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Mikaelathere is BitlBee and the newer versions have the fb protocol07:27
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chem|stMikaela: too late, left fb07:49
Mikaelaprobably not so bad thing07:49
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chem|stMikaela: well I need to keep the account for maemo though but else, what use is it?07:57
Mikaelaeverything where you login with Facebook instead of registering manually07:57
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chem|stMikaela: never gonna happen08:01
MikaelaI am probably logged in with it at too many places08:01
chem|stso you did exactly what they wanted you to do, make your online life depend on their account...08:02
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Mikaela:'(08:12
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* jonwil refuses to use Facebook :P08:13
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chem|stMikaela: do you feel ass-raped?08:38
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MikaelaI wouldn't throw jokes about sexual assault like that08:38
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chem|st-.-08:41
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TMavicaAnybody hv experience 'when startup android apps, it shows the cover, then Jolla sudden lag and no response, then reboot itself09:12
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chem|stdoes it reboot (what is "bootreason") or powercycle?09:23
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TMavicaHavent chk. How to chk it?09:40
TMavicaIt is not happen frequently, but everytime it auto reboot is because of this09:41
Mikaelawill there be update to remove those broken fb things?09:45
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tadzikhuh, my jolla just dropped bluetooth and wifi tethering out of the blue10:52
tadziklike it went into deep sleep and decided they're no longer necessary10:53
scottcMikaela: discussing something similar in #maemo, maybe it's due to https://developers.facebook.com/docs/apps/api-v1-deprecation10:53
Stskeepsboth at same time?10:53
tadzikStskeeps: yes10:54
Stskeepsawkward10:54
Stskeepssure it wasn't a reboot?10:55
tadzikthe apps are still up, and a reboot usually takes *ages* :)10:56
tadzik$ dmesg -H10:56
tadziksh: less: command not found10:56
tadzikjolla pls10:56
scottclolla10:57
StskeepsPAGER=?10:57
tadzikyep, more works10:58
scottcer, speaking of strange Sailfish bugs, is there a term for that thing that happens where the screen randomly turns off, the blue light flickers 3-4 times and I get back to a lock screen? is that a soft reboot or something?10:59
scottcfor a while that happened whenever I tried to launch a bookmark from my launcher10:59
tadziklast logs say they're from April 29 though10:59
tadzikI think -H is lying to me10:59
tadzikscottc: I have this with green light, and I suspect the lockscreen mediaplayer patch11:00
tadzikI wish it was a separate thing from the MPRIS patch, as I only need the latter11:00
scottcI don't actually have either, oddly enough11:00
scottcbut now I see that it supports qtspot, I might volunteer myself for another bug :D11:01
tadzikhuh, now it dropped wifi, weird11:01
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tadzikyep, both went down again11:05
tadzikI never used both bluetooth and tethering before, seems like it can't handle both for some reason11:05
Stskeepsit probably has coexistence issues11:06
tadzikjealousy11:06
scottchaha11:08
tadzikfunny thing is, usb network also went down11:10
tadzikvery weird11:10
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Mikaelascottc: I think it's that too, but will there be upgrade to remove them? I have not-updating FB feed in notifications11:46
scottcMikaela: no idea, sorry! I'm a layman11:51
scottcI don't have chat working but I'm not sure if it's because of FB APIs or something else...11:52
Mikaelachat was based on XMPP which was closed and I believe everything else used the same11:52
scottcyeah, but XMPP chat still works on my other devices11:58
scottcand I did an upgrade to .29 (god help me if i try to spell the finnish lake names) last week so i was unsure if it was the upgrade or xmpp closing11:58
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Mikaelahmm, weird, XMPP also works on my BitlBee12:02
MikaelaÄijänpäivänjärvi, it's not that difficult :D12:02
* Mikaela happens to be native Finnish speaker though :)12:02
YanielI'd imagine _spelling_ them is not that bad12:04
Yanielpronouncing on the other hand may be a bit... funny12:04
scottcMikaela: oh yeah, of course :roll: :D12:04
scottci'd just learned how to spell yliavanlaampi, and i don't even know if that's correct12:04
Yanielyou missed an a12:04
YanielYliaavanlampi12:05
Yanielyli-aavan-lampi12:05
scottcah, i always forget if the repeated a is after yl or l12:05
Yanieland äijän-päivän-järvi12:05
scottci give up12:05
