#jollamobile log for Tuesday, 2014-12-23

stoftstill running after 20mins of upgrading. I'm guessing the original problem was I was too impatient and tried to restart it before it was complete. In my defense it had been running for quite some time already (guesstimate 30mins).00:03
aard_stoft: no progress bar?00:04
stoftprogress bar was "done" I think, wasn't keeping a close eye on it, screen was black, no effect when pressing power button quickly.00:06
fennekkistoft: could it have been the out-of-space problem?00:06
stoftfennekki, possible but not probable, had 4GB free when I started00:06
fennekkiHmm, yeah, sounds unlikely00:06
fennekkiunless btrfs00:06
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stoftstill updating...00:27
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phaeronstoft: are you watching the command line ?00:35
fennekkiUh, what. This thing downloaded the update, at least partially, and then... lost it. and now I have to re-download. Awwwww00:36
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fennekki...I hope the download works. It seems to be stuck again, though it's hard to say since it took a while to start up last time as well00:38
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stoftphaeron, yes, complete now. rebooting.00:39
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fennekkiI s2g if this download is broken again I will punch things00:40
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stoftstill no good :( black screen after reboot. ssh still works00:43
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stoftrunning version --dup again, getting an error in the beginning "Store credentials not received..."00:49
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fennekki aaand my download is broken again00:52
fennekki...00:52
stoftstore credentials failed to fetch a second time but now update is running again. apparently everything wasn't in place yet...00:54
stoftand now my screen lit up with my background pic. :) tiny steps00:55
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fennekkihm, if it started working for you, maybe it'll work for me now as well00:58
fennekkiperhaps the store credential thing is a server-side issue00:58
stoftthere, all packages now installed.00:59
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stoftfennekki, possible cause could also be local net connectivty. I have a fast ISP but stability can be shaky00:59
fennekkicould be but it's not working on wifi (which I'm using on this laptop as well) OR mobile01:01
fennekkibesides, it only started working after... something01:02
fennekkiand this particular issue apparently only affects 1.0.2.5 -> 1.1, or so I was told01:03
fennekkioh, hey, it did something01:03
fennekki...well, canceled the download, but that's still01:03
fennekkia thing01:03
stoftand phone now boots and shows GUI correctly! :D01:04
stoftmy guess to root cause is really slow update, with possible failures in getting certain packages, possibly in combination with user impatiently rebooting before completion.01:06
fennekkiI have no idea what's causing my problem01:06
fennekkisince this01:06
fennekkiworked01:07
fennekkionce01:07
fennekkiand now it stopped working again01:07
stoftaard_, thanks for the help!01:07
fennekki...maybe I should talk about it to the same guy01:07
stoftalso, phaeron , fennekki thanks for the support. fennekki , good luck!01:10
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fennekkithanks01:12
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fennekkiI01:22
fennekkiI've been doing this all evening and all night what the hell is wrong WHERE is the issue is what I'm wondering01:22
fennekki'cause I know there was something wrong with the initial update: Fair enough01:22
fennekkibut this? It just makes no sense, especially not since the download *did work*, once. Rebooting doesn't help. Up until now, factory resets haven't helped so I'm presuming they won't now, either.01:23
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tiwakevodka and applejuice03:07
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pdanekGood morning,03:31
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pdanekDoes update 10 fix Moscow timezone issue?03:31
pdanekJolla still thinks Moscow is UTC +4, but it's UTC +3 since late October 2014.03:31
pdanekBut I didn't update yet.03:32
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pdanek1Once I downloaded the update, can I update offline? During the flight?04:48
pdanek1Flying seems as a good option to update. :D04:48
pdanek1Because off anyway.04:48
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Miskiis anyone else having trouble installing Maps from Jolla store on u10? It just says "Waiting" for a while and then there's a system notification about a failed install05:48
mordanyone else seeing oom killer going crazy? having just the browser running (idling) leads usually to a reboot, sometimes to this weird state with a rapid blue-green led blink. btrfs has room to breathe.05:52
mordwith 1.1.1.27, that is05:52
mordrelevant dmesg: http://pastie.org/private/oc4mcxbdqlylazqsqpwg   journal:  http://pastie.org/private/9qswvx25fxjtwoks7lrpea05:53
mordkilling systemd-udevd and systemd-cgroups sounds a bit harsh05:55
specialStskeeps: ^05:56
mordah, starting /anything/ can lead to that, just got similar results with only fingerterm running05:58
mordupdated from uitukka, if that makes a difference05:58
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mordunfortunately i don't have room to keep this setup around as snapshot for debugging purposes and will have to do a factory reset soon as this is my everyday phone, so if any extra info is needed, please ask soon06:18
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mordah, turns out i don't actually have to have any apps running, just idling the device after a boot angered oom --> ui freeze --> reboot06:20
specialcan you see what's using so much memory?06:22
tbrmord: anything growing suspiciously large if you look at top?06:22
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Waiteeat least contactsd doesnt take up 40% of memory anymore06:23
Waiteewas rather annoying06:23
mordtbr: not really, except maybe browser being 30% RES with just one tab06:26
mordothers seem to behave06:26
mordnothing seems to leak massively06:26
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salyavinu10 seems really agressive at killing processes to me as well.  Sometimes it kills all my user apps.  Randomly tweetian or tt-rss or gpodder.  Always responsive unlike u9 which was less agressive but when it got too look may go a few seconds unresponsive.06:55
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tiwakedid you guys know whiskey is magic?06:55
salyavinguess next phone should have at least 2G RAM06:55
salyavinhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVKYuQaiZ8M tiwake06:57
tiwakelol06:59
tiwakeno, I poured it myself... its magic06:59
tiwakeI know because I can feel the magic06:59
tiwakeXD06:59
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salyavinThey say it'll put color in your cheeks, they forgot to say what color or which cheeks.07:14
tiwakeha07:14
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juicememorning all o/07:18
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mordyep, i've now been just letting the device sit and after a while it kills systemd-udevd, then propmptly reboots07:27
