger than others...21:21
pawky|2it works... kind of... perfekt21:21
r0kk3rzi find the size fine21:21
just4info__r0kk3rz, big as in big, i didn't want to go higher than 4"21:21
r0kk3rzbigger screen than my last phone which is nice, but not phablety21:22
pawky|2lots of jokes can be made upon that one... ;-)21:22
pawky|2I liked the N9 screen though21:22
just4info__pawky|2, nope, i never used apple ;-)21:22
just4info__how long does the phone's battery last?21:23
MSameerTMavica: Morpog_PC thank coderus for the nagging :p  http://foolab.org/files/harbour-cameraplus-0.0.29+master.20140824150346.1.g4f33d5e-10.1.1.jolla.armv7hl.rpm21:23
pawky|2just4info__: I believe that link also gives you ideas about licenses etc...21:23
MSameerand I'd appreciate if someone can update the TMO  thread too21:23
just4info__pawky|2, yep, i read through it, thanks again, looks fine21:23
r0kk3rzif im smashing it then it lasts about a day, if not then 2 days21:23
Morpog_Jollahmmm, no sluggishness yet Stskeeps21:23
Morpog_Jollait works great21:24
MSameerand WTF! it doesn't launch when launched from home screen :@21:24
MirvI did hit more than usual sluggishness in low memory situation (as expected)21:24
just4info__r0kk3rz, alright, sounds fine, thanks :)21:24
Morpog_Jollaoom killer for android apps also seems to work well21:24
MSameerqt5.2 js engine eats more memory21:26
csslayeranyone has the problem that android app will make volume to 100% after 1.10.38 update?21:26
r0kk3rzpawky|2: got your perl scripts for the camera somewhere?21:27
pawky|2r0kk3rz: yes :-)21:28
Morpog_JollaMSameer: launches here but black viewfinder21:28
M4rtinKit's nice and smooth now when Tracker did its thing :)21:28
pawky|2r0kk3rz: its just proof of concept files..21:28
pawky|2they can take pictures :-)21:28
r0kk3rzyeah thats fine, if it was written in python or cpp then it would be easy21:29
pawky|2and give you a live stream21:29
MSameerMorpog_Jolla: reboot maybe (if you launched it before and it crashed then the whole camera subsystem gets busted)21:29
M4rtinKMSameer: interesting, I would expect V4 to use less when it got rid of all those type conversions needed for V821:29
pawky|2r0kk3rz: hold.. ill give you a hint :-)21:29
Morpog_Jollai didn' launch it before21:29
MSameerM4rtinK: the memory manager for V4 is quite primitive compared to V821:29
FireFlyHow come the CalDAV account thing requires username/password? I was under impression CalDAV ~ iCal/vCal support... all I have is a URL pointing to iCal data that I want periodically polled21:29
MSameerM4rtinK: and it has issues with garbage collection21:29
M4rtinKMSameer: ouch :P21:30
FireFlyunder the impression*21:31
MSameerV4 is quite young21:31
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_cvp_Dalvic Stop not working... it hangs21:32
just4info__thanks again to everyone, sounds like this is pretty much the smartphone i'm looking for :)21:32
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M4rtinKon the other hand apps seem to use less ram overall21:33
Shinryuuuitukka seems to work just fine21:33
M4rtinKat least that is my impression from watching top21:33
ShinryuuI wonder if this phone is ever going to have "3G only, 4G only" etc. modes available21:34
ZotanHas anyone managed to caldav to work with owncloud 721:34
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_cvp_Zotan yes21:36
_cvp_https://server.com:PORT and path: /owncloud/remote.php/caldav/calendars/<user>/defaultcalendar21:37
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Zotan_cvp_: I can't get anything other than Ooops failed to create account21:37
ZotanYou have to include the port, that's bonkers21:37
Morpog_JollaMSameer: still black viewfinder after reboot21:38
_cvp_yes, because my server is @home :)21:38
Zotan_cvp_: does syncing work well?21:38
_cvp_it have sync21:39
_cvp_only contacts seems not working21:39
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_cvp_i try to add a ne account for contacts ... but not working21:39
Zotan_cvp_: That's worked for me, thanks.21:42
ZotanI wasn't expecting carddav to work, maybe with update 1021:43
ZotanI'm always optimistic21:43
just4info__uhm, what can't by synced with owncloud yet?21:44
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_cvp_Zotan ... new added calendar on jolla cant sync with owncloud... because i cant choose the calendar... but if i add one directly over owncloud, this will sync it21:46
_cvp_ahhh ok , i know why... after it saved, you cant change the calendar... you have choose before you save if...21:46
MSameerMorpog_Jolla: I am building a new rpm21:47
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MSameerMorpog_Jolla: http://foolab.org/files/harbour-cameraplus-0.0.29+master.20140824150346.1.g4f33d5e-10.1.2.jolla.armv7hl.rpm21:50
Zotan_cvp_: Sync is still broken, I've just created an event on my Jolla and an event on my desktop and niether have been synced21:51
_cvp_Zotan you choose the right calendar beforce you save on jolla phone ?21:52
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Morpog_JollaMSameer: works!21:52
_cvp_i try 1 minit before andit works well...21:52
MSameerMorpog_Jolla: enjoy :)21:52
MSameercoderus: http://foolab.org/files/harbour-cameraplus-0.0.29+master.20140824150346.1.g4f33d5e-10.1.2.jolla.armv7hl.rpm21:52
Morpog_Jollathx21:52
ZotanI only have one calendar on my owncloud server21:52
_cvp_me too... but i mean if you create a new termin on jolla phone21:53
ZotanAh, sorry, user stupidity21:53
_cvp_termin = date21:53
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_cvp_is this now working correctly on 1.1.0.38 ? https://github.com/dpurgin/harbour-callrecorder21:54
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Morpog_Jollatry it abd tell us21:56
Morpog_Jollaand21:56
_cvp_there is no installer :(21:56
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_cvp_no rpm file21:56
Zotan_cvp_: syncing from Jolla to server is working :-) server to Jolla is not :-(  The test new appointment has not come down21:56
_cvp_from server to jolla works and same from jolla to server21:58
_cvp_owncloud 7.o is running21:58
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_cvp_hmm no calendar info in event view :(22:03
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coderusMSameer: thanks!22:09
MSameercoderus: please update the thread as I am busy22:09
Zotan_cvp_: I'm running 7.0.2 and server to Jolla sync is not happening22:09
coderusMSameer: i can ask BasilSemuonov to upload new rpm to openrepos for you :)22:09
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_cvp_i check again... i have ownCloud 7.0.2 (stable)22:10
MSameercoderus: I don't really consider that a release to update it22:10
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coderusok, so just a forum?22:11
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Zotan_cvp_: There's nothing in the owncloud error log, no idea what the problem is :-(22:13
ottuloyay, I've properly managed to mess up my phone :)22:13
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ottulono data lost as far as I can tell, though, so it's not THAT bad...22:14
ottuloI'm just missing all icons :D22:14
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_cvp_zotan, sry i downt know whats problem... maybe kill owncloud and start again22:17
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_cvp_or restart your server22:17
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_cvp_time to sleep... cya22:20
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Zotan_cvp_: Thanks!22:21
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tadzikargh. Is there a way to have a sound for battery running out but not for "congratulations for unlocking your screen"?23:24
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tadzikI'm okay with removing audio files from the rootfs if necessary23:24
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