stoft | still running after 20mins of upgrading. I'm guessing the original problem was I was too impatient and tried to restart it before it was complete. In my defense it had been running for quite some time already (guesstimate 30mins). | 00:03 |
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aard_ | stoft: no progress bar? | 00:04 |
stoft | progress bar was "done" I think, wasn't keeping a close eye on it, screen was black, no effect when pressing power button quickly. | 00:06 |
fennekki | stoft: could it have been the out-of-space problem? | 00:06 |
stoft | fennekki, possible but not probable, had 4GB free when I started | 00:06 |
fennekki | Hmm, yeah, sounds unlikely | 00:06 |
fennekki | unless btrfs | 00:06 |
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stoft | still updating... | 00:27 |
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phaeron | stoft: are you watching the command line ? | 00:35 |
fennekki | Uh, what. This thing downloaded the update, at least partially, and then... lost it. and now I have to re-download. Awwwww | 00:36 |
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fennekki | ...I hope the download works. It seems to be stuck again, though it's hard to say since it took a while to start up last time as well | 00:38 |
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stoft | phaeron, yes, complete now. rebooting. | 00:39 |
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fennekki | I s2g if this download is broken again I will punch things | 00:40 |
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stoft | still no good :( black screen after reboot. ssh still works | 00:43 |
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stoft | running version --dup again, getting an error in the beginning "Store credentials not received..." | 00:49 |
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fennekki | aaand my download is broken again | 00:52 |
fennekki | ... | 00:52 |
stoft | store credentials failed to fetch a second time but now update is running again. apparently everything wasn't in place yet... | 00:54 |
stoft | and now my screen lit up with my background pic. :) tiny steps | 00:55 |
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fennekki | hm, if it started working for you, maybe it'll work for me now as well | 00:58 |
fennekki | perhaps the store credential thing is a server-side issue | 00:58 |
stoft | there, all packages now installed. | 00:59 |
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stoft | fennekki, possible cause could also be local net connectivty. I have a fast ISP but stability can be shaky | 00:59 |
fennekki | could be but it's not working on wifi (which I'm using on this laptop as well) OR mobile | 01:01 |
fennekki | besides, it only started working after... something | 01:02 |
fennekki | and this particular issue apparently only affects 1.0.2.5 -> 1.1, or so I was told | 01:03 |
fennekki | oh, hey, it did something | 01:03 |
fennekki | ...well, canceled the download, but that's still | 01:03 |
fennekki | a thing | 01:03 |
stoft | and phone now boots and shows GUI correctly! :D | 01:04 |
stoft | my guess to root cause is really slow update, with possible failures in getting certain packages, possibly in combination with user impatiently rebooting before completion. | 01:06 |
fennekki | I have no idea what's causing my problem | 01:06 |
fennekki | since this | 01:06 |
fennekki | worked | 01:07 |
fennekki | once | 01:07 |
fennekki | and now it stopped working again | 01:07 |
stoft | aard_, thanks for the help! | 01:07 |
fennekki | ...maybe I should talk about it to the same guy | 01:07 |
stoft | also, phaeron , fennekki thanks for the support. fennekki , good luck! | 01:10 |
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fennekki | thanks | 01:12 |
fennekki | p | 01:12 |
fennekki | pheh | 01:12 |
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stoft | nn | 01:13 |
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fennekki | I | 01:22 |
fennekki | I've been doing this all evening and all night what the hell is wrong WHERE is the issue is what I'm wondering | 01:22 |
fennekki | 'cause I know there was something wrong with the initial update: Fair enough | 01:22 |
fennekki | but this? It just makes no sense, especially not since the download *did work*, once. Rebooting doesn't help. Up until now, factory resets haven't helped so I'm presuming they won't now, either. | 01:23 |
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tiwake | vodka and applejuice | 03:07 |
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pdanek | Good morning, | 03:31 |
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pdanek | Does update 10 fix Moscow timezone issue? | 03:31 |
pdanek | Jolla still thinks Moscow is UTC +4, but it's UTC +3 since late October 2014. | 03:31 |
pdanek | But I didn't update yet. | 03:32 |
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pdanek1 | Once I downloaded the update, can I update offline? During the flight? | 04:48 |
pdanek1 | Flying seems as a good option to update. :D | 04:48 |
pdanek1 | Because off anyway. | 04:48 |
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Miski | is anyone else having trouble installing Maps from Jolla store on u10? It just says "Waiting" for a while and then there's a system notification about a failed install | 05:48 |
mord | anyone else seeing oom killer going crazy? having just the browser running (idling) leads usually to a reboot, sometimes to this weird state with a rapid blue-green led blink. btrfs has room to breathe. | 05:52 |
mord | with 1.1.1.27, that is | 05:52 |
mord | relevant dmesg: http://pastie.org/private/oc4mcxbdqlylazqsqpwg journal: http://pastie.org/private/9qswvx25fxjtwoks7lrpea | 05:53 |
mord | killing systemd-udevd and systemd-cgroups sounds a bit harsh | 05:55 |
special | Stskeeps: ^ | 05:56 |
mord | ah, starting /anything/ can lead to that, just got similar results with only fingerterm running | 05:58 |
mord | updated from uitukka, if that makes a difference | 05:58 |
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mord | unfortunately i don't have room to keep this setup around as snapshot for debugging purposes and will have to do a factory reset soon as this is my everyday phone, so if any extra info is needed, please ask soon | 06:18 |
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mord | ah, turns out i don't actually have to have any apps running, just idling the device after a boot angered oom --> ui freeze --> reboot | 06:20 |
special | can you see what's using so much memory? | 06:22 |
tbr | mord: anything growing suspiciously large if you look at top? | 06:22 |
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Waitee | at least contactsd doesnt take up 40% of memory anymore | 06:23 |
Waitee | was rather annoying | 06:23 |
mord | tbr: not really, except maybe browser being 30% RES with just one tab | 06:26 |
mord | others seem to behave | 06:26 |
mord | nothing seems to leak massively | 06:26 |
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salyavin | u10 seems really agressive at killing processes to me as well. Sometimes it kills all my user apps. Randomly tweetian or tt-rss or gpodder. Always responsive unlike u9 which was less agressive but when it got too look may go a few seconds unresponsive. | 06:55 |
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tiwake | did you guys know whiskey is magic? | 06:55 |
salyavin | guess next phone should have at least 2G RAM | 06:55 |
salyavin | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVKYuQaiZ8M tiwake | 06:57 |
tiwake | lol | 06:59 |
tiwake | no, I poured it myself... its magic | 06:59 |
tiwake | I know because I can feel the magic | 06:59 |
tiwake | XD | 06:59 |
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salyavin | They say it'll put color in your cheeks, they forgot to say what color or which cheeks. | 07:14 |
tiwake | ha | 07:14 |
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juiceme | morning all o/ | 07:18 |
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mord | yep, i've now been just letting the device sit and after a while it kills systemd-udevd, then propmptly reboots | 07:27 |
mord | *promptly | 07:27 |
