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salyavinAny way to filter joins and parts in Weecrapp?04:17
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tiwakehexchat for me05:16
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tiwakeI dont mind them though :P05:31
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salyavinI like connectiong to a server with synced buffers like weechat.  I'm on multiple servers.  WeeCRapp shows joins/parts as new activity so all my channels are lit up all the time.  WeeCRapp is not officially released yet though.  I do like running WeeCRapp instead of the android client although the android client does great filtering etc.  but that's stable vs alpha for you.06:26
salyavinyou won't find weecrapp in openrepoes yet so not like I can complain.06:27
zuttothe w-a is very nice even on jolla06:27
salyavinw-a?06:28
zuttoweechat-android06:28
salyavinyes, it works beautifully06:28
zuttothe dev beta is great06:28
zuttoonly thing that doesnt work is the side-container06:28
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salyavinI was using it until I got around to pulling and building weeCRapp06:28
zuttobut thats due to jollas own gesture overriding that06:29
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salyavincourse I could always ssh to my session and bring up the screen session on my phone lol06:33
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zuttothat eats battery06:34
salyavinyea it would be nasty06:34
zuttow-a doesnt really eat any06:34
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salyavineats memory06:34
salyavinI can halt dalvik if native06:34
salyavinideally remove it but not there yet06:35
tiwakesalyavin: I use ZNC... you want to keep the join/parts off your screen or out of your logs?06:35
zuttoit seems to be using around 30-35 megs of ram06:36
zuttotiwake: weechat smart filter hides all the not-so-important joins/parts/quits from the buffer, but they do exist in logs06:36
zuttofor exmaple, you can configure it to show the join only if the user talks within X minutes of the joining event06:36
zuttovery handy on channels with 200-500 people06:37
tiwake*shrug* I personally like seeing everything :P06:38
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tiwakeI was just wondering what the goal was though06:38
zuttothe goal of that feature is to simply filter all the crap you dont want to see :P06:38
zuttohard to follow convos that take days if the buffers are bloated with join/part/quit/netsplit messages :P06:39
salyavinyea don't want to see it.  You can also dimm some things fron non-humans as well like certain bots06:39
tiwakeeww, I just squished a fly on my keyboard06:39
salyavinnever done that one and been using keyboards since the 70s06:40
salyavinextra points if you were typing when you did it06:40
tiwakeI have enough computers in my room that my window stays open most of the time... flies tend to get in :-/06:41
salyavinbugs fly in through open windows :P06:56
Teemumoarningu06:57
salyavinお早う06:57
salyavin朝じゃないけど06:58
Teemuthe weather is warm in here for december but i'd need several cabinets full of computers to heat so much i'd keep the windows open06:58
Teemui have no idea but i heartily welcome the future we are living where my terminal displays japanese without any trouble whatsoever06:58
salyavinYea I was thinking about that too.  Must live somewhere warm or have racks of boinc boxes06:58
Teemuit's several degrees above freezing06:59
Teemuit should be perhaps ten below for normal mid-decemberish06:59
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iekkukimmoli, ping pong. task was done already yesterday :)07:08
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Nicd-salyavin: thanks for trying it :) remember to report any issues (though missing features are to be expected at this point)07:15
Nicd-on that note, I should probably rename it now before any more people start using it07:15
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Teemucreewap - hanging like a lit moose?07:21
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Nicd-of course I'd like to combine the idea of a relay with something ocean-related like sailfish usually has. but can't think of anything07:27
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Teemukuopio has a harbour and there are moose in kuopio07:29
Nicd-what does moose have to do with this?07:29
Teemu:D07:29
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Teemunot very much07:31
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tiwakeoh gosh I should go to sleep07:32
tiwakelaying here in bed on laptop... I kinda jerked awake from a half doze, and typed a bunch of stuff on accident07:33
Teemutiwake: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZ_90920Zbg for sleepy dreams07:33
tiwakeTeemu: heh, and hit a chrome spot and burn off some face hair07:34
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Teemuthat will be a valuable lesson07:36
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TemeVNow that you're naming apps, you could come up a name for Telegram app :)07:39
Nicd-maybe I'll name it Mormyrid. a family of fish that use electric fields to communicate. also a suitably nonspecific name that doesn't say anything like all open source projects should have07:40
TemeVseems legit07:41
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Teemuoh like mine: ell-i07:43
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TemeVhmm... I could use an anagram07:45
TemeVMr Legate :)07:45
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TemeVEat leg Mr07:46
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TemeVAlert gem07:47
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Teemusadly english is not written in a concise and phonetic manner so the whole language has no concept of sanan muunnos07:48
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kimmoliiekku: oong, succesfull install was reported too07:59
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iekkukimmoli, :)08:04
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kimmolithanks (pass forward if needed)08:05
