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tbrgood moaning06:00
Stskeepsgood morning tbr06:00
tbrmoo Stskeeps, how's the universe and everything?06:01
Stskeepskid decided 5am was a fine time to wake up on a sunday06:02
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Stskeepsi'm learning more about linux virtual memory than i ever wanted to06:02
tbrheh06:02
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tbradded fun due to DST change06:03
Stskeepsyess06:03
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pp_haha, 6am here :-)06:15
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ztanehmm how did the dst change go, my wife whom I gave my jolla yesterday said the time was 1 hour too early...06:36
ztanethat is went from UTC+3 straight to UTC+1 :?06:37
ztaneauto time updates were on...06:38
tbrlooks fine here. let me check the other jolla06:42
tbrhmm, the other one was still stuck on german time zone, but correctly went from +2 to +1 (it doesn't have a SIM, so won't pick up the network time offset to adjust itself after I cambe back from ELCE)06:44
Stskeepsand double checking, are you in ukraine?06:49
Stskeeps:P06:49
Stskeepsand u8 or u006:49
Stskeepsu906:49
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TMavicacoderus: ping06:57
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flapjackTo whomever admins the jolla.com website: Suggestion: Enable HSTS, fix inecure page elements and get a SHA2 cert + chain. Also, using google-analytics is a bit of a faux pas for a company trying to be security concious... my two cents, enjoy your weekend07:53
Stskeepssecurity@jolla.com07:53
Stskeepsthis is a community channel07:53
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tbron a curious note: what does analytics have to do with security? privacy, yes, no questions, but security?07:54
flapjackStskeeps: I know, I sincerely hope staff follows what goes on in here. That's kinda the point07:55
Stskeepswe do, but it's going to be tracked properly when it goes to security@ - irc isn't a bugtracker :)07:56
tbryour point is to throw something into a random place instead using a proper channel?07:56
flapjacktbr: Yes, absolutely. My general experience that if you contact any company with suggestions like this, they will always ignore you. If you put it to the community, more people will take notice. Simple07:58
* tbr laughs07:58
Stskeepswell, we're a bit different in that regard..07:58
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Stskeepsi think there's a high rate of responses to security@, despite many of them being in finnish..07:58
flapjackBesides, always useful to see how active IRC is before buying any product, so far so good07:58
flapjackStskeeps: I get that impression, yes. No offence intended07:59
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Nicd-Jolla Harbour died10:00
Nicd-getting 502 bad gateway10:00
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Nicd-and fixed10:01
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kimmoliit has some sporadic hickups like that ..10:01
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coderusNicd-: pushing sailtime update? :)10:04
Nicd-coderus: already pushed yesterday10:04
TMavicacoderus: i sent you log about wrong code in mitakuuluu10:05
coderusTMavica: i dont care, ok?10:05
TMavica...10:05
coderusNicd-: ok, good :)10:05
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kimmoli"is it published yet?" ... there should be some push-notification integration (or at least email)10:06
Nicd-yeah10:08
kimmolior something like mer-boss.. would not need to keep refreshing store either10:09
Nicd-don't think they'll publish it over the weekend though10:09
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TMavicacoderus: finally solved by enter the URL received in SMS. v.whatsapp.com/xxxxx/ then enter the code again10:23
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AJAX555umm, so I cana buy TOH with this jolla voucher?10:24
AJAX555-a10:24
Shinryuuno, you give someone a -100€ redeem code if he buys a phone and you'll get a aloe case for free if the code is used10:25
AJAX555ah apparenty no10:25
AJAX555damn all these typos today10:25
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AJAX555sadly I already have aloe TOH10:26
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ShinryuuI have this poppy red one10:26
Shinryuuwish someone wants to use my redeem code.. I tried to ask several friends and family but no success yet10:28
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AJAX555I wonder when we'll get more TOHs.. d;10:33
coderusTMavica: you received an url in sms? o_O10:34
TMavicayes10:34
coderusTMavica: wow10:34
TMavicait not happen before10:34
TMavicamy fd same10:34
