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phlixi_everytime i stumble upon this thread i think TJC is a joke, it is the second most voted item of all times, and nothing happened in nearly two years08:03
phlixi_...this one https://together.jolla.com/question/832/system-wide-clipboard-copy-paste-capability/08:03
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phlixi_ridiculous08:04
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clauis there a way to check the exact type of network in use, and some more precise signal strength? I seem to recall there was a trick in terminal, but I just don't remember it.08:43
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rigosafe harbour was struck down by the ECJ today09:19
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Lieke_+109:40
Stskeepsrigo: cool09:40
rigohttps://d2jhuj1whasmze.cloudfront.net/docs/schrems_3OHQ.pdf09:42
rigoif jolla does not have a cloud service yet (sync of calendar, contacts) do one NOW :)09:43
rigosome fancy owncloud thingy with some crypto should be sufficient09:43
the_mgtseafile would be nice, but it lacks calendar/contact sync09:46
tbrthey just dumped out of the whole fsecure cloud thing. which then got sold to americans. bybye eu data09:46
the_mgtyeah, that was a real shame09:46
tbrI think supporting open protocols is a good way forward09:46
* Stskeeps ponders ipfs09:47
tbrgives you the choice to run your own or buy service from an entity of your choice09:47
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Laxtlo_tell that your mother to buy service or do it yourself ;)10:21
Laxtlo_bit me like10:21
Laxtlo_but*10:21
tbrwell, yo momma so ... - she'd also need to sign up for google/outlook.com/yahoo/...10:22
Laxtlo_thats true and she wont survive10:23
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Mikaelaclau: could it be `dbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=net.connman / net.connman.Manager.GetServices`?10:24
tbrso in the end someone will set her up da bomb10:24
tbrand that person then can choose if they sign her up for a service, run something for her or sign her up with google/outlook.com/yahoo/...10:24
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minimecgoo pfeiffen lernen10:32
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ggabrielsooo, tablets started shipping? :)12:24
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pp_apparently, for those that ordered in the first 10 mins or so12:26
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FiXionmy jolla (now sailfish 2.0) still keeps notifying me13:45
FiXionabout some file it couldn't download.. (again and again and again..)13:45
FiXionand about another file - which "download complete"13:45
FiXionI remove all notifs.. and then those two files come again with multiple notifications13:45
FiXionany idea what files "downloads" - tried by download manager is listed? or is it in some db?13:46
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SfietKonstantinWFiXion: do you have a browser opened at some place13:46
SfietKonstantinWgo to settings and search for transfer to see transfers13:46
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FiXionbrowser says "no transfer made"13:58
SfietKonstantinWhum13:58
SfietKonstantinWmaybe email ?13:58
FiXionI had the same issue on my old jolla13:58
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FiXionhow do I check that ?13:58
FiXionno "transfers" options in that14:00
FiXionany ideas what creates notifications as "Download manager" ?14:00
FiXionso I can go find the code for it14:00
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FiXionto see what the f... it does :)14:01
FiXionand why it keeps sending notifications14:01
* FiXion tries to find some logs14:01
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FiXionhmm. for some reason developer mode does not give me a usb ethernet work interface on this kubuntu 14.0414:02
FiXionon my kubuntu box 14.04 at home - it just pops up immediately.. :(14:03
FiXionannoying..14:03
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FiXionno log hunting for now..14:09
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FiXionno one has any idea how I debug this "Download manager" issue ?14:10
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SfietKonstantinWSo14:53
SfietKonstantinWnew MS HW14:53
SfietKonstantinWliquid cooling14:53
SfietKonstantinWmeh14:53
StskeepsSfietKonstantinW: next up, run your blood through it to cool down your phone14:53
SfietKonstantinWStskeeps: next up: run your blood through it to clear your blood14:54
SfietKonstantinW(and sell information about your blood to advertizers)14:54
Stskeepsadd nanobots14:54
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Nokius_work:D14:58
