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Nicd-sniff05:15
Nicd-phone started shutting down again05:15
Nicd-thrice this morning05:15
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StskeepsNicd-: battery contact cleaning dance?05:25
Nicd-never cleaned them05:26
Stskeepsgood time to05:26
Stskeeps:P05:26
Nicd-tohkbd is really difficult to remove though05:26
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Liekeit doesn't work as well as the official tohs, but it's not that hard (with mine at least)05:35
pp_magic duct tape too!05:37
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fluxnicd-, when in doubt, use more force!05:43
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tathhuNicd-: i finally gota jolla which just works \o/06:26
locusfhmm where is qsglayer defined?06:28
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mcfriskwhy does jolla now complain that jolla account needs an update, and why is there random garbage text in the notification and in accounts? Corrupt password database?06:46
Nicd-tathhu: mine worked until now :P06:46
TemeVMy Jolla has started shutting down also. It feels like one of the battery contacts has lost its spring force a bit06:50
mcfriskso, in the last 8 days (since last sw update check) the jolla account data had corrupted.06:50
tbrTemeV: tried cleaning both sides yet?06:51
TemeVmcfrisk: Many people are saying that "Jolla account needs an update". Just type in your credentials again and it should work06:51
TemeVtbr: yes, and it usually has helped. This time it is different though. E.g. dropping the phone from 2cm height makes it boot quite often06:52
tbrah, ok06:52
Nicd-I remember on my N900, closing the keyboard would shut down the phone06:55
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mcfriskTemeV: yes, re-entering the account details 'fixed' the issue, but the data was clearly corrupted by something.07:00
TemeVThe account token just expired (I guess)07:01
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zett_zelettSomeone mentioned the other day that Jolla is gradually running out of Jollas. Is that true?07:50
zett_zelettShould I be quick to order one?07:50
pp_probably, or wait for the new one if it ever comes :-)07:51
Siddecould be a year or 2 though07:52
zett_zelettHow quick are we talking?07:52
tbrquick what?07:53
Siddethe tablet was presented in November and i don't know if it's been shipped07:53
zett_zelettHow quick do I need to get a Jolla?, I mean.07:54
zett_zelett*need to be*07:54
Siddeso i think one should expect that kind of timeframe07:54
tbryour guess is as good as ours.07:54
zett_zelettAren’t some Jolla developers in this channel?07:54
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tbrnobody here knows or at least won't come forward with a number07:54
zett_zelettOk.07:54
TemeVYeah, I guess the Jolla guys on this channel know, but leaking that info might damage the business so they aren't going to do that07:55
Siddeif you just want to play with sailfish it exists ports to Nexus 5 etc. Don't know how well it works though07:55
zett_zelettOther question: When I order the phone, how long does it usually take to dispatch?07:56
Nicd-zett_zelett: yes, they are running out at some undetermined point in the near future. a finnish news site reported "Jolla's online store only has a few phones left"07:56
zett_zelettOk, that’s the kind of information I needed.07:56
coderuswhat about Intex smartphone?07:56
zett_zelettWhen are they releasing? In about a month, right?07:57
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zett_zelett(Thanks, Nicd-.)07:57
TemeVwhat is the equivalent of Christmas in India? I guess before that07:58
zett_zelettAbout that dispatch-question, … does anyone have an idea?08:00
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Nicd-it used to be a couple of weeks08:00
zett_zelettOk.08:00
zett_zelettI’m ordering now. :)08:01
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zett_zelettThanks, guys (and gals (if present (and having been helpful)))!08:01
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zett_zelettOrdered. :)08:05
zett_zelett“however it normally takes 2-3 business days for your order to dispatch.”, by the way.08:05
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Hellestill love random images giving awesome colour themes08:39
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cos-hm, managed to get both character and number keyboard open simultaneously in android app (danske network bank, number query). kb worked though.09:18
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ggabrieluh, exciting news10:28
ggabrielor maybe not10:28
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Stskeepsmm?10:31
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ggabrieli don't know... email from indiegogo10:34
ggabrielbut it's still greylisted10:34
ggabrielah, spam10:36
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arvuthi, when is the bugfix for jollabrowser+youtube comming?13:21
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arvutcant play anything on yt atm thru the built-in webclient13:21
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dr_gogeta86use ytplayer13:25
