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pawky|2Has anyone figured out how to overcome, once you have inserted an E-mail account, you cannot change the sync schedule on the ones that are unset?09:09
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lunatix_Hi everyone!09:27
lunatix_can someone tell me if it is normal that ambiance doesn't change when i switch my oh?09:27
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Bysmyyrlunatix_: is that ambiance in favorites?09:28
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lunatix_yes09:29
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lunatix_i read that ambiance doesn't change since a previous release09:30
lunatix_but i just wanted to be sure09:30
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lunatix_it's not a huge issue since i can change the ambiance manualy09:31
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pawky|2nobody havig any E-mail sync problems on 1.1.0.39 ?09:36
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hankeypancakevi kopierar kringlor!!  @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @09:40
Stskeepswat09:41
hankeypancakelol, wrong channel (:09:42
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dr_gogeta86hi Stskeeps09:57
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iamtewhankeypancake: inga kringlor för dig!13:26
ggabrieli (dis)agree13:27
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Yanielhmm14:44
Yanielremoving items from the play queue in media player doesn't work like it used to14:44
Yanielremoving one works14:45
Yanielbut after that it always removed the one *after* the one I had selected14:45
Yanielremoves*14:45
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Yanielnoticed after upgrading to uitukka14:49
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jmlichhi, I will have a talk about Jolla on openalt conference (tomorrow). Here are my slides http://pcmlich.fit.vutbr.cz/tmp/2014-Jolla.pdf Should I add some topic in there? The audience is very wide, but mostly linux newbies and regular linux users.15:14
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jmlichbtw there will be stream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovrOcT1xFZM It will be in Czech.15:14
Stskeepsjmlich: you're saying 5.1 on one slide and 5.2 on next15:14
jmlichStskeeps, thanks. fixed15:15
Stskeepsbesides that good15:15
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Hartzijmlich: what about adding authors of those TOH's?15:16
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Hartziobd toh :O15:17
ggabrielwas the kbd toh mentioned?15:17
jmlichharrow, that is good idea. ODB TOH is proof of concept from Kimmo Lindholm15:17
fennekkitohknd15:17
jmlichggabriel, yep15:17
ggabrielsorry then, scanned through too quickly15:17
fennekkihasn't kimmo made like half of all proof-of-concept TOHs15:17
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Morpog_PC__only the old tohkbd is mentioned15:18
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pdanekjmlich: oh god, I forgot about OpenAlt!15:25
pdanekI wanted to visit...15:25
pdanektoo late15:25
jmlichI wasn't aware about new keyboard TOH. I will add it.15:25
pdanekjmlich: http://www.jollausers.com/2014/10/jolla-tohkbd-will-hit-kickstarter-soon/15:25
jmlichpdanek, there will be live stream at youtube15:25
pdanekjmlich: really? 1st time?15:26
pdanekpreviously it wasn't live streamed15:26
jmlichjust my talks15:26
pdanekamazing15:26
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pdanekjmlich: where can I get the link?15:26
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Morpog_PC__he posted it already15:27
pdanekok sorry15:27
pdanekI see it above15:27
jmlichhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovrOcT1xFZM and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dxa1HnEJII15:27
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Morpog_PC__jmlich, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=9401015:35
Morpog_PC__audio TOH15:35
jmlichThanks15:37
Morpog_PC__and tohkbd2 thread http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=9315615:37
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TMavicahttps://together.jolla.com/question/61539/mitakuuluu-stop-using-immediately/16:24
TMavicalol16:24
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sippisfor me newest mitakuuluu eorks just fine16:27
sippis*works16:27
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mornfallpdanek: Brno conspiracy in here?16:29
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r0kk3rzyes well this is what happens when you use closed protocols16:37
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r0kk3rzwhatsapp should be thanking coderus for mitakuuluu. increasing their empire for free is a nice gesture16:38
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Morpog_PC__companys are stupid most of the times16:48
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okuI've got three friends that got banned, all of them registered the first time through an 3rd party app16:49
