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Yanielkrosos: problems with the usbnet module?03:17
Yanielon the host side03:17
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Liekeoh boy, the spam is back again05:02
* tbr checks05:03
tbrall spammers blocked for now05:06
Liekethank you05:06
tbrtoo many items to delete manually, I'll leave cleanup to tigeli and the others in jolla's IT05:06
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tbrbam, next one blocked05:29
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ppmoooore spam :(07:17
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* pp once had a great solution to chinese wikispammers (page was in finnish and nobody outside the city had any reason to edit), geoip from .cn tries to edit -> redirect to google.cn "free tibet"07:22
Jope:-)07:28
gabriel9how to sync contacts from jolla to nexus 5?07:30
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zuttopp: that surprisingly works very well :P07:34
zuttojust mentioning "free tibet" in the edit page will make them all go away07:35
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flux<!-- free tibet --> ?-)07:41
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ppmaybe "kim jong-un support group" would work for korean ones07:46
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SQUelcherMy wife is just installing sailfish SDK on her computer... <309:03
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SfietKonstantinWSQUelcher: Oo09:11
ggabrieldouble edged sword ;)09:12
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pphmpf, mobylife still waiting for spare parts (new display for my phone) :(10:54
ppwonder if 2.0 will be out before I get it back :-)10:54
till-I got a new display some weeks ago10:55
ppdid they have to wait for parts back then?10:56
till-not that I noticed10:56
till-it took some time for care to respond to my messages though10:56
till-so it's possible to get new displays but no new batteries? :D10:57
ppor maybe they'll get the display at the same time they would get a new battery :-)10:58
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krosos"05:17:40 Yaniel           krosos: problems with the usbnet module?" I'm not sure, there are instructions/recommendations on wiki.gentoo.org what to build in or set as module in the kernel for android phone usb ip support. the jolla is just not popping up as an ethernet card with those.11:19
krososs/card/device thing11:19
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Yanielyou need to have the usbnet module loaded (RNDIS)11:19
Yanielthen it should appear as a network interface11:20
Yanielyou'll still have to assign it an IP address11:20
krososwhat is loaded is.. let me check11:20
krososexactly RNDIS is not loaded. USB_CONFIGFS_RNDIS [=n] others are.11:21
Yanielthe module name on arch is "usbnet" IIRC11:22
Yanielwell, RNDIS is the thing the jolla uses11:22
krosos"< >     Ethernet Gadget (with CDC Ethernet support) (NEW)" who would have know.. okay, thanks11:24
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TemeVI just started thinking, how much damage can one cause with Karma on tjc?11:29
TemeVI mean, generating some karma with fake questions and aswers using a botnet is not that difficult11:30
krososin kernel terms i also needs CONFIG_USB_ETH right11:30
krososwhere options is  "Ethernet Gadget (with CDC Ethernet support)"11:31
YanielI don't know about the kernel11:32
Yanielbut CONFIG_USB_ETH sounds reasonable11:32
till-are whatsup users getting banned (again)?11:32
krososokay, i try it in some time after recompiling. thanks so far Yaniel11:33
TemeVOh, 200 is enough for editing and closing questions. So the spammers could quite easily start messing up valid questions... Let's see when they figure that out :)11:33
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the_mgtTemeV: that whole system is kind of stupid, like most forum ranking systems11:35
TemeVYeah, I just noticed that I have the "maximum karma" already11:35
TemeVnow, I just have to think what to do with my powers... *evil laughter*11:36
the_mgtand it is too easily earned, imho. of course you lose karma if you mess around, but..11:37
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TemeVIt seems 90% of my karma is from a single answer. That is way too much...11:40
ggabrielmust have been a useful answer ;)11:41
the_mgtmine is from a question that borders on clickbaiting11:42