coderusTMavica: yeah10:35
TMavicawe both reset10:35
TMavicaand need install all thing10:35
coderusthats pretty interesting10:35
TMavicafirst time register in mitakuuluu, it do all in auto, but it said invalid code10:35
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TMavicathat sms include a URL to tell me verify my device, and i entered and that site said verified10:36
nomeataStupid question, but what is the equivalent of "apt-get install less" on a jolla?10:36
TMavicai enter that code in mitakuuluu again, then success10:36
Morpog_PCpkcon install less10:37
Morpog_PCas root10:37
Morpog_PCpkcon refresh10:37
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Morpog_PCnot sure if you need to install another repo first10:37
Morpog_PCnomeata,10:37
nomeatathx10:38
Morpog_PCerr not install, enable/add10:38
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nomeataseems like it is not available by default10:40
Stskeepsit's in mer-tools10:40
stephgis in mer-tools I think10:40
Raimnomeata: less is in the mer-tools repository, you can add that with 'ssu ar mer-tools; ssu ur'10:40
Stskeepsssu ar mer-tools10:40
nomeatahmmm, that did’t cut it. I added the repo, ran pkcon refresh, but pkgcon instal less still does not find it10:43
Stskeepsssu ar mer-tools; pkcon refresh; pkcon install less10:44
nomeatathat’s what I did10:44
Stskeepsshoould work10:45
stephgssu ur10:45
stephgafter ar10:46
nomeataalso did that10:46
nomeata(but that went very fast and did not print any output – normal?)10:46
stephgur is quick yeah10:46
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nomeataah, pkconf refresh force helped10:49
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Yanielpkcon*11:00
Yanielfrom PackageKit CONsole11:00
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Sailor8545Hi all, text prediction in Sailfish keyboard, what kind of word dictionary was used for it? Are there freely available dictionaries available to use for keyboard software development?11:31
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stephghi Sailor8545 the prediction is an implimentation of xt911:52
stephgso it's closed :(11:52
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stephgthat said there have been folks in the community tinkering with the keyboards (and there's at least one swype-like implimentation in development in the community)11:52
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Cazouhey, do you know how I can get an output from the booting kernel ?13:52
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Cazoualso, would it be a good idea to use a kernel compiled for a samsung galaxy s4 mini (which has a Qualcomm MSM8930 SoC)13:55
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tobiskiHi. I tried to use the 100e coupon code sent by email but it says "Coupon code is invalid". Has this been common problem or should I be in contact with care@jolla.com?13:58
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attahtobiski: your own code on your own account? I got the impression that they were intended for sharing with friends.. so they *might* be limited for use on other accounts.14:04
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tobiskiOh nvm, the coupon code is supposed to be used only when buying the phone...14:05
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attahthat too..14:05
tobiskiattah: no it's not limited to friends only, but to phone only14:05
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attahtobiski: could be good to know, thanks :)14:07
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Shinryuu_I can't get anyone to use my code from my friends, family etc. lol14:10
attah#hipsterproblems14:10
Shinryuu_^14:10
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rangoyothers than me that has problems with connectivity after the latest optin update? my wife has tried to call me several times without getting through14:15
Yanielwlan and sms have been working just fine14:16
ottulonenrangoy: did you install the hotfix?14:16
Yanielhaven't used the rest yet14:16
CazouI tried booting the recovery partition through fastboot but it did not boot and the device restarted14:16
rangoyottulonen: yes happened both before and after14:21
rangoythe reception is not very great here, but I think it was within range. i might have to test a bit more14:22
ottulonenall right, I don't know more about it but thought it14:23
ottulonenthought it worth cheking14:23
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rangoyottulonen: ok..  thanks. i'll test a bit more later and analyze the logs if it happens again14:24
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CazouHey, does Jolla plan on releasing an android image for their device ?15:27
Yanielwhy would they do that?15:31
