#jollamobile log for Friday, 2015-05-22

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birdzhangmorning02:06
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tadzikHuh, weird that Email app doesn't have cover actions if you have multiple accounts02:26
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birdzhangHello,anybody know how to use "nemo" user to run a commond as "sudo"03:20
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birdzhanghttps://together.jolla.com/question/44012/how-to-use-sudo/03:23
birdzhangit's  complexity :(03:23
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chriadambirdzhang: instead of sudo, use `devel-su`03:40
birdzhangi want to run command through python03:46
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tadzikOh, Email does have cover actions... Sometimes04:05
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svuorelaa/win 3305:27
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jarkko_hmm... how do I view/edit the outgoing mail server in an existing 'General email' account? Settings - Accounts - Server settings (from the top) only has the incoming one.10:36
PeperJohnnyScroll down10:36
ggabrieljarkko_: I scroll down and I get the outgoing server10:37
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ggabrielrecreate the account if you don't see the outgoing server i'd say...10:37
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jarkko_I only have the Email address, Incoming mail server (group) and Certificates. But yeah, I guess recreating is the way to go.10:41
ggabrielyou could create a new account which is exactly the same and compare the xml's10:41
ggabrielif you're very bored :)10:41
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_miqu_Hello, I have a problem with playback from media player.12:20
_miqu_It doesnt start to play the button is active but doesn't do anything. Videos play fine and other sounds. Its just not playing music from Jolla media player and I tried with Daedalus media player also. This started after I installed an android app Sworkit that is built on top of Ionic framework and uses sound and video. I have tried to reboot, remove the apps or remove alien dalvik all together. Any ideas how to diagnose what is wrong?12:20
_miqu_Found this tjc thread that is related, but it seems to be quite small. https://together.jolla.com/question/49518/sound-from-media-app-stops-working/12:20
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Yaniel_miqu_: add a comment saying you have the problem as well and upvote the issue12:28
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MikaelaI added journalctl <http://sprunge.us/OfNH> to <https://together.jolla.com/question/93721/no-network-with-aliendalvik-sshd-doesnt-start-on-boot/> in case it helps anyone see what is wrong12:54
Mikaelahttp://sprunge.us/OfNH?txt in nicer to read format12:56
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_miqu_Yaniel: Yeah done that. Its only 3 votes so wont be noticed in a while. :) I feel that Alien Dalvik made some changes to Sailfish Pulseaudio settings that fracked the media playback.13:11
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falfaI upgraded to 1.1.4.29 Äjänpäiväjärvi, and the telephoning part of the os is irritatingly unstable. I often experience that the screen gets unresponsive diring calls, I cang hang up :-(14:14
falfaAnyone else with same experience?14:14
ggabrielerm... not at all14:15
falfafor me it was noticeable directly after upgrade14:15
falfaI use Telenor in Ruotsi14:16
ggabrielmaybe somebody else can comment14:16
ggabrielphone is as good as ever on my side14:16
falfaim glad :-)14:16
YanielI'd check btrfs fi status first14:16
Yanielerr, btrfs fi show14:18
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lainwir3dfalfa: I had the same problem yesterday14:27
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MikaelaAs even removing aliendalvik entirely didn't fix network connectivity within it, I am going to perform factory reset and as this is phone, I would want to save my contacts. How do I write my contacts to SIM-card?14:36
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Mikaelahttps://together.jolla.com/question/92253/please-enable-basic-function-editing-mobile-sim-contacts-and-relocating-local-contacts-to-a-mobile-sim/14:38
MikaelaI see. How am I supposed to backup my contacts and what if I get another phone and want to move my contacts to it? I see no kind of export options anywhehre and ~/.vault only included 5 of ~100 contacts14:38
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NickLeuMikaela: Eh, in my case I set up a outlook account to synchronize all my contacts to the server14:43
NickLeuand u can easilly export the contacts from the outlook website14:44
MikaelaI have Google account with bidirectional sync, should that mean that they all are also there?14:44
NickLeuMikaela: i'm not sure about google account but that should work14:45
MikaelaI hope it does14:45
NickLeuu might want to login to ur google account to make sure14:46
MikaelaI am not sure which contacts there are so recent that they aren't anywhere else14:47
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NickLeuMikaela: OH btw do you think the bluetooth sync will work?14:53