TemeVwell, 31 upvotes, it's not that much. But it is enough to reach the 200 limit to get full powers11:42
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ggabrielTemeV: upvotes? :)11:43
ggabrielsome reddit influence there? :)11:43
TemeVwell, what are those up and down arrows called then?11:43
ggabrielvotes?11:44
ggabrielit's fair enough the upvote anyway11:44
ggabrieljust made me laugh11:44
TemeVand actually, I don't do reddit11:45
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dv_spotify for sailfish? sweet!11:59
dv_next: sailfish 2.0 for the phone :)12:00
lukedirwalkerdv_: where spotify?12:01
clauCuteSpot12:02
clauit's in Store. But, it has limited functionality. First of all, you need a premium account, and then you will probably want to create play lists from the Android client or desktop.12:03
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lukedirwalkerclau: I know CuteSpot, I'm the current maintainer :P just thought dv_ might have some information about official client12:04
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clauoh, _that_ lukedirtwalker. nice job with CuteSpot, thanks for maintaining it :)12:13
ppyea, I think they made one internally for a hackfest, but haven't released it12:14
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lukedirwalkerthanks, recently haven't had much time to work on it though12:16
TofeWith the introduction of "trust" for the certificates, is the use of wpa_supplicant modified ? Does the path to the certificate bundle change?12:18
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dv_lukedirwalker: http://www.jollausers.com/2015/06/spotify-for-sailfish-os-shown-on-video-not-public-yet/12:24
lukedirwalkerdv_:  ah yeah but it is not sure if that will ever be publicly available.12:25
dv_would be amazing though12:27
dv_is cutespot based on libspotify?12:28
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ggabrielwould it? isn't the guy coding it in his spare time? it'd be amazing if spotify supported that initial development, yes, but i'm not sure whether one guy's effort is amazing or any different to any other person's effort12:28
dv_yeah, I assume it would be usable by non-premium users as well12:29
dv_and that spotify would officially support it at some point12:29
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dv_*that* would be amazing12:29
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ggabrielit's a no brainer... free dev _but_ they have to maintain an apparently non popular mobile os12:30
ggabrieli remember spotify said something non commital about all this12:30
ggabriellike nothing or we don't confirm/deny12:30
ggabrieland so on12:30
ggabrielor at least the dev said that even tho he worked for spotify, he spoke on his behalf only12:30
ggabrielin the meantime, soundcloud.com works just fine :P12:31
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TemeVIs spotify popular in India? If the Intex device gets some good sales there, Spotify might get more interested on supporting Sailfish12:35
lukedirwalkerdv_: yes CuteSpot is based in libspotify12:35
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Yanielspotify with lockscreen controls and maybe partnerspace(?) could be nice12:36
Yaniel...at least if it can properly handle local files12:36
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TemeVSomekind of integrated media app would be nice. Spotify, local files, internet radio, etc. all in one app12:37
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Yanielyes12:38
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tadzikon the latest update it takes *AGES* for jolla to get mobile network after a reboot. Just me?13:04
ggabrieltadzik: latest ea? or latest ga?13:04
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tadzikea13:20
ggabrielah, can't comment there i'm afraid13:20
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krososso i still get no connection. should i paste you some outputs in a file online or should I try #gentoo directly?15:04
krososwell, no connection: i need usb ip to the jolla, which does not happen although I have the modules loaded15:05
ggabrielkrosos: recovery mode or normal?15:06
krososrecovery mode, the phone is borked at the moment15:06
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ggabrieluhm... it connected to mine straight away15:06
krososi pressed volume down + power on, connected USB to computer, nothing15:06
ggabrieldefine "nothing"15:07