mord*promptly07:27
japa-fiRef: all these oom discussion on the channel: Are you referring to the latest system update, or are you running some special version of phone/software?07:29
japa-fiIe. am I likely to get issues as I just updated my dads phone07:29
japa-fiand don't reply with: "No, you are not going to get any calls from you dad. Whaahahhahaaa" :)07:30
salyavinMy phone doesn't do that it just kills all open apps07:31
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mordjapa-fi: 1.1.1.2707:36
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mordjust rebooted without me even unlocking/entering pin; i'll grab a journal + dmesg for the idle reboot and then am going to have to reset07:37
japa-fiyah, vaarainjärvi07:38
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mcfrisksaw weird stuff on clock app timers today. Stopping timer didn't work, touching anywhere in the app didn't work. Had to swipe out and back to the app, and suddenly things worked again.07:49
mdxthmcfrisk, I had the same with all apps. Reboot helped :)07:50
japa-fiwhere can you see the journal?07:52
japa-fiI would like to check if my phone has experienced OOMs. no sign of that in dmesg07:52
mcfriskmdxth: I had only problems with the clock app07:52
mdxthmcfrisk, I with people and call apps. Had to make a call and did not have that much time to play so just rebooted07:53
mcfriskfeels like u10 brought this and several other studders into my jolla. Compared to u8 I can't see that much improvements in daily use.07:54
pahartikjapa-fi: "journalctl"07:54
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mcfriskdid the browser loose tab caching in u10?!? it seems switching to tabs causes full reloads again, damit...07:59
mcfriskyes it did, now I'm disappointed..08:00
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salyavinu9 they had responsiveness issues when in low memory , that is probably related to such behavior in u1008:04
mcfriskHow to re-open a tjc issue which has been marked as released?08:05
salyavinu10 always responds well for me though08:05
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mordhere's the tail of a dmesg of boot -> (do nothing) -> stuck at blue strobo: http://pastie.org/979552108:17
mordwell, "do nothing" includes a ssh login08:20
juiceme/usr/local/Cavium_Networks/OCTEON-SDK/tools/bin08:20
juicemeuups sorry wrong window :(08:21
pahartikjuiceme: MIPS is good08:27
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gogetajuiceme, nice things08:36
juicemejust mistakenly pasted it here...08:38
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Teguyea, just had my first "all applications get killed" experience09:02
Morpog_PCbefore you all panic about oom killer, give it a day or two, it somehow got alot better here09:06
mordMorpog_PC: couldn't, really, as the device was unusable; but i seem to have been bitten harder than most -- i'm starting to think maybe something went wrong in updating from 1.1.0.39 to 1.1.1.27 (skipping 1.1.1.26)09:08
Morpog_PCor your btrfs space was fully allocated09:08
Morpog_PC*is09:09
mordMorpog_PC: nope, 4,9GB taking up some 9GB of 13,709:09
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Morpog_PCah ok09:09
mordthat was the first thing i checked (and did a bit of cleanup + balancing)09:09
Morpog_PCbecause that made me alot of struglle in U9 before I found out09:09
mordyeah that's definitely something to keep an eye on09:10
* gexc just bricked my collegues new phone LOL09:10
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gexclooks like https://together.jolla.com/question/63338/bug-screen-stays-black-after-reboot/09:11
mordbut lessee, just did a reset + am updating now to 1.1.27, should help determine whether something in my update path could have been the culprit09:11
* gexc turned on developer mode while the system is still 1.0.409:11
xfade_gexc: Did you enable ssh?09:12
gexcyes09:12
xfade_can you try to connect to it?09:12
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gexcssh still works, lucky09:12
gexcshould I try to downgrade first?09:12
xfade_no!09:12
xfade_Can you try to version --dup?09:12
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TMavica_Jollai got a message 'Your subscriptionhas 2.32 euro and it ends at 24.3.1509:14
mekluoh, you're in .fi now? :O09:14
mekluneat09:14
TMavica_Jollaseem it cant be used after to 0 euro09:14
TMavica_Jollameklu: yes. said long time09:15
TMavica_JollaI am going to Kemi to look for snowcastle now09:15
mekluI think you can put some more credit on it if you go to one of the places you can get those from09:15
TMavica_Jollaso i need buy the credit from shop?09:15
gexcxfade_: Device release is currently: 1.1.1.2709:16
juicemeTMavica_Jolla, have you sent more SMS'es or so...?09:16
TMavica_Jollait said umlimited..got fake09:16
xfade_gexc: did it install any new packages?09:16
TMavica_Jollajuiceme: no09:16
mekluo.o09:16
gexcxfade_: not yet09:16
juicemethe credit should not run out on internet usage09:16
gexcxfade_: version --dup seems still in queue09:16
TMavica_Jollabut i saw it dropping. after my jolla screen on, it pop up a large screen09:17
juicemedid you go&ask about it on Elisa shop?09:17
gexcxfade_: should I do the upgrading in ssh?09:17
xfade_gexc: pkill store-client09:17
TMavica_Jollajuiceme: not yey09:17
TMavica_Jollayet09:17
juicemeokay09:17
xfade_gexc: that is your only chance of getting it back09:17
xfade_gexc: well and doing rescue mode, but that is more painful09:17
TMavica_Jollai think i cant ask..i on the way to Kemi, back to Rovaniemi tonight..09:17
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TMavica_Jollause whatsapp only09:18
vishapafter os upgrade meecast has no control when "minimized" on home screen. however other apps seem to have control over covers.09:19
gexcxfade_: I'll try then LOL09:19
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xfade_gexc: If it is the issue I think it is, then we should be able to fix it in a few commands. But let's see.09:20
juicemeTMavica_Jolla, does not whatsapp use SMS for identification or something?09:20
gexcxfade_: version --dup is still refreshing09:20
TMavica_Jollajucieme: no09:21
xfade_gexc: depends on the number of repositories. If you went crazy on the openrepos, then it will take a while :)09:21
Morpog_PCvishap, works here09:21
gexcxfade_: fresh device :)09:21
TMavica_Jollajuiceme: i off train later talk, damn cold09:23
gexcxfade_: version --dup says it's downloading upgrade09:24
gexcxfade_: looks good?09:24
xfade_gexc: yeah, just let it run.09:24
gexcxfade_: :D09:24
xfade_It will tell you which packages it is downloading09:25
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gexccould just "tunring-on" dev mode brick the phone?09:30
xfade_no09:30
gexchmm...09:30
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xfade_But older os versions could apply partial os updates when downloading was interrupted.09:31
gexcafter dev mode is on, the terminal it installed cannot be opened09:32
xfade_gexc: did version --dup finish?09:32
gexcjust 9%09:32
Morpog_PCmaybe btrfs fully allocated?09:32
xfade_Don't do anything until it is done, you don't want to make things worse09:32
gexcthe situation in China is that the ISP blocks jolla repository09:33
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gexcso I need to get a global proxy running before doing upgrade, thus the dev mode09:33
Morpog_PCoh, ok, so downloading could take alot of time?09:34
xfade_gexc: Hmm it works for our testers in china?09:34
