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Nicd- | anyone else have broken backspace in android apps? | 07:23 |
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Nicd- | with U9 | 07:23 |
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Nicd- | it's totally broken, like blocker-broken for me | 07:23 |
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tadzik | well, keyboard in android apps has been acting funny for me since I remember | 07:24 |
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Nicd- | it worked for me before this update | 07:24 |
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TemeV | seems to be working with 5 second test | 07:32 |
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ernesti | 07:44 < cobu> sooooo.. what was the lunch plan? | 08:52 |
ernesti | ups | 08:52 |
Jope | relevant info | 08:54 |
ernesti | totally | 08:57 |
ernesti | company secrets and stuff | 08:57 |
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inz | ernesti, did you plan to order lunch via ups, or ups yourselves to a lunch joint? | 09:00 |
ernesti | secretz | 09:00 |
ernesti | didnt know ups offered such services in hki | 09:00 |
inz | ernesti, me neither, but your lunch plan of "ups" sounded like one of those two options | 09:01 |
ernesti | :D | 09:02 |
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coderus | meecast fix, if you interested: https://github.com/Meecast/meecast/pull/12 | 09:49 |
till- | nice :) | 09:54 |
till- | is there an updated rpm already? | 09:55 |
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lainwir3d | hi | 10:49 |
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Tazy | is this the right spot for questions about the phone/sailfishos ? | 11:59 |
Stskeeps | can always try | 11:59 |
Stskeeps | this is community channe | 11:59 |
Stskeeps | l | 11:59 |
Tazy | I see, i noticed i loose ambiances after reboot if the source image is on the ext4 partitioned sdcard. common issue? | 12:01 |
meklu | I've had that happen too | 12:01 |
Stskeeps | it probably is due to the fact the system doesn't wait for the sd card to be available | 12:02 |
meklu | although I've had it happen on FAT32 and exFAT as well | 12:02 |
meklu | that seems likely | 12:02 |
meklu | I guess it'd be good if the device were to copy the image $somewhere when an ambiance is made out of it | 12:03 |
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Tazy | Oh, its a open issue.. all over together.jolla. | 12:04 |
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Tazy | Tough i haven't seen any work on encryption in general. | 12:14 |
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Kabouik | Hi there! Two unrelated questsions: (1) My Jolla now regularly lose network connexion (both phone and data) with no apparent reasons, in areas where there is good coverage. I have to reboot to make it work again. Is it a known issue? (2) Where does gPooder stores the downloaded podcasts? | 12:17 |
Kabouik | connection* | 12:17 |
Tazy | Kabouik, the store has jolla utility's now, i think you can use that to restart the network stack. ;/ (unless thats in the pre release only) | 12:18 |
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Kabouik | I'm currently downloading the pre-release anywqy so I'll try that. However, I'm still concerned by the fact that it happens regularly since 2 weeks (several times a day), and never happened before. There's something wrong. | 12:19 |
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Kabouik | It's really annoying when you expect a call or message and realize you have no network since hours | 12:21 |
coderus | Kabouik: it seems to be fixed in 1.1.0.39 | 12:22 |
Tazy | Hm.. to think if it i had today the issue that the icon for wifi was (!) not connected but i was in wifi anyway. | 12:22 |
Kabouik | Ok coderus, so it was a known issue then? We'll see how it turns out to be after the update! | 12:23 |
Kabouik | And about gPodder, anyone knows what is the default folder for saved podcasts? | 12:23 |
Kabouik | /home/nemo/gPodder contains no media file | 12:23 |
Kabouik | Found nothing in ~/Music either | 12:24 |
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Tazy | i can't figure out for the life of me what cryptsetup settings to use. i end up with this: Check that kernel supports aes-cbc-essiv:sha256 cipher | 12:30 |
ggabriel | uhm... | 12:31 |
ggabriel | i've just used default settings | 12:31 |
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Tazy | ggabriel, aes-xts-plain64 is defaults for me and that errors aswell. | 12:32 |
ggabriel | admittedly, i haven't tried it in a while | 12:32 |
Tazy | on the Jolla Phone? | 12:32 |
ggabriel | yup | 12:32 |
