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* ryukafalz wishes he could get a TOHKBD, but doesn't have a Jolla :(06:05
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SpeedEvilTechnically, that doesn't stop you.06:14
Mikaelabut the TOHKBD might be a little more useful with Jolla06:17
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SpeedEvilquite06:20
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Mikaelait probably wouldn't like that insmat protective case06:21
Yanielit's so-so06:23
temmi_mooi wonder if it was possible to make the keybored part host a protective flap that would double as a7 pad holder and pencil holder06:23
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fluxsure, everything's possible :)09:37
fluxyou just need to design that yourself and perhaps order the new parts from shapeways..09:37
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xkr47which is the correct path to follow in order to get hardware service for my Jolla phone?11:33
xkr47(service as in repair)11:34
Jopedid you buy it online?11:34
xkr47yes11:34
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Jopecontact care. https://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-us11:34
xkr47ok thanks!11:35
Jopenp, hope you get it sorted.11:35
xkr47me too, gorilla glass shattered, phone however still operates norally11:36
xkr47normally*11:36
xkr47your link could perhaps be added to https://jolla.com/support/ ?11:38
xkr47(Jope)11:38
Jopeit's there11:39
Jopea big green button "visit our help center"11:39
xkr47oh11:39
xkr47wouldn't think of clicking that though11:39
xkr47I was looking for "service" and "repair"11:39
Jopek11:39
Jopepassing it on in case our care guys didn't notice it here11:39
xkr47thanks!11:40
xkr47have a nice day11:40
Jopeyou too :-)11:40
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Nc_Seems Linus Torvalds is not into redundant infrastructure ... https://plus.google.com/u/0/+LinusTorvalds/posts/RzSZFYWn7sX12:03
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pp_you need quite a bit, even if he had an aeropress his grinder could break12:04
Nc_:)12:06
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dr_gogeta86the 32M$ is out ? http://fullcirclemagazine.org/2015/01/26/ubuntu-phone-specs/#12:39
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Nicd-sad, only 1 GB memory12:40
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dr_gogeta86just put out some upgrade kit for cameras 13mpix12:40
dr_gogeta86is like mine12:40
TofeNc_: that's what happens when finnish people can't get access to a coffee cup: drama.12:42
Nc_Tofe, yeah, I hear those finnes are really into coffee12:42
TofeThat's the correct way to say it, yes :)12:43
Nc_what the funk you need 13mpix camera for?12:43
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Stskeepsi just want a single pixel camera.12:44
Nc_and then wave it around a lot?12:44
Stskeepswell that's what you'd think..12:44
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dr_gogeta86Stskeeps, this one12:45
dr_gogeta86http://hackaday.com/2015/01/21/diy-single-pixel-digital-camera/12:45
pp_nothing wrong with a really good camera on a phone, just be prepared to pay & have it be a bit thick12:45
Stskeepshttp://www.dpreview.com/articles/1708147654/bell-labs-creates-lensless-single-pixel-camera12:45
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pp_http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/ has a nice article about smartphone camera tech, alas it's a bit nasty to read as the guy rants a "bit" too much :-)12:46
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Stskeepstomi's awesome to read.. when drunk12:46
Stskeeps:P12:46
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dr_gogeta86Stskeeps, i just wanna something usable by my gf12:47
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minimecrica logitech hub13:08
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TMavicajust tried facebook lite, it is much better in Jolla14:20
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falfai've never used facebook14:45
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Aciid> device that respects your freedoms15:00
Aciid> install facebook15:00
Aciid> 201515:01
ursisn't facebook down anyway? :)15:02
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Aciidwho knows15:03
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SK_workurs: it's up again15:07
ggabrielyou can always use facebook through a browser fwiw15:08
tadzik> respects your freedom15:08
tadzikreally15:08
tadzikplease explain how you have more control over your data using a proprietary OS on a closed hardware than using an external service15:09
Stskeepstadzik: strace? ;>15:09
tadzikheh :)15:09
ggabrieltadzik: because nine eleven15:09
tadzikJolla did nine eleven?15:10
ggabrieli was going to suggest tcpdump but it's all the same15:10
ggabrieltadzik: i guess i'm quoting some family guy episode15:10
tadzikggabriel: I was thinking something along this15:10
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kimmolikjokinie: Is there a way to read eeprom vendor/product id's? in sysfs toh-core.0/ these are 440 root,root so nemo can't even read them :(18:54
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eyea_UKJolla )0!1@ joh19:35
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eyea_UKwhen is the next update due19:36
