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txtptc_ | So the images for custom ambiences are zoomed ~177% | 01:20 |
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txtptc_ | Even if they would fit without cropping yaay :D | 01:22 |
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chriadam | Devaux1: depends on what you mean. There are two parts to it: 1) the account settings (`devel-su pkcon install libaccounts-glib-tools` and then `ag-tool list-accounts` and `ag-tool list-settings ACCOUNTID`), 2) the sync profile settings (~/.cache/msyncd/sync/carddav.Contacts-ACCOUNTID.xml) | 01:56 |
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AL13N | eugenio: i have quite the problem with the 2nd time 2.0.0.10 | 07:01 |
AL13N | the OS identifies itself as 1.1.9.30 | 07:02 |
AL13N | so i assume the update didn't work well | 07:02 |
AL13N | but | 07:02 |
AL13N | now when i try downloading it, it says that i can't say how big the update is, and i let it try to download the whole night, but it's still busy downloading... | 07:02 |
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the_mgt | AL13N: to the command line, batman! | 07:11 |
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AL13N | the_mgt: any ideas on how to update? | 07:31 |
AL13N | would something like "pkcon update" work? | 07:31 |
AL13N | or maybe i need to remove the downloaded cached update or something? | 07:32 |
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Mikaela | I think it's some ssu magic | 07:33 |
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kimmoli | AL13N: what does this say: ssu s | 07:36 |
kimmoli | do you see any errors in /var/log/systemupdate.log ? | 07:36 |
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gexc-phone | just noticed a faint yellow dot on the top left corner of the screen | 07:55 |
gexc-phone | is the screen dying :-/ | 07:56 |
AL13N | kimmoli: sales domain, and reported as 2.0.0.10 | 08:04 |
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AL13N | kimmoli: Mikaela: this does not look good: http://pastebin.com/5ZRgkcrS | 08:11 |
AL13N | the update seems to be done in a second | 08:11 |
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kimmoli | everythin there says it is up to date? | 08:12 |
AL13N | it seems to not actually do any install | 08:13 |
AL13N | "Unit maliit-server.service entered failed state." | 08:14 |
AL13N | donno if that's related | 08:14 |
kimmoli | nah that is normal | 08:14 |
AL13N | ok then | 08:14 |
kimmoli | new version "2.0.0.10" current version "2.0.0.10" | 08:14 |
AL13N | but the whole update log is basically shutting down, and then starting up again | 08:14 |
AL13N | this must have been the second try i did | 08:14 |
AL13N | the earlier one took longer | 08:14 |
kimmoli | cat /etc/os-release | 08:14 |
AL13N | that still says 1.1.9.30 | 08:15 |
kimmoli | cat /home/nemo/.cache/store-client/os-info | 08:15 |
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AL13N | i figure that due to ENOSPACE (not actually of of space, but no free btrfs blocks | 08:15 |
AL13N | made it update only partially | 08:15 |
AL13N | codeName=Saimaa | 08:16 |
AL13N | 2.0.0.10 | 08:16 |
AL13N | i figure the update was done, but some or all rpms failed | 08:16 |
AL13N | any pkcon to continue the update? | 08:16 |
kimmoli | what does "downloaded=" say there? | 08:17 |
AL13N | downloadSize=0 | 08:18 |
AL13N | downloaded=false | 08:18 |
AL13N | been trying to download the whole night | 08:18 |
kimmoli | delete /home/nemo/.cache/store-client/os-info -file, reboot, and try once more | 08:18 |
AL13N | it says something like "i cannot find the update size" | 08:18 |
AL13N | k | 08:18 |
kimmoli | or if it fails still, maybe last resort version --dup | 08:19 |
AL13N | version --dup ? | 08:20 |
kimmoli | search tjc for various threads about that | 08:20 |
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AL13N | kimmoli: when i go there, it says 1.1.9.30 | 08:24 |
AL13N | then i do check for update | 08:24 |
AL13N | and i get the 2.0.0.10 | 08:24 |
AL13N | and then it says preparing update | 08:24 |
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AL13N | and the message "problem with store: can not find downloaded size" | 08:25 |
AL13N | if i would continue from this, it would just endlessly download | 08:25 |
kimmoli | y | 08:25 |
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AL13N | i wonder what it is, because, network works and internet too | 08:26 |
kimmoli | then ssu s ? if 2.0.0.10 then version --dup | 08:26 |
AL13N | this will restore my version to 1.1.9.30? and hopefully not destroy everything? | 08:27 |
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AL13N | kimmoli: is it this: https://together.jolla.com/question/116139/20010-upgrade-failed-wlan-networking-broken-11930/ ? | 08:28 |
