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| flux | soo, my jolla -applications- stopped responding to touch, but jolla lipstick responds fine. any logs I should pick up?-) | 04:45 |
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| flux | buggy time sync?-o Apr 21 08:01:39 Jolla systemd[1]: Time has been changed Apr 21 08:01:39 Jolla systemd[963]: Time has been changed many times in a row. | 05:02 |
| flux | regardless, my logs don't reach as far as when the trouble started, so I'll just reboot. | 05:03 |
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| Nicd- | seems OOM has taken a turn for the worse again with the latest update :/ | 05:12 |
| Stskeeps | wasn't even touched afaik | 05:12 |
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| Nicd- | now browsing reddit keeps killing my other apps | 05:12 |
| Nicd- | and when I have two tabs the first one is almost always zombified when I get back to it | 05:12 |
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| Nicd- | with previous update the zombifying used to happen more only after about a week of uptime | 05:13 |
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| Nicd- | maybe it's something else then but I run the same apps and now the experience is much worse | 05:16 |
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| Venemo | good morning | 07:38 |
| Stskeeps | good morning venemo | 07:38 |
| Venemo | so, facebook account on the jolla became quite useless, I see :( | 07:38 |
| Venemo | hey Stskeeps :) | 07:38 |
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| Stskeeps | Venemo: http://www.eugenewei.com/blog/2015/3/14/platform-risk | 07:39 |
| Stskeeps | is a good read on today's platforms | 07:39 |
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| leinir | it's one of those "other people's computers" problems... | 07:41 |
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| Venemo | leinir: what do you mean? | 07:42 |
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| Venemo | Stskeeps: having read that, I don't think there is any news for me there | 07:44 |
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| leinir | Venemo: that is pretty much what "cloud" translates to... except in this case the problem is "middleware" translating to "software running on other people's computers" | 07:45 |
| Venemo | leinir: sorry, I'm not sure who you mean there by other people | 07:46 |
| locusf | I've got the same problem as flux, lipstick responds to touch but apps dont, this is in raspberry pi 2 | 07:47 |
| leinir | in the case of facebook and twitter, those are platforms which people who you, as a user of their services, have exactly no influence over | 07:48 |
| Venemo | leinir: ah, yes of course | 07:48 |
| Venemo | leinir: ok, got what you meant :) | 07:49 |
| leinir | Venemo: The "other people's computers" thing is what someone did a while ago, a Chrome extension which simply turns all text instances of "the cloud" into "other people's computers" ;) | 07:49 |
| leinir | it's hilarious to read tech blogs with that thing turned on :) | 07:49 |
| leinir | (and a little sad when you realise /why/ it's funny) | 07:50 |
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| Venemo | indeed | 07:51 |
| zutto | that sounds quite funny | 07:51 |
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| Venemo | well, it's not a big deal to lose facebook contacts, but a bit annoying to have lost the portraits of my existing contacts | 07:53 |
| Venemo | it was nice that their avatars got updated automatically when they changed it on facebook | 07:53 |
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| TMavica | Testing | 09:43 |
| Stskeeps | test failed | 09:44 |
| TMavica | I miss u man | 09:46 |
| TMavica | Lok | 09:47 |
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| TMavica | Lol | 09:47 |
| TMavica | Wait in sogo pls | 09:47 |
| TMavica | The Jolla boss in HK invite me to have coffee, still no time to go. 😃 | 09:50 |
| sjtoik | whaaaat? my irssi shows smileys | 09:51 |
| TMavica | Really? Excellent | 09:52 |
| politie | 🔫 | 09:52 |
| sjtoik | didn't know. did you use utf-8 code for that? | 09:52 |
| TMavica | No | 09:52 |
| TMavica | 👍 | 09:53 |
| TMavica | 👎 | 09:53 |
| politie | ♐ | 09:53 |
| TMavica | 💕 | 09:53 |
| Nicd- | haha, I was just talking about this on another channel | 09:53 |
| Nicd- | weechat doesn't show emojis without hacking :( | 09:53 |
| TMavica | I need go to🚽 | 09:54 |
| politie | i got it working in weechat | 09:54 |
| sjtoik | it's 90's quakenet all over again | 09:54 |
| jaacoppi | 7-bit ascii is the only true charset | 09:54 |