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Stskeepsno15:31
Stskeepsreasons such as certification15:31
Stskeepsif you want to and beat really hard at it, it should be possible though15:31
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pawky|2what on earth is Oauth2 applications and its tokens and keys?16:13
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rangoypawky|2: what do you know and what do you want to know? Do you know that it is an protocol for autorizing users? used for eg. loging in to service X with eg. an facebook ID16:23
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pawky|2rangoy: Well.. I was looking into my jolla account and saw this menu item... just wandered what it is used for, as I can see it...16:25
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rangoypawky|2: https://together.jolla.com/question/19640/what-is-the-oauth2-applications-site-on-jolla-web-account-for-and-how-does-it-work/ see the comment comment from adams16:35
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pawky|2has anyone else here tampered with the data location of the android to make it use the SD card instead? :-)17:03
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pawky|2for those who have, I am wondering over this line in the androidsdcard.service : After=local-fs.target mount-sd@mmcblk1.service17:12
pawky|2doesn't that line stat I should also find a file mountsd@mmcblk1.service under /etc/systemd/system ?17:13
pawky|2I only see mount-sd@.service there...17:13
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pawky|2(as of writing I don't have much of a clue regarding that systemd stuff....)17:17
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pawky|2ok.. i get it, i will  have to learn systemd...  :-(17:20
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pawky|2Can any one telle me why this guide https://together.jolla.com/question/40802/how-to-format-your-usd-card-to-btrfs-and-share-space-with-android/ will make a phone boot loop?17:36
pawky|2I mean, yes you are fiddling with the alien dalvik data directories, but thats about it...17:36
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pawky|2when enabling a systemd service it does someting like this ln -s '/etc/systemd/system/androidsdcard.service' '/etc/systemd/system/aliendalvik.service.wants/androidsdcard.service'17:51
pawky|2well.. now when things got sour and boot looping I presume I need to get rid of that symlink... but when booting up in rescue mode and mounting mmcblk0p28 i cannot find /etc/systemd/system/local-fs.target :-(17:53
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pawky|2(after chrooting)17:53
pawky|2can anybody explain what is needet to get rid of my androidsdcard.service again?17:54
pawky|2does nobody know how to get rid of a service for sure in rescue mode???17:57
pawky|2I actually don't really understand what the problem was in the first place as i did a systemctl start androidsdcard.service and stop it and there was no complaints what so ever.. and it did mount my sdcard over /data/media17:58
pawky|2and unmount it when stopping it again..17:59
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TofeDoes Jolla know that the wifi tethering leaks a lot of battery, even after it has been switched off ?18:01
joonahoi:q18:02
pawky|2nobody in here wants to help me from boot loop hell?18:02
Tofe(ah, already on TJC https://together.jolla.com/question/39605/bug-wifi-hotspot-doesnt-turn-off-when-closing-it-battery-drains/  )18:03
Tofepawky|2: getting rid of a service is a systemctl mask <service> if that can help18:05
pawky|2Tofe: interesting... but am I right that cannot be achieved in rescue mode?18:05
TofeI don't know :) I've never used the rescue mode myself, so I don't know what the exact environment is18:06
StskeepsTofe: yes18:06
Stskeepsit's a @$@$@$ of a bug18:06
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Stskeepsturns out android will rmmod a wlan module and insmod it18:06
pawky|2Stskeeps: whas that an anser to me?18:06
pawky|2ohh..18:06
TofeStskeeps: ah, sweet android. Ok, well, looks like you know about it ;)18:07
Yanielwhat the actual fsck? :D18:07
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pawky|2Stskeeps: hey... you are usually good at hard core stuff.. don't you have any suggestions to throw my way? :-)18:08
Stskeepsnot atm18:08
Tofepawky|2: if systemctl is disabled somehow in rescue mode, it would sound strange to me. What's the point of a rescue mode where you can't modify the system you're trying to rescue ?18:08
pawky|2Tofe: true...18:09
Tofepawky|2: however, the mask thing can be done easily by hand too18:09