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kimmoli | the first answer there looks promising | 08:30 |
kimmoli | (the one starting with DISCLAIMER) | 08:30 |
AL13N | heh | 08:31 |
AL13N | yeah | 08:31 |
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AL13N | btw: i should disable mer-tools before update, right? | 08:31 |
AL13N | since that's what i've seen in the update log | 08:31 |
kimmoli | should not be issue, just disable all openrepos | 08:31 |
kimmoli | version --dup does not disable | 08:31 |
AL13N | i mean in the system update log, i saw it disable mer-tools and store | 08:34 |
AL13N | before actually trying update | 08:34 |
AL13N | i have no openrepos or otherwise | 08:34 |
AL13N | i did lose "less" it seems | 08:34 |
kimmoli | ah, if it disables it, then disable it too | 08:34 |
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AL13N | hmm, pkcon refresh has error: | 08:35 |
AL13N | Fatal error: Authentication failed (is SSU set up correctly?) | 08:35 |
AL13N | odd | 08:35 |
kimmoli | have you tried to remove your jolla account, and re-add it? | 08:35 |
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AL13N | http://pastebin.com/mgvk3bix | 08:36 |
AL13N | kimmoli: no, i didn't | 08:36 |
AL13N | odd that i could get the update and i have no store issues itself | 08:37 |
AL13N | maybe i shouldn't do pkcon refresh as devel-su | 08:37 |
kimmoli | pkcon refresh as devel-su should not say auth error | 08:37 |
AL13N | grr | 08:39 |
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AL13N | kimmoli: is it normal that i have twice "customer-jolla" repos | 08:43 |
kimmoli | dunno | 08:43 |
AL13N | i'm trying to set release to 1.1.9.30 | 08:46 |
AL13N | as "version" shows | 08:46 |
AL13N | removing store-info file and reboot | 08:47 |
AL13N | if this fails, i'll try version --dup | 08:47 |
AL13N | ssu set release xxx i mean | 08:47 |
AL13N | didn't work | 08:48 |
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Devaux1 | Managed to sync Cal/CardDAV from Owncloud with Sailfish 2 \o/ | 08:49 |
Devaux1 | There are nor special folders needed while setup | 08:49 |
entil | Devaux1: without issues? I have mismatching contacts | 08:49 |
Devaux1 | entil: I had to export and import my whole list :D | 08:49 |
entil | into files or something? | 08:50 |
Devaux1 | First I was thinking that it doesn't work | 08:50 |
Devaux1 | Because I didn't have any contact synced | 08:50 |
Devaux1 | But then I made a new contact in a new contact list | 08:50 |
Devaux1 | And this synced | 08:50 |
xfade_ | AL13N: ssu release 1.1.9.30; ssu domain sales; ssu ur; version --dup | 08:50 |
entil | a new contact list? what's that? | 08:50 |
entil | a group? | 08:50 |
Devaux1 | entil: In Owncloud you can make different lists | 08:50 |
Devaux1 | Not groups | 08:50 |
Devaux1 | On the bottom-settings | 08:51 |
entil | I deleted one on owncloud, still visible on the phone, and have one on the phone that's not visible in owncloud, so there may be even more discrepancies | 08:51 |
Devaux1 | Oh :( | 08:51 |
entil | Devaux1: another address book you mean? | 08:51 |
Devaux1 | entil: Right | 08:51 |
chriadam | entil: did you edit the owncloud contact on your phone after you downsynced it, but before you deleted it from the server? | 08:51 |
AL13N | xfade_: tried that | 08:52 |
AL13N | still have ssu auth failed | 08:52 |
AL13N | which is odd, because i can see the store stuff | 08:52 |
xfade_ | AL13N: can you paste the output for: ssu lr | 08:52 |
entil | chriadam: no, this is an old number I stored because someone didn't have her phone on, so something I didn't remember I even had, haven't touched it in seven years or so | 08:52 |
AL13N | http://pastebin.com/mgvk3bix | 08:52 |
AL13N | refresh seems to fail | 08:53 |
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xfade_ | AL13N: try to delete your jolla account from accounts and then add the account again.. | 08:53 |
AL13N | :-( | 08:53 |
chriadam | entil: hrm. sounds like a bug. if you create an issue on either TJC or on git.merproject.org/mer-core/buteo-sync-plugin-carddav I can try to investigate. | 08:53 |
xfade_ | Let's see if it is a token refresh which didn't go ok. | 08:54 |
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Devaux1 | But now I am still searching for the account-config-files of buteo | 08:54 |
chriadam | Devaux1: I recently fixed a bug in the addressbook-set parsing code in our carddav plugin, which might cause issues in come cases. 2.0.2.x has a bunch of carddav fixes in general. | 08:54 |
Devaux1 | Because figuring out sync-problems in Jolla is pita | 08:54 |
entil | chriadam: I guess you're the guy I've been chatting with on tjc, https://together.jolla.com/question/116918/caldavcarddav-in-saimaa-20010/ | 08:54 |
