#jollamobile log for Sunday, 2015-09-20

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KabouikNow that there are multiple patches to allow landscape on the Jolla, including homescreen, app launcher, events and settings, it's starting to be very convenient to actually use it landscape by default if you have a tohkbd.01:18
KabouikOnly issue is it goes back to portrait if you launch a portrait-only app01:18
KabouikAnd for tohkbd users, I think Quick Launcher app is a must have, but it's only portrait. Is it open source and could it be patched to allow landscape too?01:19
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coderusKabouik: ping tortoisedoc when he awake02:01
KabouikThanks coderus, couldn't find a thread or Openrepos url for quicklauncher so I didn't know who to ask02:01
KabouikI'm off to bed too, I'll see that tomorrow02:02
coderusbecause is not a "quicklauncher"02:02
coderusit's a quickbar02:02
KabouikIt's not the same02:02
KabouikQuickbar is another one02:02
coderusokay02:02
coderuswhat is quicklauncher then?02:02
KabouikQuick launcher is the one you type in like the two or three first chars of your app, and it brings it to you (convenient when you have plenty of them)02:03
Kabouikhttp://www.codingsubmarine.com/projects/jolla-quicklauncher/ here, but I don't know if this guy is the dev02:03
coderusah this one02:03
coderusartema is also in irc sometimes i think02:04
coderusand i don't like any launcher apps where i need to type appname to find it :D02:04
coderusi like icons :D02:05
KabouikIf he is the dev, I could drop a comment on his blog anyway02:05
KabouikYeah I like icons too, specially because I finally sorted EVERYTHING in folders, for the first time since the Jolla was released02:05
KabouikThe factory reset from last time helped :p02:06
KabouikBut anyway, with a tohkbd and alt+tab feature, Quick launcher is very convenient, except it's portrait only so it messes up the landscape homescreen (thank you for this patch by the way, great job!)02:06
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coderuswell, probably i need to make a patch allowing rotation to any direction for everything, but imho it will cause some problems with some apps, so, i'm not usre02:20
KabouikWould be great, but yeah you'll likely face apps whose layout won't work anymore02:21
KabouikAs for the rotated homescreen, I think that the best would be to have covers in landscape too (would be more logical, since you display apps in landscape anyway, you expect thumbnails in landscape too), as on the N900. But I reckon it would yield a LOT of issues :)02:22
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coderuscovers are different, it should be fixed by jolla first, because its designed to be portrait only and have no rotation proprties02:35
KabouikAlright, anyway it's already a huge progress02:36
KabouikI was very excited when I saw all these patches today02:36
KabouikThe applauncher landscape patch has a slight issue: when you open a folder with apps icons inside, it'll show only one row of them (there is much more space available), and it's exactly one line so you don't even see if there are other icons below02:37
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KabouikYou can scroll, but more could be displayed in the first place02:38
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tiwakeshould any given external keyboard work with the tablet?04:13
tiwakeI'd imagine so, but donno... not much information about it?04:14
tiwakeerm, USB keyboard anyway04:14
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taaemI'm wondering what happend to the paid apps support in harbour...10:14
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cb400fmaybe once sfos2.0 and the tablet are out the door, other stuff will start moving again ;-)10:17
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gexc-phoneis it possible to determine if the user is holding the phone in left or right hand?11:37
gexc-phoneif so, thumb swipe->events would be cool11:38
gexc-phoneno matter holding in which hand11:38
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taaemprobably not possible11:46
gexc-phonemore sensors needed lol11:50
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phlixiwell, in theory i am pretty sure its possible to do with just detecting patterns in touch/gesture and accelerometer (or even only one of both)12:48
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phlixihowever, if this is not working reliably, it will be pain to use12:49
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phlixi...or if you know how to easily trick it, you could use it to have either events or the other one right in the place as you need it :D12:50
phlixiprobably more usefull would be to have upper half doing oine thing, lower half the other12:50
phlixibut what ever you try, it will be more complicated (even if only a little bit) then "vanilla", thus it might be bad idea (following the direction wich lead to the new behaviour, which was to make it easier for first time users...)12:51
phlixioh, just realise, that gexc quits and joins just while i write :D12:53
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cvpHello, is there a dalvik cleaner avaible for 1.1.9 ?12:54
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coderus" The applauncher landscape patch has a slight issue"13:14
coderusKabouik_: patch have issue, really? Not sfos folder style? you think so?13:14
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coderuscvp: god please no!13:16
coderusschturman not yet received phone after repair and did not any stuff destroying 1.1.9.x yet13:17
gexclol13:17
tadzikhaha,shots fired13:18
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cvpcoderus: :P13:20
coderuscvp: if you want to clean something you can ask here13:21
cvpcan i upgrade from 1.0.4 directly to 1.1.9 over terminal ? :)13:23
cvpor do  i need really install the two updates13:23
pp_You get to keep both two pieces if you try ;)13:25
coderuscvp: no, you should follow suggested versions in ui13:25
cvpthx... i will try it... hate the two updates... dl takes sooo long :(13:27
