#jollamobile log for Saturday, 2015-09-19

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trulswhats up09:20
trulsmy jolla was dead when i woke up this morning. when i plugged it into a charger now it vibrates and blinks yellow once every second09:20
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HarhaanJohtajawell according to user guide:09:42
HarhaanJohtajayellow blinking : new email09:42
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HarhaanJohtajabut i guess it means also something else09:42
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japa-fiIs there a VOIP software for jolla, which has also clients for iphone and doesn't require any brain to install? (= no registration and/or account creation required or just minimal effort)  with VOIP i refer to software which enables calling via internet.09:57
japa-fi"normal" VOIP (SIP) clients are excluded because they require one to find VOIP service provider, register, configure etc.09:58
japa-fiIssue being, I have friends over seas complaining how they can call everyone else, but not me. RedPhone (android app) can't receive calls as jolla doesn't support google someting (cloud messaging?), etc etc.09:59
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trulsHarhaanJohtaja: hehe. yes, it wont turn on :)10:18
trulsi got my jolle 23rd of march 2014 and ive had a working jolla about 80% of the time since than. including sending the first back for warranty repairs (and then replacement) three times10:20
* truls gives up. which is a shame, as it has been a phone ive enjoyed when it has been working. but 80% uptime doesnt cut it these days10:21
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japa-fiwindows.. the only operating system where disk cleanup requires at least 100Megs of free disk space.10:38
chem|stYARR MATEYS!!! HAPPY INTERNATIONAL TALK LIKE A PIRATE DAY YE SCURVY SWABS!!!! RUM ALL ROUND!!!10:42
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wtwCurrently trying to restrict whatsapp from accessing all my contacts11:31
wtwwhen I disable adressbook access in settings it won't start anymore11:31
wtwso I deleted some contacts manually from the third-party addressbook11:31
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wtwbut unfortunately this breaks PBAP (bluetooth car-kit access)11:32
wtwdoes PBAP always use the third-party addessbook? if so, why? is it possible to change it?11:32
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wtwor is it possible to add only some contacts to whatsapp?11:33
wtwI also tried getting XPosed/Xprivacy for Android to work, but no luck :/11:34
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japa-fiAnyone here having google play on their jolla? Do applications relying on Google Cloud Messaging work? What does google play do to your jolla? Ruin it?11:59
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tadziknah, doesn't ruin it :)12:40
tadzikjust interrupts me every now and then with its shit12:40
tadzik'updates, updates, woo!'12:40
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pdanekDon't you guys think that Android is still far more secure OS than Sailfish?12:51
pdanekI don't speak about privacy and stuff now.12:51
pdanekPurely technical security of OS, responsivness to fix the bugs etc.12:51
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pdanekAnd I speak about stock Android like Nexus, where you get fixes as soon as they get released.12:52
coderuspdanek: sailfish was never secure os :)12:54
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coderuswait some ages for "Sailfish Secure" branch12:55
pp_basic security model of modern android is pretty ok12:55
pp_vs. user nemo and group privileged :P12:55
Siddethe security model in sailfish is pretty weak12:55
Tofepdanek: Android is 80% of the market; simply that makes it a target for malwares, far more than Sailfish. Other than that, I guess it's pretty the same (app permissions are a joke in Android, but there isn't such mechanism at all in Sailfish...)12:55
Siddeselinux and a chroot for every application would be alot better12:56
TofeIf I've understood well, Android M will give let the user revoke a permission per app and per "topic". With this feature, app permissions begin to be useful in real life.12:59
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pdanekcoderus: but with the Sailfish Secure announcement couple months ago, it's trying to be?14:26
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coderuspdanek: what is your question about?14:26
pdanekcoderus: "(1:54:55 PM) coderus: pdanek: sailfish was never secure os :)"14:33
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SkorpyHey, what's the easiest way to backup all of the android data on Jolla phone?16:10
Skorpyshould I just make a tar out of the android_data or should I use some android app?16:11
coderusSkorpy: what android data?16:11
Skorpyapp data16:11
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Skorpydon't need the apps themselves, but game saves and stuff like that16:12
coderusSkorpy: do you know where it stored?16:13
Skorpypossibly16:13
coderusbecause i dont knw where your game saving it settings :)16:14
Skorpy/data/data/ seems to have quite a lot of different app folders16:15
coderusbackup it then16:15
coderusand chown it after restoring16:15
Skorpyyea, will do just that16:16
Skorpygonna move it to an actual android phone actually16:16
grnetin a hard reset how i take my sim numbers back?16:16
grnetjust restore from backup sdcard?16:17
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