chriadam | Devaux1: the account config is stored in the accounts. `devel-su -p pkcon install libaccounts-glib-tools` and then `ag-tool list-accounts` and `ag-tool list-settings` etc | 08:54 |
chriadam | entil: most likely ;-) | 08:55 |
entil | chriadam: sorry about the misunderstanding wrt how caldav is suposed to work :D | 08:55 |
chriadam | entil: not your fault | 08:55 |
Devaux1 | chriadam: Great! Thanks :) | 08:55 |
chriadam | Devaux1: the actual files are under ~/.config/libaccounts-glib | 08:55 |
entil | chriadam: fwiw now I push my calendar events to owncloud by default and am fine with it, it was just confusing to believe that it's the same personal calendar.. | 08:55 |
chriadam | but ag-tool is the simplest way to inspect it | 08:55 |
entil | aaaanyway, yeah, I really dunno what to do about the missing contact thing; certainly this age-old temp number that I deleted on owncloud was not a favorite | 08:56 |
Devaux1 | chriadam: .db - that's why I never was able to find the file :) | 08:56 |
chriadam | entil: we should offer a UI option to say "synchronize to separate local calendar" vs "synchronize with existing local calendar" in the accounts UI. but, that's a feature for a future day. | 08:56 |
chriadam | Devaux1: yeah, sqlite3 | 08:56 |
entil | a point of trivia: some of these numbers date back to my nokia 2110, which didn't have first and last names for contacts, so I edit some of the names on owncloud from time to time and sync on the phone, this seems to work | 08:58 |
entil | chriadam: I'd love that, that's exactly what I'd expect :) | 08:58 |
chriadam | entil: yeah. it's on the TODO list, but not a high priority item for us at the moment, unfortunately. LOOOTS of things need doing ;-) | 08:59 |
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AL13N | xfade_: ssu set release 1.1.9.30 does not show "ssu s" as 1.1.9.30; it's still 2.0.0.10 | 08:59 |
entil | chriadam: what's the best way to dump all my contacts off the phone, so I might compare them to what I got on owncloud? | 08:59 |
Devaux1 | chriadam: Would be great if you could edit the whole options in the UI after finishing the setup | 09:00 |
AL13N | xfade_: pkcon refresh still gives auth failed | 09:00 |
AL13N | even though account was removed and added again | 09:00 |
entil | applications -> contacts offers me import | 09:00 |
AL13N | xfade_: any other ideas? | 09:00 |
chriadam | entil: that's a trickier question than you might expect. we have data segregation, so each online sync account has a separate contact in the db; we then have an "aggregate" contact which picks data from all of those, for display in the People app. | 09:01 |
chriadam | entil: but the basic / local data: `devel-su -p vcardconverter -e > vcards.vcf` should work | 09:01 |
AL13N | xfade_: i'll have to go soon | 09:01 |
AL13N | do you have any other ideas? | 09:01 |
chriadam | (well, `devel-su -p vcardconverter` should tell you how ot use it properly, I might have made a mistake) | 09:01 |
xfade_ | AL13N: ssu release 1.1.9.30 (not set) | 09:02 |
AL13N | ah | 09:02 |
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xfade_ | you can check ssu lr to see if the repo setup changed | 09:02 |
AL13N | pkcon refresh gives error at percentage 44% | 09:03 |
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AL13N | that should be repository #5 from 9 | 09:04 |
entil | chriadam: no bonus | 09:04 |
entil | chriadam: lemme ssh into the phone for copypaste | 09:04 |
AL13N | which is "customer-jolla" | 09:04 |
AL13N | xfade_: is it normal that "customer-jolla" is listed twice? | 09:04 |
entil | chriadam: [W] ContactsEngine::ContactsEngine:845 - The 'mergePresenceChanges' option has not been configured - presence changes will only be reported via ContactManagerEngine::contactsPresenceChanged() | 09:05 |
entil | and it exports 0 contacts | 09:05 |
entil | this is regardless of whether or not I use devel-su | 09:05 |
lainwir3d | o/ | 09:05 |
AL13N | gtg, please continue to give ideas, i'll scroll back later | 09:05 |
chriadam | entil: try: `devel-su -p contacts-tool` | 09:05 |
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entil | chriadam: reading skills calling, I forgot the -p :D | 09:06 |
entil | [D] main:167 - Wrote 572 contacts | 09:06 |
entil | I have only 314 on my owncloud | 09:07 |
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chriadam | entil: it may not send pre-existing contacts to the cloud on first sync | 09:08 |
chriadam | I will investigate that | 09:08 |
entil | chriadam: I did not have any on owncloud, it was a clean setup | 09:08 |
chriadam | hrm. | 09:09 |
chriadam | are they all unique? | 09:09 |
chriadam | or are some of them linked into others? | 09:09 |
entil | now I'm scared of cleaning things up on owncloud, because what if it syncs removals to my phone and I'm screwed :D I guess I could maybe re-import the recent vcf from a minute ago but argh | 09:09 |