clauhmm, I wonder why people downvote the mitakuuluu issue.16:50
Morpog_PC__well, I did too and I wasn't banned16:50
okuI registered with an official app first time and I'm not banned. Maybe it makes a different16:50
Morpog_PC__because it's already fixed16:50
Morpog_PC__clau16:50
okuMorpog_PC__: not for everyone16:50
clauit's actually a real issue, coderus has acknowledged it.16:50
Morpog_PC__well, you need to update16:50
clauMorpog_PC__: I use two accounts, on different phones16:51
clauone was banned, one not16:51
okuMorpog_PC__: I've got a friend that got banned even with the latest version16:51
clausomeone has reported being blocked with 0.8.15 too16:51
fennekkiI only got banned after updating, IIRC16:51
r0kk3rzi dont think ive been banned yet16:51
Morpog_PC__wasn't banned on old, still not banned on new16:51
clauand, by the looks of it I'll never get the account unbanned.16:51
clau48h with no response. after 72h it's going to be deleted afaik.16:52
fennekkiclau: that doesn't mean you couldn't get it re-registered after an unban tho16:52
clauMorpog_PC__: if you don't have the problem it doesn't mean nobody has it16:52
claufennekki: sure, if they ever bother to answer.16:52
fennekkiyeah, yeah16:53
fennekkiI've had it pending for a while now too16:53
clauhow long?16:53
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fennekkiuhh16:53
fennekkimore than a day16:53
Morpog_PC__clau, did you register?16:53
Morpog_PC__or did you just use your account?16:53
claunormal use16:54
claubtw, someone reported that you need to ask for help from the whatsapp client, which spawns an email client, which doesn't work currently.16:54
clauthis can be solved by installing a client such as K-9 Mail16:54
fennekkiif it just sends it to the customer service address there is no difference16:55
clauI haven't done it yet on that phone, but I tested it on the working one and whatsapp client opens it when you try to use email from it16:55
clauthere is, apparently16:55
clauhttps://github.com/CODeRUS/mitakuuluu2/issues/27816:55
fennekkias far as I know it's impossible to inject special headers into an email that way16:55
clauprobably it uses some specific subject, I'll get back to you as soon as I can try it from the other phone16:55
fennekkiand if it doesn't do that- yeah16:55
clauhmm, I see16:55
fennekkiyeah you could just type the subject there by yourself inthat case16:55
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fennekkiI just sent email and it's currently processing16:56
fennekkidid you check zendesk16:56
clauno, I'll check it.16:57
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fennekkiif it says "awaiting your response" you need to put a comment there and it'll continue processing16:57
claugtg, I'll be back a tad later16:58
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r0kk3rzi wonder if whatsapp has patented the whole 'your phone number is your username thing'17:01
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r0kk3rzbecause really, thats all that makes whatsapp special17:01
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okuYeah, the point it's so popular is it's so easy. The problem with every other solution is that they're too complicated to start with for average Joe/Jane.17:07
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okuOpen source solutions fail that part. They can be very amaizing if we only see the technical part, but the problem is that your dad or my girlfriend don't give a shit about the protocol's inner workings. Only thing that matters is the user experience17:09
okuIt doesn't help me any if I can use XMPP with my geek friends if still most of my friends don't use it.17:10
okuThat fact renders XMPP useless17:10
okuWe need out of the box working solution for android and iphone for it to become popular and for jolla for us to use17:11
r0kk3rzwell obviously17:11
r0kk3rznone of my friends have a jphone17:11
r0kk3rzso a sailfish only app is of limited use17:11
okuyeah17:12
Aardr0kk3rz: the solution obviously is to get better friends17:12
okuit needs to work on iphone and android17:12
r0kk3rzAard: i think so17:12
okuand it needs to be easy17:12
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* Aard does not have many people I'm communicating with without a jolla17:12
okuAard: well I'm not changing my girlfriend for using the wrong software. If you think everybody should do that you're either insane or forever alone.17:13
r0kk3rzwell whatsapp already has the user inertia though, so simply being feature competitive with whatsapp is probably not going to do it17:13
r0kk3rzunless you push the whole 'facebook evil' stuff17:13
NavThey are17:13
Aardoku: my wife uses a jolla :p17:13
Navand I do :-)17:13
okuAard: well you're rare species :D17:13
r0kk3rzwell its a bit much to ask auswegians to import a phone from finland17:14
* Nav is perfectly happy with open standards where I can run my own servers for things17:14
okumy girlfriend doesn't give a shit about the software she uses17:14
