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mornfalljust4info: it's not “tax free” it's just how VAT works... as a business, you are paying vat received minus vat paid to the state, so when you buy stuff that ends up on the vat paid side08:36
mornfalljust4info: still, any money you make by using that thing you got “tax free” is subject to vat (that's the added value from the name)08:37
Teemuit is grown in large moldy vats08:42
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Morpog_PCnice, new layout was merged with master branch of sailfish browser!08:58
Morpog_PClooks like we get it with update1108:58
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ArmadilloMorpog_PC which new layout?09:54
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ahjolinnaArmadillo: https://github.com/sailfishos/sailfish-browser/commit/256f87813f534cf6d3edbf6c7d0f2f818368d0b610:05
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gogetafor10:31
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Armadilloahjolinna thanks10:34
Armadillothe new layout rocks :)10:35
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TemeVI tried to compile that just for the fun of it, but it gives me "error: 'class DeclarativeWebPage' has no member named 'background'"11:14
TemeVsailfish-browser I mean11:14
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coderusyou need new qtmozembed devel package obliviously11:24
coderussailfish-browser is just gui11:24
coderuseverything in qtmozembed and embedlite-components11:25
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TemeVwell, it would have been too easy if it was just download and hit build :)11:26
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coderusit would have been much better if you would know what are you doing11:27
TemeVmost definitely11:28
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kimmoliwhere is the fun then?11:40
coderusfun?11:41
coderusyou have not enough of fun already?11:41
kimmolii have ...11:41
kimmolii definetily dont know what i'm doing11:42
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coderusah :)11:44
coderusme too :D11:44
coderusimplemented upnp ssdp multicast search and i have no idea how it working :D11:44
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kimmolii'm shopping with my mom and my daughter... there is luckily no places to jump11:47
Morpog_PC         CoderCandy what do you need?11:51
Morpog_PCerrrr11:51
Morpog_PCcoderus,11:51
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marinaiohttps://twitter.com/TMavica/status/53391244089584844811:53
Morpog_PCon TMP he says he even knows the price already11:53
Morpog_PCTMO11:53
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secWell possibly, I doubt it's another phone. They may be releasing a tablet as a capability showcase - but why I don't understand - they could've just as well used a Nexus 7/9.11:55
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Morpog_PCgoogle would sue the hell out of them :D11:59
secWhy?12:00
marinaiosec: afaik tablet sales are declining. Releasing a phablet  would make more sense12:00
Morpog_PChow should they sell that? pre insatleld?12:00
Morpog_PCinstalled12:00
secNo, I am talking about capability, not sales12:01
CoderCandyMorpog_PC: hmm?12:03
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Morpog_PCsorry CoderCandy wanted to ping coderus12:03
CoderCandyaaah12:03
Morpog_PCautocomplete fail12:03
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coderusMorpog_PC: i need icons for my LG webOS Smart TV remote app :)12:10
coderuslauncher icon first12:10
coderusfor UI i'll ping you if system lack of some icons i need :)12:11
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PeperJohnnyI think they would release an own tablet because of licence issues with android compability12:15
PeperJohnnyat least the answers are always licence, if you ask why there's no android support on nexus ports12:16
Morpog_PChttp://abload.de/img/harbour-webosremotewjsv8.png12:18
Morpog_PCcoderus12:18
Morpog_PCcolor is drom webos mouse pointer :D12:18
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clauWhat happened to jolla.com? There is a big ass counter there.12:39
coderusMorpog_PC: looks good :)12:39
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TemeVclau: "Something BIG is about to begin" as it says in jolla.com12:40
clauhmm, is jolla launching a tablet?12:40
clauthe picture in the background does look like a new device.12:40
TemeVwe will know in 2 days, 20 hours, 19 minutes and 15 seconds12:40
clauk, I bet on tablet.12:41
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clau:)12:41
TemeVTablet seems to be most popular guess all around the internet12:41
kimmolii will irc and tweet as soon as i know what it is, as it seems to get announced at slush12:41
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Morpog_PCclau, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=9415712:43
Morpog_PCcoderus, you need the SVG too?12:43
Morpog_PCfuture icons need to be in SVG it seems12:44
coderusMorpog_PC: no i dont need svg, thanks :)12:44
coderusMorpog_PC: ah, i need cover image12:44
Morpog_PCfor scalability12:44
coderusMorpog_PC: ok send it, i'll save for future :)12:44
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Morpog_PCcoderus, https://www.dropbox.com/sh/venclnol8vj41qd/AACYNW-rPM1KZWzS-aBAbe8aa?dl=012:51
Morpog_PCcover also done12:52
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coderusMorpog_PC: can you add pointer shape to cover to understand what it does?12:54
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Morpog_PCsure12:55
pdanekAny of you Sailors already tried Lollipop?12:58
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Morpog_PCcoderus, added cover2 in the dropbox folder13:04
coderusthanks!13:05
coderusMorpog_PC: em, opposite please :D13:06
coderuscursor shape inside TV13:06
coderusit will be better imho :)13:06
coderus:D13:06
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Morpog_PCcoderus, cover3 uploaded13:27
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coderusMorpog_PC: thanks!13:32
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Morpog_PCahaha, @YvesPE revealed the big Jolla thing: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2kLOLfCEAEB607.jpg13:50
Stskeepsi'd buy that13:52
Morpog_PC:D looks delicious13:52
TemeVthe big thing is that Jolla will move to coffee industry?13:53
TemeVcoffee maker with SailfisOS?13:53