entil | I really can't say.. statistically I might have someone twice, or same names from when the n900 pulled in Skype contacts | 09:09 |
entil | but probably not like hundreds of them | 09:09 |
chriadam | hmm. it sounds more likely to have been a failed upsync, if it has "missed" hundreds. | 09:11 |
entil | chriadam: I did this: grep ^N vcards.vcf | sort | wc -l | 09:11 |
entil | and then compared to sort -u | 09:11 |
entil | 653 to 572 | 09:11 |
entil | sure that's only the N field | 09:11 |
entil | for ^TEL it's 673 to 662 uniques | 09:12 |
Tegu | why did you sort them btw? (well okay I guess you had a look at the data at first and just replaced the last command, duh.) | 09:13 |
entil | sort and sort -u | 09:13 |
Tegu | ah, sort -u is different | 09:13 |
entil | I sorted them initially to make it faster to type in the -u than | unique :D | 09:13 |
entil | the kind of little trick that takes 1024 times as many keystrokes to explain than do :D | 09:13 |
chriadam | some contacts won't have N if they don't have structured name data, only FN. Interestingly, I fixed a bug related to that recently (will be released in 2.0.2.x) | 09:14 |
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entil | oh yeah, that's the stuff from the 2110 days, and having carried the contacts through from phone to phone - my contacts list looks kinda shitty in places :D | 09:15 |
entil | for like literally 20 years | 09:15 |
chriadam | ;-) | 09:15 |
chriadam | without seeing the data myself, I think there are two front-runners for causes of your issue: | 09:15 |
chriadam | 1) our plugin didn't handle this "no N field" case properly | 09:16 |
entil | 1) is worth investigating maybe, but the thing here is that the delta between ^TEL and ^N is not that big, so I probably have a ton of them with N intact | 09:16 |
chriadam | 2) the large number of upsyncs might have widened a window for a conneciton error, and perhaps the recovery made a mistake | 09:16 |
entil | nothing adds up to only 314 in owncloud for 1) anyway imo afaict | 09:17 |
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entil | the phone didn't complain about a failed sync, but I'd actually love it if it gave more info on when and how and what it's syncing | 09:17 |
chriadam | yes, that's another known issue which we definitely need to fix in our UI | 09:17 |
entil | and have huuuuuuuge infos for things like "hey! your piece-of-crap owncloud closed the connection on me!" | 09:18 |
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entil | so umm is it safe for me to delete the address book from owncloud and push again? there's probably a uuid or somesuch identifier, so that the phone goes "he removed the address book" instead of "he deleted all his contacts, got to remove them here as well"? | 09:19 |
entil | iirc I never defined or created a remote Contacts list to sync carddav to, which probably lead to my confusion about calendars as well | 09:21 |
chriadam | entil: if you're worried, delete your CardDAV account from the device. then do whatever you need to do, server side, and then re-add the account. | 09:22 |
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chriadam | to answer your question directly: deleting things server-side should not delete local data if the data is owned by (i.e., was originally from) the device. BUT | 09:22 |
chriadam | the carddav plugin has bugs, obviously. It's still considered "experimental" so be aware of that I guess. | 09:23 |
entil | deleting this one contact certainly did not delete it from the phone BUT that's what I want to happen sometimes :D | 09:23 |
entil | but ok, so.. I should know that edits work both ways but deletions only from the phone to owncloud? | 09:23 |
chriadam | not quite | 09:23 |
entil | that's the behavior I'm seeing, disregarding that it's not completely ok currently | 09:24 |
entil | wrt missing contacts that is | 09:24 |
chriadam | deletions work from "original source to synced source", and only the bits of data from the original source will be deleted at te hsynced source. | 09:24 |
entil | that explains why I didn't lose the one contact | 09:24 |
chriadam | e.g., contact X on server has fields ABC. you then sync, so it appears on phone. on phone, you add field D, and that gets synced both ways. You then delete X from server, afte rthe sync the contact on the phone will only have D. | 09:25 |
entil | I never did anything like that, only edit N and FN type fields | 09:25 |
chriadam | on the server? that should result in changes being pushed to the original name, since name details happen to be "unique" per contact | 09:26 |
entil | yeah, sure, that's what I love about the whole thing, I can edit my 1995 shit conveniently on a web ui and it Just Works on the phone | 09:27 |
