#jollamobile log for Thursday, 2015-06-18

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lordchavezHey, hope some one is on. I tried to find a solution on together.jolla.com but i am not sure what my error is. long story short, my device died half an hour ago, and wouldnt reboot, i charged it to 30% and turned it back on, it got stuck at the jolla logo. recovery via telnet was done but didn't change anything. Someone here who could help?01:04
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chriadamlordchavez: are you able to fully charge it?01:08
chriadamlordchavez: some things (modems, etc) can require a lot of power to turn on, and it may be that the battery charge level isn't being reported correctly for some reason01:08
lordchavezits attached to my powersuply supported usb hub, and i can see the charging "logo"01:09
lordchavezit doesn't show any percentage tho01:09
chriadamif the system thinks it has a certain amount of power, but actually has far less, and then turns on something which draws a lot of power, that could cause the voltage to slump below a failsafe level01:09
lordchavezfor like five minutes now01:09
chriadamI don't remember if it reports the percentage in act-dead (charging) mode01:10
chriadambut 5 minutes is not enough to charge the device any significant amount01:10
lordchaveztrue, i had charged it at my usb charger for half an hour to 30% and attached tryed to reboot it, as it didn't work out i  went through the factory reset routine.01:10
lordchavez-attached01:11
lordchavezbut the LED would usually start flashing red, if the powerlevel is way to low, right?01:12
lordchavez( for a boot )01:12
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chriadamI'm uncertain what the LED patterns correlate to01:13
chriadambut if the system is misreporting the voltage level, that would explain why you're not getting the expected LED pattern anyway01:13
chriadamnote: it may be something entirely unrelated to battery charge01:13
lordchaveztrue tho01:13
chriadambut battery charge is just the simplest thing I can think of01:13
lordchavezwhat else ( instead of battery charge, could you think of?01:14
lordchavezi read, about problems according to the qt5 lib01:15
chriadamit could be a filesystem corruption for example01:19
chriadambut anything like that would be highly unlikely and highly nasty01:20
chriadamsomeone like spiiroin or phdeswer would know far more and be able to help you far more than I can - but they're in .fi tz so probably not online for another 5 hours I guess.01:22
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lordchavezTrue, just one more question, do you know if i could check the battery charge level from the recovery shell?01:23
chriadamhrm01:27
chriadamnot sure tbh01:27
chriadamno doubt it's possible via some dsme command (which I assume gets loaded with the minimal boot environment)01:27
chriadamdoes dsmetool or dsme-tool exist?01:28
chriadambut in any case, if the charge is being incorrectly reported to the system by the hardware, then that will just report the wrong value anyway I guess01:28
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lordchavezsoo after 1 hour of charghing ( which was usually enough to get it up to 75% it gets stuck at the "jolla" logo while booting... :/01:45
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spiiroinlooks like lordchavez is gone, but battery level can be checked with: cat /run/state/namespaces/Battery/ChargePercentage03:03
spiiroin30% should be plenty enough; getting stuck at jolla logo kind of points towards problems before/during lipstick startup03:05
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narchiequality wlan interface05:39
narchie100% quality05:39
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ilpianistaso, how do I get a Jolla t-shirt?07:25
ilpianista(where to buy?)07:25
YanielI don't think there are any for sale atm07:26
ilpianistaYaniel, no t-shirts or any kind of merchandising?07:27
Yanielnot that I know07:28
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ilpianistatweeted @JollaHQ just in case07:28
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Nicd-they should sell new "I am the first one" shirts to the first ones :P the colors on mine are cracked all over07:39
tabaskohowdy! I installed google play on latest SailfishOS with howto found from together.jolla.com07:40
tabaskogoogle play starts but it cant connect07:40
tabaskoother android apps can connect to internet07:41
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Wnttabasko: Jolla recommends against installing Google Services (and thus Google Play) on Sailfish: https://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/201440787#gplay08:34
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ilpianistaflattr support in Harbour?!? can't wait!! http://jollacommunity.it/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Screenshot-17-06-15-23-07-42.png08:35
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TofeYes, that's very good news08:48
Trezkeryay, something uses flattr \o/08:50
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Wntthe official Flattr support announcement: https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2015-June/006266.html09:08
ln-it's certainly illegal for anyone living in finland to use it in their app.09:09
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Nicd-ln-: it's kind of a gray area afaik09:10
Nicd-http://oikeusjakohtuus.blogspot.fi/2010/01/lahjoita.html09:10
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tabaskoWht, alright. I remove it09:14
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chem|sttabasko: unless you really need something with gservices you should not install them09:45
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tabaskochem|st: Its not that important. I can download my paid apps using tools10:02
tabaskodoes anyone know how often cardav syncs?10:02
tabaskoI created two accounts to sync caldav and carddav. Caldav account has sync time option but carddav does not10:03
tabaskousing owncloud so those are in separate paths10:03
Nicd-tabasko: I think it's once per day and after certain events10:03
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tabaskoNicd-: oalright10:08
locusfany other big news other than Flattr today :) ?10:27
locusfOSS namely10:27
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Armadillodepends on your definition of "big" ;)10:53
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chem|stlocusf: I found a new lake in the woods... well actually the woods became a lake this morning... (big enough?)11:06
* chem|st is soaked wet from 40min in the woods11:06
locusfchem|st: heheh don't catch a cold :)11:09
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clauhi, I've noticed that Android Notifications by coderus stopped working after latest release. any clue if this is an incompatability issue between Android Notifications and Jolla (either OS or Android VM), or did Android VM stop producing notifications completely?12:52
