#jollamobile log for Sunday, 2015-09-13

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cristicoderus: it worked, the device booted up00:02
cristinow the problem is it doesn't have networking, it keeps asking me to reboot it, but that doesn't help00:03
coderusinstall update via mobile network00:04
coderusor try depmod modules, probably it doesnt loaded because you changed kernel version non traditional way :D00:05
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cristiI don't have developer support enabled00:15
cristisince for some reasons that needs the jolla account, which can't be set up without network00:16
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cristiis there a way to install the developer mode while from the recovery shell?00:28
cristiI have networking but there's no zypper00:28
cristiand indeed, the kernel version is not matching00:29
TemeVAFAIK, you need to install FingerTerm etc packages from the internet00:29
cristiuname -r00:29
cristi3.4.106.20150416.100:29
cristibash-3.2# ls /lib/modules/00:29
cristi3.4.91.20140612.100:29
cristiI need a way to update00:30
cristithe kernel modules00:30
TemeVsorry, I didn't read backlog, what version are you updating?00:31
cristiI tried to update to 2.0, but that completely corrupted the filesystem (most libraries went south) and I had to reflash it00:31
cristiafter I reflashed the wireless network won't start00:32
TemeVdo you have any internet connection?00:32
cristiit seems the modules are older than the kernel I have running00:32
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cristiyes, I am connected via the USB cable00:33
cristiand I'm in the recovery shell, I have it mounted and I'm in the chroot00:33
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cristiI guess I need a way to trigger an OS upgrade00:34
cristiI expect that to change the kernel version and/or the modules00:34
cristior I can recover the modules from my backup00:35
cristiI did a full FS dump before I had it reflashed00:35
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TemeVwhat does "ssu re" say?00:36
TemeV(as root)00:36
cristissu re00:36
cristiconnman not AVAILABLE00:36
cristiDevice release is currently: 1.0.8.1900:36
TemeVok, that's unexpected00:36
TemeVif you're brave try "version --dup" but I don't take any responsibility if you convert your phone to a brick00:38
cristiit's fresh00:38
cristiI mean freshly reflashed00:38
cristican it completely get bricked?00:38
TemeVI think I should also mention that I'm "a bit" drunk so any instruction from me is unreliable :p00:39
cristi:)00:39
cristithe thing is a lot of things are not working from the chroot00:39
TemeVhave you gone the factory reset way already=00:39
TemeV?00:39
cristiyes00:39
cristiI think I just need to get my kernel version in sync with the modules00:40
cristior the other way round00:40
TemeVif you factory reset everything should be "in sync"00:40
cristiI did a dd over netcat, flashing the storage partition00:41
cristibut that didn't change the kernel I was running00:42
cristiI'll do a factory reset now00:42
TemeVoh, hardcore factory reset00:42
TemeVI'd suggest factory reset from recovery mode00:42
coderuscristi: mobile network not working too?00:42
coderusyou need to reinstall kernel-adaptation-sbj00:45
cristiI don't have  SIM for it00:46
coderusoh :D00:46
cristiI had it reset00:47
cristifingers crossed :)00:47
TemeVcristi: but you are connected to internet, right?00:48
cristiI can chat in here, therefore I am :)00:48
TemeV:p00:49
TemeVWhat I mean is your phone is connected...00:49
cristiwe'll see soon :)00:49
TemeVanyway, save all the logs you can, if something goes wrong, it is possible to find something useful from the logs00:50
cristiit worked00:51
cristi:D00:51
TemeVwhat did?00:51
cristiI needed to reset it properly, dd didn't change the kernel to match what was in the disk image00:51
cristiI think the kernel is imaged somewhere else00:51
TemeVSo your phone is working now?00:53
cristiyes, at least I have network :)00:53
TemeVwell, that's a start00:54
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TemeVcristi: please tell us if you problem is solved or if there is still some issues00:57
cristiit's all good, now just I need to apply all the 20 updates one by one and restore from my backups00:57
cristithanks guys, you helped me a lot00:57