Mikaelano idea as I have no device where to sync using bluetooth14:53
Mikaelait's also performing factory reset now and I am wondering how long time it's going to show me the jolla logo14:54
NickLeudont know14:54
NickLeugood luck with that :)14:54
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Mikaela[ERROR] Flashed recovery image is too old and does not support phone clearing.14:58
Mikaelaat least google found instructions15:03
Mikaelait would have been nice if the factory reset in settings would have mentioned that error by the way15:06
falfalainwir3d: yeah. I've so far had to solve it by removing the battery to end the call.15:11
falfa(while calling a voice mailbox for instance)15:12
lainwir3di managed to swipe down to close the app15:19
lainwir3dthus ending the call15:19
lainwir3doh, or from my bluetooth headphone, i can stop the call15:19
lainwir3dhave to go15:19
lainwir3dgood evening15:19
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* Mikaela wonders where did the backup tool put other contacts as she only got 8 from .vault before the factory reset16:15
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WaRi0for using mikatullu i must unistall whatsap?16:54
coderusWaRi0: no16:55
WaRi0and coderus what about auto sync ?16:56
WaRi0only manual?16:56
coderuswhat sync you mean?16:56
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WaRi0for contacts16:56
coderusyes it designed to be only manual16:57
coderusto not send unwanted contacts to whatsapp/facebook servers16:57
WaRi0and if i cannot remember my friends using whatsap?16:58
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coderusi can add this feature after implementing all main features only17:01
WaRi0ty man17:01
WaRi0we need it17:01
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nutellazwerghello hello boys and girls :D may I ask, if someone could offer me  a coupon-code? ;) I am a student from tu-dresden so my budget is small, but I would love to get a jolla *_*17:19
nutellazwergno offence, of course :D17:19
Morpog_PCZur Zeit gibts keine Codes17:20
YanielWomöglich aber im Sommer zur Zeit des Tablet-launches17:21
nutellazwergich hatte nur gelesen, dass wohl an alle Jolla-Phone Besitzer mal eine Art Gutschein raus ging, mit denen Sie Freunde werben konnten, dachte das war zeitlich unbegrenzt vielleicht =)17:21
nutellazwergaber danke für die schnellen antworten! =)17:22
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tadzikIch besichtige die sehenswuerdigkeiten17:24
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coderusтак здорово читать ваш немецкий текст, просто мечтал об этом постоянно!17:26
nutellazwergкак дила? :D17:29
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ln-соон сомеоне вилл демард енгьлиш.17:33
StskeepsO_o17:34
coderusмир дверь мяч17:34
Hartzikurwa !17:35
nutellazwergich kurwa, du kurwa, er sie es kurwa ..17:35
newcupA légpárnás hajóm tele van angolnákkal17:37
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Hartziälämölöä17:40
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jaacoppiselamat malam17:41
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Aciidwelcome our new russian overlords17:43
Aciidkiitos jolla 2011-201517:43
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Hartziwoot17:45
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Stskeepsyou're assuming that we actually listen to what management says :p17:50
Stskeepsbut anyway, to be honest, having a diverse set of investors from all over the world is a good thing17:50
Stskeepsjust because you invest, it doesn't mean that you gain all the power in the world over a company17:51
Stskeepsstill has a board that's responsible for it's actions and employees that can refuse unethical or unprofessional actions17:51
Stskeepsand as professionals -should- do so17:52
kimmolimitä v*ttua nyt?17:53
Stskeeps:P17:54
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skvark:D17:56
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HartziStskeeps: it's good as long as they wont take over the company :P18:27
falfaAciid: what? url, plz?18:32
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Venemohey guys19:29
Venemoso I decided to give a try to installing google play on the jolla... did what this guy said: https://together.jolla.com/question/30926/howto-install-google-play/19:29
Venemobut it just crashes on launch19:30
Venemoso... meh19:31
trulssame here, but worked ater phone reboot19:31
Venemoworth a try19:32
Morpog_PCalso be sure to update store and play sercvices via aptoide19:34
VenemoMorpog_PC: not sure what that means19:35
Venemodo I need aptiode? what is that19:35
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Morpog_PCyou don't need it, but it's more convenient19:38
Morpog_PCit's an android store19:38
Morpog_PCyou can get it from Jolla store :D19:38
Venemoso, install a store from a store to install another store?19:38
Morpog_PCwell, just to update a store :D19:38
Venemohmmm, reboot didn't help. the icon of google play just disappeared19:39
Venemookay, aptoide crashes on launch too19:41
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Venemoworking now19:42
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Venemohah, aptoide can't update it19:46
