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CvP_hi, need help. i dont have a dialer/phone app anymore after install better call log. what is the pkcon command to install it?01:42
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WalterNhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GND10sWq0n002:09
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WalterNalright, I made a post about it... https://together.jolla.com/question/69681/request-jolla-tablet-m2-interface/03:37
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WalterN"congratulations, you have a popularity badge now"05:39
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CvP_but to late07:48
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japa-fiIs there a compass application to jolla, one which can show to the map north. The two that I've found lock north at the start of the application as north=where your phone points at the start09:35
jonwilDoes the Jolla phone have a compass sensor?09:36
gogetais on jolla store09:37
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Nicd-jonwil: yes, the phone has a compass10:39
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BonoNL_call application lost?11:28
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BonoNL_look on tjc11:29
BonoNL_deleted a warehouse app11:29
BonoNL_had the problem once11:30
BonoNL_@cvp11:30
BonoNL_pkcon install voicecall-ui-jolla11:32
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chem|stBonoNL_: he also used #5 in recovery mode and the device went funny11:47
BonoNL_sunday mood? :)11:48
BonoNL_to lazy to work?11:48
chem|stjapa-fi: you need to calibrate the compass to show north properly11:49
chem|stBonoNL_: no I guess he followed the wrong instructions11:49
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BonoNL_chem|st: I had the problem once, weird but we fixed it!11:56
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the_mgtdoes this libpurple/haze stuff in this repo still work? http://repo.merproject.org/obs/home:/norguhtar:/haze/sailfish_1.0.2.5_armv7hl/12:39
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tbrthe_mgt: mh, might, but would make sense to rebuild that properly etc12:41
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tbras in fork the package on OBS and have it rebuilt against sailfish latest (or U9)12:42
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BonoNL_what about a specific dalvik bug, should it be reported through tjc?12:56
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BonoNL_the enter isn't changing into search so the app turns useless...12:58
Kiranossadly had enough of reboots in flaky net locations (where the phone switches from 2g/3g/4g)13:02
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Kiranosordered an iphone :(13:02
Kiranostwo important phone calls missed as the phone rebooted 10sec in to the call, its embarrising13:03
the_mgttbr: I am too layzy to rebuild, sadly13:04
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StskeepsKiranos: did you have your device past care?13:05
M4rtinKwell, I still don't trust any smartphone enough for calls :)13:06
Kiranosno I had a case but they wanted me to order the pickup myself, I would do all the contacting and setup pickup with the transport company13:07
alteregoM4rtinK: ?13:07
M4rtinKalterego: I use a Nokia 6610i for calling/SMS13:07
KiranosStskeeps: and I've read alot about the reboot issue, and that there seems to be two, one with loose contacts to the battery and one with flaky net13:07
M4rtinKalterego: as the battery lasts much longer than a smartphone one13:08
Stskeepssounds odd, but ok, anyway, care could have helped you13:08
M4rtinKalterego: and there is much less stuff that can go wrong preventing you from calling or receiving calls13:08
Sail0rKiranos: they send you everything you need13:08
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alteregoM4rtinK: yeah, I always carry around a spare battery :x13:08
Sail0rand you only need to make an appointment with the shipping company13:08
Sail0rbecause care does not know when you are at home13:09
M4rtinKalterego: still won't help for missed calls :)13:09
alteregopfft, if it's important they'll ring back :P13:09
M4rtinKalterego: well, yeah :)13:09
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KiranosStskeeps: yea but I think they should do the contact to the transport company, I got an pdf I had to print out, order pickup, etc in 10 days or it would be forfited, I didnt have time for that and had no printer at home so had to do it at work where its very busy13:09
KiranosI expected jolla to send this out so I could just put it in a bag and give to someone like everyone else13:10
Stskeepsokay13:10
Sail0rthat's ridiculous Kiranos :-/13:10
Sail0rit takes 2mins to make a appointment with fedex13:11
Kiranoswell fedex is not very big in sweden13:11
Kiranosbut its ok with me13:11