pawky|2but why can I not find what systemctl did earlies ln -s '/etc/systemd/system/androidsdcard.service' '/etc/systemd/system/local-fs.target.wants/androidsdcard.service'18:09
pawky|2i cannot find /etc/systemd/system/local-fstarget.wants which I assume is the one I need to remove somehow to not boot loop18:10
pawky|2there is no local-fstarget.wants :-(18:11
pawky|2Tofe: ^^18:11
Tofeso there is no androidsdcard.service file at all, in the end ?18:12
pawky|2Tofe: it was there.. but I am now trying to remove it all due to boot looping18:12
pawky|2i had it under /etc/systemd/system/18:12
Tofelet me see how it looks like on my jolla (it's still in 1.0.8.x, though)18:12
pawky|2Tofe: mine as well18:13
pawky|21.0.8.2118:13
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locusfI'm getting ghost missed calls again18:20
pawky|2locusf: well.. its halloween soon.... ;-)18:20
locusfpawky|2: lol :)18:20
locusfthis happens in notifications only, no missed calls in the dialer18:21
Tofepawky|2: I really don't know where you androidsdcard service come from18:22
TofeI don't have it on my system18:22
pawky|2Tofe: well.. I made that one..18:22
Tofeoh, ok :)18:22
pawky|2Tofe: I am following the guide to make android use the sdcard instead18:23
Tofeah ok, didn't read all the backlog, sorry18:23
pawky|2and after followint the guide the phone starts boot looping.. last time i solved it with dd an image back upon mmcblk0p2818:23
pawky|2this time however I thought of getting to the bottom of the problem,as if looking upon what one is doing, there cannot be to much that can go wrong doing so...18:24
Tofelooks like systemctl didn't create the .wants directory by mistake18:25
pawky|2The only thing done here is coping the android /data/media directory to th sd card and do an (overload?) mount of the ordinary /data/media /to the sdcard18:26
pawky|2Tofe: while waiting for your results.. i just did the systemctl start androidsdcard.service again and I noticed that one creates the local-fs directory18:26
Tofewell, even a systemctl enable should create it, iirc18:27
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pawky|2Tofe: so the question is.. what will be the cleanup procedure of : https://together.jolla.com/question/40802/how-to-format-your-usd-card-to-btrfs-and-share-space-with-android/18:28
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Tofesystemctl disable androidsdcard.service should do it18:29
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pawky|2Tofe: as I thought.. but no18:30
Stskeepsjust doing some winter cleaning of the bans18:30
Tofe:)18:30
Tofepawky|2: ah, yes, there's all the mess with the partition mounts18:30
pawky|2but the androidsdcard.service worked nicely when testing it, before rebooting..18:31
pawky|2so what on earth is making it boot loop???18:31
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Tofeby boot loop, you mean reboot, not systemd dependancy loop, right?18:32
Stskeepschances are your mmc didn't appear yet to the system by the time it was needed.18:33
Tofebut it's supposed to be set after local-fs, and (I guess) that one needs mmc18:34
pawky|2Tofe: booting, starting over again booting etc..18:36
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pawky|2Stskeeps: fair enough, so whats the recipe to fix this?18:37
Stskeepsdependencies.18:38
pawky|2Stskeeps: I am aaaaall ears18:38
pawky|2Stskeeps: but don't you agree, if simply removing my androidsdcard.service it should all come up normally, but this it doesn't :-(18:39
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Stskeepsnow it's doctor who time, but dev-mmcblk1p1.service ish may help..18:39
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pawky|2Stskeeps: damn doctor who....18:40
pawky|2;-)18:40
Tofepawky|2: maybe you new sdcard partionning conflicts with what the mount service is used to see18:40
pawky|2Tofe: Its partitioned btrfs...18:41
TofeStskeeps: you waited till sunday evening ! I couldn't.18:41
pawky|2but /dev/mmcblkp1p118:41
pawky|2Tofe: so.. what is it used to see? I thgouth it was btrfs18:42
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pawky|2if dd'ing a mmcblk0p28 image over the current one fixes the issue somehow, its all about some config file or simillar doing something bad, and one should be able to fix it a bit quicker than doing so...18:43
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Tofeapart from disabling and removing the systemd service, I don't see the difference, I agree18:45
pawky|2Tofe: so, figuring this one out could be a major breakthrough to them who wants to use the sd card :-)18:47
TofeThe .wants directories  (local-fs and aliendalvik)must be checked for any remaining unwanted link18:47
pawky|2Tofe: could you check if your /etc/systemd/system has aliendalvik.service ?18:48
Tofeno alien in /etc, no18:48
