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corvinuxHi, Sailers08:12
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chem|sto/08:22
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citylight2how to tell which frequency I use to connect to 4G?09:48
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citylight2so is everyone happy with the 2.0 update?10:47
Yanielthe lockscreen fade in could still be much faster10:48
Yanielother than that it's been quite nice10:48
Yanielalthough I still kind of miss the cover swipe actions10:48
Yanielno that much anymore now that we have media controls on the lockscreen but still10:49
coderuscitylight2: everyone can't be happy at the same time just because they are different peoples and not a clones10:51
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r0kk3rzcitylight2: you might be able to interrogate ofono over dbus for 4g freq10:58
locusfor ofono-tests package10:59
r0kk3rzhmm, does ofono do mobile data? looking at this it seems to only do telephony stuff11:00
tbrofono manages the RIL11:01
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locusfyup11:01
locusfconnman takes care of doing networking11:01
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sziszishadow of mordor: 42G... the flying fuck?!12:08
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sziszidownloading @25MBps and there is crypto on my disk: CPUtemp 100°C12:10
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tadzik:D12:10
locusfhahahah12:10
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sziszinot funny when your laptop melting :D12:13
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Victorhi12:14
phlixithat sounds strange to me, you eather must have asuper slow cpu or a super fast ssd12:15
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phlixiactually, not a super fast ssd, as you are downlading only with 25mb/s12:16
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szisziphlixi: SSD is around ~100MBps12:16
szisziphlixi: 25 MB(!)/s12:17
phlixiyes, but thats nothing for the cpu to crypt12:17
szisziI know12:17
phlixi486?12:17
szisziaccording to the cryptsetup benchmark the max is around 500MBps encode/decode12:17
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sziszimobile i7 with 4 cores12:18
r0kk3rzsounds like you need an unencrypted partition for non-sensitive stuff12:18
phlixiif the benchmark was on your machine, cpu wshould be at 5%12:18
VictorI miseed the beginning of the conversation, but a few explanations might be:12:19
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Victoruserland vs kernel land crypto are not configured the same, therefore it can be because the algorithms you're using and/or the kernel modules for accelerating crypto with HW are not working12:19
phlixialso my experience with crypted drives is, that it does not have effects on performance12:19
szisziVictor: im not using aes12:20
Victorsziszi: what's your current setup? (maybe you described it before, but I just joined the channel)12:20
phlixicrypto (or compression) usually is multiple times faster than storage... thats the reason why mac os even compressses ram, since its faster to compress the ram and write less to ram, then write without compression12:21
Victorthat's not generally true. It highly depends on the processor, the storage and of course, the algorithms12:21
szisziif nsa approved it's a big no for me. besides: if there is a hw accerleration for it there might be a device which can decrypt/bruteforce it faster than non hwacc-ed methods12:21
VictorI see12:22
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phlixiyes, of ycourse, if you use a 486 and a super fast ssd, then your cpu gets the bottleneck... but in your case, you only download at 25mb/s12:22
Victorif your threat model includes the NSA you're going to have a fun time configuring your setup :)12:22
szisziVictor: my cpu isn't even capable to do that12:23
phlixithat would include mostly better passwords, not more cpu load for encrypting12:23
phlixi(and more "op sec")12:24
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szisziphlixi: im aware of that12:24
r0kk3rzsziszi: but you're still using an i7, ie intel12:24
sziszibut it was a bit weird for me that a simple download eat up almost all cpu12:25
phlixii was just noting that the two facts you posted (25mb/s download and 100% cpu load) have nothing to do with each other...12:25
phlixi...should have nothing to do with each other... of course, something could be broken12:25
phlixiand that is wht i was telling you, it shoild not have something to do with each other12:26
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sziszinow, with throttling is pretty good12:26
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phlixiyou can do the math, if you do a benchmark and your cpu does 500mb/s, then your download should do 5% cpu load12:27
sziszii know12:27
sziszibut it was weird12:27
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phlixiso  probably something else causes the cpu load...12:29
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schmittlauchOhai13:45
schmittlauchI can't connect to my phone via usb networking in developer mode (I want to SSH to it over USB)13:46
schmittlauchAre there any services I have to start?13:47
tbryou have to enable developer mode and put the device in the appropriate USB mode13:47