coderuscristi: coderus.openrepos.net/jollarecovery/kernel-adaptation-sbj-3.4.91.20140612.1-10.22.1.jolla.armv7hl.rpm00:57
coderusnext time install this package after dd image00:58
TemeVwhat? You should only need like three steps to update to current version00:58
cristithanks, I'll keep in mind00:58
TemeVnot 2000:58
cristinow downloading Yliaanan....00:59
cristifuck, who comes up with these impossible names ? :)00:59
TemeVsome stupid finns00:59
TemeVIf you're downloading Yliaavanlampi there is only a couple of versions after that01:00
fennekkicristi: they're all names of actual lakes in Finland01:01
fennekkilots to choose from01:01
cristihmm, the download exits prematurely01:01
fennekkiI recall Finland having a few hundred thousand lakes01:01
TemeVthere is like 100k "registered" lakes01:02
cristialmost more than people, I reckon :)01:02
fennekki"There are 187,888 lakes in Finland larger than 5 ares (500 square metres)."01:03
TemeVa lake for every 50 person or something like that01:03
TemeVIf you count every puddle I'm sure there is more lakes than people in Finland :)01:04
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Nicd-somehow we are known for our lakes even though sweden and norway have more than we do07:19
Nicd-whoops, was responding to some hours old chat :P07:19
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jaacoppifinland has way more water area compared to land area than sweden or norway08:19
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Nicd-does the jolla phone have exfat support?08:58
coderusjolla phone? hm. i think memory module can be repartitioned as exfat with no problems.09:02
HelleNicd-: officially no, exFAT is a patent encumbered piece of crap09:03
Hellein practice, sure, but you'll have to compile it yourself09:03
Nicd-ah09:03
Nicd-so fat32 it is then09:03
HelleNicd-: or ext/{2..4}09:04
Helledepending on what you plan on doing exactly09:04
Nicd-just using my memory card to store stuff09:04
Nicd-no huge files09:04
HelleNicd-: I'm using ext/4 for it myself, but I have some files over 4GB, so yeah09:04
Nicd-guess I might as well format it as ext409:05
Nicd-just need to install ext4 drivers for my mac09:05
Hellefor the tablet there was a discussion of SDXC support, but SDXC support requires exFAT and hence licensing a rather toxic patent, so officially the tablet also only supports SDHC, though you can reformat a 128GB card just fine09:05
Nicd-actually I think they went for SDXC09:05
HelleNicd-: no, they dropped that09:06
Nicd-"MicroSD slot (up to 128 GB*)"09:06
Nicd-in the specs09:06
Nicd-you can't say that without SDXC and exfat support09:06
HelleNicd-: note the *09:06
Nicd-"* Support for this feature coming in SW update during 2015"09:06
HelleNicd-: oh, it before said depending on filesystem09:06
Helleanyway :)09:07
Hellethat's the rough deal of it09:07
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Nicd-oh damn it09:18
Nicd-my backups from before restoring the phone don't have .config for some reason09:18
Nicd-I lost all my carbudget history :(09:18
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M4rtinK...and that's why I rsync the whole /home/nemo folder somewhere safe09:19
M4rtinKthe built-in backup functionality unfortunately does not cover even all official apps09:19
M4rtinKand has zero support for backing-up third party apps09:20
M4rtinKeven though all of them store data in quite specifif location, so it would not be that difficult to add09:21
Nicd-I did backup with rsync09:21
Nicd-but apparently I failed :(09:21
M4rtinKoops :P09:21
* Stskeeps hands out pitchforsks09:21
Stskeeps-s09:21
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pp_:-)09:26
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pp_oh right, I still need to recover some android app settings (well, game progress) from my nemo backup tarball :P09:27
pp_don't want to replay hill climb racing09:27
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coderuspp_: you think your android games settings are in nemo partition? :D09:56
coderusNicd-: using memory card and reattach it every time to device is very bad strategy imho09:57
Nicd-coderus: what?09:58
Nicd-reattach when?09:58
coderusto connect it to pc or other devices09:58
coderusi think memory card should be always formatted in native device filesystem, and when you connect device to pc it should provide compatible protocols to access your data09:59