japa-fi | Ref: all these oom discussion on the channel: Are you referring to the latest system update, or are you running some special version of phone/software? | 07:29 |
japa-fi | Ie. am I likely to get issues as I just updated my dads phone | 07:29 |
japa-fi | and don't reply with: "No, you are not going to get any calls from you dad. Whaahahhahaaa" :) | 07:30 |
salyavin | My phone doesn't do that it just kills all open apps | 07:31 |
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mord | japa-fi: 1.1.1.27 | 07:36 |
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mord | just rebooted without me even unlocking/entering pin; i'll grab a journal + dmesg for the idle reboot and then am going to have to reset | 07:37 |
japa-fi | yah, vaarainjärvi | 07:38 |
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mcfrisk | saw weird stuff on clock app timers today. Stopping timer didn't work, touching anywhere in the app didn't work. Had to swipe out and back to the app, and suddenly things worked again. | 07:49 |
mdxth | mcfrisk, I had the same with all apps. Reboot helped :) | 07:50 |
japa-fi | where can you see the journal? | 07:52 |
japa-fi | I would like to check if my phone has experienced OOMs. no sign of that in dmesg | 07:52 |
mcfrisk | mdxth: I had only problems with the clock app | 07:52 |
mdxth | mcfrisk, I with people and call apps. Had to make a call and did not have that much time to play so just rebooted | 07:53 |
mcfrisk | feels like u10 brought this and several other studders into my jolla. Compared to u8 I can't see that much improvements in daily use. | 07:54 |
pahartik | japa-fi: "journalctl" | 07:54 |
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mcfrisk | did the browser loose tab caching in u10?!? it seems switching to tabs causes full reloads again, damit... | 07:59 |
mcfrisk | yes it did, now I'm disappointed.. | 08:00 |
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salyavin | u9 they had responsiveness issues when in low memory , that is probably related to such behavior in u10 | 08:04 |
mcfrisk | How to re-open a tjc issue which has been marked as released? | 08:05 |
salyavin | u10 always responds well for me though | 08:05 |
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mord | here's the tail of a dmesg of boot -> (do nothing) -> stuck at blue strobo: http://pastie.org/9795521 | 08:17 |
mord | well, "do nothing" includes a ssh login | 08:20 |
juiceme | /usr/local/Cavium_Networks/OCTEON-SDK/tools/bin | 08:20 |
juiceme | uups sorry wrong window :( | 08:21 |
pahartik | juiceme: MIPS is good | 08:27 |
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gogeta | juiceme, nice things | 08:36 |
juiceme | just mistakenly pasted it here... | 08:38 |
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Tegu | yea, just had my first "all applications get killed" experience | 09:02 |
Morpog_PC | before you all panic about oom killer, give it a day or two, it somehow got alot better here | 09:06 |
mord | Morpog_PC: couldn't, really, as the device was unusable; but i seem to have been bitten harder than most -- i'm starting to think maybe something went wrong in updating from 1.1.0.39 to 1.1.1.27 (skipping 1.1.1.26) | 09:08 |
Morpog_PC | or your btrfs space was fully allocated | 09:08 |
Morpog_PC | *is | 09:09 |
mord | Morpog_PC: nope, 4,9GB taking up some 9GB of 13,7 | 09:09 |
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Morpog_PC | ah ok | 09:09 |
mord | that was the first thing i checked (and did a bit of cleanup + balancing) | 09:09 |
Morpog_PC | because that made me alot of struglle in U9 before I found out | 09:09 |
mord | yeah that's definitely something to keep an eye on | 09:10 |
* gexc just bricked my collegues new phone LOL | 09:10 | |
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gexc | looks like https://together.jolla.com/question/63338/bug-screen-stays-black-after-reboot/ | 09:11 |
mord | but lessee, just did a reset + am updating now to 1.1.27, should help determine whether something in my update path could have been the culprit | 09:11 |
* gexc turned on developer mode while the system is still 1.0.4 | 09:11 | |
xfade_ | gexc: Did you enable ssh? | 09:12 |
gexc | yes | 09:12 |
xfade_ | can you try to connect to it? | 09:12 |
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gexc | ssh still works, lucky | 09:12 |
gexc | should I try to downgrade first? | 09:12 |
xfade_ | no! | 09:12 |
xfade_ | Can you try to version --dup? | 09:12 |
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TMavica_Jolla | i got a message 'Your subscriptionhas 2.32 euro and it ends at 24.3.15 | 09:14 |
meklu | oh, you're in .fi now? :O | 09:14 |
meklu | neat | 09:14 |
TMavica_Jolla | seem it cant be used after to 0 euro | 09:14 |
TMavica_Jolla | meklu: yes. said long time | 09:15 |
TMavica_Jolla | I am going to Kemi to look for snowcastle now | 09:15 |
meklu | I think you can put some more credit on it if you go to one of the places you can get those from | 09:15 |
TMavica_Jolla | so i need buy the credit from shop? | 09:15 |
gexc | xfade_: Device release is currently: 1.1.1.27 | 09:16 |
juiceme | TMavica_Jolla, have you sent more SMS'es or so...? | 09:16 |
TMavica_Jolla | it said umlimited..got fake | 09:16 |
xfade_ | gexc: did it install any new packages? | 09:16 |
TMavica_Jolla | juiceme: no | 09:16 |
meklu | o.o | 09:16 |
gexc | xfade_: not yet | 09:16 |
juiceme | the credit should not run out on internet usage | 09:16 |
gexc | xfade_: version --dup seems still in queue | 09:16 |
TMavica_Jolla | but i saw it dropping. after my jolla screen on, it pop up a large screen | 09:17 |
juiceme | did you go&ask about it on Elisa shop? | 09:17 |
gexc | xfade_: should I do the upgrading in ssh? | 09:17 |
xfade_ | gexc: pkill store-client | 09:17 |
TMavica_Jolla | juiceme: not yey | 09:17 |
TMavica_Jolla | yet | 09:17 |
juiceme | okay | 09:17 |
xfade_ | gexc: that is your only chance of getting it back | 09:17 |
xfade_ | gexc: well and doing rescue mode, but that is more painful | 09:17 |
TMavica_Jolla | i think i cant ask..i on the way to Kemi, back to Rovaniemi tonight.. | 09:17 |
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TMavica_Jolla | use whatsapp only | 09:18 |
vishap | after os upgrade meecast has no control when "minimized" on home screen. however other apps seem to have control over covers. | 09:19 |
gexc | xfade_: I'll try then LOL | 09:19 |
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xfade_ | gexc: If it is the issue I think it is, then we should be able to fix it in a few commands. But let's see. | 09:20 |
juiceme | TMavica_Jolla, does not whatsapp use SMS for identification or something? | 09:20 |
gexc | xfade_: version --dup is still refreshing | 09:20 |
TMavica_Jolla | jucieme: no | 09:21 |
xfade_ | gexc: depends on the number of repositories. If you went crazy on the openrepos, then it will take a while :) | 09:21 |
Morpog_PC | vishap, works here | 09:21 |
gexc | xfade_: fresh device :) | 09:21 |
TMavica_Jolla | juiceme: i off train later talk, damn cold | 09:23 |
gexc | xfade_: version --dup says it's downloading upgrade | 09:24 |
gexc | xfade_: looks good? | 09:24 |
xfade_ | gexc: yeah, just let it run. | 09:24 |
gexc | xfade_: :D | 09:24 |
xfade_ | It will tell you which packages it is downloading | 09:25 |
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gexc | could just "tunring-on" dev mode brick the phone? | 09:30 |
xfade_ | no | 09:30 |
gexc | hmm... | 09:30 |
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xfade_ | But older os versions could apply partial os updates when downloading was interrupted. | 09:31 |
gexc | after dev mode is on, the terminal it installed cannot be opened | 09:32 |
xfade_ | gexc: did version --dup finish? | 09:32 |
gexc | just 9% | 09:32 |
Morpog_PC | maybe btrfs fully allocated? | 09:32 |
xfade_ | Don't do anything until it is done, you don't want to make things worse | 09:32 |
gexc | the situation in China is that the ISP blocks jolla repository | 09:33 |
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gexc | so I need to get a global proxy running before doing upgrade, thus the dev mode | 09:33 |
Morpog_PC | oh, ok, so downloading could take alot of time? | 09:34 |