tbrif your device is in MTP mode by default, then it won't work13:47
schmittlauchtbr This is what I've done. Nevertheless it doesn't work.13:48
tbrbe more specific13:48
tbr"doesn't work" is useless13:48
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schmittlauchUSB -> developer mode selected in po-up. Nevertheless it doesn't show up on my laptop in `ip link`13:49
tbrand your dmesg says what? (pastebin!)13:49
schmittlauchI know that it used to work a while ago13:50
schmittlauchdmesg of laptop or phone?13:50
tbrlaptop13:50
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schmittlauchtbr: https://gist.github.com/schmittlauch/8990d4004b6ca453dda713:51
schmittlauchI guess that I may have ruined something on the phone13:52
tbrif that is the complete dmesg, then the laptop doesn't detect a network interface. Are you running a custom kernel or a standard distro kernel?13:53
schmittlauchcustom kernel, but I should have everything necessary for usb networking13:54
tbr[Sun Oct 25 13:54:48 2015] rndis_host 8-2:1.0 usb0: register 'rndis_host' at usb-0000:00:1d.7-2, RNDIS device, 8e:4b:d8:d3:2b:fe13:55
tbrthat's what I get13:55
tbrmy bets are your kernel is missing something13:55
schmittlauchcould be possible, too. Or for some reason the jolla doesn't create an interface?13:56
schmittlauchI'll check my kernel config, thanks13:56
tbryou can ofc run that ip command on the jolla side too in fingerterm13:56
tbralso you could just connect it over wifi to your sdk13:57
the_mgtdoes ssh work via wifi?13:57
the_mgtalso, rndis driver is something i'd check13:58
tbryes, enabling developer mode opens SSH on _all_ interfaces13:58
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schmittlauchdo I need USB modem support in my kernel?14:01
coderusRNDIS14:02
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schmittlauchOK, RNDIS wasn't enabled. Something else I need?14:06
Yanielusbnet14:06
YanielI guess that's the RNDIS module14:07
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schmittlauchCompiling... let's see whether that helps14:15
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Yanielumm... do the lockscreen media controls act strange for anyone else?14:27
Yanielthey are not visible on glance screen14:27
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Yanieland when I doubletap the screen they immediately appear, then disappear and fade in normally after a while14:27
Stskeepsglance is vestigal code atm14:28
Stskeepsso it may not be tested with it14:28
YanielI mean the blinking14:29
Yanielthat is clearly not intended behaviour14:29
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coderusYaniel: no blinks for me14:30
coderuscan't reproduce14:30
coderusah, see14:30
coderusi see*14:30
coderusfill bug to tc and prey :)14:31
coderustjc*14:31
Yanielprey on sailors14:31
coderusyeah14:31
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r0kk3rzYaniel: yeah ive noticed that as well14:35
r0kk3rzdoesnt happen every time14:35
r0kk3rzbut sometimes14:35
r0kk3rzsame with clock14:36
coderushappens every time if you doubletap when glance is active14:37
Yaniel...and the doubletap is not ignored completely14:37
coderusimho doubletapping when glannce is active ideally should not produce any animation and instantly show ockscreen14:37
coderusl*14:37
Yanielit could well fade in IMHO14:37
coderusno14:38
Yanielbut it should be considered active immediately14:38
coderusitems already shown14:38
coderusglance is just alternate state of same objects14:38
coderusdo not need to hide objects, then fade them back with changed state14:38
Yanielyeah, glance as lockscreen minux bg image14:38
Yanieland dimmed colors14:38
Yanielit could just fade in the bg and fade object colors from ambience color to white14:39
Yanielwhile instantly enabling input14:39
r0kk3rzmaybe thats what it is, sometimes i dont double tap and use the button instead14:39
coderuswell yes thats acceptable solution :)14:39
Yanieljust a short fade, mind you (maybe 0.5s)14:39
Yanielthis might warrant a separate issue14:41
Yanielhttps://together.jolla.com/question/116671/bug-saimaa-lock-screen-media-controls-flashing/14:41
YanielI'll write up my design vision for the glance screen/lockscreen later14:42
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coderushope it will be fixed is silafishos 3.0 :)14:45
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schmittlauchI must've forgotten some kernel module for USB networking :/15:00
schmittlauchThe problem seems to be my laptop's kernel, as the ndis0 network interface on Jolla is up15:01
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schmittlauchApparently ndis and usbnet weren't enough to make USB networking work15:30
fennekkirndis had its own module didn't it15:32
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schmittlauchrndis is compiled as a module15:34
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Yanielhttps://together.jolla.com/question/116685/suggested-glancelockscreen-behaviour/16:18
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Yanieloh, the new clock app cover is nice19:32
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Yanielwith alarms and time left on timers shown19:33
Yanielon the clock face19:33
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MoritzJTI wish those were shown on the lockscreen too!19:34