eyea_UKany idea what will be added functionally19:37
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raa700it shall be out when it's done19:45
raa700probably soon(tm)19:45
mornfalla roadmap was floated somewhere19:46
mornfalltmo probably?19:46
eyea_UKgood19:47
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mornfallwell, it was rather underwhelming19:48
Nightmare__rule #1: don't ask for it :) rule#2 don't exploit linux bugs just before a release19:49
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* teve gives CVE-2015-0235 to Nightmare__ :-)19:51
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Nightmare__:D #sailfishos [20:40:23] <Stskeeps> i am starting to think there's a conspiracy towards sending those just before we do updates19:51
eyea_UKI always ask #19:55
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r0kk3rzwell its a good thing that they're getting exploited20:01
r0kk3rzthen they're getting fixed20:01
r0kk3rzrather than remaining silent20:02
ShadowJKWeird, youtube stopped working in sailfish browser20:06
ShadowJKsays unsupported mime type20:06
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ShadowJKhm, works in android firefox beta20:22
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trigpointSame for me, have tried stuff that has worked20:26
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falfaShadowJK: try switching to the HD setting for youtube in the browser20:31
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ShadowJKIt was already at HQ20:32
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falfaok, it worked for me to switch20:32
falfaprobably just luck20:32
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ShadowJKok this seems to have worked: switch off HQ, reload site, switch on HQ, reload, reload, reload20:33
ShadowJK:D20:33
falfahehe20:33
ShadowJKI'd use YTPlayer, but playback stops when you switch off screen :-(20:33
TeguShadowJK: there's an option if you slide up (iirc? maybe some other direction)20:34
Teguoption to keep on playing when switching20:34
Teguit's a bit hidden,yea. could be the default imho20:35
ShadowJKoh I see it20:35
ShadowJKBut I can't figure out how to slide up without seeking20:35
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ShadowJKah there we go20:35
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sebsebsebsledges: ping20:48
sledgessebsebseb: pong20:48
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sebsebsebsledges: yes the one I met?  I remember there was smene with a simlar name to in here20:49
sebsebsebsledges: if you want a good dinner on the Friday.... I just found out about one :)20:50
sebsebsebsledges: or are you the wrong person?20:51
sledgessebsebseb: we'll be min 4 people and friday will be pretty much ad-hoc20:52
sebsebsebsledges: well turns out20:52
sebsebsebRMS20:52
sebsebsebis speaking between 4pm to 6pm20:53
sebsebsebat another univeristy20:53
sebsebseband then FSF people etc are having a big meal at another place20:53
sebsebsebnear the beer event20:53
sebsebsebstarting 6:3020:53
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sledgessebsebseb: are you still on about friday?20:53
sebsebsebsledges: so looks like that's the  one to go to really20:53
sebsebsebyes on Friday20:53
sledgesi thought friday hasn't got talks20:53
sebsebsebso did I20:53
sebsebseb,but it does well one anyway20:54
sebsebsebRMS20:54
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sebsebsebsledges: I gues you may miss the talk https://www.fsf.org/events/rms-20150130-brussels20:54
sebsebseb,but could get to the meal20:54
sebsebsebI think20:54
sebsebsebsledges: apparnatly some of the smalelr groups have asked if they can just go to this big meal that's going on and well yep20:55
sebsebseband  it's at a massive place to20:55
sebsebsebsledges: so I am about to book my ticket for that I think :)20:55
sledgesticket?20:55
sebsebsebhttps://twitter.com/fsf/status/56014899380487782620:56
sebsebsebhttp://sfconservancy.org/supporter/event.html20:56
sebsebsebsee links :)20:56
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sebsebsebsledges: apparnatly it's cheaper to pre book20:56
sebsebsebplus then will have a place for sure :)20:57
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sledgessebsebseb: thanks, i'll have a word with other co-travellers, might just mingle at the door on the night20:59
sebsebsebsledges: at the door for?20:59
sledgesthe dinner20:59
sebsebsebsledges: yeah or just book into the dinner20:59
sebsebsebeat there :)20:59
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sebsebsebsledges: what was the link to the Jolla Saturay night dinner?22:27
sledgessebsebseb: https://together.jolla.com/question/77616/whos-actually-coming-to-the-mersailfish-meal-at-fosdem/22:27
sebsebsebsledges: yeah that or  whatever Mageia is doing  for  Saturday I think,  or  maybe something someone linked me to earlier, but that was something else22:29
sebsebsebnot sure what Magiea is doing22:29
* sebsebseb should probably look at log for yesterdays council meeting...22:29
sledgessebsebseb: the last call for menu choices was today, check with lbt - we need numbers in advance hence the whole wiki there..22:30
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sebsebsebsledges: yeah22:32
