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aimless_@coderus: yesterday you offered to download the firmware for the part 28 directly from your server. I tried to extract the tar file (originally approx. 250Mb) what never completed but exceeded 13Gb. Does the extracted SW really need so much space?09:55
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Stskeepsaimless_: yes, it's a emmc image09:55
aimless_stskeeps: whats the final size?09:57
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Stskeepsclose to 14-15gb09:58
aimless_ok, then I'll try it again...09:58
aimless_I'll come back in an hour with hopefully a successful result... I need to eat a kebab09:59
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tadzikhey, right! Now you can't silence sounds from lockscreen10:26
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r0kk3rztadzik: volume buttons?10:34
r0kk3rzseems to work for me anyway10:35
r0kk3rzits the only way to silence without switching ambiance anyway10:35
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Hellemmmm, right let's see if I can port Mumble to SailfishOS, should be easy enough, just a UI port10:51
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tadzikroboro: well, that's one way to do it10:56
tadzikerm, r0kk3rz10:56
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pdanekGuys12:20
pdanekdo you realy believe the first Intex device will be 1G ram?12:20
Stskeepsno12:21
pdanekit doesn't make sense to me, why would anyone release 1G device by end of 201512:21
pdanekeven cheapest phones today have 2G12:21
pdanekgood12:22
pdanekbecause I intend to buy intex12:22
pdanekvacation in India in November12:22
pdanekI might order it to hotel address12:22
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pdanekbtw KDE team is writing KDE Connect client in Qt12:23
pdanekbut they said they can't make it well tested for Jolla because they don't have Jolla device12:24
pdanekbut anyway, it should work well12:24
Peperthat would be so nice to have it =)12:26
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fennekkipdanek: well, they could test it with the emulator12:36
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r0kk3rzmaybe someone with a jolla phone will implement12:55
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r0kk3rzpresumably it has a standard interface12:55
r0kk3rzjolla notifications are dbus, so easy to watch for12:55
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r0kk3rzah yeah should be able to integrate with the share menu and such as well12:58
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r0kk3rzclipboard synching might be a bit harder12:59
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r0kk3rzseems doable at any rate13:13
r0kk3rzmight be nice to have a jolla to jolla kde-connect actually13:14
r0kk3rzbetween tablet and phone13:14
r0kk3rzput a link into the relevant TJC item about tablet-phone pairing13:21
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pdanekHey guys,13:46
pdanekSince maybe last 2 updates.13:46
pdanekSometimes when I lose 4G signal and then reconnect.13:46
pdanekSome of my Android apps like Viber, Line etc. don't have connection13:46
pdanekbut all other apps have connection and even when I tether to PC, I can login to Viber on PC with tethered internet13:47
pdanekand when I switch to 3G, the connection works fine13:47
pdanekAny experiences this strange problem?13:47
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pdanekI finally gave it a shot and wanted to start using ambciances as profiles15:25
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pdanekbut I can't find any settings menu to configure those ambiances15:25
pdanekhow do I configure different volumes or loud/silent for different ambciances?15:26
Yanielsettings->system->ambiences15:26
pdanekonly only shotws add ambience, remove or add to menu15:26
pdaneknothing to configure it15:26
pdanekI thought they're profiles15:27
the_mgtwe all did15:27
pdanekwhat's the point of them then?15:28
pdanekjust different background and colors?15:28
the_mgtgimmickery in combination with other halfs, fancy optics and adjustable sounds15:28
pdanekah15:28
pdanekbefore I could at least set silent with one touch15:28
Yaniellooks like you have to re-create the ambience to access its settings screen15:29
pdanekI see15:29
pdanekbecause now I can only put ringtone to silent with putting vlume down15:29
pdanekbut I want to keep volume up15:29
pdanekand only ringtones silent15:29
pdanekthat doesn't seem to be possible with SF2.015:29
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pdanekok now I see15:31
pdanekI can create new ambience15:31
pdanekand setup ringtone etc.15:31
pdanekbut can't change for existing one15:32
pdanekthat's silly15:32
pdanekalmost like sailfish forces me to care about ambiances, even if I don't want to use them15:33
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pdanekJolla should have never started with the other halfs and ambiances, I feel it's just slowing everything else down.15:36
pdanekJust make a great gesture based OS is what people need.15:37
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pdanekDo you think KDE Plasma Mobile will ever come to commercial market and HW vendors?16:04
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friesehumm, do any of you know of a patch that reverses the sides for the eventsview fast-access, ie. swipe from left -> homescreen and swipe from right -> events view17:11