xfade_ | gexc: Hmm it works for our testers in china? | 09:34 |
gexc | depends on ISP | 09:34 |
xfade_ | Awesome ;) | 09:34 |
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gexc | fine for china unicom, but not for china telecom | 09:34 |
gexc | china telecom is the landline broadband provider | 09:35 |
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gexc | it's the amazonn cloud that's blocked | 09:35 |
gexc | good job | 09:35 |
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meklu | well ain't that just great ._. | 09:36 |
meklu | seems rather silly to block that wide a segment | 09:36 |
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xfade_ | gexc: for next time, when you long press on your wifi connection in settings, system-> wlan, you can enter proxy details. | 09:37 |
gexc | lol | 09:40 |
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gexc | maybe the safest approach is to get a unicom sim with a hugh data plan for sys upgrade | 09:42 |
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xfade_ | gexc: or go sit in some hotel lobby ;) | 09:44 |
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gexc | blocking out the BIG players would help local companys, hmm...splendid idea | 09:44 |
gexc | xfade_: that would depend on the ISP the hotel is using | 09:44 |
mord | okay so seem to work a lot better after reset + updates ; starting to think something went awry during the updates | 09:44 |
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gexc | or maybe set up a transparent proxy in wlan... | 09:45 |
gexc | transparent router | 09:45 |
ggabriel | mord: but isn't that the case for, well, every other mobile os out there? :) | 09:45 |
mord | ggabriel: sure, i had just already gotten used to the OTA updates just working ;) | 09:45 |
ggabriel | i can guarantee my android will never suffer that though | 09:46 |
ggabriel | google wants me to accept something i always decline and i can't get any more updates :P | 09:46 |
MikeHG_ | Hi, does anyone know which directory to put a picture in so whatsapp running through alien dalvik can attach it to a message? Tried all the obvikjs | 09:46 |
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MikeHG_ | *obvious looking ones, no dice. Thanks. | 09:47 |
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aard_ | pdanek1: u10 has updated timezone descriptions, though if you have automatic time updates enabled they don't matter -- then you'll get the timezone _offset_ in the NITZ data from the operator, and the russian operator seem to struggle a lot with fixing those. I noticed in november in russia that in some cases even different timezone offsets are announced in different cells of the same provider | 09:54 |
xfade_ | MikeHG_: It just needs to be visible in your gallery | 09:54 |
xfade_ | MikeHG_: so put it in Pictures for instances. | 09:54 |
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MikeHG_ | xfade_: Thanks - I must be doing something very wrong still, but no experience with alien dalvik or whatsapp so no surprise there. I'll keep experimenting... | 09:58 |
ggabriel | MikeHG_: but can you see the pic in gallery? if not, then maybe you need to give tracker a kick | 10:00 |
ggabriel | (keyword: maybe :-) ) | 10:00 |
MikeHG_ | I can see the picture in Sailfish gallery, not tested on other A/D side stuff. How do I kick tracker? systemd service or something? Thanks | 10:02 |
ggabriel | if you can see it, then tracker is working ok | 10:03 |
ggabriel | MikeHG_: https://together.jolla.com/question/4337/refresh-tracker/ | 10:03 |
coderus | SailfishOS Eventsview controls remastered patch released for 1.1.1.27: https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/patch-eventsview-controls-one-row-volume | 10:05 |
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gexc | downloading upgrade seems to stuck at 27% :-/ | 10:07 |
Morpog_PC | hmmm, sounds like fully allocated btrfs | 10:08 |
gexc | is it safe to cancel it and do it again? | 10:08 |
gexc | but it's a new device | 10:08 |
gexc | barely used | 10:08 |
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gexc | bad network perhaps? | 10:10 |
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Morpog_PC | could also be | 10:12 |
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Morpog_PC | if it's still downlaoding it should be pretty safe to cancel with ctrl+c | 10:13 |
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gexc | :) | 10:13 |
* gexc doing it again | 10:13 | |
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xfade_ | gexc: some packages are 50MB or so, so it will take a while on slow connections. | 10:14 |
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gexc | xfade_: maybe I'll get some bandwidth monitoring tool up first | 10:16 |
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xfade_ | gexc: if you really think it stalled. You can just ctrl-c it and start it again. | 10:18 |
xfade_ | gexc: But probably you need to be patient ;) | 10:18 |
gexc | lol | 10:18 |
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gexc | slow network indeed | 10:18 |
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xfade_ | gexc: Yeah, it is pretty strange to see a country which has such advanced technology, struggle with basic internet traffic :( | 10:19 |
gexc | world-leading technology for blocking internet LOL | 10:20 |
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gexc | we've got masters and phds working on those 'projects' | 10:21 |
gexc | version --dup throws a fatal error: Installation aborted by user | 10:23 |
gexc | and tells me to REBOOT? | 10:23 |
xfade_ | gexc: don't yet. | 10:23 |
xfade_ | gexc: just run it again | 10:23 |
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gexc | dare not :) | 10:23 |
xfade_ | gexc: only do it when it reaches 100% ;) | 10:23 |
xfade_ | packagekit has this nice bug where it reports aborted by user while there actually was a network error. | 10:24 |
gexc | yep | 10:24 |
gexc | All bugs you encounter until reboot are features unless you meet one of the | 10:24 |
gexc | criteria from the previous sentence. | 10:25 |
gexc | looks nice ;-) | 10:25 |
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gexc | xfade_: got that Installation aborted by user error again | 10:44 |
gexc | xfade_: also while refreshing there is err message about some repos | 10:45 |
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gexc | http://pastebin.com/jKbSCsE1 | 10:46 |
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xfade_ | gexc: Looks like network issues. | 10:48 |
gexc | lol | 10:50 |
SK_work | looks like dbus complaining ? | 10:51 |
SK_work | This > Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken. | 10:51 |
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SK_work | is a typical DBus message | 10:51 |
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gexc | the proxy should work, just checked with curl | 11:04 |
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Morpog_PC | timeouts could be llikely, given the response times are worse | 11:05 |
Morpog_PC | have you tried a ping to jolla repos? | 11:05 |
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gexc | jolla repo is blocked here so not ping-able | 11:07 |
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gexc | however I can use curl to access the repo, got unauthorized error | 11:11 |
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gexc | the proxy should be working | 11:11 |
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gexc | reboot maybe? | 11:13 |
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xfade_ | gexc: you probably don't get the credentials from ssud. | 11:16 |
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Morpog_PC | probably a proxy on the wifi itself would be good | 11:16 |
Morpog_PC | use network via usb | 11:16 |
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Morpog_PC | so you don't have to set proxy on device | 11:17 |
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detlev__ | FYI, wen te device breaks with the latest update and you recover to pre 1.0.3.8, there is a solution. | 11:18 |