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kontio | Kabouik: regarding gPodder, thp should know | 12:35 |
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Nicd- | yay, sailtime uitukka fix in the store | 12:41 |
Nicd- | thanks coderus! | 12:41 |
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Kabouik | I still have the same problem with network being lost with no reason and randomly after the Sailfish pre-update. Restarting the network with Sailfish Utilities does not help | 14:27 |
Kabouik | Rebooting does, so I can't see how this could be an hardware issue | 14:27 |
ggabriel | Kabouik: it could be hw related | 14:28 |
ggabriel | did you try with another phone? | 14:28 |
ggabriel | and does the issue happen in the same area only? | 14:28 |
Kabouik | No but I have absolutely no reason to think this is related to my sim card | 14:28 |
ggabriel | no, but it could be your network | 14:29 |
Kabouik | It happens in several areas, I moved like 800 km last week and the problem happened several times a day | 14:29 |
ggabriel | ok, fair enough | 14:29 |
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Kabouik | I just rebooted, it works again. Very weird | 14:30 |
Kabouik | It also happens whetever the coverage is (2G, 3G or 4G) | 14:31 |
ggabriel | i'd speak to care if i were you | 14:31 |
ggabriel | i assume you checked tjc for your country/operator? | 14:31 |
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Kabouik | And additionally, sometime I have "phone" network, but no data network, and no way to hook it (restarting mobile network using the shortcut toggle doesn't help) | 14:31 |
Kabouik | No not yet, I first asked here this morning | 14:32 |
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ggabriel | wow, people send me mms | 14:36 |
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ggabriel | what year is this? | 14:36 |
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flux | I sent an mms a few months back with jolla | 14:41 |
flux | didn't arrive.. | 14:41 |
Aard | flux: provider? | 14:43 |
Aard | that is, country/provider? | 14:43 |
flux | from Finland/Saunalahti to Finland/DNA | 14:44 |
Aard | in case you opted in to u9, try again | 14:44 |
flux | oh, well I didn't :) | 14:44 |
Kabouik | I use mms a lot ggabriel, it's very convenient actually. Emails are most often better to send pictures, but emails are not exactly for the same purpose. | 14:45 |
Kabouik | And people won't read your email as soon as they receive it | 14:45 |
Kabouik | Plus a lot of people can't read emails or other "modern" texts on their phone, or have no data plan in their subscription | 14:45 |
Aard | short version: we had a bug in our mms-implementation (wrong encoding for one parameter) which was ignored (=handled as we wanted) by more or less every provider out there | 14:45 |
Aard | at some point after we added mms-support elisa changed something in their infrastructure, which caused our mms to be swallowed by their infrastructure | 14:46 |
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Aard | mms in general is quite a miracle that it usually does work | 14:47 |
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SK_work | just for causal discussions: did anyone tried Firefox OS, especially dev on it ? | 15:00 |
SK_work | I'm thinking of getting a matchstick | 15:00 |
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Tazy | am i doing this right? i'm getting unsupported cipher. cryptsetup -y --key-size=256 --cipher aes-cbc-essiv:sha256 -i 14200 luksFormat /dev/mmcblk1p1 | 15:03 |
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AL13N_work | Tazy: did you modprobe the needed cyphers? | 15:04 |
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Tazy | AL13N_work, no? usually they would be loaded, besides i think there supported via /proc/crypto info | 15:05 |
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coderus | Aard: same UCS2 error as in sms? | 15:32 |
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chem|st | something has blown the fuse... I lost 13% battery from 30min browsing the webs and a phonecall... wtf? | 16:01 |
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chem|st | I'd never reach 9-10h talktime... | 16:04 |
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r0kk3rz | dicky battery stats most likely | 16:20 |
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chem|st | r0kk3rz: not really, at least not in the right direction, last 2 times I checked the device was underpowered at 7% at first, the second time it started to behave underpowered at 16% | 16:31 |
r0kk3rz | keep an eye on the upower -d output, will give you more to go on than a simple percentage | 16:32 |