gexcdepends on ISP09:34
xfade_Awesome ;)09:34
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gexcfine for china unicom, but not for china telecom09:34
gexcchina telecom is the landline broadband provider09:35
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gexcit's the amazonn cloud that's blocked09:35
gexcgood job09:35
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mekluwell ain't that just great ._.09:36
mekluseems rather silly to block that wide a segment09:36
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xfade_gexc: for next time, when you long press on your wifi connection in settings, system-> wlan, you can enter proxy details.09:37
gexclol09:40
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gexcmaybe the safest approach is to get a unicom sim with a hugh data plan for sys upgrade09:42
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xfade_gexc: or go sit in some hotel lobby ;)09:44
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gexcblocking out the BIG players would help local companys, hmm...splendid idea09:44
gexcxfade_: that would depend on the ISP the hotel is using09:44
mordokay so seem to work a lot better after reset + updates ; starting to think something went awry during the updates09:44
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gexcor maybe set up a transparent proxy in wlan...09:45
gexctransparent router09:45
ggabrielmord: but isn't that the case for, well, every other mobile os out there? :)09:45
mordggabriel: sure, i had just already gotten used to the OTA updates just working ;)09:45
ggabrieli can guarantee my android will never suffer that though09:46
ggabrielgoogle wants me to accept something i always decline and i can't get any more updates :P09:46
MikeHG_Hi, does anyone know which directory to put a picture in so whatsapp running through alien dalvik can attach it to a message? Tried all the obvikjs09:46
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MikeHG_*obvious looking ones, no dice. Thanks.09:47
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aard_pdanek1: u10 has updated timezone descriptions, though if you have automatic time updates enabled they don't matter -- then you'll get the timezone _offset_ in the NITZ data from the operator, and the russian operator seem to struggle a lot with fixing those. I noticed in november in russia that in some cases even different timezone offsets are announced in different cells of the same provider09:54
xfade_MikeHG_: It just needs to be visible in your gallery09:54
xfade_MikeHG_: so put it in Pictures for instances.09:54
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MikeHG_xfade_: Thanks - I must be doing something very wrong still, but no experience with alien dalvik or whatsapp so no surprise there. I'll keep experimenting...09:58
ggabrielMikeHG_: but can you see the pic in gallery? if not, then maybe you need to give tracker a kick10:00
ggabriel(keyword: maybe :-) )10:00
MikeHG_I can see the picture in Sailfish gallery, not tested on other A/D side stuff. How do I kick tracker? systemd service or something? Thanks10:02
ggabrielif you can see it, then tracker is working ok10:03
ggabrielMikeHG_: https://together.jolla.com/question/4337/refresh-tracker/10:03
coderusSailfishOS Eventsview controls remastered patch released for 1.1.1.27: https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/patch-eventsview-controls-one-row-volume10:05
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gexcdownloading upgrade seems to stuck at 27% :-/10:07
Morpog_PChmmm, sounds like fully allocated btrfs10:08
gexcis it safe to cancel it and do it again?10:08
gexcbut it's a new device10:08
gexcbarely used10:08
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gexcbad network perhaps?10:10
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Morpog_PCcould also be10:12
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Morpog_PCif it's still downlaoding it should be pretty safe to cancel with ctrl+c10:13
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gexc:)10:13
* gexc doing it again10:13
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xfade_gexc: some packages are 50MB or so, so it will take a while on slow connections.10:14
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gexcxfade_: maybe I'll get some bandwidth monitoring tool up first10:16
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xfade_gexc: if you really think it stalled. You can just ctrl-c it and start it again.10:18
xfade_gexc: But probably you need to be patient ;)10:18
gexclol10:18
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gexcslow network indeed10:18
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xfade_gexc: Yeah, it is pretty strange to see a country which has such advanced technology, struggle with basic internet traffic :(10:19
gexcworld-leading technology for blocking internet LOL10:20
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gexcwe've got masters and phds working on those 'projects'10:21
gexcversion --dup throws a fatal error: Installation aborted by user10:23
gexcand tells me to REBOOT?10:23
xfade_gexc: don't yet.10:23
xfade_gexc: just run it again10:23
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gexcdare not :)10:23
xfade_gexc: only do it when it reaches 100% ;)10:23
xfade_packagekit has this nice bug where it reports aborted by user while there actually was a network error.10:24
gexcyep10:24
gexcAll bugs you encounter until reboot are features unless you meet one of the10:24
gexccriteria from the previous sentence.10:25
gexclooks nice ;-)10:25
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gexcxfade_: got that Installation aborted by user error again10:44
gexcxfade_: also while refreshing there is err message about some repos10:45
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gexchttp://pastebin.com/jKbSCsE110:46
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xfade_gexc: Looks like network issues.10:48
gexclol10:50
SK_worklooks like dbus complaining ?10:51
SK_workThis > Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.10:51
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SK_workis a typical DBus message10:51
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gexcthe proxy should work, just checked with curl11:04
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Morpog_PCtimeouts could be llikely, given the response times are worse11:05
Morpog_PChave you tried a ping to jolla repos?11:05
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gexcjolla repo is blocked here so not ping-able11:07
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gexchowever I can use curl to access the repo, got unauthorized error11:11
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gexcthe proxy should be working11:11
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gexcreboot maybe?11:13
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xfade_gexc: you probably don't get the credentials from ssud.11:16
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Morpog_PCprobably a proxy on the wifi itself would be good11:16
Morpog_PCuse network via usb11:16
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Morpog_PCso you don't have to set proxy on device11:17
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detlev__FYI, wen te device breaks with the latest update and you recover to pre 1.0.3.8, there is a solution.11:18