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detlev__ | after factory reset, recovery is useless, use coderus image to extract boot/recovery.img (v0.2.7) | 11:19 |
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detlev__ | activate jolla account, internet connection and developper mode (DO NO REBOOT now), activate ssh login | 11:20 |
gexc | still looks like network issue | 11:20 |
detlev__ | through ssh, if it works (if not, reset to factory and start again), copy recovery.img and dd it to partition 21 | 11:21 |
detlev__ | extract coderus image to a big enough sd card (formatted as ext4) | 11:22 |
detlev__ | boot in recovery and dd it to partition 20 | 11:22 |
detlev__ | (if you do not have a 16 GB SD card, copy te compressed image to /home/nemo and, in recovery, create a ramfs of 500MB, copy te compressed image there, umount p28, tar xOf /mnt/tmpfs/factory.tar.gz | dd of=/dev/mmcblk0p28 bs=4M) | 11:25 |
gexc | maybe I'll use that for a last resort :-/ | 11:26 |
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coderus | SailfishOS Eventsview control patch updated to show multiple rows of switches: https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/patch-eventsview-controls-switcher-rows-volume | 11:36 |
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gexc | xfade_: ssud says [F] Ssud::Ssud:22 - Cannot register D-Bus service at org.nemo.ssu | 11:40 |
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detlev__ | gexc: that was my last resort ^^ | 11:45 |
gexc | lol | 11:45 |
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aard_ | gexc: do you have store credentials in /etc/ssu/ssu.ini? | 11:49 |
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gexc | aard_: if you mean [credentials-store], then yes | 11:50 |
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gexc | there is a password and username | 11:50 |
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aard_ | gexc: can you try version --dup again, and check if all repos (including xt9) throw no error or just the dbus error? | 11:52 |
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gexc | aard_: running pkcon refresh now :) | 11:54 |
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gexc | aard_: still the same error, unfortunately http://pastebin.com/jKbSCsE1 | 11:57 |
gexc | it seems xt9 repo throws an error, others look like dbus | 11:58 |
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aard_ | gexc: do you have a file /tmp/ssu.log? | 12:03 |
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AL13N_jolla_ | also, a question, now that we have maps overlays... wasn't there a traffic overlay? | 12:26 |
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merlin1991 | Hm sattelite car and trabsit modes in maps, how to activate? :D | 12:32 |
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AL13N_jolla_ | if you press on some location, you can change it on the bottom | 12:34 |
AL13N_jolla_ | but, for some reason, my maps app wasn't updated | 12:35 |
AL13N_jolla_ | i had to manually update it. | 12:36 |
phaeron | maps app is store app, needs to be updated separately | 12:36 |
merlin1991 | Hm seems to be the same case here | 12:36 |
AL13N_jolla_ | phaeron: what i mean is, it wasn't in the updates | 12:36 |
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AL13N_jolla_ | if i went to my apps, it wasn't there | 12:37 |
phaeron | hm | 12:37 |
merlin1991 | Yep same here, in the store under my apps maps aren't there | 12:37 |
AL13N_jolla_ | i noted this on the update page in tjc | 12:37 |
AL13N_jolla_ | merlin1991: find the app and choose update there. | 12:38 |
AL13N_jolla_ | maybe because i never did update all apps. | 12:39 |
merlin1991 | And if i go to apps->jolla in the store it has a download not installed sign on the icon... | 12:39 |
AL13N_jolla_ | yes, me tii | 12:39 |
AL13N_jolla_ | toi | 12:39 |
AL13N_jolla_ | argh | 12:39 |
AL13N_jolla_ | too | 12:39 |
AL13N_jolla_ | phaeron: it wasn't for you? | 12:39 |
tadzik | coderus: is the mazelock supposed to work with uLatest? | 12:39 |
phaeron | I am not a good comparison here :) | 12:40 |
tadzik | patchmanager is acting funny with it | 12:40 |
AL13N_jolla_ | heh | 12:40 |
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phaeron | AL13N_jolla_: I wonder how you installed sailfish-maps in the first place if it is not in your my apps | 12:40 |
phaeron | is that what you are saying ? | 12:40 |
AL13N_jolla_ | i installed it in the very beginning | 12:40 |
AL13N_jolla_ | ah wait, i had a reset | 12:41 |
AL13N_jolla_ | i think i installed it in 4 or 5 | 12:42 |
AL13N_jolla_ | and i came from 8 | 12:42 |
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AL13N_jolla_ | phaeron: but nothing special | 12:42 |
AL13N_jolla_ | merlin1991: how did you install it? | 12:43 |
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merlin1991 | In 4 or so via store client | 12:44 |
merlin1991 | And i also came from 8 | 12:44 |
AL13N_jolla_ | ah like me | 12:44 |
phaeron | AL13N_jolla_: the apps are supposed to be recorded server side | 12:44 |
AL13N_jolla_ | phaeron: maybe not in 4? | 12:44 |
merlin1991 | Damn i want the new sdk already, salmeta currently doesn't work for me ... | 12:46 |
AL13N_jolla_ | jan 5th, or so i hear | 12:46 |
AL13N_jolla_ | may updates could be rolled out to app devs in advance, so they can fix the app? | 12:47 |
AL13N_jolla_ | btw, i read about vkb handwriting... is that only for chinese? | 12:49 |
tbr | yes | 12:49 |
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AL13N_jolla_ | too bad... but not as important as, say traffic overlay on maps | 12:50 |
* tbr wouldn't mind if someone would create a psion inspired glyph input method for maliit, it's open sauce and all that | 12:50 | |
AL13N_jolla_ | it's only a cool thing, nit that usable | 12:50 |
phaeron | AL13N_jolla_: the opt in was supposed to be that | 12:51 |
AL13N_jolla_ | tbr: good idea, someone out there has to be nuts enough | 12:51 |
Morpog_PC | AL13N_jolla_, the opt-in sdk is already enough for apps in u10 | 12:51 |
AL13N_jolla_ | ok, good then | 12:51 |
AL13N_jolla_ | merlin1991: too bad for you:) | 12:52 |
tbr | merlin1991: there is an obs target for U10, you can build it against that | 12:53 |
AL13N_jolla_ | anyway, good update, gonna see if wifi is better now | 12:53 |
AL13N_jolla_ | so far it looks good | 12:53 |
AL13N_jolla_ | even 1 bar seems to work nicely now. | 12:54 |
AL13N_jolla_ | battery life seems improved too | 12:54 |
AL13N_jolla_ | browsing still gets a bit hot though | 12:55 |
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AL13N_jolla_ | but possibly better. | 12:55 |
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AL13N_jolla_ | i like the tech blog thing | 12:56 |
phaeron | merlin1991: did you install it already ? | 12:56 |
AL13N_jolla_ | tbr: you will have to blog too at some point :) | 12:57 |
AL13N_jolla_ | maybe something about people's complaints and how to fix these in mer | 12:58 |
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AL13N_jolla_ | with some various examples, like the handwritung for maliit | 12:58 |
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AL13N_jolla_ | this phone is really nice, you can sit on the toilet, taking a leak, and still be social and do stuff. | 13:01 |
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anonfriese_ | uhm yeah... didn't need to know that i guess ;) | 13:01 |
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fennekki | hmm, can I just copy commhistory.db in while the phone is running to restore my messages? | 13:02 |
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phaeron | fennekki: were you able to update finally ? | 13:03 |
fennekki | phaeron: yeah, it worked | 13:03 |
phaeron | finally :) | 13:03 |
Morpog_PC | copying whole old databases over new ones doesn't sound sane | 13:03 |
fennekki | Morpog_PC: the new one is perfectly empty, though | 13:04 |
fennekki | and I | 13:04 |
fennekki | would assume | 13:04 |
fennekki | the schema hasn't changed | 13:04 |
Morpog_PC | sure about that? | 13:04 |
fennekki | about which one? | 13:05 |
Morpog_PC | that schema hasn't changed | 13:05 |
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fennekki | No | 13:06 |
fennekki | I haven't checked | 13:06 |