KiranosI'm fine with iphone just wanted to tell here about me experience13:11
Kiranosits more buggy than I wanted after 1 year13:12
Sail0rbut you didn't give a chance to fix it13:12
Kiranosand the reboot bug is embarrising when I have to recall people I dont really know and it reboots two times to the same person I talk to13:12
Sail0rI had the same issue13:12
KiranosSail0r: I did the paper trick13:12
Sail0rsend it to care13:12
Sail0rand it's done13:12
Sail0rno reboots afterwards13:13
Sail0rand I got a brand new Jolla13:13
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KiranosSail0r: ok might send it in again, but last time I did reissue the initial call to jolla but never printed the receipt or whatever that fedex needed, so guess I wont now either, I think I'll be happy with iphone13:15
Kiranosalso dont like that still after 1 year that you cant buy payed apps13:15
Sail0rWell, I just say you have time to buy an iphone13:15
Sail0rbut not print a paper13:15
Sail0rthat's kind of strange ^^13:15
Kiranosyes iphone does all for me13:15
Sail0rsend the broken one to me ;)13:15
Kiranosapple webiste click order and pay with visa and done13:15
Sail0rI setup shipping ;)13:16
Kiranos:)13:16
KiranosI think there are some at work interested in jolla to try it out, they can do it if they want to use ti13:16
Kiranosit13:16
Kiranosbut yea, and no voice in the maps software? ..13:16
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Kiranosits dangerous to have to look at the phone all the time, I want to put it donw and listen where I should drive13:17
Kiranosits to much thats still missing and now they officially gone out and said that the jolla phone will be shelved more or less until the tablet is out13:17
BonoNL_Kiranos: here maps it is...13:17
Sail0ryeah, I understand that many people are not happy with the phone13:18
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Sail0rEven for me there are many things which i don't like in SailfishOS13:18
Sail0rand many which I don't understand why they are not important for Jolla to get them working13:19
Sail0rBut it's pretty much what I expected when I bought the phone ;)13:19
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alteregoSail0r: Just because something isn't done, or doesn't appear to be actively worked on doesn't mean it's not important.13:20
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alteregoSail0r: it's just prioritisation13:20
Sail0ralterego: I know ;)13:20
Sail0rIt was a bit over dramatic ;)13:20
phaeronKiranos: who said anything about shelving it ?13:21
Sail0rThe main problem is that I still cannot recommend the phone to non techie people13:21
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alteregoSail0r: We all want the platform to be the best, we want all the bells and whistles, but there just aren't that many sailors to work on everything that needs to be done. So we have to be very careful about what gets done and when.13:21
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alteregoSail0r: yes, I can sympathise. Hopefully the next year will see even more of a radical change for the better with Sailfish. Already over the past year I think that it's come along tremendously :)13:22
Sail0ralterego: Yeah, I know that I work in an IT company myself. But I have a problem with how Jolla represents SailfishOS to the outside world sometimes. I was really shocked when they announce 1.0 and now they announce 2.0 and we are still missing essential features.13:22
alteregoAnd as long as there are people like your self that are happy to help support the platform, even though you know about the pitfalls, it all helps :)13:22
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Sail0rI know that it will be a plattform near from perfect but sometimes the marketing of Jolla get's a bit over the top I think ;). But that's normal13:23
Kiranosphaeron: it was in an update10 progress update at together, that devs would focus on the tablest13:23
Kiranostablet13:23
Sail0rAnd I am still happy with my phone :). It's better then any Android phone i had.13:24
phaeronhow is focus equal to shelving :)13:24
Sail0rand I like sailfishos more then harmattan13:24
StskeepsKiranos: [citation needed] (focus on tablet)13:25
Kiranosyea I dont remember the exact quote but all in all I think jolla should gave gone out with the issue with 2g/3g switching and cause of reboots13:26
Sail0rthey have patches lots of things with that issue13:26
Sail0rlook at the changelogs13:26
Sail0r*patched13:27
Stskeepsfwiw, "We've been working hard on improving the out of memory (OOM) handling by the OS since the update9 opt-in was released. A portion of our time went into demo preparations for Slush and of course the tablet launch. This has left us lagging a bit behind the internal release schedule for update10."13:27
Stskeepsis what it says13:27
Stskeepshttps://together.jolla.com/question/68125/official-announcement-current-status-of-update10/13:27