Nokius_workSfietKonstantinW: blood informations exchange to bananas in freemium games14:59
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SfietKonstantinWNokius_work: yep15:00
* Nokius_work scared15:00
attah*something* shipped from HK this morning.. wonder what that might be15:00
attahanyone else seen the same?15:01
Nokius_workcu later o/ work is done for today15:01
ggabriela pot of noodles?15:01
Stskeepsattah: mail bomb?15:01
Nokius_work:D:D:D15:01
SfietKonstantinWthis continuum thing is nice15:01
SfietKonstantinWnot a new idea but I kinda like it15:01
attahStskeeps: depends on how you hooked up the lipo..15:01
Stskeepsattah: don't get me started on that15:02
Stskeeps:P15:02
attah^^,15:03
attahalthough i haven't gotten an email about it15:04
attahjust the sms from DHL15:04
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attahw000t! i reset the phone yesterday, and care told me to try once more and then send it in15:10
attahnow the reset doesn't work15:10
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Stskeepsattah: well, that's a good sign15:11
Stskeeps:P15:11
Stskeepsie for care15:11
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attahis it even possible that the menu thingy an have gotten old in the meantime?15:11
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TMavicano one working in Jolla zendesk? Still not answer me15:30
StskeepsTMavica: fairly sure people are home by now15:30
TMavicabut this is a question I write last week15:31
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zebbiz_piAnyone got a good keyboard for the jolla?15:57
zebbiz_piI hate the default one15:57
urswell, tohkbd2.15:58
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ursBut that is no longer being produced.15:58
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zebbiz_piurs: I mean a software one15:59
ursthought so. :)15:59
zebbiz_pi:)15:59
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zebbiz_piI loved the one on HTC Sense on Android 2.316:04
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zebbiz_piArrows for text navigation at the bottom, hold for special characters, go to a second view for special characters without being forced to hold and for really special chars, no space after you choose a suggested word, etc.16:06
zebbiz_piOnly thing I missed was |16:07
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SfietKonstantinWzebbiz_pi: I think you can make something like this16:13
SfietKonstantinWhonestly16:13
zebbiz_piI would if I had the time16:14
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zebbiz_piBut it would be so much simpler to download something someone else had already done16:14
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coderushm, now i need port unetbootin to tablet to write distro to usb drives easily from tablet :D16:17
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SfietKonstantinWcoderus: :D16:22
SfietKonstantinWI hope you are not serious16:22
zebbiz_piI wish I could connect usb drives to my phone16:23
coderuswhy not, tablet should support otg, and its a linux, so i can not carry my laptop every time :)16:23
ggabriel+1 coderus16:23
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SfietKonstantinWcoderus: what I want is: you connect the tablet to that new microsoft docking thingie16:24
SfietKonstantinWand wow, a KDE desktop16:24
SfietKonstantinW:D16:24
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coderusconnecting mouse and keyboard is not so fun actually, but flash drives is interesting :)16:24
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zebbiz_piOne of these http://img.dxcdn.com/productimages/sku_162930_2.jpg and the software drivers to handle the drive16:25
zebbiz_piSimple :D16:25
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chem|stzebbiz_pi: I was looking for an inote triple x-folding pro...17:22
zebbiz_pichem|st: What's that?17:23
chem|stkeyboard17:23
zebbiz_piPhysical?17:23
chem|stphysical17:23
chem|stsry I am jsut following the backlog and answer while I read, you mean the software17:23
zebbiz_piYeah17:24
chem|stwell I'd love to have a T9 & swype available...17:24
chem|stbut that is not gonna happen any time soon it seems17:24
chem|stSfietKonstantinW: we have been talking about a 'desktop' sfos a while back17:25
zebbiz_piThat's why I have to make my own17:25
zebbiz_piI would also like to have multiple dictionaries17:26
ggabrielchem|st: remember this? http://forum.swype.com/showthread.php?12545-Jolla-Sailfish/page5&s=d4ecff2f0a783999573da8a800213b6317:26
chem|stggabriel: yeah 2 years no response17:38
chem|stzebbiz_pi: multi dict at the same keyboard or just many languages?17:38
