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sledges | marc is up! | 13:08 |
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sledges | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cx2FXYNzsrM | 13:08 |
sledges | those who missed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=cx2FXYNzsrM#t=8074 | 13:10 |
sledges | :) | 13:10 |
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Mikaela | does anyone have any idea on running unbound or dnsmasq on Jolla? | 13:22 |
Mikaela | Or how do I see what DNS servers it thinks it's using and how would I go changing those? | 13:22 |
Sail0r | it's done by connman | 13:23 |
Sail0r | connman is running as a local dns proxy | 13:24 |
falfa | it's a trap! | 13:24 |
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Mikaela | connman feels a little like trap as many WLAN networks are broken and I think it has something to do with the DNS servers those try to use | 13:26 |
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pp | the opt-in has a bug if there's only one dns server AFAIK | 13:32 |
Sail0r | Nameservers = [ 2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::2222 192.168.0.242 ] | 13:32 |
Sail0r | ;) | 13:33 |
Mikaela | which file has that? | 13:33 |
Sail0r | you need to install connman-test and run /usr/lib/connman/test/get-services | grep Nameservers | 13:33 |
Mikaela | checking | 13:34 |
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chem|st | pp: if the AP provides one dns... it is the APs fault | 13:37 |
Sail0r | one dns is normal for home env | 13:38 |
chem|st | Sail0r: ehrm, untouched routers get two dns from the provider end... | 13:39 |
Sail0r | but most only broadcast themself to the connected devices | 13:39 |
Sail0r | so one is shown on the devices | 13:39 |
pp | ya, could be only cellular that's affected tho: https://together.jolla.com/question/82147/bug-no-data-connection-after-update-rc-11215/ | 13:39 |
Mikaela | these appear to be network specific. How would I enforce some nameservers to every network? | 13:40 |
Mikaela | and put the unbound what I am putting everywhere there | 13:40 |
Sail0r | https://together.jolla.com/question/82147/bug-no-data-connection-after-update-rc-11215/ | 13:41 |
Sail0r | for every network in /var/lib/connman set a static nameserver | 13:41 |
Sail0r | or in the default.profile | 13:41 |
Mikaela | I mean for every network at the same time, not per-network | 13:42 |
Sail0r | which i would not recommend | 13:42 |
Sail0r | I cannot recommend setting a static dns for everything | 13:42 |
Sail0r | maybe some providers block DNS to other servers then themself | 13:42 |
chem|st | how do I list nameservers that connman sees? | 13:42 |
Mikaela | how about GUI-option where I can set specific DNS servers to networks that don't work | 13:42 |
Sail0r | chem|st: 14:33:42 Sail0r: you need to install connman-test and run /usr/lib/connman/test/get-services | grep Nameservers | 13:42 |
Sail0r | Mikaela: there is a gui but only to specify everything manual | 13:43 |
Sail0r | because it's very uncommon that IP is provided with DHCP but nameservers not | 13:44 |
Mikaela | examples of networks that don't work: Pasaati Free, POHJOLAN_LIIKENNE, Forum Free | 13:44 |
Mikaela | I don't know if anything is surely wrong with those networks, but I think at least one laptop user successfully used POHJOLAN_LIIKENNE and my Jolla shouldn't be having any weird WLAN issues as HUSGUEST worked (I was in air place mode, but I don't think that affects anything) | 13:44 |
Sail0r | you need to get an debug output | 13:44 |
Sail0r | why nameservers are not set | 13:45 |
Sail0r | everything else is only a workaround which could lead to even more problems then it solves | 13:45 |
Mikaela | oh and Kamppi Free didn't work either, but these networks are about ~200 KM away from me so I cannot test and home network with everything manual works | 13:45 |
Mikaela | Pasaati Free is in this city, but not so near and I wouldn't have any reason to go there now | 13:46 |
Sail0r | install connman-tracing | 13:46 |
Sail0r | and see what it spits out on event of fail | 13:46 |
Mikaela | how do I use that? I also probably won't be in area of those networks in near future | 13:47 |
Sail0r | it will log to journalctl | 13:49 |
Sail0r | you can search the logs afterwards | 13:49 |
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Mikaela | I see | 13:49 |
Mikaela | is connman DNSSEC aware? | 13:52 |
Sail0r | don't know and don't really care ^^ | 13:52 |
locusf | don't you need the additional software package for dnssec, at least in openwrt one does need it | 13:56 |
locusf | ? | 13:56 |
locusf | (I've got dnscrypt in my router) | 13:56 |
locusf | so I guess were talking about different things now | 13:56 |
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urs | Is there any way to silence calendar notifications, if you missed the initial dialogue for them? | 14:35 |
urs | Like, I set a calender notification, it notifies me, I reflexively press the wakeup button on the phone, it goes away unconfirmed | 14:35 |
urs | and then bothers me again after 5 minutes | 14:35 |
flux | well, you can remove the calendar entry itself I think 8-) | 14:36 |
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Joonaa | urs: that has to be some of the worst functionality after the "unlock phone after ive locked it" when adding/removing headphones | 16:57 |
Joonaa | i always press it because the screen doesnt wake up first | 16:57 |
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xkr47 | interesting, my phone is showing a pulley menu in the lock screen with an option to "Close All" | 18:26 |