Stskeepswe're one linear code line, not two13:27
Stskeepstablet is in many ways just another hw adaptation and ui improvements go to all devices13:28
tbrseparate code line for each product and copy product, fun times... fun memories... NOT!13:28
Kiranosbut why no payed appstore after 1 year? I'm not flaming I would love to be happy with my jolla13:30
Teemumikko hypponen put it very nicely in his tedx speech that there are no free apps13:30
Teemupayment option would be nice indeed13:31
M4rtinKKiranos: well, there is a lot more stuff that is not there yet13:31
M4rtinKKiranos: but Jolla has limited resources13:31
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Stskeepshttp://www.boredpanda.com/satiric-illustrations-retro-john-holcroft/13:32
* tbr wonders why apps don't do their own upselling, it's not /that/ hard, and both are equally easy to foil in 99% of all cases13:33
KiranosM4rtinK: yea I understand, it boils down to that I might be to picky for a "dev" phone I though I wasnt but yes I believe that I thought it would be more "done" than what it is. I have to manually put in my data for sms/mms/ etc, it doesnt pick it up by default. Its alot of these issues13:35
M4rtinKon the other hand, I think that there are some areas where community might be able to help, but unfortunately can't due to the given component being closed source & Jolla is lacking the resources to do the work themselves, so stuff gets delayed...13:35
M4rtinKI'm not saying it might actually work - there might actually be no participation even after a lot of work with open sourcing13:36
Kiranoswhen there were montly updates I had a feeling, that hopefully my issues will be fixed soon as I saw there were so much work going on, but I dont think there has been a single update since before summer vacations?13:36
M4rtinKar the contribution workflow might be more work than doing the same changes outright13:36
M4rtinKbut I think many developers might be still frustrated due to not being able to "scratch their own itch" and fix stuff that's not open13:37
Teemuthe secret project might have taken some of the resources13:37
Kiranosso for me personally an iphone is better, it has very good stability13:37
Stskeepswhat secret project?13:37
Stskeeps:P13:37
arM4rtinK: ?13:37
Yanielbtw nice job on the a2dp support13:37
TeemuStskeeps: the one you outed at slush13:37
StskeepsTeemu: nah. it didn't take a lot of people's time.13:38
Teemudunno13:38
Teemuhard to estimate those kinds of things13:38
KiranosI will probably dust of my phone when the pyshical keyboard toh gets released and try it out13:39
Teemui managed with a small team to come up with a working mockup system of a combined online/instore shopping integration system from mid-august to 4.12.13:39
Teemumeanwhile i bought the jolla phone and forgot to join the tohkbd kickstarter13:39
Kiranosa big reason to why I bought jolla is because of android devices dont do pyhiscal anymore, to few in the target group to warrant it13:39
Stskeepsadmittedly qt5.2 is needed for tablet, but that was a general need for stack in first plcae13:40
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Teemuthe last two weeks were pretty damn busy13:40
Teemukimmoli: i might want to buy a keybored in some non-ks-way whenever that's possible13:41
kimmolihttp://funkyotherhalf.com/?page_id=9#!/c/9141090/inview=product42141285&offset=0&sort=normal13:41
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KiranosStskeeps: what I feel is that the phone is not really targeted towards devs anymore, its more targeted to "a third alternative" and if so you want it to be an alternative for the broad audience, compared to iphone and android, please look over payed apps, I know android apps are present, but now alot of them are requireing google maket for rights managemnt or something13:42
Kiranosand also, not at all up to date as google market is13:43
Teemui'd like to buy sleepanalyzer for jolla13:44
Teemui had it on n900 and loved it13:44
Teemuno android thing comes close13:44
StskeepsKiranos: i completely agree13:46
Teemuthe original developer seems not willing to port it as he has moved on to better systems (blueberry) but ...13:46
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BonoNL_there are some devs who moved to BB who are waiting for paid apps.13:48
BonoNL_knobtviker for instance13:48
Teemui'd love if it then sent coap or http requests when in my home network so i could trigger my fancy lights when the waking up event comes closer13:48
BonoNL_:)13:48
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Teemui happen to make at work an embedded control system that uses open protocols (as in: the protocol has an rfc)13:50
kimmolilike rfc 2324 ?13:53
Teemuor rfc 114913:54
Teemubtw did you study at tkk when the limux sms-payment soda vending machine was at basement of 3a?13:55
kimmoliwhat you mean by studying?13:56