entil | this is a bit of a broken record (vinyl lp, not vcard) but the only thing that really threw me off were 1) not deleting from the phone after deleting from synced server (you said it's a feature now) and 2) not having everything synced (probably a timeout that wasn't reported) | 09:28 |
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entil | now I'm going to grab a cup of coffee and return in a while to dismantle the owncloud account on my phone, copy the vcards.vcf backup file to my computer and recreate the remote contacts address book on owncloud | 09:29 |
chriadam | good luck ;-) | 09:29 |
chriadam | I will be heading home shortly, if you have any questions or whatever, ping me and I will respond tomorrow, or send me an email :-) | 09:30 |
entil | "chiadam goddamnit it all turned to shit noooooo" | 09:30 |
entil | :D | 09:30 |
entil | hopefully all will be wrapped up so that I can answer and close that tjc issue | 09:30 |
chriadam | ;-) | 09:30 |
chriadam | gnight! | 09:30 |
entil | and if there would be an option for "allow removal of owned contacts when removed from synced server" I'd be ok with that too | 09:30 |
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entil | laters | 09:31 |
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AL13N | can anyone give me an "ssu lr" and tell me if "customer-jolla" is listed twice? | 09:40 |
ggabriel | AL13N: ran as nemo, I can see it only once | 09:41 |
flux | I have it zero times.. :) but I'm not yet at the latest version. | 09:41 |
AL13N | ggabriel: in user or global repositories? | 09:42 |
AL13N | when i disable that repos, the pkcon refresh works well | 09:42 |
AL13N | i'm gonna try upgrading without it | 09:43 |
AL13N | damnit, it didn't work | 09:46 |
AL13N | i'm gonna have to try version --dup | 09:46 |
ggabriel | AL13N: global | 09:46 |
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AL13N | version --dup actually is downloading now since i disabled that one | 09:49 |
AL13N | we'll see how things go | 09:49 |
AL13N | ggabriel: thx for the help | 09:49 |
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AL13N | upgrading... | 09:51 |
entil | chriadam|away: ain't this grand, there's no contacts showing up online.. hope it's just slow and not failing somehow | 09:51 |
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AL13N | looks like it finished this time | 09:56 |
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AL13N | i hope i don't lose something essential by disabling customer-jolla | 09:56 |
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AL13N | oh shit | 10:00 |
AL13N | pkcon refresh now has: segfault | 10:00 |
AL13N | :-( | 10:00 |
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AL13N | ok, this time no segfault | 10:02 |
AL13N | might 've been just some cache | 10:02 |
AL13N | ok, so now, i'm on 1.1.9.30 but... how to upgrade to 2.0.0.10? | 10:04 |
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till | just check for updates again? | 10:06 |
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AL13N | till: of course :-) | 10:22 |
AL13N | ggabriel: till: xfade_: kimmoli: https://together.jolla.com/question/120017/cant-update-to-20010-fatal-error-authentication-failed-is-ssu-set-up-correctly/ <--- i listed what i tried | 10:23 |
AL13N | if you might know someone that might know something please alert him/her to this thread :-) | 10:23 |
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ggabriel | unrelated comment, which somebody else already made: the cover of the clock application is really cool | 10:31 |
ggabriel | let's see how long it takes for ios/android to copy it | 10:32 |
xfade_ | AL13N: Can you check if you have the file /usr/share/ssu/features.d/customer-jolla.ini ? | 10:36 |
AL13N | k | 10:37 |
AL13N | xfade_: yes, i do, and it says 1.1.9.30 | 10:38 |
AL13N | er | 10:39 |
AL13N | i mean | 10:39 |
AL13N | version = 0.0.3.1 | 10:39 |
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AL13N | any idea how i can remove it from user, without it being gone from global? | 10:40 |
AL13N | xfade_: http://pastebin.com/k8Mm6Uj0 | 10:41 |
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AL13N | could i move away that file to somewhere else, then do "ssu rr customer-jolla" and then move it back again and reboot? | 10:49 |
AL13N | xfade_: ? | 10:49 |
xfade_ | AL13N: No, you actually need that repo as it contains all the changed graphical assets etc. | 10:49 |
AL13N | or is that dangerous? | 10:50 |
AL13N | i know | 10:50 |
xfade_ | AL13N: Trying to figure out why it asks for auth for you though | 10:50 |
AL13N | but if the one in user is overriding credential tokens? | 10:50 |
xfade_ | Should not matter | 10:50 |
AL13N | it's the only thing i can think of that would make it need more auth | 10:51 |