StskeepsTofe: only because i forgot it was sunday due to getting up at 5am due to a very awake child..18:48
Tofeno local-fs either18:48
pawky|2Tofe: local-fs seems to get created when enabling the androidsdcard.service18:49
pawky|2but shouldnt the aliendalvik service be there? hmmm.18:49
pawky|2my assumption is if you do: systemctl stop aliendalvik.service   then there should be a file called aliendalvik.service right?18:50
Tofepawky|2: well, aliendalvik.target.wants should be created I guess18:50
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Tofepawky|2: yes, it is in /lib18:50
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pawky|2Tofe: ok...?  what on earth is it doing there?18:50
TofeStskeeps: I see you didn't enjoy the additional hour of the week-end so much :)18:51
Tofepawky|2: no idea. I don't see what could have created it.18:51
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Tofepawky|2: ah wait, I misunderstood you18:52
Tofepawky|2: it is in /lib because it is part of the low level systemd config18:53
pawky|2Tofe: ok.. maybe now we are getting somewhere...18:53
pawky|2and where is this low level mumbo jumbo configured?18:53
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Tofeit is all in /lib/systemd/system, like on todays distros18:54
Tofebut modifying that doesn't look like a good idea :)18:54
pawky|2Tofe: well you know, i am still a /etc/init.d/ guy.. ;-)18:54
Tofepawky|2: systemd read what is in /lib, overloads it with what is in /etc18:55
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pawky|2Tofe: well... but what on earth could make things go heavily wrong if following the instructions on how to move android data to the sd card.. that even when undoing these things it doesnt work???18:56
pawky|2Tofe: hmm..18:56
Tofepawky|2: but you never modified /lib18:56
pawky|2Tofe: no.. have a quick look on that page i linked..18:56
TofeI did18:56
pawky|2except for me having my partition as /dev/mmcblk1p1 i did the rest..18:56
pawky|2this is actually the second time I am on it as I really would like this to work.. :-)18:57
Tofeyep, sure18:57
pawky|2last time i got back to scratch by dd ing an image over mmcblk0p2818:57
pawky|2but I think that must be very un necessary if I only could figure out what is going wrong..18:57
TofeI think you still have some spurious link in /etc18:57
pawky|2Tofe: you mean /etc/systemd/system right?18:58
Toferight18:58
pawky|2hold..18:58
Tofethere shouldn't be any alien*, no local-fs* either18:58
TofeThe only .wants are basic, getty and multi-user18:59
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pawky|2Tofe: http://pastebin.com/Qa6WBhR418:59
pawky|2thats all there is now.. like before doing that androidsdcard.service19:00
Tofemine is same: http://pastebin.com/PgFfv7Vi19:00
pawky|2Tofe: so the strange behaviour is unexplainable..19:01
Tofeit boots with sdcard outside of phone ?19:01
pawky|2Tofe: don't think so.. didn't last time but havent tried now.. hold...19:01
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Tofeby the way, there is something important to look at: the journal19:02
pawky|2Tofe: continue19:02
pawky|2nope.. still boot looping..19:03
pawky|2only way to stop it is to remove battery19:03
Tofejournalctl -l -e19:03
Tofewill show you the last lines of the journal, you can scroll up with arrows19:04
pawky|2checking19:04
pawky|2in rescue mode, no journal files where found19:05
Tofeyou are as root, right ?19:05
pawky|2yes..19:05
pawky|2i am a s root in rescue with a chroot19:05
Tofeah. curious. mmh.19:05
pawky|2lol19:05
locusfjournalctl -b -1 -l -e19:05
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pawky|2i believe you don't have journal working in rescue19:06
pawky|2Failed to look up boot -1: Cannot assign requested address19:06
locusfok19:07
pawky|2I am really curious having a look at the log of this looping, what on earth is it doing?19:07
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Tofebut you do have the journal in /var/log, right ?19:08
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pawky|2Tofe: yes... i think so, normally19:10
pawky|2Tofe: but /var/log/journal is empty19:11
Tofeyes, mine too19:11
pawky|2its because, as I have heard, it is only stored in RAM  duh..19:11
pawky|2or tmpfs i presume19:12
Tofevery possible, but such device.19:12
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Tofefor*19:12
pawky|2some gave me a thought to get it to write to the sd card but that must be quite a hazzle..19:12
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pawky|2well.. they  could just have rotating logs..19:13
Tofelook at etc/systemd/journald.conf19:13
Tofefile setting: Store=Volatile19:14
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tbryou can turn on persistent log, but it's off by default19:14