Teemuor did you visit the buildings? :)13:57
Teemui never studied in there13:57
Teemui just got the library card and spent countless nights at maarintalo and 3a and 3b13:57
Teemua bit less time in sbo13:58
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kimmolinot actually been there at all. Mostly visiting different VTT places14:00
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Teemuah14:00
Teemui presented my demo to some vtt guys on thursday14:01
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meklurfc 2324 is the best rfc14:04
Teemuthere's the trouble that very few baristas support it14:05
Teemumachines are easier to adapt but then automats don't make good coffee14:05
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clauany idea why not all pictures in the gallery are visible in android apps? and, is there a way to fix it?15:07
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Teemukimmoli: are all of the stm32's programmable via i2c?15:20
Teemushould there perhaps be something that speaks i2c to jolla and then swd to the dut? that could facilitate gdb debugging and all coolness breaks loose15:20
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kimmoliTeemu: afain not all of them are programmable over i2c, depends on bootloader rom version15:26
kimmoligdb over i2c15:26
kimmoliyou could make swd "host" on another stm32 which is then connected to the target15:27
Teemuindeed15:27
kimmoliit would then be like stlink thingy15:27
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kimmolibut it is connected to jolla by i2c, instead of usb to pc15:27
Teemuexactly15:28
Teemuoh btw is the usb otg-enabled or enablable?15:28
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Nicd-damn, had a reboot again :(15:41
Nicd-and as before, when I was using the phone right when I touched the screen15:41
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ced117does anyone know how to solve this whitout rebooting the phone ? http://pastebin.com/G5kZDNhx15:44
ced117whiteout*15:45
Nicd-without* :)15:45
joonahoihas younited worked for someone after the last update?15:49
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Nicd-joonahoi: nope15:50
Nicd-unless there was an update after the one that broke everything15:50
ced117oh, thanks Nicd- ^^15:50
Nicd-I am really disappointed with F-Secure and Jolla QA in this case15:51
Nicd-you can't just release and update that breaks your app entirely (doesn't even start usually) and then have it in the store for a week with no fix15:52
Nicd-an*15:52
M4rtinKso much for QA :)15:52
joonahoiNicd-: indeed15:52
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clauah, the old 'commit before you leave office, without testing' thingie.16:08
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clauthere should be a law against it.16:08
claucommit or publish new app, same difference16:09
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WalterNclau: sounds like a variation of "publish or perish"16:14
Teemuare the f guys on a month long vacation then?16:14
clauthe app should be removed from store immediately. no excuse for jolla.16:15
claureverting to prev version might not be an option, as it may not support who knows what server side changes.16:16
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WalterNM4rtinK: is your username M4rtinK on the together.jolla website?16:21
M4rtinKwalokra: just MartinK16:21
WalterNtabfail16:21
WalterN:P16:22
Teemuand oh, should the programs on jolla phone know about my accounts in the settings accounts?16:22
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WalterNM4rtinK: so you saw my M.2 post? :316:23
M4rtinKnot yet16:23
Teemui mean, i already told it my twitter and google and jolla accounts and it's pretty weird to me that the apps don't know f about this?16:23
WalterNM4rtinK: as a side note, evidently the M.2 interface is almost exactly a year old16:26
M4rtinKinteresting coincidence :)16:26
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WalterNI should go by tiwake on freenode16:27
WalterNhmm16:27
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tiwakeI still have H264 registered in my freenode account? lol16:31
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tiwaketiwake too... dont think I've used it in so long16:32
tiwakemonths anyway, maybe a year16:32
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tiwakeoh gosh, that idea for an n-trig digitizer... that would be so awesome16:47
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krkunkastajaHi! Is there any working speech to text app for jolla?18:01
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Teemutiwake: dunno about n-trig but a real wacom would rule18:04
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M4rtinKkrkunkastaja: according to this: http://www.merproject.org/logs/#sailfishos-push/#sailfishos-push.2014-08-01.log18:05