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detlev__after factory reset, recovery is useless, use coderus image to extract boot/recovery.img (v0.2.7)11:19
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detlev__activate jolla account, internet connection and developper mode (DO NO REBOOT now), activate ssh login11:20
gexcstill looks like network issue11:20
detlev__through ssh, if it works (if not, reset to factory and start again), copy recovery.img and dd it to partition 2111:21
detlev__extract coderus image to a big enough sd card (formatted as ext4)11:22
detlev__boot in recovery and dd it to partition 2011:22
detlev__(if you do not have a 16 GB SD card, copy te compressed image to /home/nemo and, in recovery, create a ramfs of 500MB, copy te compressed image there, umount p28, tar xOf /mnt/tmpfs/factory.tar.gz | dd of=/dev/mmcblk0p28 bs=4M)11:25
gexcmaybe I'll use that for a last resort :-/11:26
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coderusSailfishOS Eventsview control patch updated to show multiple rows of switches: https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/patch-eventsview-controls-switcher-rows-volume11:36
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gexcxfade_: ssud says [F] Ssud::Ssud:22 - Cannot register D-Bus service at org.nemo.ssu11:40
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detlev__gexc: that was my last resort ^^11:45
gexclol11:45
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aard_gexc: do you have store credentials in /etc/ssu/ssu.ini?11:49
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gexcaard_: if you mean [credentials-store], then yes11:50
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gexcthere is a password and username11:50
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aard_gexc: can you try version --dup again, and check if all repos (including xt9) throw no error or just the dbus error?11:52
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gexcaard_: running pkcon refresh now :)11:54
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gexcaard_: still the same error, unfortunately http://pastebin.com/jKbSCsE111:57
gexcit seems xt9 repo throws an error, others look like dbus11:58
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aard_gexc: do you have a file /tmp/ssu.log?12:03
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AL13N_jolla_also, a question, now that we have maps overlays... wasn't there a traffic overlay?12:26
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merlin1991Hm sattelite car and trabsit modes in maps, how to activate? :D12:32
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AL13N_jolla_if you press on some location, you can change it on the bottom12:34
AL13N_jolla_but, for some reason, my maps app wasn't updated12:35
AL13N_jolla_i had to manually update it.12:36
phaeronmaps app is store app, needs to be updated separately12:36
merlin1991Hm seems to be the same case here12:36
AL13N_jolla_phaeron: what i mean is, it wasn't in the updates12:36
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AL13N_jolla_if i went to my apps, it wasn't there12:37
phaeronhm12:37
merlin1991Yep same here, in the store under my apps maps aren't there12:37
AL13N_jolla_i noted this on the update page in tjc12:37
AL13N_jolla_merlin1991: find the app and choose update there.12:38
AL13N_jolla_maybe because i never did update all apps.12:39
merlin1991And if i go to apps->jolla in the store it has a download not installed sign on the icon...12:39
AL13N_jolla_yes, me tii12:39
AL13N_jolla_toi12:39
AL13N_jolla_argh12:39
AL13N_jolla_too12:39
AL13N_jolla_phaeron: it wasn't for you?12:39
tadzikcoderus: is the mazelock supposed to work with uLatest?12:39
phaeronI am not a good comparison here :)12:40
tadzikpatchmanager is acting funny with it12:40
AL13N_jolla_heh12:40
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phaeronAL13N_jolla_: I wonder how you installed sailfish-maps in the first place if it is not in your my apps12:40
phaeronis that what you are saying ?12:40
AL13N_jolla_i installed it in the very beginning12:40
AL13N_jolla_ah wait, i had a reset12:41
AL13N_jolla_i think i installed it in 4 or 512:42
AL13N_jolla_and i came from 812:42
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AL13N_jolla_phaeron: but nothing special12:42
AL13N_jolla_merlin1991: how did you install it?12:43
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merlin1991In 4 or so via store client12:44
merlin1991And i also came from 812:44
AL13N_jolla_ah like me12:44
phaeronAL13N_jolla_: the apps are supposed to be recorded server side12:44
AL13N_jolla_phaeron: maybe not in 4?12:44
merlin1991Damn i want the new sdk already, salmeta currently doesn't work for me ...12:46
AL13N_jolla_jan 5th, or so i hear12:46
AL13N_jolla_may updates could be rolled out to app devs in advance, so they can fix the app?12:47
AL13N_jolla_btw, i read about vkb handwriting... is that only for chinese?12:49
tbryes12:49
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AL13N_jolla_too bad... but not as important as, say traffic overlay on maps12:50
* tbr wouldn't mind if someone would create a psion inspired glyph input method for maliit, it's open sauce and all that12:50
AL13N_jolla_it's only a cool thing, nit that usable12:50
phaeronAL13N_jolla_: the opt in was supposed to be that12:51
AL13N_jolla_tbr: good idea, someone out there has to be nuts enough12:51
Morpog_PCAL13N_jolla_, the opt-in sdk is already enough for apps in u1012:51
AL13N_jolla_ok, good then12:51
AL13N_jolla_merlin1991: too bad for you:)12:52
tbrmerlin1991: there is an obs target for U10, you can build it against that12:53
AL13N_jolla_anyway, good update, gonna see if wifi is better now12:53
AL13N_jolla_so far it looks good12:53
AL13N_jolla_even 1 bar seems to work nicely now.12:54
AL13N_jolla_battery life seems improved too12:54
AL13N_jolla_browsing still gets a bit hot though12:55
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AL13N_jolla_but possibly better.12:55
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AL13N_jolla_i like the tech blog thing12:56
phaeronmerlin1991: did you install it already ?12:56
AL13N_jolla_tbr: you will have to blog too at some point :)12:57
AL13N_jolla_maybe something about people's complaints and how to fix these in mer12:58
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AL13N_jolla_with some various examples, like the handwritung for maliit12:58
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AL13N_jolla_this phone is really nice, you can sit on the toilet, taking a leak, and still be social and do stuff.13:01
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anonfriese_uhm yeah... didn't need to know that i guess ;)13:01
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fennekkihmm, can I just copy commhistory.db in while the phone is running to restore my messages?13:02
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phaeronfennekki: were you able to update finally ?13:03
fennekkiphaeron: yeah, it worked13:03
phaeronfinally :)13:03
Morpog_PCcopying whole old databases over new ones doesn't sound sane13:03
fennekkiMorpog_PC: the new one is perfectly empty, though13:04
fennekkiand I13:04
fennekkiwould assume13:04
fennekkithe schema hasn't changed13:04
Morpog_PCsure about that?13:04
fennekkiabout which one?13:05
Morpog_PCthat schema hasn't changed13:05
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fennekkiNo13:06
