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tschak | My Jolla phone’s speakers no longer work, as does vibration ringing (silence) | 00:14 |
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tschak | but the earpiece still works | 00:14 |
tschak | i’ve had it with this phone. | 00:14 |
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FireFly | :( | 00:36 |
FireFly | Understandable I guess, maybe contact care | 00:36 |
FireFly | I've yet to encounter hardware issues luckily | 00:36 |
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Teme | same here *knocks wood* | 05:18 |
zutto | :P | 05:19 |
zutto | my touch screen stopped working some weeks ago after the UI crashed | 05:20 |
Stskeeps | contacting care is always first step | 05:20 |
zutto | and the recovery images didnt work, havent been bothered to send it anywhere yet | 05:20 |
Stskeeps | as they filter out and then the really nasty cases make it to us in development | 05:22 |
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Tegu | noow this is somewhat iteresting :D the covers got stuck to the same position but I could still scroll in menus. and I cannot open the apps from covers. https://photos-6.dropbox.com/t/2/AADMWgx9xakcSTFDweBQSZsNTA86h1SDPKI2IfWBCzoIwg/12/16404117/png/1024x768/3/1429686000/0/2/20150422082118.png/CJWd6QcgASACIAMoASgC/Ek2x29OrbFhTbDEkRxyHS-rLRNBNsY4VBhvIqDrGknU | 05:43 |
Tegu | augh, massive link :( anyway, that came when I opened twitch and some other app got closed (probably due to memory) | 05:44 |
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Sail0r | hm nice https://together.jolla.com/question/90275/bug-calendar-duplicates-on-every-sync/ also had this now ... | 06:29 |
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kimmoli | help. Where i configure usb as PC-mode connection as default (i'm on recovery console, mounted rootfs) | 06:34 |
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kimmoli | background: touchscreen is broken, and i can't tap on "pc connection" when it asks | 06:35 |
Stskeeps | phdeswer: ^ | 06:36 |
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pp | dbus-send <magic> | 06:37 |
* pp hides | 06:37 | |
kimmoli | pp: better to hide | 06:37 |
phdeswer | kimmoli: vi /etc/usb-moded/usb-moded.ini and change ask into pc_suite | 06:37 |
phdeswer | Also works with usb_moded_util or dbus | 06:37 |
kimmoli | in recovery? | 06:38 |
phdeswer | well vi should be your best bet then | 06:38 |
kimmoli | yep | 06:38 |
kimmoli | :wq | 06:38 |
Sail0r | wtf why does the damn calendar show the tutorial each time I start it | 06:40 |
Sail0r | and it's starting the alarm ui every 2 seconds according to journalctl -f oO | 06:42 |
Sail0r | and it's getting hotter and hotter | 06:42 |
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Sail0r | this is running at 100% all the time /usr/bin/timed-qt5 --systemd | 06:43 |
kimmoli | phdeswer: thanks. do i need developer mode to enable ssh over usb? | 06:48 |
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Sail0r | https://together.jolla.com/question/90577/calendar-events-not-showing-and-usrbintimed-qt5-systemd-running-at-100/ | 06:52 |
phdeswer | kimmoli: yep. Same thing, edit the same file and change it to developer_moded | 06:54 |
phdeswer | -d | 06:54 |
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kimmoli | aaa | 06:54 |
kimmoli | "developer_mode" if i deleted correct d | 06:55 |
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Sail0r | damn what did the break -.- | 06:56 |
Sail0r | now calendars start duplicating again | 06:56 |
phdeswer | kimmoli: yes | 06:57 |
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Nicd- | maybe jolla didn't touch the OOM in the latest update but something has happened to my browser then | 07:45 |
Nicd- | had it kill itself and two other apps yesterday when browsing i.reddit.com and opening an image from imgur | 07:45 |
Nicd- | at the time OOM killed it the browser was using 405 megabytes :| | 07:45 |