frieseswiping from left for accessing the home screen seems to be the one thing i can't get out of my muscle memory, but i'd also like a fast way to access the eventsview without quiting apps17:12
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coderusfriese: should be easy17:31
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Teguokay what. the phone just shut down when I tried to answer a call18:32
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tbrwas it on 2G or 3G?18:37
Tegu2G18:37
tbrbattery contact cleaning time?18:38
kimmolii dont even remember when i had my last spontanious shutdown/reboot...18:40
Nicd-my last one was today18:40
Nicd-shut down twice and after the last one it did not start anymore18:40
Nicd-had to take off TOHKBD, remove battery and put it back18:40
kimmoliwell, i swapped battery few weeks ago18:41
Tegumaybe, I've never cleaned the contacts18:42
Teguthough, there haven't really been reboots. there were some long time ago but not after that18:43
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cristisomehow my jolla's FS got corrupted while upgrading to 2.019:32
cristiI manually executed btrfs balance and now I have enough space but if I try to chroot I get a lot of corrupted binaries19:32
cristilooks like the libc and some binaries were corrupted at the FS level19:33
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r0kk3rznasty19:35
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cristiI copied busybox-static from the recovery mode and at least I have a shell and I was able to chroot19:44
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cristiI'm going to copy /home/nemo and /data out of it, then I plan to reflash it to factory defaults19:59
cristiis there anything that I should backup?19:59
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cristiI copied it all  busybox-static cat /dev/mmcblk0p28 | busybox-static nc 10.42.66.67 1234520:11
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cristi[ERROR] Flashed recovery image is too old and does not support phone clearing.21:48
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coderusthepiratebay.se/torrent/11635275/Jolla_Factory_Image_to_Reflash_it21:51
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cristicoderus: how big is the extracted image? I don't think I have a lot of SD card storage21:57
cristiI think my biggest card is 16G21:58
coderusit have mmcblk0p28 size22:01
coderus14.8 GB i think, or so22:01
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cristiI think I'll use nc instead, like I did when I macked up my current files22:03
cristibacked up*22:03
cristiluckily the static busybox binary had support for nc :)22:04
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pdanekI'm sorry guys for my earlier rage here in the chat.22:13
pdanekThat was wrong behavior.22:13
Nicd-I don't see any rage22:14
pdanekFew hours ago.22:15
pdanekHappens when someone with personal issues fights with new OS.22:16
pdanekI have actually installed Super Mario ambience now and quite happy.22:16
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r0kk3rzive gotten used to it now22:17
r0kk3rzon balance i think its an improvement22:17
pdanekit has downsides and upsides yes22:17
pdanekmore upsides22:17
pdanekI had to get used to minimazing apps with swipe to left22:18
pdanekbecause swipe to right is useful for getting directly into notifications22:18
pdanekso my finger suffered a bit :D22:18
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pdaneknow it's fine22:18
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Nicd-pdanek: I still don't see any rage :)22:19
r0kk3rzi was already using left swipe for minimising, so easy for me22:19
r0kk3rzi do miss the swipe down to lock though, gone back to pressing the button like a pleb22:19
pdanekNicd-: I guess that's my way of being in rage, I'm very calm person. :D22:20
pdanekHowever, I recommend everyone the Supermario Ambience from Harbour.22:21
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Nicd-from where?22:27
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pdanekFrom Warehouse.22:31
pdanekOpenRepos22:31
pdanekI messed up the name22:32
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TemeVI've really started to like the new Sailfish. Now that app covers don't shuffle randomly I've practically stopped closing apps22:37
TemeVI had to disable the close app by swipe to not accidentally close the apps though :)22:38
TemeVbut now I feel like I'm using the os more efficiently22:39
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pdanekyes, that constant reordering of app covers was pain for quick multitasting23:02
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coderusTemeV: you can even order launched apps manually :)23:05
TemeVcoderus: I know, and I love it :)23:05
TemeVEven better would be if I could pin the apps so they are there after boot also23:06
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cristicoderus: thanks for pointing me to the image, I just called started to pipe it directly into the block device23:18
cristino need for sdcard23:18
cristitar xf jolla-factory.tar.xz -O | pv | nc 10.42.66.66 12345  ===>  nc -l -p 12345 > /dev/mmcblk0p2823:19
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coderuscristi: of course, if you sure in your connection :)23:50

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