pawky|2change it to persistent?19:15
pawky|2Store=persistent19:15
Tofeor "auto", as the temporary already exists19:15
Tofethe directory19:15
Tofe(needs more coffee)19:15
pawky|2so...19:15
pawky|2Store=auto ?19:15
Tofeyep19:15
pawky|2boot loop here we come!19:16
Tofe:)19:16
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Tofeit was "Storage", not "Store", by the way, but I guess you understood that19:18
TofeMy typo rate goes through the roof...19:18
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pawky|2Tofe: cool, i figured that one out.. but doing the journalctl -l -e still give nothing19:18
pawky|2i did Storage=auto19:19
pawky|2whatever that would mean19:19
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Tofelet's try persistent then19:19
pawky|2:-)19:19
Tofe( http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/journald.conf.html )19:19
pawky|2go go gadget...19:20
pawky|2nope...19:22
pawky|2as empty as my solution to this mess...19:22
Tofewell, I begin to be out of ideas here19:23
pawky|2Tofe: I assume, it hasnt even mounted the /dev/mmcblkp028 when it loops19:23
Tofemaybe, but journald can fallback to /run/log/journald if needed19:23
pawky|2Tofe: me to... but i tink its just such an easy fix once one could figure out what could mess things up whilst only doing the tiny changes for android... I believe the answer is so near, but still so far19:23
Tofeexactly19:24
pawky|2Tofe: one hs to bear in mind, as its looping and the only way to stop it is to pull the battery, i am not fully sure what the unit does when doing so... like clearing last logs..19:24
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pawky|2my philosophical thought about this is what wants me to pursue. Finding it would be a break through... at least to me ;-)19:25
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Tofeif there is a dependancy loop, it could well be that systemd reboots without even trying19:26
Tofeif it's something else, well... I don't really know :p19:26
pawky|2Tofe: could that lib systemd have anything to do with it somehow?19:27
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TofeI don't see how... there was no modification done to it...19:28
pawky|2True...19:28
pawky|2but what else could there be?...19:28
pawky|2i mean, once one removes that androidsdcard.service it stops overloading the /data/media and the original files will be found... so it should just boot happily19:29
TofeI do agree :)19:32
pawky|2Tofe: thus... i am stuck...19:33
pawky|2probably having to do another dd for nothing...19:33
Tofeprobably19:33
pawky|2unless you have more ideas :-)19:33
pawky|2or anyone else in here...19:33
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Tofenope, sorry19:35
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pawky|2cant one debug through the usb port?19:35
pawky|2Tofe: Thanks for all help so far :-)19:38
Stskeepshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wpv-Qb-dB6g - Plover: Thought to Text at 240 WPM19:41
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pawky|2The interesing thing is that even taking a snapshot of factory and making it root it still will boot loop19:53
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pawky|2Stskeeps: do you have any ideas where I can go further in my search to get my phone to boot again?19:57
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pawky|2gosh, this is a very silent night att jollamobile... :-(20:02
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r0kk3rzi never really seem to need more typing speed when programming though20:13
r0kk3rzeverything else takes longer20:13
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pawky|2i agree20:19
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pawky|2a bit sad nobody is here tonight who could help me debug what happens once one changes androids /data/media to the sdcard and why you end up into a boot loop...  I believe I will have to just wipe the partition again without ever getting the answer :-(20:24
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Stskeepskimmoli: http://erkutlu.blogspot.com/2012/12/eeg-and-arduino-do-it-yourself-eeg-ekg.html - if you ever were looking for crazy new TOH ideas..20:33
kimmoli:)20:34
Stskeepsemg looks like a fun addition for sure20:34
kimmolii did like this too http://nl.mouser.com/new/ams/ams-AS3935/20:35
kimmoliöm, BASIC code there?20:36
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Stskeepspeople do all sorts of crazy stuff in medical.:20:36
Stskeeps:P20:36
Stskeepsas3935.. so like http://www.blitzortung.org/Webpages/index.php?lang=en ?20:37
kimmolino so sophisticated. just notification "Thunder closing, <10km"20:38
kimmoli"Lightning detected !!"20:38