Stskeeps | opt-in? file notices | 07:45 |
Nicd- | opt-in yeah. should I just write to tjc? | 07:46 |
Stskeeps | nod | 07:46 |
Nicd- | I don't have any output now but I'll see if I have time to get something reproducible | 07:47 |
Sail0r | Stskeeps: can you have a look at https://together.jolla.com/question/90577/calendar-events-not-showing-and-usrbintimed-qt5-systemd-running-at-100/ ? | 07:49 |
Sail0r | my phone started to be completly unusable when duplication reached about 800 calendars | 07:49 |
Sail0r | had to ssh in and delete the db and disable the account via ag-tools | 07:50 |
Stskeeps | fwed | 07:50 |
Stskeeps | d | 07:50 |
Stskeeps | i'm not touching timed, i don't have enough money to pay for the therapist hours needed | 07:50 |
Stskeeps | :P | 07:50 |
Sail0r | xD | 07:50 |
Sail0r | but maybe you know someone who worked on the calendar | 07:50 |
Sail0r | even after deleting everything from the calendar app, db and so on | 07:51 |
Sail0r | after adding another owncloud again duplicating starts again each sync | 07:51 |
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chriadam | Sail0r: urgh. | 07:53 |
chriadam | every sync duplicates a calendar?> | 07:53 |
Sail0r | yep | 07:53 |
chriadam | I should just rewrite the caldav plugin and fix it properly :-/ | 07:54 |
Sail0r | i have 4 calendars on owncloud after 2nd sync jolla shows 8 after another sync 12 and so on | 07:54 |
chriadam | sick of hacking on it. | 07:54 |
Sail0r | hehe | 07:54 |
chriadam | can you do the following: | 07:54 |
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chriadam | $ devel-su rm -rf /home/nemo/.local/share/system/privileged/Calendars/caldav-sync.db /home/nemo/.local/share/system/privileged/Calendars/caldav-sync.db-shm /home/nemo/.local/share/system/privileged/Calendars/caldav-sync.db-wal | 07:57 |
chriadam | $ systemctl --user stop msyncd | 07:57 |
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chriadam | $ killall msyncd # might say "msyncd: no such process" if so, just ignore | 07:57 |
chriadam | $ MSYNCD_LOGGING_LEVEL=8 KCALDEBUG=1 devel-su -p msyncd | 07:57 |
chriadam | then in a different terminal: | 07:57 |
chriadam | $ devel-su journalctl -af | grep caldav | 07:58 |
Sail0r | kk | 07:58 |
chriadam | then if you don't care about other calendars on your device: | 07:58 |
chriadam | $ devel-su rm -rf /home/nemo/.local/share/system/privileged/Calendar/ | 07:58 |
chriadam | otherwise, if you do have important data in there, just ignore that. but nicer if we can start from clean state. | 07:59 |
chriadam | then finally, trigger sync (settings|accounts->longpress caldav -> sync) | 07:59 |
chriadam | then send me the logs from the journalctl terminal -> chris dot adams at jolla dot com | 07:59 |
chriadam | many thanks. | 07:59 |
Sail0r | ok do that :) | 07:59 |
Sail0r | trigger a sync manually after running all the stuff? | 08:00 |
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chriadam | yes please | 08:00 |
chriadam | the `devel-su journalctl -af | grep caldav` terminal should have a heap of debug logs in it | 08:00 |
chriadam | oh | 08:00 |
chriadam | you may need to edit /etc/systemd/journald.conf first | 08:01 |
chriadam | and set RateLimitBurst=3000 and RateLimitInterval=10s | 08:01 |
chriadam | so avoid logs getting truncated :-/ | 08:01 |
kimmoli | phdeswer: i assume i need to have developer mode installed for that to work? ... meh | 08:04 |
phdeswer | kimmoli: yes... I can tell you how to get the usb network, but I have no idea of the ssh bits | 08:05 |
kimmoli | ok | 08:07 |
chriadam | Sail0r: any luck? | 08:08 |
Sail0r | yep just cleaning up the screen log to make i readable ;) | 08:08 |
chriadam | sweet | 08:08 |
chriadam | thanks | 08:09 |
Sail0r | no problem thanks for your help :) | 08:09 |
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chriadam | eh, 99% sure it was a change I made which caused the issue, so I should be thanking you for your patience until I fix it. | 08:09 |