Aardoku: for the 'insane' bit you can probably do a poll here, might get some confirmations17:14
r0kk3rzi only bought one after seeing one in a DNA store in turku17:14
oku:D17:14
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r0kk3rzi wonder how specials ricochet thing is coming along17:34
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pdanekmornfall: why conspiracy? :)18:02
Morpog_PC__Aard, we as users would like to have Jolla talk with Whatsapp inc., if they don't make a native app you guys could at least try to get them to not ban our inofficial solutions.18:03
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Stskeeps10 bucks it'd end up with them telling why they ban but at that point we'd be under NDA in conversations and then we can't tell how to fix.. :P18:03
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* Aard would bet 100 bucks on them not even talking to us18:04
Morpog_PC__:(18:04
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AardMorpog_PC__: we try to have the android whatsapp app working fine, which currently is probably the best we can do18:05
StskeepsAard: people seem to bring up notifications as not working properly though18:05
Stskeepsnot sure what that's about as i'm not really touching dalvik side18:05
Morpog_PC__well, yeah, that would be my last solution, but I try to stay at native apps as long as I can18:06
AardStskeeps: where? didn't hear that so far18:06
Morpog_PC__notifications never seem to work stable on any android app18:06
Morpog_PC__also you don't get them in notification center since update 2 or 318:06
Morpog_PC__iirc18:07
StskeepsMorpog_PC__: could you elaborate a bit to aard about it?18:07
AardMorpog_PC__: I have lots of android notifications in there18:07
Morpog_PC__let's say amazon app store18:07
Morpog_PC__sometimes i get notifications about updates, but most times not18:08
Morpog_PC__I seem to only get them if I have started the amazon app once in a while18:08
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pdanekSailfish WhatsApp app was the best thing out there.18:10
pdanek:(18:10
Morpog_PC__Aard, the notifications i missed was in lockscreen, not notification center, i mixed that up18:11
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Morpog_PC__also it seems you need to let whatsapp app open to get notofications, but this is from memory, last time I tried android in dalvik was with update 1 :D18:13
r0kk3rzyeah i get android notifications in the notification centre18:13
r0kk3rzbut dont get notified to check the notification centre as such18:13
Morpog_PC__r0kk3rz, but you also get them kinda random?18:13
r0kk3rzwell with no queue to check the notifications panel, its hard to tell18:14
r0kk3rz¤18:14
r0kk3rzque18:14
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Morpog_PC__oh btw Stskeeps i love the smoothness, if it just had more ram :D18:23
Morpog_PC__looking forward to u10 and your solutions to that problem18:23
* Stskeeps stands on the edge of balcony18:24
Stskeepsi don't think solution is what you think it is18:24
Stskeeps:P18:24
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Stskeeps;)18:24
Morpog_PC__sounds like killing apps even faster18:24
Morpog_PC__well, lets call it workaround, as we cannot get more real ram :D18:25
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r0kk3rzsure you can18:29
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r0kk3rzif you're really awesome with a soldering iron18:30
Morpog_PC__hehe18:30
Morpog_PC__I guess that would void my warranty :D18:30
AardMorpog_PC__: well, you could hook it up via i2c, but don't count in it doing much to improve performance :p18:31
Morpog_PC__lol, swapping on the sdcard would be alot faster still ;)18:32
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rubdosSomeone has a clue when I can order those wallet cases again? :)19:17
rubdos(talking about the lastu thingies)19:19
claufenneki, see last comment: https://github.com/CODeRUS/mitakuuluu2/issues/27819:22
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r0kk3rzrubdos: pretty sure you can order them direct from lastucase19:31
rubdos[...] and is available exclusively at the Jolla Online Shop.19:31
rubdosI can get them with custom engraving though from lastu...19:32
r0kk3rzyeah its the same thing without the jolla logo on the back19:33
rubdosWell, let's ask one for Christmas :-)19:34
rubdosthing looks nice...19:34
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meklurubdos: the one with the jolla logo is only available on jolla's store19:53
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rubdosI noticed :)19:53
meklu:)19:53
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mornfallpdanek: why not :) Brno is definitely over-represented20:44
pdanek1mornfall: I don't live in Brno :)20:48
pdanek1But I still have many friends there, so visiting OpenAlt is worth20:48
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mornfallpdanek: strictly speaking I don't either, but I just got off a train from there :)21:11
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