Stskeepshehe20:38
kimmoliand that needs its own notification sound-effect20:40
Venemohow about a nuclear power TOH?20:45
Stskeepshttps://backyardbrains.com/products/emgSpikerboxBundle - hmm20:46
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r0kk3rzfusionTOH20:55
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pawky|2is there a point making the backiup when upgrading to 9, as to my knowledge downgrading wont work anyway?20:57
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_cvp_Hi :D20:58
pawky|2hwdy20:58
rangoyr0kk3rz: how about a tardis TOH?20:58
r0kk3rzthat would be cool20:58
r0kk3rzbut doesnt need to be a TOH20:59
pawky|2anyone having a comment to MY question?20:59
r0kk3rza tardis anything would be cool20:59
pawky|2tardis >/dev/null done20:59
pawky|2but seriously, is there a point?20:59
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r0kk3rztheres always a point to making a backup21:00
r0kk3rzeven without a defined recovery process21:00
pawky|2is the upgrade doing anything more beyond modifying mmcblk0p28? so, if dd'ing back my current image i will actually be able to downgrade?21:00
rangoypawky|2: you can always recover some files etc from the backup21:01
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rangoyand i'll guess there is always an way back also, even if it's bumpy21:01
pawky|2rangoy: then why are they telling us there is no going back after upgrading?21:01
pawky|2I mean, I have an image of mmcblk0p28... I assume that will reinstate the old version if I would get bored at the new one21:02
VenemoI personally always keep backups of my important stuff21:04
Venemobut never make backup of stuff on my phone anymore21:04
Venemoall of those things are synced in from somewhere, so even if the phone dies, the data remains "in the cloud"21:04
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pawky|2duh... i would NEVER have my stuff in som obscure cloud...21:06
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pawky|2its irritating enough, Jolla saves my iMEI and E-mail...21:07
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Aciidkimmoli: have you found any webshop that sells molex slimstack connectors?21:09
Aciidkimmoli: trying to make a breakout board for nokia n97 qwerty keyboard here21:09
kimmolimouser?21:10
kimmolirs21:10
pawky|2Aciid: cant you just use bluetooth?21:10
Aciidpawky|2: https://i.imgur.com/ctKR4Cb.png obviously not21:10
AciidI need to debug the keyboards logic first21:11
pawky|2Aciid: remove cat, reboot21:11
Aciid:321:11
Aciidkimmoli: ah mouser seems to have some models21:11
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Aciidcan't find ones that have 0.1mm pitch, I think I need to do this http://www.instructables.com/id/DIY-Breakout-for-Scavenged-Surface-Mount-IC/21:17
kimmoli0.1 ? nothing has 0.1mm21:18
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Aciidkimmoli: https://i.imgur.com/6rTPc5D.png21:20
Aciidif that is not 0.1mm21:21
AciidI don't know what is21:21
pawky|2not that I know the full story, but it looks to me like a standard connector21:22
Aciidpawky|2: the prob is I'm trying to find a online seller that sells these connectors.21:23
pawky|2Aciid: aliexpress.com ?21:23
pawky|2alibabab.com ?21:23
pawky|2(alibaba.com )21:23
kimmoli:)21:23
pawky|2:-)21:23
kimmoli0.35mm is tightest that molex even makes21:23
Aciidboth only offer custom orders21:24
Aciidsince it's so uncommon21:24
kimmoliyes, that might be the case21:24
Aciidhmm, maybe I could make a eagle of this and just order a pcb with the legs21:25
Aciidso I can solder the old connector to that21:25
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kimmolimeasure distance of 11 pins (10 gaps), you get próbably more accurate results21:26
Aciidyou'r right, my wurth caliper is not fit for this21:26
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kimmolireading of those are actually kinda-good, but using it to measure something like that is not "a good fit"21:28
kimmolinon-touch measurement i mean21:28
Aciidyeah I understand what you ment, need a reference21:28
Aciidisompi mittayksikkö josta verrata21:28
kimmolior, you can measure the plastic part (which you can contact) xref to datasheet21:29
kimmolijoo21:29
Aciidbut still sucks that the connector is propertiary21:29
Aciid*custom21:29
Aciidtheres like 0 change to fix things that have these21:29
Aciid*chance21:29
Aciidwho row of connectors 0.4mm. 10 connectors, 10 pitches 40/20 = 2 / 2 = 121:30
Aciid0.1mm right?21:31
Aciidno wait, 0.4cm21:31
Aciid4mm21:31
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pawky|2changing WCNSS_qcom_cfg.ini still doesnt change the setMCBCFilter from 1 t anything else. is this ini file just for show???22:49
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