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zebbiz_pichem|st: Same keyboard, suggestions from multiple dicts17:47
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SfietKonstantinWchem|st: yeah17:48
SfietKonstantinWbut I'm not sure that SFOS can be made for desktop17:48
zebbiz_piGotta go now17:48
zebbiz_pibye17:48
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newinI don't know what you are talking about but I would love to have a desktop version of sailfishOS...18:34
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tadzikI don't see how that would make sense18:35
tadzikdesktop is hardly gesture-based18:35
newinI really love to just gesture on the OSX trackpad18:35
tadzikah18:35
newinand there is nothing like this on linux18:36
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newinI see something that looks like a beautifull and simple tiling window managing based on trackpad gesture18:37
newinit will be even better if an hardware is design with (like macbooks) so no configuration it just work =D18:39
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Nokiuscoderus: why unertbooting when u can use this https://openrepos.net/content/beidl/isodrive ?18:58
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coderusNokius: i want to write iso on usb drive, not to use my phone/tablet as usb drive :)19:18
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Nokiuscoderus: ;)19:19
Nokiusbut why caring 2 things if one is enough19:20
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phlixi_i checked the app months ago, because its a great idea, but can not use it, becuase (at lesat back then) it didnt allowed to use isos from the sd card (missing file picker...) and for some reason i do not understand it does not work with windows isos :(19:24
attahHas anyone else gotten DHL notifications that might be the tablet?19:26
* phlixi_ not :-(19:27
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attahI haven't gotten any e-mail from jolla about it, but i don't expect anything else from HK, and it fots the time frame19:27
attah*fits19:27
attahI was something like #5619:28
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coderusNokius: i dont want to connect my precious device to unknown workstations19:32
Nokiuscoderus: that's a good point!!19:33
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* friese is still waiting for his shop invite... anyone else here who ordered on the first day and didn't get it yet?19:53
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narchiewhen can i pay vat19:57
narchiemay 2016?19:57
narchieit's december soon19:57
narchiesanta claus already came by19:57
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attahcool, if i look in the shipping google doc it says "D.o. DHL notice" and one guy got his today too.. so seems it *is* the tablet20:09
attahwoohoo!20:09
narchieits just VAT notice20:14
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attahnarchie: ?20:18
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r0kk3rzsurely the vat notice would come attached to the tablet20:19
attahi (pre-)paid VAT like 2 weeks ago20:19
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M4rtinKso it really is shipping now ? :)20:21
attahseems like it20:22
r0kk3rzM4rtinK, i dont believe it either, its obviously an elaborate ruse20:22
M4rtinKall the estimated 30-50 tablets in the first wave :)20:23
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attahyeah.. that part is odd20:23
M4rtinK(based on the spreadsheet)20:23
r0kk3rzi thought the spreadsheet said 250ish20:23
r0kk3rzmaybe i read it wrong20:23
tuomasjjrasanenHmm.. which doc?20:23
attahhttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qS0DE4oOf7qPYjwUAaL-rjoPcqu6hHQRJOdspQ4_Hgc/edit#gid=020:24
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attahto me it seems to be half-ish of the 189-ones20:24
attahso that would mean 100?20:24
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tuomasjjrasanenI paid taxes 23th Sep, so I guess it could be here any time soon20:27
attahi did it on 22nd20:28
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pdanekWhat do you think of new Windows 1 Mobile phones?22:00
pdanek10*22:00
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ShadowJKIn some aspects it's where phones should've been 7 years ago22:17
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coderuspdanek: i can say anything when it will be released finally22:31
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pdanekcoderus: are you going to buy one and test it?22:37
pdanekThey have cheap models too.22:37
coderusmy mother have lumia 62522:40
coderusi'll wait when w10m will be available for it22:40
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