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r0kk3rz | sometimes the capacity calculation can wander a bit | 16:34 |
r0kk3rz | but things like draw and voltage should be fairly reliable | 16:34 |
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AL13N_work | anyone know when booting a linux, the top 2 lines before the getty, are they customizable? i'd like to put an ipv4 in there somewhere | 16:35 |
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kontio | AL13N_work: /etc/issue | 16:40 |
kontio | /etc/issue.net for telnet... | 16:41 |
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AL13N_work | kontio: no, before login | 16:46 |
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chem|st | AL13N_work: issue.net should be before login | 16:53 |
chem|st | AL13N_work: in sshd.conf you need to have "banner /path/to/banner" activated | 16:54 |
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friese | humm, tomorrow there's big news about tohkbd? | 17:16 |
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friese | maybe i'll get to place my preorder then - can't wait :) | 17:17 |
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* SK_work shut up and take my money | 17:20 | |
SK_work | and an azerty layout please (at least, azerty in ui) | 17:20 |
friese | and qwertz with some umlaute pls :) also qi charging would be nice ;) | 17:22 |
r0kk3rz | blank keyboard with water transfer pack included | 17:22 |
Jope | and why not | 17:22 |
SK_work | water transfer pack ? | 17:23 |
r0kk3rz | then everyone can have their own layout | 17:23 |
r0kk3rz | SK_work: never did anything with model planes and such? | 17:23 |
friese | blank could also be nice - once i remember the layout :) | 17:23 |
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SK_work | r0kk3rz: never, maybe I'm missing something :( | 17:24 |
SK_work | I like the arrows on toholed though | 17:24 |
r0kk3rz | they usually come with a bunch of decals on some paper | 17:24 |
SK_work | ah | 17:24 |
SK_work | ok | 17:24 |
SK_work | I see | 17:24 |
r0kk3rz | which you soak in water then transfer onto the model | 17:24 |
SK_work | arrows can be a nice gamepad :) | 17:24 |
SK_work | r0kk3rz: I see now | 17:24 |
r0kk3rz | yeah | 17:25 |
SK_work | I remember building a small copter when I was young, but I sucked at modelling | 17:25 |
r0kk3rz | then you can have whatever layout you want, and they dont have to manufacture 100 different versions | 17:25 |
friese | i also like the ctrl-button (really useful on console) and dedicated number row | 17:25 |
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SK_work | friese: +1 | 17:26 |
SK_work | r0kk3rz: I don't care about what's on the keys | 17:27 |
SK_work | I just want to have an a coming out when pressing q | 17:27 |
SK_work | same for m and , and z and w | 17:27 |
r0kk3rz | im sure thats doable | 17:27 |
SK_work | nothing too complicated :) | 17:27 |
SK_work | indeed | 17:27 |
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r0kk3rz | i wonder if they're going to open up the design, so you can print one yourself | 17:29 |
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SK_work | r0kk3rz: don't know if it is 3D printed | 17:44 |
SK_work | but I would expect that the design is opened, except if there are any patents or some strange secret stuff | 17:44 |
r0kk3rz | SK_work: im pretty sure it is, all their prototypes have been | 17:46 |
SK_work | ha | 17:46 |
r0kk3rz | not sure if they ended up using the lasucase back | 17:46 |
SK_work | good news :) | 17:46 |
r0kk3rz | the problem would be the keyboard itself, since i think that ended up being a special order | 17:47 |
r0kk3rz | hence the high price | 17:47 |
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r0kk3rz | SK_work: https://i.imgur.com/1ekiAvZ.gif << looks like they're doing azerty | 18:39 |
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AL13N | ooh, azerty? | 18:45 |
AL13N | wait, this OH looks fairly thick | 18:46 |
AL13N | and isn't it mounted wrong, the top end is on the left, instead of on the right? | 18:46 |
Shinryuu | that's a great thing... | 18:46 |
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r0kk3rz | yeah its pretty thick | 18:50 |
r0kk3rz | but you can mount it however you want | 18:50 |
r0kk3rz | left side or right side | 18:50 |
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Tofe | regarding thickness, is there some comparison photo or rendering to be able to guess "how thick" it is ? | 18:53 |
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r0kk3rz | they might release some actual pics once they've got them available | 18:57 |