Venemolol19:46
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faidenHi, So does anyone know how I can get Google "Other Calendars" to show up on my jolla?20:38
faidenatm it only shows "My calendars"20:39
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Venemocool20:50
Venemoseems I managed to brick my jolla20:50
falfainteresting20:55
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Venemofortunately, the recovery menu came in handy :P20:58
falfaphew20:59
Venemowelcome to v 1.0.0.520:59
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Venemoapparently it was a bad idea to rm -rf /opt/alien21:03
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Venemoand, for the record, removing the shit from via the jolla store didn't clean up the mess it made in my file system21:04
faidenwhat shit Venemo ?21:07
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VargstiernaHi guys, I want to buy a jolla mobile off ebay but the only one listed is from India, other than the power adapter it should be fine in North America if my provider is AWS, right?22:06
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WntVargstierna: 3G/4G is not well supported outside ITU 1 region: https://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/203394337-Which-cellular-frequency-bands-does-Jolla-support-22:16
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VargstiernaWnt: hmm, thanks, it should probably be fine, my current provider worked with my Nokia N900 and N9 on AWS 1700/2100 MHz, which I'm assuming is the WCDMA: Band I (2100 MHz) listed on that page22:58
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keithzgVargstierna: Nope23:01
keithzgVargstierna: For AWS, you need WCDMA Band IV. I'm in the same boat; myk provider uses AWS 1700/2100 MHz, I actually switched over to them for the sake of the N900 and later the N9, but sadly that means the Jolla I have (thanks to family living at the time in Europe) doesn't work as a phone for me at all.23:02
keithzgI knew that getting it, so I wasn't disappointed, to be clear!23:03
Vargstiernablah23:04
keithzgVargstierna: So anywas, bottom line, if your provider is only AWS (like mine, Wind Mobile up here in Canada; I suspect you're either the same or Mobilicity?) you're out of luck.23:04
VargstiernaI guess it's plan b then, a nexus 5 running Sailfish23:04
keithzgVargstierna: If you don't need Android compatibility, that's a good way to go.23:04
keithzgI'm half-tempted every day to switch my Nokia N9 out for my Nexus 4 running SailfishOS.23:04
keithzgI *love* the SailfishOS keyboard on that hardware.23:04
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keithzgBut I do need Android apps, so I carry around an Android phone too . . . so since my N9 is just for phone calls, texts, and having great battery life, I can't quite justify going over to a Nexus 4 running SailfishOS.23:05
keithzgAt least with the Nexus 4 though the experience is indeed pretty flawless. I beleive by now the Nexus 5 is at least nearly the same?23:05
Vargstiernayeah it looks pretty sweet, according to this Nexus 5 is even better supported https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris23:09
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keithzgVargstierna: Oh, that's gotten a lot better than last I checked, yeah.23:19
tiwakekeithzg: yeah, I kinda want to swap out my now aging N900 with a sailfishOS phone23:20
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tiwakebut that is going to wait till after I get the tablet I think23:20
keithzgI'm just glad though that the nice curved screen surface of the Nexus 4 finally gets the Harmattan-like UI/UX that I was dreaming of back when I first got my Nexus 4 to be my Android device.23:20
keithzgtiwake: Yeah, my N900 is still sitting around, I almost feel bad about not using it anymore! But I carry with and love my N9 every day, even if it mostly just sits and waits for texts or phone calls (can't do much else since I keep running out of inodes if I try and enable data+Twitter or such, heh)23:21
tiwakelol23:23
tiwakekeithzg: I still use my N900 every day23:24
tiwakebut I don't use it for internet things23:24
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tiwakeI got it because at the time it was kind of a novel idea to not have to pay for ringtones... lol23:26
tiwakealmost got the openmoko, but that project fizzled a bit before I was ready to buy one23:27
keithzgtiwake: Yeah, that died off not long after I started noticing it, too.23:28
tiwakeif I would have known that nokia was going to sell off to microsoft, I might have bought something different23:29
tiwakethen again, I might not have ended up in this channel... heh23:30
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tiwakesuch as it is23:31
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keithzgYeah in some respects it was for the best, I think (Nokia as a whole company wasn't necessarily known for avoiding mucking up projects over political reasons---they were like every giant company that way, really).23:36
keithzgI just wish I could buy a SailfishOS phone and actually use it as my phone!23:36
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