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kimmolipushed billy bass to OR to get some feedback; https://openrepos.net/content/kimmoli/billy-bass09:30
kimmoliif there is other way to register this to pulseaudio, it would possibly be in harbour... http://pastebin.com/5t4gULEc09:31
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jaacoppiinstalled09:48
jaacoppicopyright notice could have your name, and I'd hope you'd stick with english09:50
jaacoppiother than that, keep up the good work. I'd like to see TTS improve09:52
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dirkvl__kimmoli: where is the fish09:56
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kimmolijaacoppi: just testing, some strings in finnish ...09:59
kimmolidirkvl: fishs are still in lake10:00
temmi_foothe cat is in the moon...10:00
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kimmoliwould like to have auto language detect based on string to speak. "where is the fish" was not really understanble in finnish10:02
jaacoppihow about setting the language in-app?10:09
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kimmoliin the nonexisting todo list...10:15
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Fusljust had a bug (5 seconds ago) where i couldn't hang up the phone anymore10:42
Fuslonly when the other party finally hung up the phone10:42
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Yanielcan I get mkfs.vfat on the device from somewhere?11:02
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Nicd-mer-tools?11:08
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coderusOne man reminded me of an old odea about creating twitch and youtibe channels for sailfish development and other sailfish stuff which can be useful as video guides. So, tell me if you want to subscribe to this channel or not and tell me why please.11:40
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scottcsounds like a good idea to me11:43
scottcI would watch them11:43
scottcthere aren't a huge amount of SfOS dev resources, so it couldn't hurt11:43
coderusnot about hurt, just about is it wort it spending time for recording stuff11:44
scottcright11:44
coderus worth*11:45
TemeVI don't like video guides in general. Written guides are better, because checking some single instruction from a video is slow11:47
kimmoliadd bookmarks to the video for "actually starts here"...11:48
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zuttoTemeV: i agree11:49
zuttoplus in general, videos are slow11:49
zuttoand sidetrack easily11:49
zuttowritten guides can be polished with no effort11:49
coderusaim is having fun in twitch live streaming about sailfish :)11:49
zuttohow about this coderus? https://www.livecoding.tv11:50
coderusfirst is some part prepared for stream, and then subscribers asking to tell about some stuff11:50
coderuszutto: yes like this, but with paid subscribers :D11:51
zuttooh i see11:51
zuttopaid subscribers and ads rolling every 5 minutes ;P11:51
zuttogood luck, i'm off11:51
coderuswell, only if ads about sailfish and jolla :D11:51
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entilcoderus: I would watch that channel, at least if the specific topic was interesting to me, because I need to brush up on my skillz12:06
entillike most people most often ;P12:06
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coderus`.12:10
Accewould be fun to watch, but I wouldn't pay for it I guess12:10
Acceads, well, fine12:11
Acceasking specific questions? maybe paid subscription would be ok12:11
entilI have no idea how patreon.com works but most of the stuff I watch on youtube has adopted it12:12
entilseems worth looking into for handling paid content12:12
coderusAcce: yes, just live streams saved to some youtube channel after, you do not need to pay for some stuff. Just subscribers can request more stuff during stream. But cool and general questions to be solved in live streaming are open for everybody :)12:14
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entilseems the patreon bonuses are along these lines https://www.patreon.com/redlettermedia (and I should totally start pledging, RLM is the best channel on youtube)12:18
entilbut I'm not sure I'd pay to see blooper reels with coderus' typos on them, just some nominal sum to maybe get access to something interesting12:18
entiland something like $2 a month12:18
coderusentil: for the live streams i seen myself subscribers have privileges to ask something during stream, so all other users questions are added to list and can be used for future streams. that is my idea for subscribers.12:21
Accecoderus: cool!12:22
entilok, that's ok12:22
coderuswell, main idea is getting money somehow for some stuff, but i have no ieda what it can be :)12:22
coderusmeans subscribers will have some privileges, but i'm not sure which ones :D12:23
entilI'd be ok with that patreon model, if you're a patreon supporter you get to ask live questions, but pricing is hard because there's no way I can put a lot of money into those kinds of things12:23
* entil the kind of guy who'd rather pay for a specific thing than tossing $10 here and 10e there and everywhere every month12:23
coderusas it's not gaming channel "play with subscribers"12:23
coderusentil: well yes, i guess subscribing amount for twitch is fixed12:24
entilI know what twitch is but that's all, no idea how it works or how money works with it :P12:24
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TMavicaStskeeps: https://i.imgur.com/t0awjL9.png12:37
TofeMy guess: http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/random_number.png  (with 35)12:42
temmi_foois twitch something to pay for?12:44
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coderushttp://www.twitch.tv/andreykozhevnikov :D13:01
coderusnow i need a way to share my jolla screen :D13:01
temmi_fooloading the page took too long, closed the tab13:05
temmi_foothe same happens with dropbox image shares, the html5 just does something so horribly wrong it takes forever for the content to render13:06
coderuslol :D13:06
temmi_fooi'm browsing with a 4 year old mbp that is ever so slightly swapping so slow pages are slow13:07
temmi_foocannot be bothered if the content takes over a minute to appear13:07
coderustwitch caching too long13:08