AL13N | after all, all the other global ones also require auth tokens, right? | 10:51 |
AL13N | is there, some kind of caching for auth but repo-specific? | 10:52 |
xfade_ | I think it is your repos.ini, where it probably doesn't tell that customer-jolla also needs auth | 10:52 |
AL13N | ok | 10:53 |
AL13N | i'll look for it | 10:53 |
xfade_ | AL13N: you can try to disable that repo and reinstall feature-jolla, ssu-vendor-data-jolla | 10:54 |
xfade_ | then restart ssud or reboot and see | 10:55 |
AL13N | xfade_: http://pastebin.com/emmCst6Q | 10:56 |
AL13N | i didn't see anything about customer-jolla in there | 10:56 |
AL13N | xfade_: isn't that what happend earlier when i did dr on customer-jolla and did version --dup ? | 10:56 |
xfade_ | mine doesn't either, so probably not it | 10:56 |
AL13N | k | 10:56 |
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AL13N | pkcon install feature-jolla ssu-vendor-data-jolla | 10:58 |
AL13N | Command failed: This tool could not find any available package: could not find feature-jolla | 10:58 |
AL13N | xfade_: actually, is customer-jolla something that's not identical for all users? | 10:59 |
AL13N | maybe something got disabled on server end? | 10:59 |
xfade_ | AL13N: I would know if it was ;) | 10:59 |
xfade_ | feature-jolla is in the 'jolla' repo, so you need to refresh that | 11:00 |
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AL13N | k | 11:03 |
AL13N | xfade_: thx for the help btw | 11:04 |
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AL13N | hmm | 11:05 |
AL13N | refresh ok | 11:05 |
AL13N | pkcon search name feature-jolla: ok | 11:05 |
AL13N | but pkcon install feature-jolla: not ok | 11:06 |
AL13N | ??? | 11:06 |
AL13N | xfade_: how strange? i must be doing something wrong | 11:06 |
AL13N | maybe i should download and rpm -Uvh --oldpackage or something | 11:07 |
xfade_ | AL13N: First try to just download ssu-vendor-data-jolla, this should be the important one | 11:08 |
AL13N | k | 11:09 |
AL13N | ok, that did something | 11:10 |
AL13N | ok, so enable it again and try pkcon refresh? | 11:10 |
xfade_ | first restart ssud or reboot | 11:10 |
AL13N | k | 11:11 |
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AL13N | hmm, as i expected | 11:15 |
AL13N | it failed once more | 11:16 |
AL13N | xfade_: :-S | 11:17 |
AL13N | xfade_: i'll have to go soon :-( (for the whole weekend, perhaps you can put more suggestions on the tjc thread? | 11:17 |
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xfade_ | AL13N: Yeah, I'll try to think about what needs to be done. | 11:20 |
phlixi | hi | 11:26 |
phlixi | i got an sms, which only consits of one or two emoticons | 11:27 |
phlixi | how do i find out what it was? the jolla just displays two unknown characters | 11:28 |
pp_ | hmn, raw sms database lookup -> magic -> victory | 11:29 |
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tbr | or just copy paste? | 11:31 |
phlixi | thats sounds much simpler | 11:32 |
TemeV | I think installing Emoji keyboard also makes them visible | 11:32 |
phlixi | strangely i can paste it to a note, but the "send to jolla" plugin in firefox seems not to work (has a get clip board function) | 11:33 |
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phlixi | nevermind, does not work with other text as well | 11:34 |
Helle | nigghht | 11:34 |
phlixi | according to thunderbird its two thumbs up, thats good :-) | 11:35 |
Helle | oops | 11:36 |
phlixi | and the "send to jolla" browser plugin also works.. | 11:39 |
phlixi | ...i (i do not know why) just expected to content to land in the textinput fiel, but i copied the content directly to the clipboard | 11:40 |
phlixi | the content* | 11:40 |
phlixi | ...that tool is realy useful all the time :-) | 11:40 |
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AL13N | xfade_: thx, i'll try and use the jolla to read tjc on the weekend (if i get any reception at all...) | 12:06 |
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tbr | so, out of curiosity I set out to see if I could put any substance into my theory of a possible supply chain problem with the 32GB eMMC part | 12:18 |
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tbr | The eMMC in the 64GB models is known, closest guess currently: KLMCG8GEND (64GB) for which there is a corresponding KLMBG4GEND (32GB) part | 12:19 |
tbr | So I started looking around the large part distributors. Seems you can get them only as full reel, which is about 1120 parts. | 12:19 |
tbr | So far I've only located one distributor for the KLMCG8GEND, which has about 2-3 reels in stock. I have yet to find a distributor with stock of the 32GB part. | 12:20 |
tbr | This doesn't need to mean anything. | 12:20 |
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tbr | generally lead times for larger quantities can be pretty substantial though, e.g. 10 weeks | 12:21 |