fennekkiI haven't checked13:06
ggabrielfennekki: pastebin the new schema13:06
ggabrieli still have u813:06
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WaRiOhello13:07
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fennekkiwell, I have the old schema here as well but let's see13:07
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fennekkiWaRiO: did you try updating, it worked for me eventually13:07
ggabrielfennekki: truesay :)13:07
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WaRi0fennekki YES13:07
WaRi0TODAY the updtae works13:07
WaRi0but13:07
WaRi0its take 5-10 mins to download13:07
WaRi0where is the 2gb ?13:08
WaRi0i think is only 250 mb13:08
ggabriel2gb is required to uncompress etc13:08
phaeronWaRi0: the update can take upto 2Gb to install13:08
phaeronnot to download13:08
ggabriellike pkunzip update.zip13:08
ggabriel;)13:08
WaRi0yes but i cant install13:08
TMavica_Jollawill i get kicked of the train, if my ticket is not that time ticket? i mean in finland train13:08
WaRi0maze lock13:08
WaRi0by patch manager13:08
WaRi0show me error13:08
tbrTMavica_Jolla: you will need to buy a new ticket at full price in the worst case13:09
WaRi0its thats an update prob?13:09
tbrTMavica_Jolla: I've seen that happen13:09
tbrTMavica_Jolla: unless your ticket allows for rescheduling13:09
TMavica_Jollagod..13:09
fennekkihow'd you miss your train anywya13:09
fennekkiway*13:09
tbrTMavica_Jolla: have that checked at the departure station, there would be a 5 or 10€ rebooking fee13:09
TMavica_Jollano. i want early leave from Kemi13:10
fennekkiah13:10
TMavica_Jollato back Rov13:10
tbrgo to the station, ask13:10
TMavica_Jollamy ticket is 1830..13:10
TMavica_Jollano staff in kemi station13:10
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tbrit should state on the ticket if the connection can be rebooked13:11
Ezko_does updating to 1.1.1.27 reset anything from my phone?13:12
TMavica_Jollai saw it. 5 euro change. thanks!13:12
TMavica_Jollabut it said before departure..13:13
TMavica_Jollano staff in station, how i change..13:13
tbrif there is no staff at the station, then approach the conductor while boarding?13:13
fennekkiMorpog_PC: I can confirm there are not even any *tables* in this commhistory.db13:13
fennekkiit is, in effect, an empty file13:13
ggabrielfennekki: maybe it creates it the first time it's used?13:14
fennekkiggabriel: presumably!13:14
TMavica_Jollatbr: try13:14
TMavica_Jollathx13:14
fennekkibut in that case it seems rather safe to just copy over the old file13:14
ggabrielfennekki: it _could_ upate it too13:14
fennekkibecause, by my logic, yeah13:14
fennekkiit could update from the old schema if it has changed13:14
ggabrieli'd do that13:14
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merlin1991phaeron: what do you mean with did you install it alreadyß13:26
merlin1991tbr: is the u10 target ready ?13:27
phaeronmerlin1991: you were complaining that you still have the old sailfish-maps ?13:27
merlin1991yes, I installed the "update" by going to store->jolla->maps "install"13:27
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merlin1991now it shows up again in "my apps" and seems to be the current version13:28
phaeronmerlin1991: ok never mind then. was going to debug why it wasn't showing in my apps in the first place13:28
tbrmerlin1991: yes, it's just missing chum13:28
merlin1991ah sorry, probably would have made more sense to find out why and fix it for everyone else too ...13:29
phaeronmerlin1991: that's ok. it would be a server side issue, just need to inform an account that still has it :)13:29
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merlin1991tbr: is your salmeta on obs current?13:30
tbrmerlin1991: no, that was me tinkering13:30
* tbr should probably purge that13:30
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merlin1991because javispedros doesn't build currently13:30
merlin1991something with libgato13:31
tbrlook at nokius' salmeta on obs13:31
tbrsupposedly he made it build for U913:31
merlin1991seach only finds yours and javispedros13:31
tbrhrm13:31
tbrlet me give it a go, real quick13:31
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merlin1991I can build it no problem13:32
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tbrmerlin1991: it looks like I can't build against the U10 target. it exists but no repositories show up in status13:45
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fennekkialso, hey, does adding Jabber/XMPP contacts still not work?14:09
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fennekkihmhm, this thing doesnt want to install android app14:26
fennekkis14:26
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coderustadzik: no14:34
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Sailor10353i install 1.1.1.2714:44
Sailor10353and warehouse not respont14:44
Sailor10353i have warehouse 3.2914:45
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* gexc reset the phone at last :-(14:53
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* gexc and set up a transparent proxy on my pc for updating14:54
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Sailor10353guys15:22
Sailor10353any help?15:23
ggabrieli heard it's a known issue but not sure whether it was resolved or not15:23
Sailor10353ggabriel: thats for me?15:24
ggabrielyes15:24
Sailor10353ok so we w815:24
Sailor10353i cant install patchs15:24
Sailor10353they give ne error15:25
msvb-labAnyone know who's the Jolla contact for outreach, like preparing lectures and teaching Qt development for Sailfish?15:25
Stskeepsmsvb-lab: i have a mail to answer you when i'm done with xmas15:25
msvb-labStskeeps: Oh okay, I thought my question hadn't reached you but good that it did.15:26
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fennekkihey, what's the binary to install apks?15:34
fennekkixdg-open doesn't seem to be picking it up anyway15:34
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* cb400f looks around to see if everyone is happy, and then proceeds to prepare for the mega update15:46
SK_workcb400f: I'm mega happy15:46
SK_workthere are issues it seems15:47
SK_worklike some crashes15:47
SK_workbut I have none15:47
SK_work:)15:47
cb400fI'm sure the crashes only happen to people who have somehow vandalized their installation or have some weird extreme use cases... I usually don't hit the problems others do ;-) *knock*on*wood*15:48
ggabrielyou mean like dev mode, sudo, changing hosts file, etc? :)15:50
gexchmm... it seems enabling dev mode for a clean device could brick it ;-)15:50
cb400fI run in dev mode at least.. but I don't fiddle around too much15:51
* gexc just tries15:51
gexctried15:51
SK_workgexc: this was pretty weired15:51
SK_workdevmode bricking15:51
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gexcsys version 1.0.4.20, just after reset15:52
gexcafter enabling dev mode, terminal, gallery, contacts, etc. would not work15:52
gexcI believe a reboot would give me a black screen ;-)15:53
SK_workha15:54
gexcmaybe the newer dev mode pulls in some dependences that not compatible with old sys?15:54
SK_workweired15:54
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fennekkiI seem to be missing apktool15:55
fennekkier15:55
fennekkithe apk installing tool15:56
fennekkimaybe I'll just reinstall android support15:56
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gexcat least the store is working and downloading update ;-)15:56
gexcif it fails I would be resetting it again :-/15:56