coderusyour sdcard filesystem can be not directly compatible on pc09:59
pp_coderus: argggg :D I think got the right dirs tho09:59
coderusbut phone should provide you a way to read/write on it09:59
coderuspp_: i think everything saves in /data/data/packagename10:00
Nicd-coderus: thing is at some point the phone will die or be reset and I will want the stuff from the memory card10:00
Nicd-so I have to be able to read it10:00
Nicd-but as I said I can install ext read drivers on OS X10:01
pp_then again, I haven't actually needed it for > 6 months :-)10:01
coderusNicd-: well :D10:02
coderus"everybody dies"10:02
Nicd-hmmm10:11
Nicd-I repartitioned the memory card with fdisk and rebooted the phone but it still has the old partition table10:11
Nicd-(and no, I didn't repartition the phone my accident :P)10:11
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Nicd-no matter what I do to it it is still shown as W95 FAT3210:22
Nicd-in fdisk10:22
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Victorhi11:15
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tadzik<shameless tjc advertising> https://together.jolla.com/question/109366/calendar-and-the-definition-of-upcoming/12:06
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Tofetadzik: oh, I wasn't aware this item wasn't already created. +1.14:15
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Tegudoes anybody know how to install a root certificate so that the android apps use it? atm only native apps seem to use it15:16
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coderususing some android filemanager/browser? :)15:18
TeguI tried android firefox but apparently it uses its own certificatse15:18
Tegubut a filemanager, hm.. any recommendations?15:19
coderusno, i didn;t tried, just suggesting15:25
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Teguopera just does nothing when trying to access the certificate :/ firefox installed it but only uses it internally16:14
coderusso what do you need cert in android for?16:15
Tegujust for the lulz. that is, intercepting https traffic :D nothing strictly needed16:16
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coderusi can intercept traffic with no certificates16:18
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coderusinstalling iptables rule16:18
TeguI managed to intercept https traffic of native apps already, but apparently android apps don't use the same certificates16:18
Tegucoderus: HTTPS traffic as well?16:19
Teguif yes, please tell how16:19
coderusto charles or mitmproxy16:19
Teguwithout installing certificates?16:19
coderusah no, there was some android app installing root certificates for mitm16:20
coderuseven in play store i think16:20
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Teguon android it's apparently via settings (or not sure if that's root cert..), but that doesn't work on dalvik16:22
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coderusyeah it will be great to have working android settings on jolla :)16:29
Teguyou do have them? :o16:30
coderusno16:30
Teguor wait nvm. "will"16:30
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Teguyou mean they are coming? is it confirmed?16:32
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Tegubecause "will" wasn't really conditional :P16:32
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r0kk3rzs/will/would16:35
Tegu:)16:35
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Teguphew, found this finally: http://patrick.vande-walle.eu/software/adding-ssl-root-certificates-to-android-ics-and-jellybean/17:03
TeguI followed that and now it works17:04
coderusso, works?17:04
coderuscool :)17:04
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Teguor I mainly checked the cert location and that openssl command. earlier I tried the openssl command in here but it apparently had wrong parameters (and openssl 1.0) https://together.jolla.com/question/2949/where-can-i-add-a-system-ca-certificate/17:06
niaoucoderus any news for mazelock for 1.9 ?17:06
coderusniaou: no17:07
coderuswhat news you want?17:07
Teguon jolla the location was /opt/alien/.. instead of those, though17:07
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niaouworking version?17:07
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coderusniaou: i will make it when i have time17:10
niaouok that news i want ty :)17:10
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