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dv_there are several file manager programs in the mail jolla store and in openrepos. so far though I didnt find any which has two panels, like midnight/norton commander, or supports access to samba shares.06:53
dv_any app suggestions?06:53
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Nicd-cargo dock has two panels I think?06:53
lpotterandroid has total commander that works06:54
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ggabrielboo, I have to delete ~/.qmf again08:51
ggabrielit lasted quite a while this time08:52
SfietKonstantinWggabriel: why ?08:55
SfietKonstantinWwhat happened ?08:55
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ggabrielSfietKonstantinW: sometimes it stops sync'ing with dovecot08:58
ggabriele.g., delete on the phone, won't get deleted on the server08:58
ggabrielit's been happening for a while, since meego times08:59
ggabrieli blame google, if you ask me08:59
ggabrielor alphabet08:59
ggabrielor both08:59
SfietKonstantinW:D08:59
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entilheya guys, what's up with all the connection icons (wlan, 3g data, etc) disappearing from my settings except for airplane mode?10:57
ilpianistapp_: my jolla is coming back! display replaced. It took less then I was expecting, cool!10:59
fluxilpianista, so how long?10:59
ilpianistaflux: they got it 7th, sent back 11th11:00
ilpianistaflux: so, 1 working day?11:00
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ilpianista(it takes 1 week from here to finland)11:00
fluxilpianista, nice11:01
ilpianistayup11:01
ilpianistaI was expecting it for September11:01
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entilreally weird, did I accidentally configure something to make the icons go away?11:04
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entilor did it get fscked by something?11:04
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elenrilhi11:06
tadzikhello elenril11:06
elenrilso i just updated the system to 1.1.6.27 and alien dalvik refuses to start11:06
tadzikentil: totally gone?11:06
entiltadzik: yes, totally, also in the cover11:06
tadzikentil: can you re-add them alright?11:06
entiltadzik: where from?11:06
tadzik(press and hold the regular settings icon, add to favorites)11:07
tadzikyou can add almost anything from Settings to those, but toggles work best11:07
entilpress and hold what? add to what?11:07
elenrilseems alien dalvik now lives in /opt/alien/system, but the startup scripts refer to /system11:07
tadzikokay, hold on, I'll do it myself and guide you :)11:07
tadzikentil: go to settings11:07
elenrildid i manage to screw up the upgrade somehow?11:07
tadzikentil: System11:08
entilyeah, cuz holding the icon just gives me the option of removing icons, so I must be off :D11:08
tadzikentil: WLAN11:08
tadzikentil: press and hold the topmost WLAN thing11:08
tadzikwait, wait11:08
entilwhoah thanks11:08
tadzikoh11:08
entilI got the wlan icon now11:08
tadzikalright :)11:08
tadzikI got confused for a moment11:08
entilytf did they disappear in the first place11:08
entiladding mobile data causes an empty link with ‼ for its icon11:10
entilor maybe it's !! but the font throws me off11:10
entilanyway, that was nice, to be able to turn off data transfer, but now it's broken :(11:11
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tadzikhuh :(11:16
tadzikis that early access update?11:16
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entilyeah I actually am on the early access stuff11:28
entilno idea when the icons went away, maybe my pocked unlocked the screen and did things11:29
tadzikearly acccess broke networking and icons for me too in unexpected ways11:29
tadzikI wonder if anyone from jolla noticed, I reported on tjc but you never know if they read it11:30
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entilhmm I can't find anything about icons on the tjc list11:32
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entilfront page list, that is, or quickly searching11:32
tadzikhttps://together.jolla.com/question/102677/jolla-has-serious-connectivity-problems-in-11724/ is my problem11:35
entilok, I haven't noticed connectivity issues as yours, but that doesn't mean they might not be there11:37
entilI'm just so fscking annoyed at not having the data transfer setting in my favorites anymore11:38
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Temetadzik: did you try with a different operator?11:39
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Temeseems that in the single comment to the single answer someone from Finland says that their operator caused a problem11:39
TemeVentil: so you lost the favorites from settings front page? Did you try setting them back?11:39
TemeVfind the item from settings and long press11:40
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entilTemeV: the problem is I can't, the mobile network one fails11:40
TemeVok, weird11:41
TemeVbut you can still use the settings?11:41
TemeVjust can't make them favorite?11:41
tadzikTeme: no, indeed. I could borrow somebody's simcard, but it worked perfectly fine before the update11:42
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tadzikso I guess code became overly optimistic and broke some operators11:43