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fennekkiah, old #sailfishos logs seem to offer help15:58
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SK_workapktool is something else :D15:58
fennekkiyeah15:58
fennekkiit's for.. decompiling apks?15:59
gexcdev mode pulls some qt stuff in perhaps? No apps working LOL15:59
gexcit's update or die16:01
gexcand I've got some bad networking :-/16:01
SK_workgexc: reset and don't enable dev mode ?16:03
gexcSK_work: I'll try that if the current update fails :-/16:04
SK_workgexc: ok16:04
SK_workgexc: now you gave me a hint16:04
SK_workmaybe dev mode pulls fingerterm that is built on qt 5.216:05
gexcmaybe16:05
Stskeepsanybody reproducing it would be very valuable16:05
gexcand screwed every old appz16:05
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gexcdoes enabling dev mode reboot the phone automatically?16:06
gexcit doesn't in my case16:06
gexcI cannot remember past case though16:06
* gexc is going to do another reset anyway16:07
gexcthe progress bar stucks forever16:08
gexcluckily it's a new phone, and it' not mine :-P16:09
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Sailor-2getherhttp://www.theverge.com/2014/12/23/7440079/fx0-firefox-os-smartphone-specs-release-date-photos16:16
Sailor-2getherhm I don't think it's a "sexy" phone ^^16:16
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fennekkicould anyone check which binary is used to install apks?16:16
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fennekkiI really just want to get this app store working16:20
cb400fhm.. the download was pretty quick.. guess the 2 gigs are not the download size16:20
* cb400f updatez16:20
cb400fwhich appstore? can you install apks "manually"?16:21
cb400f(e.g. copy .apk to /data/apps/ iirc)16:22
gexcSK_work: tried again, enabling dev mode first would not brick the phone16:23
fennekkiif that installs them, I'm okay w that16:23
fennekkiInstall from file manager doesn't16:23
gexcSK_work: maybe that was becoz my previous failed update16:23
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phlixiHi16:42
fennekkicb400f: it does not appear to be working16:44
phlixiso far I didnt upgrade to U10 (i am still on U8) to prevent bad surprises.... now i read this: https://together.jolla.com/question/373/implemented-in-10716-back-in-11127-avoid-reloading-the-whole-page-every-time-you-switch-to-another-browser-tab/?comment=73164#comment-7316416:44
phlixiis the browser again reloading everything?16:44
phlixion U8 i have above 50 tabs open and no problems with it! yes, the older tabs are not loaded, but the last ones16:45
Stskeepsit may close them under load16:46
Stskeepsas in , memory load16:46
phlixihmm16:46
phlixithe thread loks like as if there would be high load all the time then16:47
fennekkithere *could* be constant high load on this particular user16:47
cb400ffennekki: now that my phone is done updating I could check that the path is /data/app/ ... I have installed apps by simply copying .apks to that location via ssh16:47
cb400fdo you have a bunch of alien_<something> process running?16:48
phlixithis means you two do not have the problem of all pages realoding all the time, right?16:48
fennekkihmm, maybe it's just an issue with this particular apk, then16:49
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cb400fnow, did anyone experiment with adblock or similar with the new updated gecko? :-)16:50
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fennekkicb400f: copying files there just does not work16:55
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M4rtinKany Idea If Gecko is even able to serialize/deserialize an open page ?16:58
cb400fcheck if aliendalvik is running (e.g. 'systemctl status aliendalvik.service' under devel-su).. or check if you have a bunch of alien* processes running16:59
M4rtinKincluding text entered in entry fields, etc.16:59
M4rtinKthat could help with the current behavior16:59
M4rtinKor even to be able to specify which page should "be available offline"16:59
M4rtinKthe Android Opera has this & I find it super useful17:00
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M4rtinKit is ideal for stuff like long single-page reference guides, very long articles, etc.17:00
fennekkiit is running17:00
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fennekkireboots or restarting dalvik seem to have no effect17:01
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cb400fjust tried again... copying an .apk to /data/app/ via ssh, instantly pops up "new android app installed" on the phone, and the icon appears on the launcher17:05
cb400fhow many different .apks have you tried? and is this your first attempt at installing an .apk on this phone ever?17:05
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fennekkino17:06
fennekkiafter update... not really17:06
fennekkiaptoide installs from jolla store but... there are other issues with that17:07
cb400fso other .apks install (via aptoide) and run fine?17:07
fennekkiuh. they seem to, yes17:08
* cb400f mostly uses f-droid and 1MobileMarket17:08
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* phlixi had no problems with fdroid so far neither17:18
fennekkicb400f: could you check in a terminal xdg-mime query filetype <some apk>17:19
fennekkiand then xdg-mime query default <filetype>17:19
fennekkithis'd be useful17:19
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fennekkior, anyone, I guess17:24
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xenos_Another bricked 1.1.1.27. phone, any chance to help or straight to the repair services? Brtf recovery fails, factory reset fails when mounting "/dev/mmcblk0p28 /mnt"17:28
gexcxenos_: this one? ->http://forum.jollausers.com/sailfish-news/jolla-phone-won%27t-start/17:30
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fennekkiuhh, didn't the guide suggest attempting btrfs restore might brick the thing worse17:30
fennekkiiunno, never tried it17:30
tbrxenos_: I've heard of btrfs snapshots floating around. you might be able to get one and just overwrite the fs with it17:30
ruskiehmm trying to sync contacts from a n95 to the jolla but not working... I guess older symbian isn't supported?17:30
fennekkidid you try to recover the partition from restore shrll17:31
fennekkirecovery shell17:31
fennekki*17:31
xenos_gecx, yes, both the recovery mode option & "btrfs check --repair /dev/mmcblk0p28"17:31
tbrruskie: best chance would be to get it to dump everything to one big vcard file17:31
ruskiedoing a vcard send from the n95 to jolla17:32
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ruskieatleast n95 allows to mark all and send as vcard17:32
xenos_fennekki, not yet. Any instructions for that somewhere17:32
ruskiewill be fun importing on the jolla though... all those files17:33
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tbrruskie: you should be able to just cat them all to one file and import them as one. IIRC17:38
fennekkiI seem to be missing apkd-install17:39
ruskietbr, yeah doing that now17:39
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fennekki...I seem to be missing apkd-launcher as well? how's that even possible?17:43
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coderuscrap my irssi of failed closed :( any missed messages for me?17:49
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Tegufennekki: do you have any android app from the jolla store installed? for some reason I had to install one android app in addition to the android-support. otherwise I could not install any apk17:54