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salyavinThanks for the software Nicd-   no bugs run into yet just missing features. How on earth did you get Vincit to sponsor it?08:15
salyavinYou work there and they let you work on it during work time sometimes?08:16
Nicd-I work at Vincit and they sponsor open source projects made on free time08:16
salyavinAwesome08:16
tbrthey seem to be nice, two of my friends just went there08:17
salyavinnaming can be difficult.08:18
Nicd-naming is the hardest part08:18
tbrlet the bike-shedding begin!08:18
salyavinthe current name can be rather amusing.08:19
Nicd-but it's too immature :)08:19
salyavinyea contains both wee and crap08:19
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Nicd-I'll name it Mormyrid unless someone comes up with a better name08:22
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salyavinYou probably won't have to worry about more than double digit users until you feel ready to release it in openrepos08:23
Nicd-I might not release it on openrepos at all08:24
salyavinstraight to harbour? Or don't think it'll ever be mature enough?08:24
Nicd-probably app store and bitbucket08:25
salyavinharbour (app store) has the largest user reach for sure08:25
Teemuhahaha mössö08:26
TemeVI think openrepos is only good for stuff that can't be accepted to harbour08:27
TemeVno reason to have the sw in both08:27
salyavinmake sense.08:27
salyavinI'm still feeling a little burned by Noka like we're losing Ovi store for Harmattan apps shortly.08:28
TemeVjust make a script that downloads evrything from there :)08:29
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TemeVthen you don't need it anymore08:29
Nicd-Teemu: http://kuvat2.huuto.net/b/32/aeacc76974a7f9435fc96fe08c9ce-orig.jpg08:29
salyavinOvi store is about gone so we have to yea08:29
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lainwir3dhi o/08:56
daithefluhi !08:57
SK_workmorning08:59
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zuttohmh09:25
zuttojust walked past dillion09:25
ln-is it something similar to walking past dillon?09:26
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zuttoi cant type properly :P09:27
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zuttoalways fun to see him walking around near the hq09:28
warfare /bu1209:33
warfaresorry.09:33
AL13N_work?09:34
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chem|stevery second time I want to upload a picture, the account is gone, how do people who actually use these things on a day2day basis work with that?09:39
zuttohmh?09:40
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chem|sttablet main purpose is "be online" how should that work without proper msging, accounts, browser? (I know the browser is open but I want to feel $user sometimes)09:42
chem|stzutto: facebook is gone, again09:42
zuttooh09:42
zuttoi havent used facebook since the early beta years ago, i cant really say anything to that09:42
ggabrielchem|st: you have the tablet already?09:42
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chem|stggabriel: yes and my phone runs 3.1.3.29 Orivesi09:45
ggabriel:)09:45
ggabrielthat's why i can't reproduce then ;)09:45
chem|stggabriel: sfos is sfos no matter what device, and the core apps suck, not as good as your mom but they suck!09:45
ggabrielclearly you're feeling $user09:46
chem|stggabriel: once in a while I try to look up from my terminal... and I am forced to look back down, every single fscking time09:47
chem|stand I get so pissed by those android windows ios missionaries that I start to shout at them and become a missionary my self!09:48
chem|stthat is the part I actually hate about it09:48
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ggabrielfwiw, i fiddled with my accounts and they don't work 100%09:48
ggabrieli guess qa doesn't take "fiddling" into consideration09:49
ggabrielbut then again, i have a terminal and i can fix09:49
ggabrielsadly, it's a genuine bug if you start from scratch with dev mode off09:49
ggabrielelse it's an edge case09:49
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chem|stggabriel: I did nothing to the accounts10:00
chem|stI just tried to upload a picture of my dog to my gf and the FB share entry was missing again10:00
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chem|stggabriel: re-auth usually helps...10:02
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chem|stand it did help... makes me wonder what they changed from meego days as my n9 has its accounts ever since I set them up10:03
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SK_workchem|st: compared to N9, it is simple: Nokia have special auth API for Facebook, SailfishOS uses the token (with tedious token management stuff)10:39
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RavenholmDXis Facebook still broken on 1.10?10:40
RavenholmDX(Or at least, I heard it was)10:40
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stephgRavenholmDX: works for me?10:41
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chem|stSK_work: why would you change that...10:47
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chem|stRavenholmDX: broken? no resetting the auth token, it just did...10:47
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SK_workchem|st: because Nokia have exclusive links with FB10:51
SK_workthey have right to use the API10:51
chem|stSK_work: nvm FB is dumb...10:51
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SK_workgraph API 2.0 is even worse10:52
SK_work:/10:52
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RavenholmDXchem|st, so if I update to 1.10, I just need to re-login to FB?10:52
chem|stRavenholmDX: frequently (I cannot tell how often that resets but it does sometimes)10:54
locusfSK_work: could you please do another run of the rpm data list I gave you, but also include github.com/sailfish* repositories in the list?10:55
chem|stprobably it does for me as I do not use anything but the upload function and that so rarely that the token times out10:55
SK_workchem|st: it can be10:55
SK_workbut the token times out every month10:55
SK_worklocusf: hum I can check10:56
SK_worklocusf: ping me in the afternoon10:56
SK_workI'm busy now10:56