coderusbut i stopped broadcast for now :)13:08
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temmi_fooi'm still not sure what twitch is and is there something i'd pay for in there13:11
Acceyou can use it for free mostly13:11
coderustemmi_foo: you just watching live streams in twitch13:14
coderusbut it allow users to pay for subscriptions for channels13:14
temmi_foolive streams of what?13:17
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temmi_foothere are things i imagine i could pay for as per content or per channel if the price is low enough and also if the pay only has very limited content13:31
temmi_fooi mean, normal tv channels have way more totally unnecessary bull i don't want to see and support producing13:31
temmi_fooalso, traditionally they're packaged so that you cannot even pay for just one channel that still has mostly crud but you have to pay for a package to get the one channel you really want to13:32
temmi_fooso 50eur a moon for 99% crap, no thx13:32
temmi_fooi'd rather pay a rather less sum for a very much more targeted content, preferably straight to producer of said content13:33
coderustemmi_foo: anything. wathcing is free. if you like subscriber you donating to it once or monthly. thats it.13:37
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temmi_foodonating suits me also fine13:40
temmi_foobeen there done that13:40
temmi_foowould do more often if the mechanisms of donating regularly irregularly small sums were easier in their ux13:40
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locusftwitch partners have subscription for 5$ a month13:45
locusffollowing will let you know of the strams happening13:46
locusfthe channel broadcasters usually have their custim benefits for subscribers13:46
temmi_foo5 dollars a month for a channel or for all of twitch?13:51
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Ezkofor a channel but there's no benefit if you don't spam the channel chat13:54
Ezkoyou can get twitch turbo to get rid of all commercials for 5 dollars a month13:55
Ezkosubscribing does that for that particular channel13:55
temmi_foo$5 a month is a bit much considering most good content producers make good and interesting content not even every month13:59
Ezkoyou don't create content for twitch, you stream on twitch14:01
Ezkoonly thing you get for money in there is no ads14:02
Ezkoand hd for some tournament channels but there aren't many of thos2 either14:02
Ezkoi've paid no money tl twitch and i watch it regularly14:03
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temmi_foowho then creates content? somebody does14:10
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Ezkotemmi_foo: i've streamed on twitch14:12
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coderuslets make some test stream then. Channel address is: www.twitch.tv/andreykozhevnikov. Write your questions and ideas for live coding stream for SailfishOS :)14:47
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coderustemmi_foo: i need to get 500 minimum views to be able to get funds using twitch :)15:01
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toerbcoderus: You need Adobe Flash Player to watch this video.15:08
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coderustoerb: i have no idea how it works, sorry. i'm sing chrome always :)15:08
coderususing*15:08
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toerbcoderus: installed flashplugin for you.15:10
coderus:D15:11
coderuslinux?15:11
toerbis it supposed to be offline?15:11
coderusyes15:11
toerbcoderus: sure15:11
coderusi used wine flash plugin with firefox before :D15:12
coderusi'm collecting ideas for first test stream15:12
coderusso post your suggestions15:12
coderusand it will start when i get enough ideas what to stream :)15:12
toerbhow about starting simple? qml and how it is structured.. how qml can be splitted in multiple files and how communication works then15:13
coderustoerb: okay, added15:14
coderushttp://piratepad.net/OSIjkZUa8d15:15
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locusfI got this 3d-printed pedestal for Jolla and a camera phone15:17
locusfcan be used in presentations15:18
coderustoerb: you can also watch streams using vlc, but you can't see conversation here15:19
coderusbut there is also separate chat clients, so you can get rid if flash probably :)15:20
coderusalso TMavica found https://openrepos.net/content/aldrog/twitchtube15:22
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TMavicabut the developer havent maintain it for a long time15:33
TMavicathe playback got problem15:33
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coderussad15:34
TMavicao. just saw this: https://github.com/Aldrog/TwitchTube/issues/215:35
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temmi_fooso, twitch is like videostream with associated chat?16:00
TMavicayes.16:02
TMavicaThere is many girls with big boobs like to play this16:02
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coderustemmi_foo: right16:03
temmi_foookay16:05
TMavicamostly is games16:05
temmi_footook a while since nobody told me and i practically cannot check it out16:05
temmi_fooat least, not via their website16:05
temmi_fooit loads so slow i just die waiting16:05
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temmi_foothey must be using some horribly wonderful thing like "compressed js" or someother utter bullcrap16:06
toerbtemmi_foo: uBlock (firefox addon) gives me 44 blocked elements on the site :S16:08
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temmi_foo:)16:13
temmi_foowonderfully constructed16:13
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coderushttp://piratepad.net/OSIjkZUa8d agenda is full. i can start streaming asap, decide time when most of you can watch it :)16:32
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entilhttp://www.reddit.com/r/netsec/comments/34e6si/whatsapps_endtoend_encryption_analysed_its_pretty/cqtxbh7 :o18:27
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coderusentil: yeah, stupid peoples on fire21:09
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temmi_foowhat i dislike of the reddit-links the most is that by default the actual content is closed and only ranting is shown21:56
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