ggabriel | fennekki: pastebin the new schema | 13:06 |
ggabriel | i still have u8 | 13:06 |
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WaRiO | hello | 13:07 |
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fennekki | well, I have the old schema here as well but let's see | 13:07 |
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fennekki | WaRiO: did you try updating, it worked for me eventually | 13:07 |
ggabriel | fennekki: truesay :) | 13:07 |
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WaRi0 | fennekki YES | 13:07 |
WaRi0 | TODAY the updtae works | 13:07 |
WaRi0 | but | 13:07 |
WaRi0 | its take 5-10 mins to download | 13:07 |
WaRi0 | where is the 2gb ? | 13:08 |
WaRi0 | i think is only 250 mb | 13:08 |
ggabriel | 2gb is required to uncompress etc | 13:08 |
phaeron | WaRi0: the update can take upto 2Gb to install | 13:08 |
phaeron | not to download | 13:08 |
ggabriel | like pkunzip update.zip | 13:08 |
ggabriel | ;) | 13:08 |
WaRi0 | yes but i cant install | 13:08 |
TMavica_Jolla | will i get kicked of the train, if my ticket is not that time ticket? i mean in finland train | 13:08 |
WaRi0 | maze lock | 13:08 |
WaRi0 | by patch manager | 13:08 |
WaRi0 | show me error | 13:08 |
tbr | TMavica_Jolla: you will need to buy a new ticket at full price in the worst case | 13:09 |
WaRi0 | its thats an update prob? | 13:09 |
tbr | TMavica_Jolla: I've seen that happen | 13:09 |
tbr | TMavica_Jolla: unless your ticket allows for rescheduling | 13:09 |
TMavica_Jolla | god.. | 13:09 |
fennekki | how'd you miss your train anywya | 13:09 |
fennekki | way* | 13:09 |
tbr | TMavica_Jolla: have that checked at the departure station, there would be a 5 or 10€ rebooking fee | 13:09 |
TMavica_Jolla | no. i want early leave from Kemi | 13:10 |
fennekki | ah | 13:10 |
TMavica_Jolla | to back Rov | 13:10 |
tbr | go to the station, ask | 13:10 |
TMavica_Jolla | my ticket is 1830.. | 13:10 |
TMavica_Jolla | no staff in kemi station | 13:10 |
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tbr | it should state on the ticket if the connection can be rebooked | 13:11 |
Ezko_ | does updating to 1.1.1.27 reset anything from my phone? | 13:12 |
TMavica_Jolla | i saw it. 5 euro change. thanks! | 13:12 |
TMavica_Jolla | but it said before departure.. | 13:13 |
TMavica_Jolla | no staff in station, how i change.. | 13:13 |
tbr | if there is no staff at the station, then approach the conductor while boarding? | 13:13 |
fennekki | Morpog_PC: I can confirm there are not even any *tables* in this commhistory.db | 13:13 |
fennekki | it is, in effect, an empty file | 13:13 |
ggabriel | fennekki: maybe it creates it the first time it's used? | 13:14 |
fennekki | ggabriel: presumably! | 13:14 |
TMavica_Jolla | tbr: try | 13:14 |
TMavica_Jolla | thx | 13:14 |
fennekki | but in that case it seems rather safe to just copy over the old file | 13:14 |
ggabriel | fennekki: it _could_ upate it too | 13:14 |
fennekki | because, by my logic, yeah | 13:14 |
fennekki | it could update from the old schema if it has changed | 13:14 |
ggabriel | i'd do that | 13:14 |
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merlin1991 | phaeron: what do you mean with did you install it alreadyß | 13:26 |
merlin1991 | tbr: is the u10 target ready ? | 13:27 |
phaeron | merlin1991: you were complaining that you still have the old sailfish-maps ? | 13:27 |
merlin1991 | yes, I installed the "update" by going to store->jolla->maps "install" | 13:27 |
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merlin1991 | now it shows up again in "my apps" and seems to be the current version | 13:28 |
phaeron | merlin1991: ok never mind then. was going to debug why it wasn't showing in my apps in the first place | 13:28 |
tbr | merlin1991: yes, it's just missing chum | 13:28 |
merlin1991 | ah sorry, probably would have made more sense to find out why and fix it for everyone else too ... | 13:29 |
phaeron | merlin1991: that's ok. it would be a server side issue, just need to inform an account that still has it :) | 13:29 |
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merlin1991 | tbr: is your salmeta on obs current? | 13:30 |
tbr | merlin1991: no, that was me tinkering | 13:30 |
* tbr should probably purge that | 13:30 | |
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merlin1991 | because javispedros doesn't build currently | 13:30 |
merlin1991 | something with libgato | 13:31 |
tbr | look at nokius' salmeta on obs | 13:31 |
tbr | supposedly he made it build for U9 | 13:31 |
merlin1991 | seach only finds yours and javispedros | 13:31 |
tbr | hrm | 13:31 |
tbr | let me give it a go, real quick | 13:31 |
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merlin1991 | I can build it no problem | 13:32 |
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tbr | merlin1991: it looks like I can't build against the U10 target. it exists but no repositories show up in status | 13:45 |
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fennekki | also, hey, does adding Jabber/XMPP contacts still not work? | 14:09 |
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fennekki | hmhm, this thing doesnt want to install android app | 14:26 |
fennekki | s | 14:26 |
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coderus | tadzik: no | 14:34 |
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Sailor10353 | i install 1.1.1.27 | 14:44 |
Sailor10353 | and warehouse not respont | 14:44 |
Sailor10353 | i have warehouse 3.29 | 14:45 |
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* gexc reset the phone at last :-( | 14:53 | |
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* gexc and set up a transparent proxy on my pc for updating | 14:54 | |
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Sailor10353 | guys | 15:22 |
Sailor10353 | any help? | 15:23 |
ggabriel | i heard it's a known issue but not sure whether it was resolved or not | 15:23 |
Sailor10353 | ggabriel: thats for me? | 15:24 |
ggabriel | yes | 15:24 |
Sailor10353 | ok so we w8 | 15:24 |
Sailor10353 | i cant install patchs | 15:24 |
Sailor10353 | they give ne error | 15:25 |
msvb-lab | Anyone know who's the Jolla contact for outreach, like preparing lectures and teaching Qt development for Sailfish? | 15:25 |
Stskeeps | msvb-lab: i have a mail to answer you when i'm done with xmas | 15:25 |
msvb-lab | Stskeeps: Oh okay, I thought my question hadn't reached you but good that it did. | 15:26 |
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fennekki | hey, what's the binary to install apks? | 15:34 |
fennekki | xdg-open doesn't seem to be picking it up anyway | 15:34 |
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* cb400f looks around to see if everyone is happy, and then proceeds to prepare for the mega update | 15:46 | |
SK_work | cb400f: I'm mega happy | 15:46 |
SK_work | there are issues it seems | 15:47 |
SK_work | like some crashes | 15:47 |
SK_work | but I have none | 15:47 |
SK_work | :) | 15:47 |
cb400f | I'm sure the crashes only happen to people who have somehow vandalized their installation or have some weird extreme use cases... I usually don't hit the problems others do ;-) *knock*on*wood* | 15:48 |
ggabriel | you mean like dev mode, sudo, changing hosts file, etc? :) | 15:50 |
gexc | hmm... it seems enabling dev mode for a clean device could brick it ;-) | 15:50 |
cb400f | I run in dev mode at least.. but I don't fiddle around too much | 15:51 |
* gexc just tries | 15:51 | |
gexc | tried | 15:51 |
SK_work | gexc: this was pretty weired | 15:51 |
SK_work | devmode bricking | 15:51 |
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gexc | sys version 1.0.4.20, just after reset | 15:52 |
gexc | after enabling dev mode, terminal, gallery, contacts, etc. would not work | 15:52 |
gexc | I believe a reboot would give me a black screen ;-) | 15:53 |
SK_work | ha | 15:54 |
gexc | maybe the newer dev mode pulls in some dependences that not compatible with old sys? | 15:54 |
SK_work | weired | 15:54 |
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fennekki | I seem to be missing apktool | 15:55 |
fennekki | er | 15:55 |
fennekki | the apk installing tool | 15:56 |
fennekki | maybe I'll just reinstall android support | 15:56 |