krososi get readings that it is a jolla and so on, but no new eth device15:07
ggabrielare you trying to start eth1 or usb0?15:07
ggabrielas in /etc/init.d/net.eth1 start15:07
krososwell i did 'ip a' and no changes15:07
krososor in devices15:07
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krososnothing new15:07
ggabrieluhm... can't test atm tbh15:08
krososit's been a while, but USB IP still needs a valid device to start before i can /etc/init.d/net.name15:08
ggabrieli do remember having to start something though15:08
krososlet me paste a combined output.15:09
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ggabrielyou have usbnet loaded, right?15:10
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krososhttps://ptpb.pw/TGYw yes. but i'll check again15:12
ggabrielyou sure that's recovery? that mass storage is really weird15:13
ggabrieloh, says product:  recovery15:13
krososdurrrrrr. not loaded. okay, i try to load it first, i assumed it was loaded. but lsmod | grep usb  gives me exactly nothing15:13
ggabrielsorry i can't help... maybe somebody else can give you an lsusb -v of the jolla device for you to compare15:14
ggabrielofc if you miss something, it's a matter of kernel modules15:14
ggabrieli can't help right now* (what i meant)15:15
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krososyes, that would be nice.  well, i compiled the modules in which I think were needed after talking to someone here earlier.15:15
krososokay15:15
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krososbut thanks :)15:15
ggabrieli have gentoo and it worked in, erm, march :P15:15
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krososthat's the current part of my kernel for | grep USB_NET : https://ptpb.pw/t3O615:23
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krososfrom my understanding it should work.15:24
krososbecause i also have https://ptpb.pw/O6jr15:24
ggabrielkrosos: i've got CONFIG_USB_NET_RNDIS_HOST=m15:24
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ggabrielcdc_subset is m too15:25
ggabrielcdc* is m actually15:25
krososoh, i need the host. i thought this was virtual machine related.15:25
krososthat could be the issue15:25
krososthanks!15:25
ggabrielah, man15:25
krososi'll try15:25
ggabrielif you put y, reboot15:25
ggabrielif you put m, reload kernel module15:25
ggabrielin the past, some drivers worked with m and not y15:26
ggabrielnot sure we're past those dark ages or not15:26
ggabriels/man/being/15:26
krososi'm new to gentoo.. okay.15:26
ggabrielas i don't know the gender :P15:26
ggabrielanyway, yeah15:26
ggabrielreboot, safest15:26
tigelitbr: now we have set another barrier for spammers, let's see if they can pass it :D15:26
ggabrieladd the rndis for fun (as m)15:26
tbrtigeli: nice :)15:27
SfietKonstantinWtigeli: what kind of barrier ? I have seen nothign atm15:33
tigeliSfietKonstantinW: because the spammers are being automatically blocked ;)15:33
SfietKonstantinWI mean: I have seen nothing preventing me to post (capcha or anything)15:34
ggabrielmaybe your user is trusted15:35
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tigeliSfietKonstantinW: https://together.jolla.com/question/100206/spam-prevention-at-tjc/?comment=101850#comment-101850 ;)15:36
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tigeliSfietKonstantinW: try posting posts which mostly have only non-ascii chars15:37
tigeli(or don't)15:37
SfietKonstantinWok :)15:37
SfietKonstantinWso chinese and indian people won't be happy :P15:37
tigeliwell, they still should only use english15:38
ggabrielisn't there a rule that says you have to write in english?15:38
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krososit works! at least in output and autoconnection.16:07
ggabrielkrosos: :)16:07
krosos[   77.497685] rndis_host 1-2:1.0 eth0: register 'rndis_host' at usb-0000:00:14.0-2, RNDIS device, 00:01:02:03:04:016:07
ggabrieleth0?16:07
ggabrieluhm...16:07
ggabrieldon't you have wired eth in your computer?16:07
krososyeah, got renamed and all16:07
ggabrielok16:08
ggabrielyou will have to assign an ip manually me thinks16:08
ggabrielnot sure dhcp works there16:08
krosos-> "[   77.544517] systemd-udevd[4503]: renamed network interface eth0 to enp0s20u2"16:08
ggabrieli lost all respect for you now16:08
ggabriel;)16:08
krososi don't have systemd16:08
krososit's just that part16:08
ggabrielok, maybe regaining respect a little bit :P16:09
ggabrielyeah, ok, just assign ip and go16:09
krososno, networkmanager + dhcp autoassigned adress16:09