M4rtinKkrkunkastaja: espeak kinda works18:05
krkunkastajaM4rtinK, tnx. im going to try it..18:06
M4rtinKkrkunkastaja: some espeak packages are here: https://build.merproject.org/package/binaries/home:MartinK:sailfish/espeak?repository=sailfish_latest_armv7hl18:07
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r0kk3rzM4rtinK: is there an easy way to search for packages on OBS?18:14
M4rtinKr0kk3rz: search box in upper right18:14
M4rtinKunlike the old MeeGo OBS, it works on the new Mer one :)18:15
r0kk3rzah my bad18:15
r0kk3rztheres two search boxes on the projects page18:15
r0kk3rzone thats useful and one that isnt18:16
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kimmoliespeak is text-to-speech (or have i missed something?)18:19
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chem|stkimmoli: didn't you get a tab for free yet?18:25
kimmolichem|st: you can help http://igg.me/at/jolla-tablet/x/334170418:25
chem|stkimmoli: hehe, I ordered withtin the first 100...18:26
kimmolibut did you forget shipping? or lastucase ?18:26
kimmoli:)18:26
chem|stI was wondering what 10 lastucase referrals get me^^18:26
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chem|stkimmoli: I used espeak on n900 to have the device speak instead of ringtones18:28
kimmolii have it there to speak irssi notifications in some cases18:30
chem|stat university there is a speaker in the bookshelf of the IT guys... some people get shocked when the bookshelf starts to speak nagios messages out loud^^18:31
chem|stI once got stuck on that bookshelf with clips of my bag... those guys like to play with magnets, the bad kind of18:32
chem|stkimmoli: how thick is the oledtoh?18:33
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kimmolitoholed you mean18:35
chem|styeah18:35
kimmoliäh18:35
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kimmolimoment18:35
chem|stis the pcb thin enough to have a standard toh made thinner to have it fit? that is the actual question18:36
svuorelakimmoli: btw, how accurate are the colors on tohkbd color selector thing ?18:38
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kimmolijust took some photos of few different colors18:39
kimmolichem|st: ?? pcb is 0.4mm but the oled display is thicker18:40
kimmolisvuorela: check #jollatohkbd18:42
kimmolichem|st: https://app.younited.com/?shareObject=28c45497-6bd0-df38-254b-ebd6a4402ccd18:42
svuorelakimmoli: as in twitter tag or irc channel ?18:42
kimmoliirc here in freenode18:43
kimmolisvuorela: pics >> https://app.younited.com/?shareObject=13fb072b-f680-14d8-5952-1f7f38a0e05518:43
svuorelakimmoli: want questions here or over in teh other channel ? :)18:45
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kimmolitohkbd questions in #jollatohkbd18:46
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chem|stthe igg was setup to see if they reach 2k... now they have 7k sold - royalties for exfat... less than 3 days left... how about a last sprint?19:05
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ln-i doubt the split screen feature will remain unimplemented forever even if the goal is not reached now.19:07
Stskeepsit's all about priorities19:07
chem|stln-: as I expect that I do not care about it that much... I care about that Jolla finally has enough people to update and further develop core applications19:08
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ln-that's a point19:10
chem|stall so promising stuff that jolla marketed over the past 1.5 years has shown to fall under as they do not have the manpower eg money to develop further19:10
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r0kk3rzits all empire building though, but the stock apps to need a little TLC19:12
Obi-Lansdxc would be probably harder to implement afterwards19:13
chem|stObi-Lan: ? it is a license and a driver, well a driver that is not reliable on linux iirc19:14
Obi-Lanwell you cannot print sdxc to case19:14
Obi-Lannot sure under which name they could advertise it19:14
chem|stObi-Lan: I hope they do not print anything on the case but their logo!19:14
Obi-Lansmall sdxc logo next to reader would make life of dummies easier19:15
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chem|stObi-Lan: simplistic design is one of the key features/values I like the most about jolla and sailfish19:16
Obi-Lanwell yes, but mystery slot without markings would be confusing for some19:17
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M4rtinKObi-Lan: on the other hand it would be definitely #unlike :)19:40
M4rtinKObi-Lan: #unlike slot :)19:40
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Obi-Lanhah, yes19:42
Obi-Lanput things in, see if they work19:42
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Obi-Lanbut most important thing, will netflix work on it19:45
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krkunkastajaespeak does not "convert" speech to text? only text to speech?19:49