| Nicd- | you need to compile and LD_PRELOAD something | 09:54 |
| Nicd- | or maybe use some unreleased version of glibc | 09:55 |
| TMavica | 👅 | 09:55 |
| politie | compiled libwcwidth and set the libwcwidth.so in the ld_preload env | 09:55 |
| Nicd- | yeah, that | 09:55 |
| sjtoik | don't know abou irssi, but i do know that my friend, who is running the server is on maturnity leave | 09:56 |
| Nicd- | politie: where did you get wcwidth from? | 09:57 |
| politie | tough question | 09:58 |
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| politie | i got a link from someone in the weechat channel some time ago | 09:59 |
| politie | i could send you the wcwidth.c if thats enough | 10:01 |
| Nicd- | can you upload it as a gist? | 10:01 |
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| politie | sure | 10:02 |
| TMavica | Weechat? That spy apps? | 10:02 |
| politie | https://gist.github.com/anonymous/86fbc92af5dc48e68812 | 10:04 |
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| Nicd- | TMavica: weechat is an IRC client, it's not wechat :) | 10:06 |
| TMavica | O. Make mistake | 10:07 |
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| wysiwtf | aha! | 13:36 |
| Stskeeps | aha. | 13:38 |
| wysiwtf | what kind of company calls an update Äijänpäivänjärvi? ;p | 13:39 |
| Stskeeps | ours. | 13:39 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 13:39 |
| Nicd- | why not? | 13:39 |
| Nicd- | sadly they are all lake names, I'd love for 1.1.5.25 Paska-Avenue | 13:39 |
| wysiwtf | i have no idea how tat word looks to finns, but to me it looks like i would choke on my tongue when trying to pronounce it ^^ | 13:40 |
| wysiwtf | ah, so thats where it comes from | 13:40 |
| Nicd- | it's a rather peculiar word for Finns too | 13:40 |
| Teme | it is a novelty word in finnish too :) | 13:40 |
| Teme | btw wysiwtf glad you found your way here instead of the first #channel you tried | 13:41 |
| wysiwtf | well you directed me here :p | 13:41 |
| wysiwtf | but the userbase is sliightly bigger so i guess thats where it is =) | 13:41 |
| Teme | it has been a blocker for many people to connect to freenode :D | 13:42 |
| wysiwtf | im already on the network anyway | 13:42 |
| wysiwtf | well i pledged to one of the jolla tablets and was wondering about gpu performance | 13:43 |
| wysiwtf | since i barely cant find any specs for it | 13:43 |
| wysiwtf | -t | 13:43 |
| Stskeeps | intel hd graphics, baytrail | 13:44 |
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| wysiwtf | that shouldnt perform too shabby compared to the powervr cores in the arm devices, shouldnt it? | 13:45 |
| Stskeeps | the court hasn't come to a verdict yet | 13:45 |
| Stskeeps | a 2K display really makes life fun | 13:45 |
| wysiwtf | =) | 13:46 |
| ggabriel | well, intel hd could at least play 1080p pretty well for a good while | 13:46 |
| ggabriel | not sure about 3d | 13:46 |
| ggabriel | and not sure how it compares | 13:46 |
| Stskeeps | not worried about the video decoder, that's a seperate chip usually | 13:46 |
| wysiwtf | what about 3d in combination with the android compatability, eg android games | 13:46 |
| ggabriel | tbd :)) | 13:47 |
| ggabriel | (when i get my tablet) | 13:47 |
| wysiwtf | would be fun | 13:47 |
| wysiwtf | but i havent had the pleasure of playing around with a sailfish device yet, so im not sure about the limitations | 13:48 |
| ggabriel | there was an improvement in graphics performance in alien dalvik in the jolla (early days) | 13:48 |
| ggabriel | but then again, that's arm | 13:48 |
| ggabriel | not sure what the hal is like in the tablet | 13:48 |
| wysiwtf | well i had a yoga3 for a couple of weeks | 13:50 |
| wysiwtf | it had one of these fancy ultra low voltage core m cpus | 13:50 |
| wysiwtf | but the gfx performance was not too bad | 13:51 |
| wysiwtf | so if the hal of the os doesnt eat it all up (and there are sufficient drivers) it should be possible to run a lot of stuff | 13:51 |
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| iekku | SailfishOS, open source, collaboration, meeting is ongoing at #mer-meeting | 15:03 |
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| zorael | Is it just me or does 1.1.4 burn through the battery something fierce? | 16:29 |
| zorael | msr doesn't seem to be compiled in so can't see what's up with powertop | 16:29 |
| zorael | Thought I'd ask before doing a factory reset | 16:30 |
| zorael | (burn through as in, feels sort of hot in your pocket, lasts through ~20h of idle use) | 16:31 |
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| PeperJohnny | zorael: didn't feel like it | 16:33 |