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coderusi never installed any apk from jolla store17:56
coderusyou need to enable untrusted applications to install apk files17:57
TeguI think I also tried that17:57
Teguok, trying again. removed android apps and the android-support17:59
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gexcupdate download completed, finally :-/18:11
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fennekkiTegu: yeah, I had to do that as well, that's how I got apkd18:21
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iotRFfennekki: so if I backup /18:40
iotRF~/*18:40
iotRFI should be fine?18:40
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fennekkiiotRF: uh18:45
fennekkiyour android apps are in /data/app and /data/data (At least), and then you want /home/nemo, at least18:46
fennekkia smart idea might be to use the native backup app beforehand18:46
fennekkithose backups go in ~nemo/.vault so you'll get them *with* the full ~ backup18:46
aard_careful with /data/data, each android app gets assigned an individual uid/gid, just like the real android. if you drop your android apps in when restoring they'll most certainly have different uids/gids, which will screw up things in interesting ways if you just copy the old data over18:49
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aard_chowning the whole directory won't work as well as some of the apps contain system owned files in there18:49
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fennekkiaard_: yeah, but some data is probably manually recoverable18:52
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aard_well, you can record the owner and permission of each file when taking it, install the app, check uid, copy stuff over, and change uids as needed18:53
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SpeedEvilAs long as the app doesn't remember its UID18:54
SpeedEvil(I don't know if they do)18:54
aard_they don't18:54
aard_those get assigned by the android runtime on installation18:54
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fennekkiaard_: you can probably also compare with new files18:55
fennekkiand I think tar preserves ownership if you give it the right flags, leaving you at least the possibility to check those18:56
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iotRFNative backup app as in "Backup" from settings?19:00
fennekkiyeah19:00
fennekkithat19:00
fennekkiit creates an amusing-looking git repository under .vault19:00
iotRFgit repo?19:01
iotRFHah19:01
fennekkiyeah, the backup is a git repository19:01
fennekkiit's... surprisingly clever19:01
fennekkiyou only need to keep the .git directory around, and you can copy it wherever and they'll stay intact19:01
aard_fennekki: note that pictures/videos are not part of the git tree itself, so a clone will only work if you don't have media files in the backup19:02
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fennekkiaard_: that's... odd, since I was able to recover Videos/blobs from the .git directory in backups.tar19:03
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aard_fennekki: they are in the .git directory, but not stored inside git19:03
fennekkiohh19:03
fennekkiright19:03
fennekkibut git --checkout brought them out anyway19:03
fennekkihow'd you do that19:04
aard_git is not too good at handling big binary blobs19:04
fennekkiI'm aware19:04
aard_fennekki: read for yourself, most of the backup framework is opensource. https://github.com/nemomobile/vault/19:05
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fennekkiah, cool19:10
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iotRFdid ssh over usb work in developer connect mode19:16
fennekkiyes19:16
fennekkiif you're on linux just put the interface up19:16
fennekkiit's probably either usb0 or the longest enp you can find with ip link19:17
fennekkifor me it was something like enp29f7u119:17
fennekkiso just ip link set <iface> up && dhcpcd <iface>19:17
fennekkias root19:17
iotRF"enp0s29uli2"19:18
iotRFuli uli19:18
fennekki:D19:19
iotRFWhat dis dhcpcd do now?19:20
iotRFit's a client19:20
iotRFOh I see19:21
iotRFDoes jolla work as a gateway now too?19:21
fennekkiuh19:24
fennekkiyes19:24
fennekkisince forever ago19:24
TeguI guess he meant after those commands19:24
Tegu/she19:24
iotRFYeah19:25
iotRF(he)19:25
Teguyay for gender neutral pronouns19:25
iotRFThey19:25
fennekkiyeah just use they if you don't know19:25
iotRFI'm getting used to using they19:26
fennekkibut I'm p certain iotRF is a he. from meeting him in person like every day19:26
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iotRFThough that may not be definitive19:29
fennekkiwell, I suppose19:29
iotRFBut we were at the sauna too so19:30
fennekki...19:30
iotRFThat's almost 100% definitive19:30
iotRF:D19:30
aard_I suggest exploring more on next meeting to be sure19:30
fennekkiamazing19:30
iotRFMm sailfish is updating now19:33
iotRFLet's see how it goes19:33
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japa-fiHi. Have been away for a day, so don't know if this has been asnwered/discussed here. Is it possible to rollback to previous sailfish version?19:40
japa-fivaarainjärvi seems to be problematic for me19:41
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aard_japa-fi: no. what is your issue?19:43
iotRFfennekki: what was your issue with the update19:45
fennekkicould've been out of space but for some reason the update didn't seem to finish correctly19:46
iotRFRight..19:46
fennekkiit's recoverable via recovery mode, though, at least was for someone19:46
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japa-fiaard_ compass no longer calibrates. getting OOM (never got one before19:47
iotRFMine seems to have gone smoothly19:47
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fennekkiiotRF: if it reboots normally after update it worked19:47
aard_japa-fi: how many apps / how many android apps? also, sure that update went through completely?19:47
japa-fiaard_, you mean when got the OOM, or in general?19:48
aard_both19:48
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japa-fiaard_, and the update went fine as far as I could tell. Downloaded for ages, installed nicely with progress bar progressing all the way to the end.19:49
japa-fiWhen I last got the OOM, I had meeCast (jolla), Tweetian and one tab on jolla browser (clicked a link from tweetian) -> all three were killed19:49
japa-fiin general I have 47 icons. of which 5 android apps + 3 android store apps19:51
aard_all three sounds prety odd19:52
r0kk3rzthe oom killer does seem a bit too aggressive19:53
aard_Stskeeps: ^^19:54
r0kk3rzcertainly better than lagging the phone down completely19:55
aard_in my case I have a lot less issues with killed android apps nowadays. usually I have 8 apps running, two of them android19:55
r0kk3rzaard_: i seem to have a lot less issues from dalvik dying19:57
r0kk3rznot sure whether that was oom or not19:57
aard_there are a lot of potential crashes fixed in the new alien. for individual apps the changed memory killer should help19:58
r0kk3rzi only have one guaranteed oom-kill android app20:00
japa-fiI wonder if this is related to the compass not working: Dec 23 19:19:07 Jolla systemd-udevd[213]: timeout 'accelerometer /devices/i2c-12/12-006a/input/input9'20:00
r0kk3rzand thats a game in the unity engine that some of my friends made20:00