locusfSK_work: sure, thanks :)10:56
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cvp_hi \o11:41
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chem|stSK_work: I use it <30 days so the token does not renew when connecting12:22
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Nicd-just got an email from younited. "sharing just got a bit easier"15:12
Nicd-... all the while the younited app is unusable because it crashes on startup15:12
tadzikheh, I didn't have the patience to go through the in-app registration15:13
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mornfallyeah, support from 3rd parties is a bit unedrwhelming15:18
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mornfallit's what, Thursday? when was the deadline for update 10 if it were to happen this year?15:22
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Raimmornfall: deadline for this year would be December 31 ;-)15:24
tadzikthey said "week before christmas" iirc15:25
locusfSK_work: afternoon ping15:25
SK_worklocusf: still busy. Thought that afternoon would be around 6pm15:26
SK_work(we are sharing the same timezone right ? 4:26 pm here)15:26
ggabrielmornfall: We really hope to release before Christmas, though in the event we are unable to accomplish the improvements stated above by the end of next week (=1 week before Christmas holidays begin), we will not release update10 during December.15:26
locusfSK_work: 5:26 here :)15:26
ggabrielhttps://together.jolla.com/question/68125/official-announcement-current-status-of-update10/15:26
locusfSK_work: but anyways, lets see in 1,5 hours again15:26
locusftheres no rush really15:26
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mornfallggabriel: ah, end of next week, ok15:28
mornfallthat's edgy :-)15:28
mornfallend of next week means 2 business days for hotfixes15:28
SK_worklocusf: thanks15:29
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mornfallRaim: there are holidays to account for, obviously15:29
SK_workit's a bit rushy here though: work, more work !15:29
SK_work:D15:29
mornfallSK_work: do you work in retail or what? :P15:30
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SK_workno, just that the deadline is close :)15:32
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anYchm, I send back my jolla because the phone speaker "distorts" the high frequencies of a voice and the problem still persists after the speaker has been changed. Has anyone experienced the same distortion?15:42
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anYcOther question: how high did you set the volume of your phone speaker (0-100%)? I had to set it to ~40% to reduce the distortions.15:52
ggabrielanYc: haven't experienced that myself tbh15:52
anYccould you tell me on which level you set the volume approximately?15:55
ggabrieli have set it up to max at some point15:56
ggabrielcurrently is a bit over 50%15:57
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anYcokay thanks! so I'm not kind of "overdriving" the speaker15:57
junnuvii use mostly at 100% and no problems with sound quality15:59
junnuvibut i had similar problems some time ago. There was tiny metallic part inside speaker. Cleared spaker with powerful magnet16:00
anYchm, good idea16:02
anYcnow I have to find a magnet... :)16:03
junnuviif you have old harddisk, there is quite powerful magnets inside16:03
junnuviand good idea is to place something between magnet and phone. Like couple of layers toilet paper..16:04
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Plnthttp://techcrunch.com/2014/12/11/jolla-series-b/16:09
fluxI wonder if that's enough for a year16:10
fluxbut as in the article, I need to give it to Jolla that they actually got something out and super fast, compared to say, Tizen ;-)16:11
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fluxapparently there has been some funding from the Finnish technogloy development enhancement foundation Tekes, but I do wonder if that source has dried up for Jolla16:13
Morpog_PC__aaand there it is: https://twitter.com/Morpog/status/543075993272193024/photo/116:17
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ggabrielnice16:19
ggabrielwhere's mine16:19
ggabrieli want my battery16:19
anYcjunnuvi: I'll try it. thank you!16:20
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BraceI'm probably in a minority here, but is anyone else sad enough to play Clash of the Clans as well?  As the update doesn't seem to work (just keep getting told to update)16:32
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SK_worklocusf: run done16:36
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locusfSK_work: ok thanks :)16:36
SK_worklocusf: some friends like browser got sourced correctly16:36
locusfSK_work: yeah seems like that, excellent job :)16:38
SK_workI would like to have some time to do the git.merproject.org > wiki bridging16:38
SK_workbut didn't worked on that16:38
locusfSK_work: you might wanna sync with stephg on that, he did a complete clone of git.merproject.org and is doing something similar16:39
SK_workyeah16:39
SK_workI'm waiting what stephg dumps16:39
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locusfah good :)16:39
SK_workbtw, stephg if you are around, if you can provide me any listing containing basically name of package / subpackages + url in gitlab, it would be enough16:40
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dunpsory finish link but bittiraha.fi will add jolla if https://www.facebook.com/bittiraha?fref=nf21:18
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knihtiwhat?21:29
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zetazHi. I know that I am not alone to have received a mail saying "there’s been a slight delay with your order dispatch"22:24
zetazdoes anyone know what is the time frame for the soon in "Your order will soon be on its way" ?22:25
zetazare we talking days, weeks, monthes ?22:25
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stephgblimey the batteries were quick22:36
stephgSK_work: ping22:37
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stephgSK_work: locusf I'll catch you both in the morning22:41
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