sebsebsebwho's lbt?22:32
sledgesDavid Greaves22:33
sebsebsebsledges: what's the IRC nick or contact?22:34
sledgeslbt22:34
sebsebseband shame a lot of these French Magiea people are so disorniaged22:34
sebsebsebb,ut I guess it's just  that pizza place  on other side of Brussels  this year in that case,  more of a reaosn to go some where else then in a way, already been there22:34
sebsebsebalready had meals with htat group last three years22:35
* sebsebseb like meeting new people :)22:35
* sebsebseb isn't really that intersted in Mageia as well anymore, to many community side issues uh22:35
sebsebsebsledges: Jolla is more intersting :)22:37
sledgessebsebseb: add your name and menu choice to the wiki then22:38
sebsebseblast year I thought GNOME dinner maybe, but didn't go to that22:38
sebsebsebI mean if could have got on..22:38
sebsebsebsledges: well would be the veggie menu22:42
sebsebsebwhy does that seem to be more expensive than the rest hmm, oh well22:43
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sebsebsebnot sure about that yet, but yes maybe22:44
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sebsebsebI think what I am sure about is FRiday though :)22:45
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sebsebsebsledges: by the way my sim card,  was wrong way round, that was the problem with that22:47
sledgesoh, i thought i noticed the icon there, but oh well, good it sorted22:48
sebsebsebalso whats' nice is my other phone is  actsauly unlocked already it turns out22:48
sebsebsebso no fee to unlock it :)22:48
sebsebsebso yeah I'll switch network  a bit after getting back from Brussels,  since still got to pay them a bit more anyway22:49
sebsebsebsledges: I have a standard sim from that network to, that can the ting out fo r the microsim to,  yeah so can acsauly start using that Jolla pone as a phone next month then  :)22:50
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sebsebseblbt: so I am a maybe for the dinner, if there' still a place. Not sure what this other project is doing yet for Saturdya night.22:53
sebsebsebsledges: are you going to start coming along ot the LUG often? and the other guy to possibly?22:54
sebsebsebby  the way I was thinking the other day that maybe Jolla should have a stand at OGG Camp latter on this  year :)22:54
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sebsebsebbiggest community  organised open source event in UK,  however  since  Jolla is commerical really,  I  guess should sponser it a bit realy to in that case,  but would be a good way to sprad interest more22:55
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sledgesinteresting23:07
sebsebsebsledges: what is OGG Camp or?23:08
sledgesyes23:08
sebsebsebsledges: I have had the idea last well since 2012 really to possibly have a Mageia stand there,  but I woudn't run on my own,  and  there is no one else pperly intereted it seems, well ok maybe one guy,  but  yeah they are just usels really prmoting it taking oppertunies to get it out there more outside of  France,  Brussels,   Germany, oh well23:09
sebsebseboh yeah when I did a public spech about it locally and got a video,  apparnatly that wasn't good enough to get mentioend in a blog post about events23:10
* sebsebseb likes a project that actsaully knows how to run communites properly :)23:10
sebsebsebor if comercial knows how to deal with customers properly :)23:10
sebsebsebsledges: Open SUSE had one in 2012 for OGG Camp.  there's a guy who runs one for Fedora last two years, and he'll probably again,  but yeah pretty much anything can have a stand there really if it's related to  open source23:11
sebsebseband it's attended by loads of people who are interestd in phones23:12
sebsebseband things like that23:12
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sebsebsebsledges: you haevn't been to any UK open sourcey type events then?23:13
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sledgesuk sailors were to xda:devcon23:13
sebsebseboh23:13
sebsebseb,but yes OGG Camp would be a great opperutnity to get more Jolla interet out there,  however as I put earlier,  since Jolla is commerial really,  I think should sponser it a bit really to in that case, if having a tand there,   or if people doing talks there even possibly23:14
sebsebsebcould even put ina jolla prize or a few to the raffle :)23:14
sledgessebsebseb: i'll raise this with community events sailors and sailorettes ( cybette & iekku )23:14
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sebsebsebyes sounds good to me :)23:15
sledgesnow we're concentrating on fosdem and mwc ;)23:15
sebsebsebyeah where's Mobile World Congress anyway?23:16
sledgesbarsa isn't it23:16
sebsebsebwell  OGG Camp won't be untill like October or something like that again, but yeah wanted to tell you about my idea now :)23:16
sebsebsebbarsa???23:16
sebsebsebhmm will have a Jolla tablet by  then to :D23:16
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sebsebsebsledges: also there's probably going to be another Bristol IT Mega Meet this year to in like May/June  I am not sure yet,  but could be a good place to get some Jolla intrest to,  but for commerical stuff have to sponser to get a talk slot,  be it a lightning or longer one23:19
sebsebsebyes events are fun :)23:19
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