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| jaacoppi | I haven't noticed it either, battery lasts for 2-3 days | 17:05 |
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| zorael | resetting then | 17:48 |
| zorael | can't hurt | 17:48 |
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| sakustar | whos in charge of patch names | 19:39 |
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| r0kk3rz | jibbers is | 19:47 |
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| sakustar | when will our "private" lake be a patch name :( | 19:51 |
| sakustar | private as in no one else has a pier or boat there | 19:51 |
| r0kk3rz | maybe once it goes proper | 19:55 |
| r0kk3rz | not sure what they normally do with patch manager | 19:55 |
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| kimmoli | Paint translation, 1 new string, ~10 languages needs your help! https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/paint/ | 20:42 |
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| coderus | ~10, lol. who cares. :D | 20:45 |
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| FireFly | Ergh, I can't be bothered to setup an account for that | 21:09 |
| FireFly | Oh great, now it won't allow me to visit pages without continuing to create an account.. | 21:10 |
| FireFly | >.< | 21:10 |
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| toerb | kimmoli: you have to add me to the project | 21:12 |
| toerb | not really good this platform | 21:13 |
| toerb | would like github and pull requests more | 21:13 |
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| kimmoli | toerb: added you to team... | 21:19 |
| kimmoli | too many different languages already to easily manage it with gh/pr | 21:20 |
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| kimmoli | transifex is sometimes little pita to use, or atleast find your way to certain page, e.g. approving your request to join the team, there is no shortcut from inbox... | 21:21 |
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| M4rtinK | anybody building Harbour compatible packages on OBS ? | 22:19 |
| M4rtinK | I'm kinda starting to think its fundamentally impossible due to automatic requires :) | 22:19 |
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| coderus | M4rtinK: sure, why not | 22:28 |
| coderus | a lot of projects | 22:28 |
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| M4rtinK | coderus: https://together.jolla.com/question/90564/bugit-is-impossible-to-build-harbour-compatible-packages-on-mer-obs/ | 22:36 |
| M4rtinK | coderus: OBS adds some dependencies automatically and that breaks Harbour | 22:37 |
| coderus | use rules properly | 22:37 |
| coderus | %define __provides_exclude_from ^%{_datadir}/.*$ | 22:37 |
| coderus | %define __requires_exclude ^libwa-qt5.*|libaxolotl.*|libcurve25519.*$ | 22:38 |
| coderus | like this | 22:38 |
| coderus | rpmlintrc can be neded too | 22:39 |
| M4rtinK | coderus: thanks, I'll try that :) | 22:40 |
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| M4rtinK | coderus: actually you can even uninstall rpmlint :) | 22:42 |
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| M4rtinK | coderus: adding /bin/bash and /usr/bin/env to the __requires_exclude macro did the trick | 23:12 |
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| M4rtinK | coderus: so thanks a lot yet again! :) | 23:12 |
| coderus | why it added it to requires? :O | 23:13 |
| M4rtinK | coderus: there is probably a shell script somewhere in the source | 23:17 |
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| M4rtinK | but I can really be bothered to exclude it after wasting so much time to make modRana Harbour compliant :) | 23:19 |
| M4rtinK | I actually fully expect the Harbour QA to have some weird requirements | 23:20 |
| M4rtinK | would be too easy otherwise :D | 23:20 |
| coderus | M4rtinK: libwa-qt5/libaxolotl/libcurve is libs from my project for example :) | 23:26 |
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| coderus | if you bundling any libs you need to list them here | 23:26 |
| coderus | edited your text in tjc :) | 23:28 |
| M4rtinK | thanks! :) | 23:28 |
| M4rtinK | I was not sure about the syntax so I just pasted the whole thing :) | 23:29 |
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| coderus | it regexp :) | 23:30 |
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| M4rtinK | anyway, time to sleep :D | 23:35 |
| coderus | yeah, but i have a lot of work :) | 23:36 |
| M4rtinK | good night! :) | 23:40 |
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