tadzikor something11:43
Temeyeah, well checking with another sim card will give a lot of valuable info if the other one works11:44
Temeso probably best to do that and report on TJC11:44
tadzikright you are11:44
entilTemeV: I have no idea where to toggle data transfers11:47
entilover mobile internet11:47
entilI tried the mobile data icon thingy under Mobile network11:47
TemeVentil: settings->mobile network11:48
TemeVthe first item11:48
entilthis is what causes the !! icon and an empty page11:48
entilTemeV: the first item being the up/down arrows next to Saunalahti Internet?11:48
TemeVyes11:48
pp_AARGGGGGGGG11:48
entilcuz that's what causes the !! icon, and clicking it opens an empty page :( :(11:49
entilhave I uncovered a bug now11:49
TemeVok, so your settings are brokin11:49
pp_ilpianista: fixed display, yes, but they didn't fix my broken sensors (which supposedly are included with display)11:49
entilTemeV: my settings, or my settings app?11:49
entilI doubt my settings are broken11:49
pp_-> jolla thinks it's being in my pocket :(11:49
TemeVentil: I'd guess settings app, but I don't know really11:49
pp_had some mcetool magic to disable that, but that has nasty side-effects11:50
entilas soon as I get off work, if I don't fall asleep for 48 hours, I'll look into reporting this as a bug and seeing what kind of reception it gets on tjc11:50
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entilbut thanks for the help anyway :)11:51
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Teemuentil, you need to solder like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5MNLTc7YhY14:09
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dv_i didnt know there are sailfish apps for telegram and reddit!14:20
dv_and both are very nice!14:20
dv_the one missing thing for me in the reddit app: if its a youtube link, open it with YTPlayer (if installed) instead of the browser14:20
SfietKonstantinWdv_: this is a big missing feature from SFOS14:21
SfietKonstantinWability to register url pattern matching and app to open14:21
dv_yes14:21
dv_also for android apps14:21
dv_if an android app wants to open a youtube link, also use ytplayer if installed14:22
dv_the rest of quickddit is very slick. I like the sailfish-UI look a lot more than the one from android apps (same for sailorgram)14:22
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hypnicVZOBytoway, my phones screen did also have nasty yellow spots. Dropped it about noon to the service and now see its done. So maybe can pick it up tomorrow? Now they have plenty of time and spares?14:33
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entilTeemu: can't really focus, sorry, but looks hard-core enough15:37
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Teemuentil nvm it's just something very cool16:04
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GyrthJolla jolla jolla18:28
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GyrthI want my tablut18:30
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GyrthWith the touching screen.18:36
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GyrthThe jollloo tablet is the second kickstarter I backed. And both of them are delayed :D18:39
GyrthDoes Jolla mean anything btw? Like in Viking speak or somthing?18:42
Siddeyes, it's the finnish word for dinghy18:42
GyrthLike a little boat?18:43
SiddeJolle in Swedish18:43
SiddeGyrth: yes18:43
GyrthOh, hmm. Why?18:43
SiddeDon't know, i like the entire sailing theme though because i'm a sailor :D18:44
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SiddeGyrth: every update of sailfish is named of a lake in finland too18:45
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GyrthHmmm. Weird Finish people. Like the vodka skating guy on youtube.18:47
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Nicd-Finnish*18:48
Nicd-the vodka skating guy is not Finnish18:48
Nicd-he is Norwegian18:49
GyrthEh, same thing.18:50
SiddeGyrth: finns are like the rest of the scandinavians but with one major difference. They have knives18:50
Sidde;)18:50
Siddeand as a swede, we must hate them. except when we love them as brothers18:51
Nicd-also we're not really scandinavian18:51
Nicd-and we're really different from all the other nordic people18:51
zuttoplus finland isnt in scandinavia at all18:52
SiddeNicd-: depending on which culture we're emphasising on though18:52
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Siddezutto: yes, but geographically neither should denmark be either18:55
zuttoyup18:56
Siddeor, the north western part of finland is acctually a part of the mountain ridge18:57
Siddehttps://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Scandinavia-mountains.png18:57
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Morpoghttp://tabletmonkeys.com/jolla-tablet-files-with-fcc-and-may-eventually-launch/20:09
MorpogJolla Tablet inside20:09
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Stskeepsboriiing20:16
Stskeeps:P20:16
Stskeepsanybody can do fcc lookups20:16
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r0kk3rzSidde: jolla is likely to be a reference to the 'burning platform' memo22:02
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