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chem|stwe really need a way to prevent these btrfs lockups... anyone an idea about that? Would it work better if we setup subvolume quota?13:29
ggabrielwill a quota help?13:33
ggabrielgiven that you may or may not get locked up depending on a number of things13:33
ggabrielmy btrfs volume was full for a while before the nightly balance and I never had problems, a quota may have made things worse for me13:34
ggabrielit isn't a bad idea though13:34
ggabrielif only you had a quota for the metadata or whatever it is that can't be written any more13:35
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chem|stggabriel: either you or me are misunderstanding metadata...15:52
ggabrielchem|st: probably me15:53
ggabrieli know the btrfs problem is related to metadata, just not sure exactly how15:53
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chem|stggabriel: it is mis/unallocated datachunks that give you space back, at least from what I understand...15:55
chem|stthat is at least waht balance -dusage cleans up iirc15:55
ggabrieluhm... ok15:56
ggabrielso it's clear then that those data chunks get misallocated across volumes15:56
ggabrielso not sure a quota will work15:57
ggabrieli like your principle though, it's pretty  much like open bsd works if you use the default fs partitions15:57
ggabriels/fs/disk/15:57
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Llg179hi19:08
Llg179anyone is active hete?19:08
Mikaelahi19:09
Llg179would you please run a command on your jolla phone and provide its output?19:10
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Llg179https://together.jolla.com/question/95709/19:11
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Llg179find /home/nemo/.local/share/ -ls | grep -v "nemo *nemo"19:13
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Taaemhttp://www.theverge.com/2015/6/18/8808189/nokia-is-returning-to-phones thats a nice one19:34
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ln-in plain english: they'll be branding some generic android phone as nokia.19:41
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kimmoliLlg179: https://pastebin.com/LrGbjKka19:45
Llg179thank you!19:46
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Llg179kimmoli: thank you so much! would you please run it again as root? there is a permission denied folder in the list19:50
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kimmolimoment19:51
Llg179my apology for not being accurate19:52
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kimmoliLlg179: this is the privileged part:  https://pastebin.com/hJHp8Pwt19:58
Llg179thank you!19:59
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sakustarwas there an app to group icons into foders?20:06
fluxsakustar, somehow automatically or what do you mean?20:07
sakustarmanually is fine20:07
fluxwell, you can do that with the stock firmware, as long as it's up to date..20:07
sakustaroh?20:07
fluxjust drag an element over another I think20:07
sakustar*tries*20:08
sakustaroh20:08
sakustarthanks20:09
sakustarthey tend to slip out of the way but it worked :)20:09
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Mikaelaok crashing official aptoide, this game can be played two directions. if you are crashy, I will simply use Jolla Store Aptoide and add the same three stores and update with it.20:24
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Mikaelahmm and it stops crashing when facebook and messenger are updated with the old jolla store versio.20:26
Mikaelaor not20:27
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pdanek1Do you think there will be no Jolla 2 this year?20:44
pdanek1Last year it was said that new phone will be "no later than next year"20:44
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kimmolijolla 2 is released feb/201620:51
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pdanek1kimmoli: why do you think so?20:52
r0kk3rzmore like feb 20001620:52
fennekkiwhy would there be another jolla phone20:52
fennekkiI thought there wasn't supposed to be another one20:53
fennekkimore sailfish ones by others but20:53
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r0kk3rzwell they wanted to sell 1M jphones, which they didnt get anywhere near20:54
r0kk3rzso no doubt they made a significant loss over the whole thing20:55
kimmoliso what it could be named, sailfish phone manufactured by someone?20:55
r0kk3rzwell we're supposed to find out soon20:57
r0kk3rzI do wonder whether its going to accompany a device announcement of some kind20:57
r0kk3rzor just a [manufacturer] says maybe20:58
fennekkiI think there was some rumor about a manufacturer saying maybe already20:58
r0kk3rzwell they said one would be announced before summer break21:00
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sakustarstupid here maps on android21:02
sakustardo the new lumias still have decent offline maps?21:02
sakustarmy 820 navigator was taken :(21:03
fennekkisummer break21:04
fennekkiof schools? The one that started first week of June?21:04
fennekki:V21:04
Obi-Lan640xl ok21:08
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BBLobsterHi22:43
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BBLobsterIs there any way to create qml component recursively? I am implementing a chat where user can resend messages to another user, so as a result I want to see message component containing another message22:46
BBLobsterBut I dont know maximum depth of such forward messages, so I cannot just create prototypes for each situation22:47
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BBLobsterFor now I use Loader component to load component recursively, but there is 2 bugs - firstly, it is very slow, so if I had 100 messages in chat with a lot of forwarded messages, it took up to 2 second to load page22:49
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BBLobsterSecondly, scroll bar behavior strange - Loader component (as I understand) unload my component when it hidden, so when I scroll overall height changes22:50
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BBLobsterMay be someone know good way to create items recursively, or some ideas how to make that part of code work faster, and without scroll bugs?22:54
BBLobsterBy now, I have only one idea - move that component to C++ code, where I would be able to create item without Loader component22:55
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BBLobsterOh, sorry, wrong chat I think, right?23:07
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fennekkihumm23:18
fennekkiI dunno if you can make components in JS. Possibly? I never tried it23:18
fennekkiMostly because it turned out none of the OTHER stuff I needed to do could be done in JS23:18
fennekkiI mean, create them recursively, anyway23:18
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BBLobsterhm, I think it may work23:36
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