ggabriel | tbr: interesting, so one possibility is that they have to manufacture it | 12:21 |
ggabriel | which would be a pain | 12:21 |
tbr | it's a samsung part | 12:22 |
ggabriel | :& | 12:22 |
tbr | I don't expect samsung to care much about a customer wanting one reel (I doubt more than 1120 people ordered a 32GB model) | 12:22 |
ggabriel | you could get the 32gb people upgrade to 64gb too, assuming there's enough stock | 12:22 |
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pp_ | if you've promised first-come-first-serve and then some of the first-come can't be shipped | 12:23 |
tbr | or they could criple the 64GB emmc artificially | 12:23 |
pp_ | (or produced) | 12:23 |
ggabriel | crippling sounds bad but in the grand scheme of things it would mean that a) jolla puts up with the cost; b) they keep things fair by not giving a 64gb upgrade for free | 12:24 |
ggabriel | so it isn't a bad idea really | 12:24 |
kimmoli | ** | 12:24 |
ggabriel | i'm assuming that 2nd/3rd wave are waiting on this 32gb issue too | 12:25 |
tbr | this is all guessing | 12:25 |
ggabriel | it'd be a shame to have tablets waiting for the queue to go fairly | 12:25 |
ggabriel | yeah | 12:25 |
tbr | but there is at least some smell to it as there are at least 5 first wave 32GB units that never shipped. and I'm not aware of any 32GB units that shipped | 12:25 |
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tbr | ggabriel: btw, sourcing the 32GB parts might have a higher total cost than using 64GB parts. Especially if you need parts fast, price can easily double | 12:34 |
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ggabriel | tbr: fair point re cost | 12:37 |
tbr | even worse would be a discontinuation of the part, because then you'd very likely looking at a PCB-respin to change to a footprint of an available part | 12:41 |
tbr | although in this case that's unlikely | 12:41 |
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ggabriel | so, it'd be so much easier to own the freaking factory, assuming you can make all the parts :P | 12:44 |
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Stskeeps | nobody knows how to make a whole mobile phone. | 12:52 |
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TemeV | tbr: do you know if eMMCs have some standard footprint like old SLC NAND chips used to have? | 13:02 |
TemeV | because if they do, it should be easy to change to some other vendor | 13:02 |
TemeV | some testing required of course | 13:03 |
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tbr | TemeV: no idea, would need to get the datasheets and start comparing | 13:07 |
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tbr | the electronic side seems to be JEDEC, not sure about the footprint | 13:11 |
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tbr | Look at that: https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+6P+Teardown/51660#s112922 | 13:17 |
tbr | and according to spec of the nexus 6P, it will/has versions of 32/64/128GB | 13:17 |
tbr | I wonder if that could possibly have aaaaaany impact on part availability... | 13:17 |
Stskeeps | time to pillage some nexus 6p's | 13:18 |
ggabriel | i said it before and i'll say it again: google must die and we'll all be happier | 13:18 |
TemeV | tbr: well, I was trying to avoid doing that comparison by asking :) | 13:18 |
tadzik | it'll probably be replaced by another giant | 13:18 |
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tbr | the fruit company would just become even more dominant | 13:19 |
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tadzik | well, the devices is one thing, the influence in most of the web itself is another | 13:21 |
* kimmoli wonders length of intel emmc interface errata. with freescale it used to be loooong | 13:22 | |
tbr | btw: did anyone open their tablet? Would be nice to confirm that I got the eMMC right. I only have "MCG8GC" from dmesg, which had the closest match in the above mentioned part | 13:23 |
kimmoli | TemeV: _old_ SLC? | 13:24 |
Stskeeps | tbr: i'd confirm but i have a older revision.. | 13:24 |
kimmoli | tbr: not received my referral race tablet yet | 13:25 |
tbr | k | 13:25 |
Stskeeps | tbr: it doesn't sound wrong | 13:25 |
TemeV | kimmoli: am I mixing technologies now... Well, you know those TSOP packaged NAND chips that "nobody" uses anymore | 13:31 |
TemeV | (yes, I know they are still widely used in industrial stuff etc) | 13:31 |
kimmoli | me != nobody | 13:31 |
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kimmoli | at least seems Micron has emmc parts in various packages, 14x18mm LFBGA-100, 11.5x13mm VFBGA-153 (which afaiu is same as the samsung part discussied above) and LFBGA-169 in 14x18mm | 13:40 |