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gexc | at least the store is working and downloading update ;-) | 15:56 |
gexc | if it fails I would be resetting it again :-/ | 15:56 |
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fennekki | ah, old #sailfishos logs seem to offer help | 15:58 |
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SK_work | apktool is something else :D | 15:58 |
fennekki | yeah | 15:58 |
fennekki | it's for.. decompiling apks? | 15:59 |
gexc | dev mode pulls some qt stuff in perhaps? No apps working LOL | 15:59 |
gexc | it's update or die | 16:01 |
gexc | and I've got some bad networking :-/ | 16:01 |
SK_work | gexc: reset and don't enable dev mode ? | 16:03 |
gexc | SK_work: I'll try that if the current update fails :-/ | 16:04 |
SK_work | gexc: ok | 16:04 |
SK_work | gexc: now you gave me a hint | 16:04 |
SK_work | maybe dev mode pulls fingerterm that is built on qt 5.2 | 16:05 |
gexc | maybe | 16:05 |
Stskeeps | anybody reproducing it would be very valuable | 16:05 |
gexc | and screwed every old appz | 16:05 |
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gexc | does enabling dev mode reboot the phone automatically? | 16:06 |
gexc | it doesn't in my case | 16:06 |
gexc | I cannot remember past case though | 16:06 |
* gexc is going to do another reset anyway | 16:07 | |
gexc | the progress bar stucks forever | 16:08 |
gexc | luckily it's a new phone, and it' not mine :-P | 16:09 |
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Sailor-2gether | http://www.theverge.com/2014/12/23/7440079/fx0-firefox-os-smartphone-specs-release-date-photos | 16:16 |
Sailor-2gether | hm I don't think it's a "sexy" phone ^^ | 16:16 |
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fennekki | could anyone check which binary is used to install apks? | 16:16 |
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fennekki | I really just want to get this app store working | 16:20 |
cb400f | hm.. the download was pretty quick.. guess the 2 gigs are not the download size | 16:20 |
* cb400f updatez | 16:20 | |
cb400f | which appstore? can you install apks "manually"? | 16:21 |
cb400f | (e.g. copy .apk to /data/apps/ iirc) | 16:22 |
gexc | SK_work: tried again, enabling dev mode first would not brick the phone | 16:23 |
fennekki | if that installs them, I'm okay w that | 16:23 |
fennekki | Install from file manager doesn't | 16:23 |
gexc | SK_work: maybe that was becoz my previous failed update | 16:23 |
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phlixi | Hi | 16:42 |
fennekki | cb400f: it does not appear to be working | 16:44 |
phlixi | so far I didnt upgrade to U10 (i am still on U8) to prevent bad surprises.... now i read this: https://together.jolla.com/question/373/implemented-in-10716-back-in-11127-avoid-reloading-the-whole-page-every-time-you-switch-to-another-browser-tab/?comment=73164#comment-73164 | 16:44 |
phlixi | is the browser again reloading everything? | 16:44 |
phlixi | on U8 i have above 50 tabs open and no problems with it! yes, the older tabs are not loaded, but the last ones | 16:45 |
Stskeeps | it may close them under load | 16:46 |
Stskeeps | as in , memory load | 16:46 |
phlixi | hmm | 16:46 |
phlixi | the thread loks like as if there would be high load all the time then | 16:47 |
fennekki | there *could* be constant high load on this particular user | 16:47 |
cb400f | fennekki: now that my phone is done updating I could check that the path is /data/app/ ... I have installed apps by simply copying .apks to that location via ssh | 16:47 |
cb400f | do you have a bunch of alien_<something> process running? | 16:48 |
phlixi | this means you two do not have the problem of all pages realoding all the time, right? | 16:48 |
fennekki | hmm, maybe it's just an issue with this particular apk, then | 16:49 |
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cb400f | now, did anyone experiment with adblock or similar with the new updated gecko? :-) | 16:50 |
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fennekki | cb400f: copying files there just does not work | 16:55 |
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M4rtinK | any Idea If Gecko is even able to serialize/deserialize an open page ? | 16:58 |
cb400f | check if aliendalvik is running (e.g. 'systemctl status aliendalvik.service' under devel-su).. or check if you have a bunch of alien* processes running | 16:59 |
M4rtinK | including text entered in entry fields, etc. | 16:59 |
M4rtinK | that could help with the current behavior | 16:59 |
M4rtinK | or even to be able to specify which page should "be available offline" | 16:59 |
M4rtinK | the Android Opera has this & I find it super useful | 17:00 |
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M4rtinK | it is ideal for stuff like long single-page reference guides, very long articles, etc. | 17:00 |
fennekki | it is running | 17:00 |
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fennekki | reboots or restarting dalvik seem to have no effect | 17:01 |
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cb400f | just tried again... copying an .apk to /data/app/ via ssh, instantly pops up "new android app installed" on the phone, and the icon appears on the launcher | 17:05 |
cb400f | how many different .apks have you tried? and is this your first attempt at installing an .apk on this phone ever? | 17:05 |
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fennekki | no | 17:06 |
fennekki | after update... not really | 17:06 |
fennekki | aptoide installs from jolla store but... there are other issues with that | 17:07 |
cb400f | so other .apks install (via aptoide) and run fine? | 17:07 |
fennekki | uh. they seem to, yes | 17:08 |
* cb400f mostly uses f-droid and 1MobileMarket | 17:08 | |
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* phlixi had no problems with fdroid so far neither | 17:18 | |
fennekki | cb400f: could you check in a terminal xdg-mime query filetype <some apk> | 17:19 |
fennekki | and then xdg-mime query default <filetype> | 17:19 |
fennekki | this'd be useful | 17:19 |
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fennekki | or, anyone, I guess | 17:24 |
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xenos_ | Another bricked 1.1.1.27. phone, any chance to help or straight to the repair services? Brtf recovery fails, factory reset fails when mounting "/dev/mmcblk0p28 /mnt" | 17:28 |
gexc | xenos_: this one? ->http://forum.jollausers.com/sailfish-news/jolla-phone-won%27t-start/ | 17:30 |
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fennekki | uhh, didn't the guide suggest attempting btrfs restore might brick the thing worse | 17:30 |
fennekki | iunno, never tried it | 17:30 |
tbr | xenos_: I've heard of btrfs snapshots floating around. you might be able to get one and just overwrite the fs with it | 17:30 |
ruskie | hmm trying to sync contacts from a n95 to the jolla but not working... I guess older symbian isn't supported? | 17:30 |
fennekki | did you try to recover the partition from restore shrll | 17:31 |
fennekki | recovery shell | 17:31 |
fennekki | * | 17:31 |
xenos_ | gecx, yes, both the recovery mode option & "btrfs check --repair /dev/mmcblk0p28" | 17:31 |
tbr | ruskie: best chance would be to get it to dump everything to one big vcard file | 17:31 |
ruskie | doing a vcard send from the n95 to jolla | 17:32 |
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ruskie | atleast n95 allows to mark all and send as vcard | 17:32 |
xenos_ | fennekki, not yet. Any instructions for that somewhere | 17:32 |
ruskie | will be fun importing on the jolla though... all those files | 17:33 |
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tbr | ruskie: you should be able to just cat them all to one file and import them as one. IIRC | 17:38 |
fennekki | I seem to be missing apkd-install | 17:39 |
ruskie | tbr, yeah doing that now | 17:39 |
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fennekki | ...I seem to be missing apkd-launcher as well? how's that even possible? | 17:43 |
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coderus | crap my irssi of failed closed :( any missed messages for me? | 17:49 |