kimmolikrkunkastaja: afaik it is TTS only19:50
krkunkastajakimmoli, is there any app to do the job?19:50
kimmolii don't know such19:51
kimmoliif there is linux libs for that, then it could be doable19:51
kimmolihttp://cmusphinx.sourceforge.net/ ?19:52
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krkunkastajai tried simon named program few months ago with ubuntu..19:53
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M4rtinKkrkunkastaja: oh, you wanted speck to text19:56
M4rtinKkrkunkastaja: sorry, I took it thw other way around :)19:57
M4rtinK*the19:57
krkunkastajaM4rtinK, np. also wanted to test that too...19:57
M4rtinKpeople used pocketsphinx back on N90019:58
M4rtinKnot sure if it has been ported to Sailfish OS yet19:58
krkunkastajai'm just looking pocketsphinx pages..19:59
kimmolihttps://github.com/cmusphinx seems there is github mirror20:00
kimmolikinda recently updated too20:00
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coderusimho you can't get good speech recognition without online google services nowadays :D20:33
coderusthere are some programs you set macroses to your voice command20:34
coderusbut it just compare your command with recorded ones and if accuracy >= thresold it trigger20:34
coderusmeans no real speech recodnition here20:35
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ReflexDarkyhello fellow jolla fans is any one out there that can help me with my problem https://together.jolla.com/question/40802/how-to-format-your-usd-card-to-btrfs-and-share-space-with-android/20:49
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coderusdid you follow guide and stuck with some problem?21:02
ReflexDarkyyes i follow the guide but still not working21:03
ReflexDarkyi think i might have deleted the mount-sd@mmcblk.service file21:04
ReflexDarkyby mistake21:04
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chem|stReflexDarky: there is no such service file, the "@" is a marker for variables, mount-sd@.service gets startet for mmcblk1 so the service shown is called mount-sd@mmcblk1.service21:10
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coderusReflexDarky: show mount output21:11
coderusand systemctl status androidsdcard.service21:12
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ReflexDarkydevtmpfs on /dev type devtmpfs (rw,relatime,size=415332k,nr_inodes=103833,mode=755)21:16
ReflexDarkynone on /proc type proc (rw,relatime)21:16
ReflexDarkynone on /sys type sysfs (rw,relatime)21:16
ReflexDarkytmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,relatime)21:16
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coderuspastebin21:17
coderusis your friend21:17
ReflexDarkywoops my bad21:17
ReflexDarkyhttp://pastebin.com/FS21Er8521:17
chem|stand if you can write up on a pastebin what you did, if possible exact commands you used in order you used them21:18
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coderus/dev/mmcblk1 on /data/media21:18
coderuslooks ok21:18
chem|stthe sdcard is missing is the issue21:19
chem|stmedia/sdcard/$uuid21:19
ReflexDarkyhttp://pastebin.com/Tr13CcVQ21:19
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ReflexDarkythats the androidsdcard.service out put21:20
ReflexDarkythe sd card is missing but it is in the phone21:20
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chem|stReflexDarky: the android part of the sdcard is mounted just fine... can you pastebin the commands you used too?21:21
chem|stwhat does "btrfs subvolume get-default /dev/mmcblk1" return?21:22
coderusbtrfs subvolume list /data/media also?21:23
ReflexDarkyhttp://pastebin.com/BAA88vc921:24
ReflexDarkythats commands i used to do this21:24
ReflexDarkyi will get the next you asked for21:24
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chem|st"chown nemo:nemo jolla/ - add -R if needed" is that really from the cmdline?21:25
ReflexDarkyno its what a copy paste21:25
ReflexDarkywas*21:26
chem|stok21:26
ReflexDarkyi follow guide21:26
ReflexDarkybut added my number 25721:26
ReflexDarkyso you see what i did21:26
ReflexDarkyhttp://pastebin.com/VWdE9XjF21:26
chem|sthow should I check if you did something wrong when you copy paste my list? check on the commandline if the history still has those lines21:27
ReflexDarkythats what the btrfs display21:27
chem|styeah think it needs to be mounted21:27
chem|sttry "btrfs subvolume get-default /data/media"21:28
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chem|stand what coderus wrote too21:28
ReflexDarkyhttp://pastebin.com/FhBNX4g321:29
chem|sthmm that looks fine...21:30
ReflexDarkyhttp://pastebin.com/QV3vf1Nv21:30
chem|stso and mount-sd@.service is missing?21:31
ReflexDarkyits not in the folder system21:31
coderusls -la /etc/systemd/system/mount-sd@.service ?21:32
ReflexDarkyhttp://pastebin.com/vSgEAQNF21:33
coderusok, its http://paste.ubuntu.com/941752021:33