ggabrieli'm sure you have the ip in tjc somewhere16:09
ggabrieloh, works? cool16:09
ggabrieli never actually tried16:09
krososi'll try now with telnet16:09
krososwell... after 'emerge telnet'16:10
ggabrielha16:10
ggabrieluse nc otherwise16:10
krososmy laptops have telnet.16:10
krososnc?16:10
ggabrielnetcat16:10
ggabrieli'm joking (kind of)16:10
ggabrieltelnet is easier16:10
krososkernel configuring can be tricky but coming from archlinux the gentoo learning curve wasn't that high, kernel gets easier16:12
CoolgeekMaster Lennart guide us. Master Lennart teach us. Master Lennart protect us. In your light we thrive. In your mercy we are sheltered. In your wisdom we are humbled. We live only to serve. Our lives are yours.16:12
* Coolgeek hide16:12
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ggabrielkrosos: it's a lost art ;)16:17
krosospsyced still offers telnet if you configure it that way. telnet(and other legacy protocolls) over tor.16:18
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krososcontacts (phonebook) are in /home/nemo/.local/share/system/privileged/Contacts/qtcontacts-sqlite/ ?16:33
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pdanekSo the Indian phone manufacturer is gonna make just some $155 Sailfish OS device.17:10
pdanekNothing high-end.17:10
pdanekI doubt it will replace our Jollas.17:10
pdanekIf it will be better than Jolla, then there is no reason why should anyone still buy 250EUR Jolla anymore, only for TOH maybe.17:11
Yanielsource?17:11
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ninnnuIIRC the specs weren't particularly better than Jolla's.17:16
Coolgeekerf, my order is still in "In pucking" state >_<17:17
Coolgeekpicking*17:18
r0kk3rzspecs arent even really announced yet17:21
r0kk3rzso who knows what it will look like17:21
CoolgeekI know what it will look like17:21
Coolgeekit will looki like a phone17:22
* Coolgeek hide17:22
ninnnur0kk3rz: At least the reference model had Snapdragon 410 (1,4Ghz quad-core), 1GB RAM, 8GB internal storage17:22
ninnnuThe one they showed at MWC17:22
r0kk3rzyeah but is that what they will run with?17:23
ninnnuI don't think it'll differ much17:23
r0kk3rzthere were several reports, and they were all different17:23
ninnnuYeah17:23
r0kk3rzso until they launch an actual device, im remaining skeptical17:23
pptelnet is not a replacement for nc (and vice-versa :-) )17:24
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Lipevakala_pdanek: Maybe more taan one? But read this to the end.... http://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2015/07/18/jolla-licences-sailfish-os-2-0/17:30
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pdanekLipevakala_: yes, I read it before, but the others will come later, I need Jolla replacement asap haha17:38
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Stskeepspdanek: how is jolla1 highend? :P17:39
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r0kk3rzpdanek: buy another jolla then :P17:57
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krososdoes jolla recognize ext4 formated micro sd cards?18:31
Yanielyes18:31
krososokay, good. time to try n fix it18:31
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krososunmounting volumes on the jolla takes it good long time..18:53
krososactually way too long.18:56
krososokay, telnet's fault. never mind me.18:57
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krososhttps://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/204709607-How-do-I-use-the-Recovery-Mode-   -> 1. Download the "recovery-menu" (~19.8Kb) file attached to this article, and save it on your PC. <- isn't that obsolete with recovery-menu being on the jolla now? (I'm not sure if that's the default, factory case)19:01
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krososwell this factory reset script.. how often is "you may have to repeat this a couple of times"? after "mounting...." i get no further telnet output.19:08
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krososdo i need to set "3) Bootloader unlock [Current state: locked]" to unlocked before the reset script finishes?19:35
Stskeepsbootloader unlock is raarely needed19:36
krososwell, i tried it 6 times now and it's stuck at:  https://ptpb.pw/2RFh.png19:36
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krososi'll just try to contact support tomorrow. i can't get it unstuck.19:48
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