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arvutdazo: it used to work just fine in the browser14:19
ggabrielarvut: there should be a tjc about this14:19
ggabrielbut in the name of fairness, there should be a bug open with google about this too as it used to work ok14:20
arvutyeah, thats the bug I asked about, its filed some days ago14:21
ggabrielwe should all stop using youtube, that would fix the issue14:24
arvutno we shouldn't14:25
arvuthttps://together.jolla.com/question/114:25
arvutthats the bug14:25
ggabrielthat link 404's14:25
arvutsorry, not whole link14:26
arvuthttps://together.jolla.com/question/105450/bug-youtube-videos-not-playing-on-browser/14:26
arvut3 days old14:26
arvuthow are updates for the browser installed btw?14:27
ggabrielwell, it's open source14:27
ggabrieli suppose you can build from source14:27
ggabrielotherwise you normally wait for an os update14:27
arvutoh14:27
ggabrielunless jolla updates the browser14:27
ggabrieli'd use ytplayer in the meantime14:28
ggabrielor another browser14:28
arvutthis seems rather urgent tho, since the browser has pre-set links to yt videos from jolla14:29
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arvuttutorials etcetera14:29
ggabrielmaybe jolla should move their videos to a more respectable placre :P14:30
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arvuta patch that sorts out the issue would be sufficient14:32
ggabriela patch in this case is only a band aid14:34
ggabrielas google may change their criteria yet again14:34
ggabrieland this wouldn't be the first time it happens anyway14:34
ggabrielnot sure about how critical this is either14:34
ggabrieli mean, considering that there is the pending sfos upgrade14:34
ggabrieland sfos 2.014:34
ggabrieland the tablet14:34
ggabrielhaving said all that, this could be fixed by the community14:35
arvutis 2.0 comming out soon then?14:39
ggabrieltablet delivery estimate is mid sept14:40
ggabrieltablet comes with 2.014:40
ggabrielso, if i put 2.0 and 2.0 together... :P14:40
arvutin october, yes14:40
arvutseptember for those who funded it14:41
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arvutytplayer cant play when screen is off?14:46
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Mikaeladoes anyone have any idea when will lipstick get restart button to Sailfish Utilities?15:50
ggabrielis that not there already?15:51
Mikaelanot for me at least15:52
ggabrielah, no, what do you know15:52
Mikaelaoh, home screen15:52
Mikaelasorry, it's probably that, I have been just scanning for lipstick with my eyes in the menu :)15:52
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ggabrielyou in 1.1.7?15:53
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Mikaela1.1.7.2715:54
Mikaelaand my jolla account has signed itself out again :(15:54
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* Stskeeps really hates closed access scientific journals15:56
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ggabrielStskeeps: pretend to be a search engine and they'll give you access for free15:59
ggabrieloh, did I say that aloud? :P15:59
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Stskeepsggabriel: :P16:10
Stskeepsneed to find an article from 2006 in a journal that hasn't been digitalised16:10
Stskeepsfun stuff16:10
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ggabriel!envy16:11
merbot`ggabriel: Error: "envy" is not a valid command.16:11
ggabriellol16:12
Stskeepswhich has now ended me up in trying to read a japanese article16:13
Stskeeps:P16:13
ggabrielthat'll hard to understand unless you have some knowledge of .jp16:14
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arvutbtw, ytplayer can play with screen off, you just have to resume it from minimalized interface16:26
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* arvut is now happy again, yt abstinence is over =)16:27
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attahDoes anyone understand the last Q on this page? https://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/204709607#418:30
attahIt makes no sense to me, what does the sd card have to do with factory reset?18:30
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Stskeepsattah: you can put an updated recovery memory on there and re-enter the recovery18:37
Stskeepsmemory=mode18:37
attahi should learn to read..18:37
attahi read "the file" as "the recovery image"18:40
attahi copied that file there at least twice already.. but it's different yet again18:41
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attah(and yes i have run the new version too)18:42
Stskeepsi've had that working at least18:42
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attahi must have borked something..18:45
attah@home won't mount anymore.. and most files on root are filled with 'A' (as was the case for home before)18:47
coderusMikaela: i have Restart Home Screen in sailfish utilities18:48
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Stskeepsattah: anything in dmesg?18:59
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attahfailed checksums :(19:00
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attahhttp://piratepad.net/AMdDx6JgSF19:01
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