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Stskeeps | free! unlimited! wifi! | 14:05 |
Stskeeps | * lasts only for an hour | 14:05 |
merlin1991 | the way to go | 14:05 |
merlin1991 | and thjen | 14:06 |
merlin1991 | macchange :D | 14:06 |
Stskeeps | yeah.. | 14:07 |
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tiwake | what kernel is SailfishOS running on? | 16:09 |
ninnnu | uname -a on 1.1.2.16 (latest stable) says 3.4.98.20141219.1.1 | 16:11 |
tiwake | ok | 16:11 |
tiwake | 4.0 is rolling out soon evidently | 16:12 |
tbr | tiwake: this depends on the actual device, aka hw adaptation | 16:12 |
tiwake | how about the tablet? | 16:13 |
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Stskeeps | 3.10 i think? | 16:16 |
Stskeeps | 3.10.20 | 16:16 |
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arnej | Maybe it's possible that one day the Jolla phone can run freedreno and also use a newer kernel then | 17:48 |
coderus | jolla? | 17:49 |
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coderus | you think freedreno will give enough fps? | 17:50 |
tbr | coderus: those open source drivers can be surprisingly good. I've seen some demos. Don't remember of which. It's probably more about getting it right and not glitching etc | 17:56 |
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tbr | the problem is often about being production grade in the right time frame. | 18:01 |
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arnej | They are maturing at the moment. It's not yet ready to fully replace the blob but I read some blog post that showed that it can compete in many ways and sometimes even outperform the blob | 18:07 |
tbr | yeah, and the jolla shipped over one year ago and was in development for roughly 2. so the driver would be already 2 years late for inclusion into a product. Sadly. | 18:15 |
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arnej | This was the blog post I read: http://bloggingthemonkey.blogspot.de/2014/10/freedreno-update.html | 18:18 |
r0kk3rz | no major reason why someone couldnt roll it into the HAL for the Jolla | 18:33 |
r0kk3rz | probably too much work for Jolla to do themselves | 18:33 |
r0kk3rz | for not much (if any) gain | 18:34 |
tbr | ack, if then it's a community effort | 18:34 |
r0kk3rz | or even if not the Jolla, roll it into a port of some kind | 18:37 |
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tbr | same thing for the jolla tablet. It's been theorized, that running a) vanilla kernel b) a mesa graphics stack will be possible. let's see... | 18:39 |
tbr | it sure is possible on the very close relative, the minnowboard max | 18:40 |
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wmarone_ | well | 18:42 |
wmarone_ | it's an x86 processor with an intel GPU | 18:42 |
wmarone_ | running an open graphics stack and bleeding edge kernel should be possible | 18:43 |
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arnej | The benefit would be that there would be one less reason for not upgrading the kernel | 18:50 |
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r0kk3rz | yeah but one less != zero. and we've had the discussion before that jolla doesnt really appear to have much time for things that are not of clear immediate benefit | 18:59 |
M4rtinK | r0kk3rz: yep, that has been painfully evident lately | 19:00 |
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r0kk3rz | M4rtinK: im sure they've gone into tablet crunch mode by now | 19:08 |
r0kk3rz | which is understandable | 19:08 |
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M4rtinK | I just hope it wort result in many unmaintainable hacks | 19:11 |
M4rtinK | like Android 3.0 back then | 19:11 |
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r0kk3rz | yeah who knows | 19:32 |
r0kk3rz | but since they've already shown sfos2.0 running on the jolla phone, at least it shouldnt be a fork of unmaintainable hacks | 19:33 |
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M4rtinK | yeah, hopefully not :) | 19:33 |
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