xkr47 | I guess I might have accidentally activated the "close apps" mode and then left the phone long enough for it to lock | 18:26 |
xkr47 | will try to reproduce and will file a bug if my guess was right | 18:27 |
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inte | just got a notification for a new update | 20:02 |
inte | is it safe? (early access) | 20:02 |
HtheB | yes | 20:02 |
Mikaela | no issues here | 20:02 |
HtheB | check out the release notes | 20:02 |
inte | 1.2.16 | 20:02 |
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inte | it only says itll enhance stability:) | 20:03 |
chem|st | inte: mail login fix and mobile-data dns patch | 20:03 |
inte | oh sorry just saw there is a more complete note:) | 20:04 |
inte | cool thx!! | 20:04 |
inte | no need zo unpatch patchmanager patches then, i presume | 20:04 |
Scelt | inte: better unpatch them | 20:05 |
Tegu | and they might not work in the new version | 20:05 |
inte | ok i will | 20:05 |
inte | as always:) | 20:05 |
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inte | installed! | 20:19 |
inte | all patch seem to work as well:) | 20:19 |
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inte | the update includes a bugfix for jolla keyboard | 20:20 |
inte | i hope this will fix the vk-still-active-but-not-visible issue | 20:21 |
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stephg | inte: I think I just saw that just before the update | 21:12 |
stephg | cover gestures work, as do swipes but can't do anything in-app? | 21:12 |
inte | yes exactely | 21:12 |
inte | put it on tjc a couple of days ago | 21:13 |
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inte | mh. are there issues with cut and paste with the most recent update? | 21:26 |
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Mikaela | were OS changelogs visible somewhere in Jolla itself without opening web browser? | 21:30 |
Mikaela | and this one doesn't want to remove that notice on update being available even if I just installed it | 21:30 |
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inte | the update notification is gone | 21:39 |
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inte | cutn paste is broken for me now, though | 21:40 |
inte | don't know if it's related | 21:40 |
j-doge | inte: how is it broken? | 21:40 |
inte | doesn't take new copies once it got one in | 21:41 |
inte | i did the first cnp | 21:41 |
inte | worked fine | 21:41 |
inte | however, i can still paste the content now | 21:42 |
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inte | but i can't replace it with sth. else | 21:42 |
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j-doge | well that does sound a bit bad :/ | 21:42 |
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inte | no problems for you after you installed the update? | 21:43 |
j-doge | inte: can you empty the clipboard? | 21:43 |
inte | how do i do that? | 21:43 |
j-doge | tap and hold the clipboard icon, slide your finger over 'Empty clipboard' when it pops up | 21:44 |
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inte | ah, that worked | 21:44 |
inte | well ok | 21:45 |
inte | no it didn't | 21:45 |
inte | clipboard is gone after erase | 21:46 |
kimmoli | clipboard gets occassionally broken. and sometimes it just also gets back working | 21:46 |
kimmoli | lipstick restart helps | 21:46 |
inte | but when trying to refill it it still has the old content again | 21:46 |
inte | kimmoli ah thank so no relation to the current release | 21:47 |
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inte | does home refresh work as well? | 21:47 |
j-doge | I'll just poke somebody about it tomorrow... | 21:47 |
inte | great thing thanks! | 21:47 |
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kimmoli | https://together.jolla.com/question/24697/regression-copy-and-paste-broken/ | 21:48 |
kimmoli | at least | 21:48 |
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inte | yeah works again after home refresh:) | 21:50 |
kimmoli | what you mean with home refreeh? | 21:50 |
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inte | i inatalled the home refresh app | 21:53 |
inte | very usefull since my keyboard frequently crash | 21:53 |
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inte | kimmoli: https://together.jolla.com/question/80738/jolla-screen-becomes-unresponsive-in-various-scenarious/ | 21:55 |
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inte | kimmoli: https://openrepos.net/content/schturman/homescreen-refresher | 22:01 |
kimmoli | yes, that seems to restart lipstick | 22:02 |
kimmoli | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=92487 | 22:02 |
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inte | ah cool | 22:03 |
inte | so restarting lipstick will also close all open apps? | 22:04 |
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inte | yeah it does:) | 22:07 |
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kimmoli | dunno is the bug in lipstick handling clipboard, or in QGuiApplication::clipboard() which it uses | 22:21 |
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Linnak | Are there any jolla tablet review videos on the internet? | 22:40 |
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J4ZZ | Hi sailors, I could need some help with troubleshooting my /home/nemo/android_storage fuse mount... I already consultated chemist over at tjc but we couldn't fix it... | 23:46 |
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