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scottcjust going to install android on my jolla so i can pronounce the release names12:06
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Mikaela:(12:07
Yanielpeople have the strangest problems :D12:07
Stskeepsstill slightly puzzled why nobody attempted a CM port to the jolla yet12:08
Stskeeps:P12:08
chem|stStskeeps: there is really no point in doing so12:09
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chem|stI am wondering why there are no attempts to get 3.1812:10
Stskeepswell, because it's a royal nightmare12:11
Yanielscrew 3.18, 4.0 is here12:11
chem|stYaniel: or that...12:11
Yaniel(I imagine that being an even greater nightmare)12:11
chem|st3.18 is the latest LT though12:11
chem|stYaniel: why, it is just the same nightmare to reverse engineer hardware drivers for one or another12:12
scottcI'm actually surprised that there isn't a CM port yet12:12
scottcI'd probably never get it working, much like my failed dual-boot of SfOS and CM on my Nexus 4... :P12:13
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cptGhello! is it possible, if making an app, to give a system-wide possibility to "share with" stuff with that app? Like on android where I can share content with my notes app and alike? Is there an API? Kinda like registering ann application to handle a file extension on the desktop?14:25
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cptG...hm... seems transfer-engine is what I'm looking for. has anybody used it or knows of a project that uses it?14:33
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coderuscptG: yes16:52
coderuscheck this: https://github.com/CODeRUS/harbour-mitakuuluu2/tree/master/shareui16:53
coderus(can be outdated a bit)16:53
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coderuswhy dumb users are looking into filesystem and writing such questions?? https://together.jolla.com/question/91689/my-home-folder-is-duplicated-into-optalien/17:12
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kimmoliwaiting for rm -rf /opt/alien  ?17:17
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coderuskimmoli: you can't do it, many system folders are mounted17:20
kimmolii know..17:21
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coderusyou can uninstall aliendalvik and reboot and check which folders are exists in /opt/alien17:23
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TMavicaany software can scan Jolla for virus? Mine is infected18:56
coderusTMavica: LOL19:00
* coderus falled under desk and crying here19:00
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Sail0rlol19:01
fennekkiTMavica: um19:01
TMavicaI got a file call "fuck" in my root..19:01
Teguhave you played with devel-su?19:01
TMavicaafter i download it, my computer scan it is a linux virus file19:01
TMavicaTegu: yes19:01
Sail0rdo you have a proper password set?19:02
TMavicano19:02
TMavicajust 3 number19:02
Tegulinux virus file for which platform?19:02
Sail0rdid you download eicar test virus? ^^19:02
TMavicahavent look..19:02
coderusfor sailfish :D19:02
TMavicalinux virus as my computer said19:02
TMavicadamn it19:02
Sail0rsetting a three digit root pw19:02
Sail0ris a very good idea ....  NOT19:02
Sail0rwhat does "file fuck" say?19:03
Tegushare it19:03
Sail0rwhat does md5sum fuck say19:03
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TMavicadeleted it at once19:04
Tegu:<19:04
Sail0r-.-19:04
Sail0rso you have no copy?19:04
Tegugg19:04
TMavicaI saw it 2 times, after I deleted it, it come out again19:04
Sail0rwhy did you not make a copy?19:04
fennekkithat sounds like some script is running 'touch fuck' as root19:04
TMavicathen me try reboot my Jolla to see if it come out again19:04
TMavicamy second times saw it19:05
coderusTMavica: installing random chinese software from openrepos?19:05
Teguyou said it's on your computer?19:05
coderusI never trusted these guys :D19:05
TMavicacoderus: no19:05
Accehas the file any contents?19:05
Teguor how else did you scan it. or did you just remove it afterwards19:05
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TMavicai download it from my Jolla, then my computer scanned it19:06
StskeepsTMavica: sounds like you should contact security@jolla.com19:06
TeguI just tend to disable that SSH login (and thus the password as well?) when I'm not using it.19:06
TMavica.......................19:07
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TMavicaStskeeps: dont you kidding me? LOL19:07
Sail0rmaybe yyou should set a proper pw ...19:07
ninnnu_I just want a copy of that file.19:07
Sail0rdo you have a copy of the file on your pc19:07
TMavicaif the filename is not "fuck", i wont notice it19:07
Sail0rwhen you say you downloaded it19:07
Sail0rmaybe in the isolation folder of your av19:07
StskeepsTMavica: i'm not kidding you.19:08
Stskeepsbut anyway: a 3 letters ssh login isn't going to be good for anybody19:08
Stskeepsanybody can log in if so19:08
TMavicabefore i got 8 digit, then i lazy, change to 319:09
Tegualso why is the SSH server still running after disabling it in the settings?19:09