MoritzJTI wouldn't regard that as a privacy issue. Mostly strangers won't even guess what they mean :P19:35
Yanielindeed19:35
Yanielwell, even if they did, a time interval without context is hardly an issue19:35
MoritzJTContext could've been gained prior to this. *paranoid* :P19:35
Yanielanyway it could be *configurable*19:35
Yanielso if it really is an issue you can simply not show them19:35
MoritzJTWhat do you folks think of the newly introduced orientation lock toggle?19:36
MoritzJTYeah that is the best way to go ofc. Choice.19:36
MoritzJTBut I'd rather have it there than not.19:36
Yanielwhat do you mean orientation lock19:36
Yanielwell that is you19:36
MoritzJTIndeed, that's me ;-) Well I mean the orientation lock toggle you can add to the events screen top19:37
MoritzJTGo to settings > events > choose switches / links / favourites > orientation lock19:38
Yanieldon't care19:38
YanielI have orientation on auto and when I really want to keep it (basically never for a long time) I just hold my finger on the screen while rotating19:38
MoritzJTHmm that's a good way if you don't have a lot of acceleration around you19:39
MoritzJTHave you unlocked your orientation states to free rotation?19:40
YanielI haven't applied any patches if that is what you mean19:41
Tegusometimes it's just easier to lock it even though the holding approach exists as well19:41
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MoritzJTExactly. Now there's an annoying issue with that.19:43
MoritzJTI put it up on TJC. It locks orientation states and their reverse state in free rotation.19:43
MoritzJTWhile on the phone this is disabled by default, on the tablet I think free rotation is enabled by default19:43
MoritzJTThe orientation lock does not lock an orientation, it locks two!19:44
MoritzJThttps://together.jolla.com/question/58556/feature-request-orientation-lock-as-quick-toggle-option/?answer=116698#post-id-11669819:44
MoritzJTI hope it gets a fix19:44
MoritzJTand Alien Dalvik follows the orientation settings again.19:44
Yanielehh19:44
MoritzJTIt used to prior to 2.0.0.1019:44
Yanielthat's a bug IMHO19:44
MoritzJTI agree.19:44
Teguon phone it appears to lock it to one19:45
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MoritzJTI wanted the choice to have free rotation on the phone19:45
MoritzJTnot by default but by choice19:45
MoritzJTand a supported one please19:45
MoritzJTThis is again another patch because Jolla decided for us it'd be better not to have it on the phone19:45
MoritzJTBecause stupid people screw things up and talk into their speakers in reverse portrait19:46
Tegutoo bad you cannot choose which orientation it is on phone19:46
MoritzJTI'd say let the stupid stay silent and don't protect them19:46
MoritzJTbut again that's jjust me19:46
locusfglacier allows all rotations19:47
Tegudo you use it?19:47
locusfI made it but it sucks so bad that I don't use it :p19:47
Lieke_haha19:48
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Tegu:P19:48
locusfi mean the homescreen19:49
locusfglacier components are brilliant19:49
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MoritzJTI haven't checked out glacier in a loooong time!19:52
MoritzJTHas there been a lot of progress?19:52
locusfnot since spring :p19:56
locusfasteroidos forks glacier for smartwatches19:56
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MoritzJTI will try to take a peek next week19:58
MoritzJTis there a good way to demo the components?19:58
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locusftheres the gallery20:00
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MoritzJTThanks, will give it a shot!20:05
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MoritzJTBye folks20:05
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txtptc_My jolla shutdown during backup creation, with flashing red led20:11
txtptc_Then no life whatsoever, except if I flick the battery out when it's in the charger, then a yellow led for a few seconds20:11
txtptc_Is the bootloader on the flash memory too? This phone didn't complete btrfs balance in 4 days either so maybe it's broken20:15
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txtptc_The fuck it just magically became a QHSUSB_DLOAD20:31
txtptc_device20:32
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txtptc_: | now it vibrates when I remove the battery20:44
txtptc_or maybe it was my fingers and a change in my rooms humidity20:45
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txtptc_"Qualcomm USB modem converter now attached to ttyUSB020:47
txtptc_Like, could I possibly dump the flash from here?20:47
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txtptc_Also holding power button powers it off from whatever state that QHSUSB_DLOAD state is21:07
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coderustxtptc_: contact Care is the only idea21:45
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txtptc_yea, did already. I just wonder if I have any chance of getting some of my data back21:59
txtptc_Good feature, blowing up during backup creation ,_,21:59
txtptc_Oh well21:59
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r0kk3rztxtptc_: if you cant boot recovery, then getting data back sounds unlikely22:00
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txtptc_yeah ,_,22:13
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