mordokay so afaics, my probs were caused by something failing silently during 1.1.0.39 -> 1.1.1.27 (never installed 1.1.1.26) ; after full reinstall i've gotten one somewhat odd oom case (an incoming call killed all running apps) but no reboots, no oom killing systemd or other silliness20:01
TeguI get those kills especially while browsing sailimgur if there's a large album. earlier (in tahkalampi) it just got a bit stuck and eventually only sailimgur was killed instead of all the open apps20:01
iotRFWhy did they have to improve android performance. Now I have to find the correct offset for my music games again20:03
iotRF:^)20:03
r0kk3rzTegu: afaik it should only kill one app, not all of them20:03
r0kk3rzso that sounds like a bug of sorts20:03
Teguin sailimgur or sailfish?20:04
r0kk3rzsailfish20:04
walokraTegu: I'm thinking about dividing big albums in Sailimgur to separate pages but will see.20:06
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Teguoh hi walokra :o and thanks for sailimgur :)20:06
walokraespecially with gifv (mp4/webm) collections of videos is slow20:07
walokrahappy that my apps are "useful". at least to waste time :)20:08
Teguyea, definitely to waste time :D20:08
japa-fiIs anyone here able to get "orienteering compass" (sailfish app) to calibrate more than 33%?20:08
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iotRFFinally! I can add a phone number from text messages20:10
r0kk3rzjapa-fi: nope, stuck on 33%20:11
Obi-Lanjapa-fi: installed and tried: stuck at 33%20:11
japa-fithanks, so it's definately not my phone that is broken20:12
Tegujust tried to browse again a bit --> all applications killed when trying to view an album with large photos20:12
Tegubetter keep it portrait :P20:13
Tegu(doesn't try to download and render the full size images, apparently)20:13
walokraportrait shows small images, landscape bigger20:13
walokrainteresting issue indeed.20:14
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japa-fijolla newbie question: Do I need to have calendar app running all the time to be able to get calendar notifications? In other words: I launch calendar app, set alarm for tomorrow at 13:00. Then before that time the phone reboots (intentionally or unintentionally) and calendar app has not been started (i have poor memory). WIll I miss theevent at 13:00=20:18
Teguno, you don't have to have it running20:19
japa-fiTegu, cool.20:19
japa-fiIs there known issues with BT connections jolla-lumia?20:20
japa-fiJust delivered my dad his new jolla, we were not able to get them connect and sync contacts20:20
japa-fiGot them paired once, nothing happened and after that Jolla just didn't even offer to pair with the lumia20:21
Teguthough, I would like to have a bit different vibration on the calendar alarm..20:23
Teguiirc it's just a single short vibration20:23
japa-fibtw. Is there a feature request to have the alarmsounds directory available when the phone is mounted by PC.20:24
japa-fiinstead of having the sounds at /usr/share/sounds/........ (which is owned by root)20:24
aard_japa-fi: "sync" will not work, on-way contacts sending via bluetooth should work20:26
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japa-fiaard_, so the only question now is how to get those two to connect..20:27
japa-fi(btw. the sync with n900 was perfect, sans missing avatars)20:27
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Obi-Lanatleast my VW stereo imported contacts from jolla successfully :P20:28
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japa-fiI just installed jolla together app. It seems to be stuck to "Fetcning login data"20:30
AL13N_jolla_ok, so I'm trying to fix sailfreecell, but i don't know much about drag and drop. hiw can i force a leave event in qml? in the droparea?20:30
AL13N_jolla_i thought drag.leave() but that didn't work.20:30
AL13N_jolla_anyone? I'm just here on the phone...20:31
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AL13N_jolla_ping?20:37
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Teguhumm, for some reason it seemed like the day in calendar was one day off forwards20:49
Tegubut when I went to the settings to change it, the day was correct20:50
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Teguset it again without modifying anything and now it's correct20:52
Teguin the calendar, that is20:52
bennypr0fanehello, I'm trying to set my Jolla up for ssh with keys authentication.- I generated a key pair on the Jolla in the OneSSHot app. Now it says I'm supposed to copy the key to the ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file, but there isn't one in this loaction. Any ideas what I can do?20:53
bennypr0fane... on the host that I want to fire an ssh command to from Jolla20:54
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bennypr0fanethere's only the known_hosts file20:56
AL13N_jolla_the public key from the jolla should be in the authorized_keys file on the dest host20:58
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AL13N_jolla_you can create it, if it doesn't exist20:59
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bennypr0faneAL13N_jolla_: how is it supposed to get to the dest host?21:02
AL13N_jolla_copy it?21:03
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AL13N_jolla_you know, scp or rsync or ...21:04
bennypr0faneAL13N_jolla_: so what, I just copy the key into an emtpy file in ~/.ssh, name it authorized_keys, that's it? nothing else needs to be in that file?21:04
AL13N_jolla_nope21:04
bennypr0fanealright21:04
AL13N_jolla_that's it21:04
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AL13N_jolla_make sure it's all on one line21:05
bennypr0faneYou mean there are no "enters" in it? what if that file is to hold multiple keys, how would they be separated21:05
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iotRFJolla can't import CSV?21:07
fennekkibennypr0fane: one key per line21:08
fennekkione line per key21:08
fennekkiand remember to only put id_rsa.pub in there and not the private key21:12
coderusEventsview controls patch updated to 0.0.5. CHanged package name and added more features. Unapply old patch and uninstall it before installing new. https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/patch-eventsview-controls-settings-applet21:12
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iotRFAlright.. I just imported 266 contacts, and all went under ", as in, all names are wrapped with "21:23
iotRFHue21:23
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OlpeWhere should the "eventsview controls" settings applet be visible? I can22:53
Olpecan't find it anywhere22:53
OlpeOh well... coderus had just updated it and now I see it.23:05
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coderusOlpe: yeah :D23:14
coderusit was hiding, but agent 007 uncovered it :D23:14
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Olpenice work btw. Now update10 only lacks mazelock before its perfect :)23:20
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WaRiOcan tyou tell me the command for refresh media?23:43
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Yanieltracker-control -s23:46
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andybransonbennypr0fane: if you haven't copied your key yet, use the ssh-copy-id command instead23:56
andybransonit creates authorized_keys file on the remote host for you and adds your public key23:57
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