TemeVOr maybe there is hidden message in the foam13:54
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cryoratTemeV, another conspiration theory? :)13:55
secI'd buy that13:55
TemeVI just like making up rumors13:56
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attahTemeV: But will it speak HTCPCP?14:04
ggabrieli think it will just be a spare battery14:06
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secWell that is a BIG step imo14:07
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TemeVattah: well, I think it should as well as every other main stream coffee maker OS14:12
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attah:)14:15
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ggabrieli'll have to make myself a coffee now14:18
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pcfequestion on warehouse and building; I currently build a package on build.merproject.org, should I continue doing so when making an entry on openrepos.net for easier installation via warehouse and, if yes, is there a way to link new builds (if ever necessary) automatically?16:04
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cb400fpcfe: I think you should ask those type of questions in #sailfishos16:21
pcfecb400f: OK, thanks16:22
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kaolHi. How do I change the jolla account on the phone? I had forgot that I had already created an account when I preordered and I created another when I turned the phone on.17:35
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kaolNever mind, I found how.17:37
Tegukaol: hi. I don't have another account so I cannot try, but .. oki17:37
kaolThere was a delete account option on the pull down menu.17:37
Teguthere was also an "update login" or whatever it is in english version17:38
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kaolHm. Pretty confusing, so far.17:49
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Stskeepsi have to ask .. https://twitter.com/n9mx/status/533969680734494720 -- is that a lot of people falling from the sky?18:21
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FireFlyLooks like so18:34
* pahartik would like "Jolla Mobile" to stay connected at all times when mobile network is reachable18:34
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Stskeepspahartik: well, the logic of that is fully oss..18:35
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pahartikStskeeps: 'while sleep 30 ; do ( /usr/lib/connman/tools/connmanctl state | egrep --quiet "State = (online)|(ready)" ) || ( date --iso-8601=seconds ; /usr/lib/connman/tools/connmanctl connect cellular_[...]_context1 ) ; done' used to help18:51
ShadowJK"sleep" only works with screen on18:52
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tbryeah, 1s sleep can quickly turn into 5min19:01
pahartiktbr: Acknowledged19:01
Stskeepstbr: starting process of making the source dump now..19:02
kimmolitbr: now someone needs to make iphpsleep for cli ?19:02
tbryou need something that speaks IPHB19:03
tbrkimmoli: that shouldn't be hard now. :)19:03
kimmolino19:03
* tbr might look into it tomorrow19:03
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* pahartik has IPv6 tunnel and SSH port forwarding for IRC, should just work 24/719:12
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Stskeepstbr: http://monster.tspre.org/~carsten/diff.txt seems about right?19:16
Stskeepsfrom previous release19:16
Stskeepsi added the sdk bits as well for fun and profit19:17
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tbrStskeeps: noticed vbox, guessed that. :)19:18
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tbrStskeeps: v8 is gone? or was that folded into the qt tree or sthg like that?19:18
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attahStskeeps: I notice qtdocgallery in there... any idea on when/if it might be  ok:ed for harbour? (or who to poke)19:20
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tbra net decrease in number of Qt packages is surprising, but then I don't know much about packaging differences between 5.0 and 5.2 (or which versions those were)19:20
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Stskeepstbr: pacrunner was the one using it19:22
Stskeepstbr: qtjsbackend is no longer in use at least19:22
tbrah, ok19:22
Stskeepsok, source checkout in progress..19:22
tbr\o/19:22
tbrif someone finds something missing we can always fix it up19:23
phaerontbr pacrunner was switched to use cutejs which uses the qt v4 engine19:24
phaerontbr cutejs is written by deztructor19:25
tbrphaeron: thanks for the details <319:25
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attahI started playing a little with connmanctl.. does anyone know why the "session" option doesn't work?19:33
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attahokay.. it does work.. just fails with a bad msg when you give incorrect input to it19:40
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pdanekNokia is going to show big news.23:25
pdanekJolla is going to show big news.23:25
pdanekMaybe there is something in it?23:26
pdanekNokia producing Sailfish smartphones? :)23:26
pdanekOr not.23:26
fennekkiNokia purchases Jolla, turns it into their new mobile phone department23:27
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silver_hookpdanek: Where did you get the Nokia big news from?23:31
Teemunokia is ms now23:32
Teemums always has something interesting just behind the corner whenever somebody has just announced something23:32
Teemulike pen computing, the original company showcased it and weeks later big ms announces big time hoorah that ms is investing in computers operable with pens23:33
ln-nokia is nokia, ms is not nokia anymore23:33
silver_hookRight, they just opened up .NET …so that could be it :p23:33
silver_hookwell, most of .NET23:34
Teemueverybody stopped investing in the pen computing company because ms is going to outdo them anyway23:34
silver_hookHere is Nokia23:34
Teemupen goes bankrupt23:34
Teemums buys pen23:34
Teemusome time later ms announces pen computing that suspiciously looks exactly like the pen company solution did23:34
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silver_hookTeemu: Yea …but still, where’s the „Nokia big news” link?23:36
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Teemudunno23:37
silver_hookpdanek: ?23:37
Teemui should be sleeping23:37
Teemuo/23:37
silver_hook,o/23:37
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