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Tegu | fennekki: do you have any android app from the jolla store installed? for some reason I had to install one android app in addition to the android-support. otherwise I could not install any apk | 17:54 |
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coderus | i never installed any apk from jolla store | 17:56 |
coderus | you need to enable untrusted applications to install apk files | 17:57 |
Tegu | I think I also tried that | 17:57 |
Tegu | ok, trying again. removed android apps and the android-support | 17:59 |
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gexc | update download completed, finally :-/ | 18:11 |
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fennekki | Tegu: yeah, I had to do that as well, that's how I got apkd | 18:21 |
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iotRF | fennekki: so if I backup / | 18:40 |
iotRF | ~/* | 18:40 |
iotRF | I should be fine? | 18:40 |
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fennekki | iotRF: uh | 18:45 |
fennekki | your android apps are in /data/app and /data/data (At least), and then you want /home/nemo, at least | 18:46 |
fennekki | a smart idea might be to use the native backup app beforehand | 18:46 |
fennekki | those backups go in ~nemo/.vault so you'll get them *with* the full ~ backup | 18:46 |
aard_ | careful with /data/data, each android app gets assigned an individual uid/gid, just like the real android. if you drop your android apps in when restoring they'll most certainly have different uids/gids, which will screw up things in interesting ways if you just copy the old data over | 18:49 |
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aard_ | chowning the whole directory won't work as well as some of the apps contain system owned files in there | 18:49 |
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fennekki | aard_: yeah, but some data is probably manually recoverable | 18:52 |
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aard_ | well, you can record the owner and permission of each file when taking it, install the app, check uid, copy stuff over, and change uids as needed | 18:53 |
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SpeedEvil | As long as the app doesn't remember its UID | 18:54 |
SpeedEvil | (I don't know if they do) | 18:54 |
aard_ | they don't | 18:54 |
aard_ | those get assigned by the android runtime on installation | 18:54 |
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fennekki | aard_: you can probably also compare with new files | 18:55 |
fennekki | and I think tar preserves ownership if you give it the right flags, leaving you at least the possibility to check those | 18:56 |
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iotRF | Native backup app as in "Backup" from settings? | 19:00 |
fennekki | yeah | 19:00 |
fennekki | that | 19:00 |
fennekki | it creates an amusing-looking git repository under .vault | 19:00 |
iotRF | git repo? | 19:01 |
iotRF | Hah | 19:01 |
fennekki | yeah, the backup is a git repository | 19:01 |
fennekki | it's... surprisingly clever | 19:01 |
fennekki | you only need to keep the .git directory around, and you can copy it wherever and they'll stay intact | 19:01 |
aard_ | fennekki: note that pictures/videos are not part of the git tree itself, so a clone will only work if you don't have media files in the backup | 19:02 |
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fennekki | aard_: that's... odd, since I was able to recover Videos/blobs from the .git directory in backups.tar | 19:03 |
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aard_ | fennekki: they are in the .git directory, but not stored inside git | 19:03 |
fennekki | ohh | 19:03 |
fennekki | right | 19:03 |
fennekki | but git --checkout brought them out anyway | 19:03 |
fennekki | how'd you do that | 19:04 |
aard_ | git is not too good at handling big binary blobs | 19:04 |
fennekki | I'm aware | 19:04 |
aard_ | fennekki: read for yourself, most of the backup framework is opensource. https://github.com/nemomobile/vault/ | 19:05 |
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fennekki | ah, cool | 19:10 |
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iotRF | did ssh over usb work in developer connect mode | 19:16 |
fennekki | yes | 19:16 |
fennekki | if you're on linux just put the interface up | 19:16 |
fennekki | it's probably either usb0 or the longest enp you can find with ip link | 19:17 |
fennekki | for me it was something like enp29f7u1 | 19:17 |
fennekki | so just ip link set <iface> up && dhcpcd <iface> | 19:17 |
fennekki | as root | 19:17 |
iotRF | "enp0s29uli2" | 19:18 |
iotRF | uli uli | 19:18 |
fennekki | :D | 19:19 |
iotRF | What dis dhcpcd do now? | 19:20 |
iotRF | it's a client | 19:20 |
iotRF | Oh I see | 19:21 |
iotRF | Does jolla work as a gateway now too? | 19:21 |
fennekki | uh | 19:24 |
fennekki | yes | 19:24 |
fennekki | since forever ago | 19:24 |
Tegu | I guess he meant after those commands | 19:24 |
Tegu | /she | 19:24 |
iotRF | Yeah | 19:25 |
iotRF | (he) | 19:25 |
Tegu | yay for gender neutral pronouns | 19:25 |
iotRF | They | 19:25 |
fennekki | yeah just use they if you don't know | 19:25 |
iotRF | I'm getting used to using they | 19:26 |
fennekki | but I'm p certain iotRF is a he. from meeting him in person like every day | 19:26 |
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iotRF | Though that may not be definitive | 19:29 |
fennekki | well, I suppose | 19:29 |
iotRF | But we were at the sauna too so | 19:30 |
fennekki | ... | 19:30 |
iotRF | That's almost 100% definitive | 19:30 |
iotRF | :D | 19:30 |
aard_ | I suggest exploring more on next meeting to be sure | 19:30 |
fennekki | amazing | 19:30 |
iotRF | Mm sailfish is updating now | 19:33 |
iotRF | Let's see how it goes | 19:33 |
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japa-fi | Hi. Have been away for a day, so don't know if this has been asnwered/discussed here. Is it possible to rollback to previous sailfish version? | 19:40 |
japa-fi | vaarainjärvi seems to be problematic for me | 19:41 |
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aard_ | japa-fi: no. what is your issue? | 19:43 |
iotRF | fennekki: what was your issue with the update | 19:45 |
fennekki | could've been out of space but for some reason the update didn't seem to finish correctly | 19:46 |
iotRF | Right.. | 19:46 |
fennekki | it's recoverable via recovery mode, though, at least was for someone | 19:46 |
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japa-fi | aard_ compass no longer calibrates. getting OOM (never got one before | 19:47 |
iotRF | Mine seems to have gone smoothly | 19:47 |
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fennekki | iotRF: if it reboots normally after update it worked | 19:47 |
aard_ | japa-fi: how many apps / how many android apps? also, sure that update went through completely? | 19:47 |
japa-fi | aard_, you mean when got the OOM, or in general? | 19:48 |
aard_ | both | 19:48 |
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japa-fi | aard_, and the update went fine as far as I could tell. Downloaded for ages, installed nicely with progress bar progressing all the way to the end. | 19:49 |
japa-fi | When I last got the OOM, I had meeCast (jolla), Tweetian and one tab on jolla browser (clicked a link from tweetian) -> all three were killed | 19:49 |
japa-fi | in general I have 47 icons. of which 5 android apps + 3 android store apps | 19:51 |
aard_ | all three sounds prety odd | 19:52 |
r0kk3rz | the oom killer does seem a bit too aggressive | 19:53 |
aard_ | Stskeeps: ^^ | 19:54 |
r0kk3rz | certainly better than lagging the phone down completely | 19:55 |
aard_ | in my case I have a lot less issues with killed android apps nowadays. usually I have 8 apps running, two of them android | 19:55 |
r0kk3rz | aard_: i seem to have a lot less issues from dalvik dying | 19:57 |
r0kk3rz | not sure whether that was oom or not | 19:57 |
aard_ | there are a lot of potential crashes fixed in the new alien. for individual apps the changed memory killer should help | 19:58 |
r0kk3rz | i only have one guaranteed oom-kill android app | 20:00 |