TMavicai think nobody will hack me19:09
Sail0ronly digits is no good pw anyway19:09
Sail0rand the jolla is a device placed on the internet19:09
Sail0rif a mobile provider assigns direct ips19:09
ninnnu_I don't think the SSH-server listens mobile-interfaec19:10
coderusTMavica: install my ssh access notifier :D19:10
coderusor nieldk google two-factor authentication module :)19:10
TMavicaI waiting the "fuck" virus come out19:10
Tegudid you reboot?19:11
TMavicaya19:11
TMavicanot appear19:11
Teguokay tried again, apparently the SSH it's not running now (I tried saving a password instead of generating a new one)19:12
TMavicaTo be honest, I ever used my Jolla to watch some porn site19:13
Accedid you download something from there19:14
Acceand run it?19:14
Teguwith root? eh19:14
TMavicayou mean download the movie from there?19:14
coderusTMavica: you only can be hacked in public wifi places.19:14
coderusTMavica: and only suspicious packages can infect device19:15
Sail0ryou should never pipe p0rn through bash :P19:15
coderusthere is no known exploits or so19:15
Accewell if you just watched a movie, it could be something with the video player backend.. although what coderus says is more likely19:15
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Tegusome video player backed exploit would be kewl19:16
TMavicabut if the virus keep come out. how to solve?19:16
Tegubut yea, a bit unlikely?19:16
coderusTMavica: so, just install ssh notifier or two factor authentication if using free wifi a lot, or disable ssh access when you doesn't need it19:16
TMavicacoderus: ok19:16
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coderusTMavica: then you should post ps aux and systemd/systemd --user output to us to check active processes and autostart19:17
Teguboth because you still forget to disable it at times, probably19:17
coderusbut yes, unlikely its a virus19:17
Tegubut a trojan, maybe?19:17
Acceor a prank19:17
TMavicaTegu: it said is virus not trojan19:18
TMavicathere is a name, i forget..19:18
coderusTegu: thats why i'm asking about processes19:18
Tegucoderus: ah, yea19:18
coderusbut unlikely too, as attacker wouldn't have a binary for sailfish, or it just a script19:18
coderusTMavica: your antivirus name?19:19
coderusand how you did checked your jolla with it o_O19:19
TMavicai cant use antivirus software to check Jolla19:19
TMavicabut i can download that virus to my computer19:20
ninnnu_coderus: He downloaded the file from Jolla and the AV scanned it on the fly, like AVs tend to do19:20
TMavicacoderus: ssh access confirmation?19:20
coderusokay, so you was just hacked and hacker copied file to your jolla19:20
coderusyou not infected19:20
coderusit just a file19:20
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coderusand it can't do anything with your super linux phone :)19:21
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coderushttps://openrepos.net/content/coderus/ssh-access-confirmation19:21
TMavicamaybe i use password 123, they easy go in19:22
Acceyes19:22
Accethat's first password anyone tries19:22
TMavicathey are good, name the virus call "fuck"19:22
Teguwell it could be better hidden if it was some more serious stuff, I guess19:23
TMavicacoderus: how disable ssh access in that?19:23
coderusTMavica: this is for confirmation, for disabling ssh you open devmode settings and disable ssh here19:24
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TMavicaok19:24
coderusjust if you have ssh enabled use my application to confirm any access via ssh19:25
coderusthis dialog prompt will appear for each connection and you can allow or deny it19:25
TMavicathanks19:25
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TMavica1 more question. How to check the log if I got a autoreboot19:27
coderuswhat log?19:28
TMavicathe reboot reason19:28
kimmolicat /var/log/systemboot.log19:29
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TMavicathans19:30
TeguI read season :D "oh no, the reboot season has begun! *cleans battery and applies more paper*"19:30
kimmoliTegu: seems so19:30
TMavicaTegu: mine is not this problem19:30
* Stskeeps rips out hair19:30
AcceStskeeps: take beer and keep calm19:32
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kimmolii also had one reboot due battery, but i applied some more lubricant19:33
coderusboth channels are on fire now :D19:34
kimmoli:)19:34
kimmolii have a binary-blob (with sources) if someone wants to test? https://github.com/kimmoli/billybass/releases/tag/0.0.119:34
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kimmolican be built on sdk, doesn't build on obs19:35
coderuskimmoli: you compiled espeak and did gui for it?19:39
kimmolijust testing19:39
coderuskimmoli: i'd like to see espeak package for jolla :)19:40
coderusor festival19:40
kimmoliespeak works after adding pulse policy19:41
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TMavicatoo night, time to sleep19:49
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