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dr_jolla | r0kk3rz: what`s new? | 18:59 |
r0kk3rz | afaik they're announcing something tomorrow | 19:00 |
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Shinryuu | pretty much so | 19:18 |
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mtd | ugh, "kernel: VFS: do_fsync_timeout pid:1235(contactsd)(parent:959/booster-qt5) fsync /home/nemo/.local/share/system/privileged/Contacts/qtcontacts-sqlite/contacts.db-wal." | 19:25 |
mtd | lovely | 19:25 |
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_cvp_ | mtd wrong window? :D | 19:33 |
Stskeeps | no, seems like a jolla problem.. | 19:34 |
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_cvp_ | argh..... qt programming is not funny :( | 19:51 |
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Tofe | _cvp_: actually it's quite alright, compared to other environments :) | 20:03 |
pdanek | Hey | 20:03 |
pdanek | I meant, Ahoy. | 20:03 |
Tofe | Hei | 20:04 |
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_cvp_ | i mean programming self... cant learn it :( i start every 4-5 weeks but after few hours i stop with it... damn why i dont learn programming 10/15 years ago | 20:07 |
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Tofe | _cvp_: you need to have a need to develop something; otherwise it's likely that the motivation won't be there | 20:10 |
Tofe | and if you just don't like it, well, noone forces you :) | 20:10 |
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_cvp_ | but i want | 20:12 |
_cvp_ | :P | 20:12 |
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_cvp_ | Tofe, i startig already, but i dont know how to go step forward | 20:16 |
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r0kk3rz | i never managed to self teach | 20:17 |
r0kk3rz | was only once doing uni and I learnt the fundamentals that I really began to get it | 20:18 |
pdanek | I wish Jolla will once become an ultimate sysadmin's tool, just like N900 was. :P | 20:19 |
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cb400f | what's missing? the keyboard? ;-) | 20:19 |
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pdanek | cb400f: perhaps stylus a bit, but mainly keyboard and perma-landscape mode | 20:22 |
pdanek | and bigger display never hurts (it's bigger than N900 already, but 5" would be ideal) | 20:22 |
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pdanek | and USB OTG + better battery :P | 20:24 |
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Tazy | how do i restart the services that do the login of nemo? | 20:52 |
attah | systemctl | 20:54 |
attah | or perhaps i was reading that to casually, sorry about that.. it does services, however not sure what is involved with login | 20:56 |
Tazy | my idea was to unlock the crypt device, kill nemo, mount encrypted fs as /home, login again. | 20:58 |
fennekki | kill nemo? | 20:58 |
Tazy | forcefully logout so i can unmount /home | 20:59 |
attah | there are some services session-c{1,7}.scope that sounds to have something to do with it | 20:59 |
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attah | also one named home.mount hmm.. | 21:01 |
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Venemo | hey guys | 21:43 |
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stephg | ohai | 21:44 |
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Venemo | electronics exam tomorrow morning | 21:55 |
stephg | good luck! | 21:55 |
stephg | right off to bed, seriously Venemo smash it tomorrow :) | 21:56 |
Venemo | I'm still practicing | 21:57 |
Venemo | at the moment, I suck | 21:57 |
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Tazy | to answer my own question, it was systemctl restart start-user-session@nemo.service | 21:59 |
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Venemo | Tazy: nice! | 22:09 |
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Tazy | tough i do get off center wayland/qt issues now XD maybe its not the right way to do. | 22:14 |
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Venemo | what kind of issues? | 22:23 |
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Shinryuu | I registered to maemo.org today, I've posted twice but my post count is still at "0", does this mean I have to wait for administrator etc. to approve my messages? | 22:57 |
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Venemo | well, this is not a support channel for maemo.org | 22:58 |
Venemo | why not visit the #maemo channel and ask there? | 22:58 |
Shinryuu | oh right, that's for the best | 22:59 |
Venemo | sorry | 22:59 |
Shinryuu | no, I made a hasty question | 22:59 |
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