phdeswer | kimmoli: well if you could get ssh installed in rescue mode, it should be possible to get it to work | 08:10 |
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kimmoli | phdeswer: kinda difficult to install anything... | 08:14 |
kimmoli | manages to point libs to pkcon, but Failed to contact PackageKit: Could not connect: No such file or directory | 08:15 |
Mikaela | Has anyone else experienced Äijänpäivänjärvi closing all apps suddenly without reason? | 08:15 |
phdeswer | And i guess rpm is not available? | 08:15 |
kimmoli | phdeswer: seems so | 08:15 |
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Sail0r | chriadam: sent it | 08:16 |
chriadam | tyvm | 08:16 |
kimmoli | phdeswer: aa it is in /bin , not in /usr/bin | 08:17 |
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phdeswer | kimmoli: ah that is good news. If that works maybe you can install ssh from the cache | 08:17 |
kimmoli | need to chroot | 08:18 |
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Mikaela | yes people have https://together.jolla.com/question/89804/release-notes-114-aijanpaivanjarvi-early-access/?answer=89920#post-id-89920 (4) | 08:19 |
chriadam | Sail0r: ok, all that seemed fine (assuming that was the "first time" sync after cleaning the dbs etc). Can you now trigger sync again (and send me the `journalctl -af | grep caldav` logs from this second sync) please? | 08:19 |
Sail0r | sure | 08:20 |
chriadam | ty | 08:20 |
Sail0r | omg it looks like you already fixed the issue by clearing the sync dbs it's not happening again | 08:23 |
* chriadam cries | 08:23 | |
Sail0r | damn | 08:23 |
Sail0r | I try it a few times maybe it happens again | 08:24 |
chriadam | thanks | 08:24 |
chriadam | otherwise, I guess I broke something with https://github.com/nemomobile/libsocialcache/pull/56/files which wasn't backward compatible :-/ | 08:25 |
Sail0r | :-/ | 08:26 |
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Sail0r | I am sorry it's working now :-/ tried 12 syncs everything goes through fine | 08:30 |
chriadam | all good, thanks. Can you do one more thing for me please: | 08:30 |
Sail0r | sure | 08:31 |
chriadam | devel-su -p pkcon get-details libsocialcache | 08:31 |
chriadam | devel-su -p pkcon get-details buteo-sync-plugin-caldav | 08:31 |
chriadam | I'm interested in the version numbers | 08:31 |
Sail0r | http://fpaste.org/214194/14296915/ | 08:32 |
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chriadam | wait... | 08:33 |
chriadam | what... | 08:33 |
Sail0r | hm? | 08:33 |
chriadam | that's https://github.com/nemomobile/libsocialcache/commit/a656059a5b6980892b3fec337666d2463da23183 and https://github.com/nemomobile/buteo-sync-plugin-caldav/commit/0778365484493ca523efcf86ccd6d2510fc12057 respectively... | 08:34 |
chriadam | which is _way before_ any of my changes to recurrenceId handling made it into the repo. | 08:34 |
Sail0r | interesting | 08:34 |
chriadam | this suggests that this bug has been there since... january... in devel... | 08:35 |
Sail0r | :x | 08:35 |
chriadam | hrm. I will look into why this might be happening. thanks for all your help :-/ | 08:36 |
Sail0r | that explains why this guy reports that it also happend for him with an older version "Today I had the same problem under 1.1.2.16." | 08:36 |
chriadam | much appreciated | 08:36 |
Sail0r | https://together.jolla.com/question/90275/bug-calendar-duplicates-on-every-sync/ | 08:36 |
Sail0r | no problem :) If you need anything else feel free to contact me | 08:36 |
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chriadam | cheers | 08:36 |
Sail0r | if you need an owncloud account to test or smth | 08:36 |
chriadam | if it happens to you again, please send me an email or ping me here | 08:37 |
Sail0r | ok thanks :) | 08:38 |
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kimmoli | phdeswer: ssh (and scp) works outwards from recovery after chroot, so i can use another jolla to download rpm, and copy them to broken one. lets see... | 09:04 |
