#jollamobile log for Thursday, 2015-08-13

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tiwakehttp://www.osnews.com/story/28774/Lenovo_used_firmware_to_install_persistent_crapware02:25
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pp_heh, now they suspect it's the circuit board and ask them to send it back, lessee if they agree with "fix it or figure out it's unfixable without charging me anything"06:32
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cvpGood Morning... my Proximity Sensor is broken. If some one call me, the display turns off and i cant accept the call, i have to wait until the caller stop calling me. Is it possible to deactivate this function over terminal?06:43
pp_indeed :D mcetool --set-ps-mode=disabled06:45
pp_see https://together.jolla.com/question/79021/disable-proximity-sensor/06:45
pp_prepare to put people on hold with your cheek tho :(06:46
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cvppp_: cool, this helps me :) thank you :)07:16
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citylight2upgrading, yet chrome is not longer browsing for me08:16
citylight2I can run it and input text, but I can not open any websites08:16
citylight2hope this upgrade fixes it08:17
citylight2no still does not work: 44.0.2403.13308:21
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lainwir3d\o/08:48
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Yanieloh look an update09:57
lainwir3dwait, what ?09:57
Nicd-1.1.7.2709:58
urs1.1.7.27 (13.8.2015): Fix a reboot issue when using hotspot with GPS and an icon scaling issue for favourite settings09:58
ggabriel\o/09:58
ggabrielstill ea tho09:58
urssays https://together.jolla.com/question/98953/release-notes-117-bjorntrasket/09:58
ursdoes it fix the keyboard layout thing?09:58
lainwir3dhmmm.... early access again09:58
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mattaustinOnce I went outside the GPS started working after a few minutes, so all good there :)10:02
Nicd-urs: the changelog does not say so probably not10:03
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PawkyWhat happened to Video phone calls using 3g?... Did it all die out when all phones could use internet?10:13
PawkyTo my knowledge its not possible to do such call using Jolla, right?10:13
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ursI don't even know what standard those were using10:13
ursskype technologically overtook all of these approaches.10:13
SQUelcherPawky: They disappeared tohether with MMS, WAP and Joyn10:13
pp_not to mention push to talk10:13
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Pawkyso... what to use in Jolla then?10:14
PawkyIts odd its not implemented anymore as this means you can only call people having a certain app installed :-/ Having all phones implement it you never had to think about such...10:15
Pawkypp_: I thought push to talk was still used in the states? I remember Orange county choppers using it mostly.. LO10:16
PawkyL10:16
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pp_could be, the 3gpp feature never caught on, tried it for a call or two (was free with my operator or whatnot)10:16
Pawkyjust as me :-D10:17
Pawkymade me find my way to the pub after my friends lousy directions.. :-)10:17
Pawkybut its still a bit weird, as people seem to love the video feature in skype...10:18
TemeVwasn't that video phone call thingy just a Nokia thing? Did some other manufacturer support it?10:20
tbrI've seen a sony-ericsson phone do it. But that was probably running symbian too at that time. :)10:20
lainwir3dn900 video call was using a skype backend I think10:21
lainwir3dvia telepathy10:21
zuttogoogle talks also supported video calls10:21
lainwir3dtrue10:21
zuttobefore hangouts was up10:21
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zuttoand before skype came to android10:21
vrutkovsPawky: https://together.jolla.com/question/415/sip-voip-native-integration/10:22
Pawkyvrutkovs: Is that as good as the Nokia N9 one? :-)10:22
Jareit's supported in the 3g stack, but not all manufacturers have implemented it10:23
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vrutkovsno idea, but I'd rather use something decent (and widely accepted) comparing to skype for one-on-one calls10:23
PawkyJare: thats precisely what I thought10:23
Jarei suppose we will see a comeback, when the operators and phones start to support lte calls10:23
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Pawkyvrutkovs: true.. that SIP phone stuff sounds interesting10:23
vrutkovsnot sure how well it conferences though10:23
vrutkovsother option is talky.io and webrtc10:23
PawkyJare: They don't?10:24
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vrutkovsPawky: okay, in fact talky.io works via Firefox on jolla10:33
vrutkovsits just ugly :)10:33
Mikaelahttps://together.jolla.com/question/9514/support-webrtc-in-native-web-browser/10:33
Pawky:-/10:33
Mikaelaalso https://github.com/Dax89/harbour-webpirate/issues/4110:34
JarePawky: iirc some operators might support lte calls, but mostly circuit switched fallback (lte<->2g/3g) is used at the moment. LTE supports only packet data, so calls would be basically pure voip calls, which means flexibity in audio and video streams10:35
Pawkyoh.. ok.10:39
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phlixiSQUelcher: actually MMS isnt dead at all. AFAIK Apples iMessage, as well as the Google pendant (Hangouts?) both use SMS as fallback for peers that are not on the same platform. However if you put "multi media" in it (e. g. a picture), it becomes an MMS. As a Jolla user you get those "fallback messages" twice as much, since you are neither on Apple nor on Google.11:39
phlixi...and "Joyn" never disappeared, because it never appeared :D11:40
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phlixithe telcos kinda like the music industry  failed regarding messaging, too long they where trying to hard and to long and too much to squeeze out money from sms and mms, now everyone uses whatsapp and the like...11:48
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Teemuthey should have just sold bandwidth and transferred traffic14:10
Teemu"nevermind are you using skype or telco, you pay per the bytes"14:10
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phlixii would also prefer the "dumb tube" model14:42
phlixi:-)14:42
phlixibut obviously they are keen to get more money out of their tubes14:43
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TriztAnyone who has an idea how to cancel a balance which has kept on for 3.5 weeks?18:29
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Nicd-by rebooting18:34
TriztNicd-: don't help, rebooted quite many times and it still keeps on balancing after the reboot18:36
Nicd-ah18:36
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TriztI doubt it will end by itself18:38
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