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chem|stcoderus: does systemctl clear missing as "disabled" or does he need to enable it?21:36
ReflexDarkyi was just about to ask that21:37
chem|stI'd just reboot when the file is back at its place21:37
ReflexDarkyokie dokie rebooting now21:37
chem|stbut you may enable it just like in the howto21:37
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ReflexDarkyit broken still21:41
ReflexDarkyand when i try to enable it it tells me this21:41
ReflexDarkyhttp://pastebin.com/qSrGjetM21:42
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coderusit shouldn't be enabled  manually22:06
coderuschecl btrfs subvolume output again22:07
coderusyou can try to reinstall sd-utils package also22:07
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ReflexDarkyhttp://pastebin.com/2gEyNSmC22:11
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ReflexDarkyis the sd-utils the github one22:11
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coderusno idea22:13
coderusjust install it from repo22:13
coderus*reinstall22:13
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ReflexDarkywith pkcon install sd-utils in terminal22:19
coderusright22:20
ReflexDarkybahhh that does not work22:24
ReflexDarkyhe display this22:24
ReflexDarkyhttp://pastebin.com/dLb2Qp7A22:24
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coderuspkcon refresh ?22:31
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ReflexDarkyjust trying it now22:35
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ReflexDarkyi think its updating the list22:35
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chem|stkimmoli: eleven lastucases^^22:59
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kimmoli?22:59
chem|stkimmoli: headcount for referrals^^23:00
kimmoliaa23:00
chem|stseems all hits I produce have already bought one from the first link I posted^^23:00
kimmolilast time checked 1323:02
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tiwakeTeemu: https://together.jolla.com/question/63876/request-jolla-tablet-wacom-digitizer-active-pen-support/23:34
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ryukafalztiwake: digitizer TOH idea is interesting23:47
M4rtinK2ryukafalz: well, it if works :)23:48
ryukafalzheheh, fair enough :P23:48
ryukafalzthere's probably too much metal inside the tablet though23:48
M4rtinK2testing results so far are a bit discouraging23:49
M4rtinK2well actually there should be less23:49
M4rtinK2for example:23:50
M4rtinK2https://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/igi/JMDYXESeZ6nrNnOU.large23:50
M4rtinK2the electronics tends to be on the sides in tablets23:50
M4rtinK2so at least part of the screen might work23:50
ryukafalzpart of the screen working wouldn't make for a very good drawing experience though ;)23:51
M4rtinK2depending on how big part :)23:51
M4rtinK2but yeah23:51
M4rtinK2still, as you can see from the links23:51
M4rtinK2people have been building custom LCD tablets23:51
tiwakeI have a wacom digitizer thats a replacement part for an old touch-screen laptop23:52
tiwake11"23:52
ryukafalzwell, if it works it would be the most interesting TOH idea I've seen so far23:53
tiwaketoh?23:53
tiwakeoh the other half?23:53
ryukafalzyeah23:53
ryukafalzactive digitizers usually add significant cost to a device, but if you could get one as an addon...23:54
ryukafalz:)23:54
ryukafalzsince many users won't need them23:54
tiwakeif you could get one as an addon for $50, so many artists would get it23:54
M4rtinK2BTW, Wacom seems to be making custom Windows 8/Android tablets :)23:55
M4rtinK2https://store.wacom.com/us/en/product/DTHA1300H/23:55
tiwaken-trig is a good idea too23:55
M4rtinK2of course, they don't disappoint with the price :)23:55
tiwakespeaking of which23:55
tiwakehttps://together.jolla.com/question/69848/app-request-port-krita-for-sailfish-os-tablet/23:56
tiwakekrita is an amazing program23:56
M4rtinK2tiwake: I would probably be fine even with shelling out another 200% for that23:56
M4rtinK2BTW, ntrig - is it something else than a Wacom clone ?23:56
M4rtinK2some other technology that might be easier to add to an existing product ?23:57
tiwakeaccording to that guy it is23:57
ryukafalztiwake: I think Krita Gemini should run on Sailfish without significant changes23:58
tiwakehttp://www.n-trig.com/Content.aspx?Page=productssystemoverview23:58
ryukafalzactually maybe not, not sure if it supports wayland...23:58
tiwakeryukafalz: I would think that in most cases?23:58
tiwakeoh, is sailfishOS wayland?23:59
* ryukafalz nods23:59
tiwakethats cool23:59
fennekkiit's the only distro I know of with working wayland, too23:59
M4rtinK2ryukafalz: well, I'm pretty sure it is Qt 5 based ?23:59
tiwakeKDE 5 is all wayland friendly23:59
M4rtinK2ryukafalz: as it is coming from the KDE land23:59
ryukafalzM4rtinK2: It may be Qt 4, I haven't kept up with Krita23:59

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