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phdeswer | kimmoli: ok. Hope it works | 09:05 |
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kimmoli | hoo | 09:23 |
kimmoli | now, how to set password ... | 09:23 |
Stskeeps | chroot /foo passwd nemo ? | 09:23 |
kimmoli | ofc | 09:24 |
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kimmoli | almost there, now just deve-su to work... gives "bash: /root/.bashrc: Permission denied" | 09:29 |
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Nickleu_ | i gotta say I'm so sick of the btrfs bug | 10:23 |
Nickleu_ | i just balanced it 2 weeks ago and now i have to balance it again | 10:24 |
Yaniel | 1.1.4 will autobalance once a week if the charger is plugged in | 10:26 |
Yaniel | on tuesday night | 10:27 |
ggabriel | oh really | 10:27 |
Nicd- | yes | 10:27 |
ggabriel | will it cancel the balance if the charger is unplugged? | 10:27 |
Nickleu_ | but it's still in some sort of beta right? | 10:27 |
Yaniel | it was in early access | 10:27 |
Yaniel | but rolled back because of some problems | 10:28 |
Yaniel | should be re-released within a week I think | 10:28 |
kjetilho | interesting. I usually charge my phone during the day, at work :) | 10:28 |
temmi_hoo | so you'll not autobalance ever | 10:28 |
temmi_hoo | how about heuristically detecting that okay 1) phone is on charger 2) statistically this charge cycle lasts enough time to balance 3) ... 4) profit | 10:29 |
Nickleu_ | btw I'm not sure if it's related to the balanced thing but I've got a few thousand files that can't be deleted | 10:30 |
Nickleu_ | and ls command just freeze | 10:30 |
ggabriel | Nickleu_: what do you mean that you can't delete thousands of fileds? | 10:30 |
ggabriel | files even | 10:30 |
Nickleu_ | it's some cache file generated by an android app | 10:31 |
ggabriel | are you sure the android application won't need them? | 10:31 |
Nickleu_ | it's eating up my disk space so i want to delete it | 10:31 |
Nickleu_ | i already remove that app | 10:32 |
Nickleu_ | it's poorly written anyway | 10:32 |
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Nickleu_ | i might just do a reset | 10:33 |
ggabriel | Nickleu_: you probably need root to delete those files, but i'm not 100% sure | 10:34 |
Nickleu_ | i tried. but it still get stuck | 10:35 |
ggabriel | that certainly doesn't sound like a balancing problem, but I may be wrong | 10:35 |
Nickleu_ | i even try command like this rsync --delete-before -a -H -v --progress --stats test/ dest/ | 10:35 |
Nickleu_ | still doesn't work so i guess i need a reset | 10:36 |
ggabriel | i wonder what journalctl says | 10:40 |
ggabriel | or dmesg | 10:40 |
ggabriel | hopefully you don't have faulty memory | 10:40 |
Nickleu_ | ggabriel: what should I expect from the output of those command? | 10:42 |
Nickleu_ | from what I've seen nothing is unusual | 10:44 |
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Nickleu_ | ok i give up I'll do the reset tonight | 10:55 |
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ggabriel | Nickleu_: errors | 11:00 |
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kimmoli | thanks to who-ever added that double-press on power-key goes to homescreen, i can shutdown... | 12:51 |
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kimmoli | grrr... do i really need different jolla account for every device, and different email for every account ... | 13:00 |
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ggabriel | uhm... that'll be interesting with the tablet | 13:07 |
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chem|st | kimmoli: ? why would you need different accounts on multiple phones? | 13:08 |
kimmoli | i have told so, it messes up store iirc or something | 13:09 |
chem|st | and different emails is normal for accounts, to prevent duplicates, also when sending passwordrecovery what account would you send it for? | 13:09 |
kimmoli | i have been told... | 13:09 |