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pp_hehe, isn't it three if you have 1.0.0.5 on the recovery partition13:32
pp_... and the first one fails pretty easily13:32
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cvpcoderus: do you read my post in patch thread. i post two pictures. is it hard to do that ?13:46
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phlixii have alot of updates in warehouse, but installing one takes ages and i get "warehouse is not responding" every few seconds...14:13
phlixiis that normal?14:13
coderuscvp: pulley should be possible14:14
coderusand homescreen pages is carousel, but you can't add apps here, only some other qml pages14:14
coderusphlixi: yeah, warehouse ui is buggy. you can upgrade in terminal via pkcon update14:14
phlixithats probably beyond my scope :)14:15
phlixii had the brilliant idea to check for updates of warehouse it self *g*14:15
phliximaybe its working better after the update :-)14:16
coderusphlixi: warehouse need to be updated14:17
coderusyou can close warehouse when it not responding14:17
coderusupgrade process wont be interrupted14:17
phlixithanks,14:17
phlixibut then i wont know once it is finished, right?14:17
coderusopen warehouse again and go to my account14:18
coderusthere is a queue of operations with packages14:18
coderusif its empty its finished14:18
phlixiok14:18
phlixibut it is much less bad now after the update of warehouse14:18
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cvpcoderus: but add a page is enough for it or not? if i want only the Settings page on it :)14:30
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coderuscvp: no idea14:33
coderuscvp: try yourself14:33
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coderusLandscape UI for everybody! https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/patch-allow-any-orientation-all-sailfishos-applications14:40
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cvpcoderus: no i dont want break my system again ^^14:42
coderus:D14:49
coderusyou can always send me some coffee for investigating those possibilities14:50
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grnetwe see full landscape on the next update?15:26
coderusgrnet: for phone no15:26
grnetfor phone when?15:26
coderusnobody know15:27
grnetty15:27
coderusdesigns are not ready for landscape, that sad :(15:27
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grnetmaybe crop resolution15:29
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grnetfor icons15:29
coderusit's not about icons15:31
coderusits about screen size15:31
coderusscreen resolution15:31
coderusjolla screen is too small for most of sfos2.0 ideas15:31
TMavicaNice. No need install driver for Jolla in windows 1015:33
TofeYou mean, to use it in MTP mode, the latter being designed by MS ? I do hope so...15:36
coderusTMavica: what driver?15:36
coderusyou need driver for recovery mode ;)15:36
TMavicaoh. forget. where is the driver15:37
TMavicai just tried ssh only15:37
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cvpcoderus: i will do that :D15:40
coderusssh is using some common rndis, but recovery telnet using different rndis driver (dunno why)15:41
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TMavicathanks. Just remember that15:48
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coderuscvp: btw, you can use partnerspacemanager to put jolla-settings in this place15:54
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cvpcan i install apk files over terminal ?16:17
TMavicaapkd-install16:17
cvpto see what a error message i get? because i try now three different file explorer and no one can install apk files (after i install google play services)16:17
KabouikYes cvp, using apd-install16:17
Kabouikapkd-install sorry16:18
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cvpnot working :( looks like there open something, bzt. no installer window... its close fast.16:19
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cvpInteressting.. over Play Store i can install apk, but not over Terminal/File Explorer.No Installier Windows anymore. What can be broken ?16:26
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cvpha! i fix it :D16:30
cvpohh DJI Go App is not Working on Jolla :( want install16:32
TMavicayes. known bugs16:33
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TMavicaif u install apk, try find APK installer in play store16:34
TMavicaafter download the apk, use this apps to install the apk16:34
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cvpand than will JI Go App working? becaus other apk files can be install16:35
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cvpno not working with apk installer16:36
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TMavicaapk file damaged?16:41
Tegutry redownloading it or something16:43
baumuhm, where are the contact files stored?16:44
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cvpbaum you can export it with this command: invoker --type=generic vcardconverter -e contacts.vcf16:47
cvpyou will find it in nemo folder16:47
kidin sqlite db somewhere like /home/nemo/.local/share/system/privileged/Contacts/qtcontacts-sqlite/16:48
baumsadly i don't have acess to the device anymore, all i got is a backup copy of the nemo folder16:48
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cvpTMavica: dont think so, play store self dont allow me to install the dji go app, means its not for my phone. this is why i download the apk from a other site16:55
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baumkid: exactly what i was looking for, thanks! :)16:57
Tegukid: hm, what's the difference between system/privileged/Contacts and system/Contacts?16:57
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sixtythreeI hope this is only because of beta performance on the tablet http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/344644417:03
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sixtythreeFor comparison the phone: http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/344340217:04
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