japa-fi | I wonder if this is related to the compass not working: Dec 23 19:19:07 Jolla systemd-udevd[213]: timeout 'accelerometer /devices/i2c-12/12-006a/input/input9' | 20:00 |
r0kk3rz | and thats a game in the unity engine that some of my friends made | 20:00 |
mord | okay so afaics, my probs were caused by something failing silently during 1.1.0.39 -> 1.1.1.27 (never installed 1.1.1.26) ; after full reinstall i've gotten one somewhat odd oom case (an incoming call killed all running apps) but no reboots, no oom killing systemd or other silliness | 20:01 |
Tegu | I get those kills especially while browsing sailimgur if there's a large album. earlier (in tahkalampi) it just got a bit stuck and eventually only sailimgur was killed instead of all the open apps | 20:01 |
iotRF | Why did they have to improve android performance. Now I have to find the correct offset for my music games again | 20:03 |
iotRF | :^) | 20:03 |
r0kk3rz | Tegu: afaik it should only kill one app, not all of them | 20:03 |
r0kk3rz | so that sounds like a bug of sorts | 20:03 |
Tegu | in sailimgur or sailfish? | 20:04 |
r0kk3rz | sailfish | 20:04 |
walokra | Tegu: I'm thinking about dividing big albums in Sailimgur to separate pages but will see. | 20:06 |
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Tegu | oh hi walokra :o and thanks for sailimgur :) | 20:06 |
walokra | especially with gifv (mp4/webm) collections of videos is slow | 20:07 |
walokra | happy that my apps are "useful". at least to waste time :) | 20:08 |
Tegu | yea, definitely to waste time :D | 20:08 |
japa-fi | Is anyone here able to get "orienteering compass" (sailfish app) to calibrate more than 33%? | 20:08 |
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iotRF | Finally! I can add a phone number from text messages | 20:10 |
r0kk3rz | japa-fi: nope, stuck on 33% | 20:11 |
Obi-Lan | japa-fi: installed and tried: stuck at 33% | 20:11 |
japa-fi | thanks, so it's definately not my phone that is broken | 20:12 |
Tegu | just tried to browse again a bit --> all applications killed when trying to view an album with large photos | 20:12 |
Tegu | better keep it portrait :P | 20:13 |
Tegu | (doesn't try to download and render the full size images, apparently) | 20:13 |
walokra | portrait shows small images, landscape bigger | 20:13 |
walokra | interesting issue indeed. | 20:14 |
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japa-fi | jolla newbie question: Do I need to have calendar app running all the time to be able to get calendar notifications? In other words: I launch calendar app, set alarm for tomorrow at 13:00. Then before that time the phone reboots (intentionally or unintentionally) and calendar app has not been started (i have poor memory). WIll I miss theevent at 13:00= | 20:18 |
Tegu | no, you don't have to have it running | 20:19 |
japa-fi | Tegu, cool. | 20:19 |
japa-fi | Is there known issues with BT connections jolla-lumia? | 20:20 |
japa-fi | Just delivered my dad his new jolla, we were not able to get them connect and sync contacts | 20:20 |
japa-fi | Got them paired once, nothing happened and after that Jolla just didn't even offer to pair with the lumia | 20:21 |
Tegu | though, I would like to have a bit different vibration on the calendar alarm.. | 20:23 |
Tegu | iirc it's just a single short vibration | 20:23 |
japa-fi | btw. Is there a feature request to have the alarmsounds directory available when the phone is mounted by PC. | 20:24 |
japa-fi | instead of having the sounds at /usr/share/sounds/........ (which is owned by root) | 20:24 |
aard_ | japa-fi: "sync" will not work, on-way contacts sending via bluetooth should work | 20:26 |
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japa-fi | aard_, so the only question now is how to get those two to connect.. | 20:27 |
japa-fi | (btw. the sync with n900 was perfect, sans missing avatars) | 20:27 |
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Obi-Lan | atleast my VW stereo imported contacts from jolla successfully :P | 20:28 |
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japa-fi | I just installed jolla together app. It seems to be stuck to "Fetcning login data" | 20:30 |
AL13N_jolla_ | ok, so I'm trying to fix sailfreecell, but i don't know much about drag and drop. hiw can i force a leave event in qml? in the droparea? | 20:30 |
AL13N_jolla_ | i thought drag.leave() but that didn't work. | 20:30 |
AL13N_jolla_ | anyone? I'm just here on the phone... | 20:31 |
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AL13N_jolla_ | ping? | 20:37 |
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Tegu | humm, for some reason it seemed like the day in calendar was one day off forwards | 20:49 |
Tegu | but when I went to the settings to change it, the day was correct | 20:50 |
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Tegu | set it again without modifying anything and now it's correct | 20:52 |
Tegu | in the calendar, that is | 20:52 |
bennypr0fane | hello, I'm trying to set my Jolla up for ssh with keys authentication.- I generated a key pair on the Jolla in the OneSSHot app. Now it says I'm supposed to copy the key to the ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file, but there isn't one in this loaction. Any ideas what I can do? | 20:53 |
bennypr0fane | ... on the host that I want to fire an ssh command to from Jolla | 20:54 |
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bennypr0fane | there's only the known_hosts file | 20:56 |
AL13N_jolla_ | the public key from the jolla should be in the authorized_keys file on the dest host | 20:58 |
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AL13N_jolla_ | you can create it, if it doesn't exist | 20:59 |
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bennypr0fane | AL13N_jolla_: how is it supposed to get to the dest host? | 21:02 |
AL13N_jolla_ | copy it? | 21:03 |
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AL13N_jolla_ | you know, scp or rsync or ... | 21:04 |
bennypr0fane | AL13N_jolla_: so what, I just copy the key into an emtpy file in ~/.ssh, name it authorized_keys, that's it? nothing else needs to be in that file? | 21:04 |
AL13N_jolla_ | nope | 21:04 |
bennypr0fane | alright | 21:04 |
AL13N_jolla_ | that's it | 21:04 |
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AL13N_jolla_ | make sure it's all on one line | 21:05 |
bennypr0fane | You mean there are no "enters" in it? what if that file is to hold multiple keys, how would they be separated | 21:05 |
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iotRF | Jolla can't import CSV? | 21:07 |
fennekki | bennypr0fane: one key per line | 21:08 |
fennekki | one line per key | 21:08 |
fennekki | and remember to only put id_rsa.pub in there and not the private key | 21:12 |
coderus | Eventsview controls patch updated to 0.0.5. CHanged package name and added more features. Unapply old patch and uninstall it before installing new. https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/patch-eventsview-controls-settings-applet | 21:12 |
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iotRF | Alright.. I just imported 266 contacts, and all went under ", as in, all names are wrapped with " | 21:23 |
iotRF | Hue | 21:23 |
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Olpe | Where should the "eventsview controls" settings applet be visible? I can | 22:53 |
Olpe | can't find it anywhere | 22:53 |
Olpe | Oh well... coderus had just updated it and now I see it. | 23:05 |
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coderus | Olpe: yeah :D | 23:14 |
coderus | it was hiding, but agent 007 uncovered it :D | 23:14 |
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Olpe | nice work btw. Now update10 only lacks mazelock before its perfect :) | 23:20 |
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WaRiO | can tyou tell me the command for refresh media? | 23:43 |
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Yaniel | tracker-control -s | 23:46 |
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andybranson | bennypr0fane: if you haven't copied your key yet, use the ssh-copy-id command instead | 23:56 |
andybranson | it creates authorized_keys file on the remote host for you and adds your public key | 23:57 |
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