chem|st | they should fix that pretty fast then! | 13:10 |
ggabriel | yup, agree that we should be able to use the same account in multiple devices | 13:11 |
temmi_hoo | i thought the competitive systems manage multiple devices per account just fine and dandy | 13:11 |
ggabriel | btw, anybody uses tidings here? | 13:11 |
chem|st | tidings? | 13:11 |
ggabriel | yeah, the rss reader | 13:11 |
ggabriel | pycage I think amde it | 13:12 |
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jaacoppi | i do, but don't really like it | 13:44 |
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kimmoli | phdeswer: thanks for pointing correct direction, works now. now i have IoT device with sailfish :) | 13:58 |
phdeswer | kimmoli: you're welcome. Glad I could help | 13:58 |
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Sail0r | http://thehackernews.com/2015/04/security-researchers-have-uncovered.html | 15:34 |
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flux | I suppose nobody has yet written a call-activated Eniro-based phone book lookup program for Jolla?-o | 16:49 |
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pp | heh | 16:51 |
* pp once found something that broke everything in 100m range, wonder if it's still valid :-) | 16:51 | |
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Wnt | flux: that would be awesome. I loved the Adroid app Callerinfo on my old Desire Z | 17:04 |
HarhaanJohtaja | https://openrepos.net/content/omnight/phonehook | 17:09 |
HarhaanJohtaja | dont know what it supports | 17:10 |
HarhaanJohtaja | well it does not work in 1.1.4 | 17:11 |
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Wnt | is that thing querying everything through the developer's own server? https://github.com/omnight/phonehook/blob/815fcba4302d6d466d34416a4946cda68f2ba5bd/client/gui/qml/pages/PageServerBotList.qml#L29 https://github.com/omnight/phonehook/blob/815fcba4302d6d466d34416a4946cda68f2ba5bd/client/gui/src/bots.cpp#L106 | 17:14 |
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Hartzi | so he could steal fonecta accounts if he wanted to do so? | 17:17 |
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jaacoppi | interesting. Phonehook isn't chaotic neutral, it's chaotic evil | 17:26 |
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pp | www | 17:52 |
pp | eww, too | 17:52 |
kimmoli | phonehook was that what broke update... or rpm scripts of the latest version, which got shoot down from OR | 17:55 |
flux | when might we gonna get more pluggable views on Jolla, so this kind of patching would become history?-o | 17:56 |
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kimmoli | that could have used same thing what coderus's tapshotscreen e.g., no need to inject qml over dbus | 17:59 |
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kimmoli | new toh? http://www.gizmag.com/acoustruments-physical-smartphone-controls/37103/ | 18:06 |
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r0kk3rz | i dont understand what it is kimmoli | 19:39 |
kimmoli | what? | 19:40 |
r0kk3rz | seems to be a method of having a toh without an i2c input | 19:40 |
kimmoli | no | 19:40 |
r0kk3rz | and using the mic and speaker instead | 19:40 |
r0kk3rz | but i might have it very wrong | 19:40 |
kimmoli | user input method | 19:40 |
kimmoli | literally a whistle | 19:40 |
r0kk3rz | ah | 19:41 |
kimmoli | check the video | 19:41 |
r0kk3rz | again, why not have a button on i2c? | 19:41 |
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kimmoli | outside the mic/speaker this is non-electronic | 19:42 |
kimmoli | one can do the same thing with e.g. magnets and sensors | 19:42 |
r0kk3rz | technically its already done with magnets | 19:43 |
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r0kk3rz | i guess with a toh we dont need to hijack the existing mic and speaker | 19:45 |
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r0kk3rz | we can have our own | 19:45 |
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