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suomi-on-paras | Hello, guys, do you know, can Jolla Phone works with micro usb keyboard, like this one: | 15:59 |
suomi-on-paras | aliexpress.com/item/New-Micro-USB-Keyboard-Case-For-Jolla-unlike-Case-High-Quality-PU-Leather-Flip-Stand-Universal/32462573301.html?isOrigTitle=true | 15:59 |
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lainwir3d | suomi-on-paras: no | 16:03 |
lainwir3d | Jolla tablet can | 16:03 |
lainwir3d | But Jolla phone lacks usb on-the-go support | 16:03 |
lainwir3d | It could be theorically possible if you plug a powered hub in between, but be prepared to get your hands dirty | 16:03 |
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suomi-on-paras | lainwir3d: so, this is hardware problem or not? | 16:06 |
tbr | lainwir3d: hands dirty is a must. this was discussed before | 16:10 |
tbr | you'd need to rip apart the otg state machine in the kernel and hardwire things and pray to the FSM that nothing is somehow hard baked into silicon | 16:11 |
tbr | I hear bluetooth keyboards work much better | 16:12 |
lainwir3d | suomi-on-paras: yes, definitly hardware. | 16:12 |
lainwir3d | tbr: those, or tohkbd :P | 16:12 |
tbr | well tohkbd is out of stock. you can diy it though. | 16:13 |
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suomi-on-paras | lainwir3d:but tohkbd is out of stock | 16:16 |
suomi-on-paras | :c | 16:16 |
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cehteh | out of stock or discontinued? | 16:17 |
ggabriel | it won't be made any more | 16:18 |
tbr | there are parts available to be purchased for people who want to DIY. some assembly and 3D printing required | 16:18 |
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suomi-on-paras | I have no opportunity to do this | 16:19 |
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ggabriel | you can try to buy second hand | 16:20 |
suomi-on-paras | maybe you know any alternative The Other Half keyboards? | 16:20 |
ggabriel | but that depends on people selling it | 16:20 |
ggabriel | bluetooth keyboards? | 16:20 |
suomi-on-paras | nonono | 16:20 |
ggabriel | it depends what you're looking for really | 16:20 |
cehteh | i have an idea about a touch senitive e-ink display in form of a flipcase .. fold on back and you have a secondary display for notification etc .. fold open, then you can emulate a keyboard on it .. or close the thing then the displays are protected .. .*but* i am not a hardware engineer :/ | 16:21 |
suomi-on-paras | I want something in n900 style c: | 16:21 |
cehteh | unlikely to happen | 16:21 |
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cehteh | tohkbd was a bit on the expensive side anyway | 16:21 |
ggabriel | i can't speak on behalf of the guy who did it | 16:21 |
ggabriel | but judging by the amount of times he said "no", i agree with cehteh | 16:21 |
ggabriel | expensive but awesome | 16:22 |
ggabriel | :) | 16:22 |
suomi-on-paras | yes it was | 16:22 |
suomi-on-paras | oh | 16:22 |
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suomi-on-paras | It`s time to searching TOHKBD! | 16:22 |
suomi-on-paras | oh | 16:25 |
suomi-on-paras | the second problem is that i`m serbian | 16:25 |
suomi-on-paras | and i want cyrillic keyboard :^( | 16:25 |
suomi-on-paras | sry for my bad english | 16:25 |
cehteh | could be fixed with my e-ink idea :) | 16:25 |
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suomi-on-paras | but I want awesome hardware keyboard! | 16:27 |
suomi-on-paras | like on my wonderful n900 | 16:27 |
tbr | suomi-on-paras: you can replace the keypad carefully and buy the replacement with cyrilic characters from the tohkbd site, I guess | 16:29 |
tbr | if there still are cyrilic pads | 16:29 |
cehteh | yes thats a bit of a problem, but with touch sensitive i am thinking about a resitive touch layer on top of a eink display and some 'rubbery' film on top, you know these thicker, softer screen-protectors? | 16:29 |
lainwir3d | N900 keyboard was top of the notch | 16:29 |
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Jope | I liked the N950 kbd more | 16:31 |
Jope | four rows | 16:31 |
tbr | N950 <3 | 16:31 |
Jope | I tried the n950 some time ago | 16:31 |
Jope | a bit too obsolete.. :-D | 16:31 |
Jope | if my only use for a smartphone was irc, then I could consider it.. | 16:31 |
Jope | but I need a usable browser too at least :-D | 16:31 |
tbr | yes irc was fun on it | 16:32 |
Jope | I have an n900 too, also way too obsolete :-) | 16:32 |
cehteh | my n900 comiited suicide | 16:32 |
cehteh | vibration alarm while it was plugged in usb .. jumped from the table, usb broke off | 16:33 |
SfietKonstantinW | cehteh: it tried to hang itself | 16:33 |
SfietKonstantinW | the rope broke | 16:33 |
SfietKonstantinW | so sad :( | 16:34 |
cehteh | anyway the n900 lacked a bit processing power and much ram | 16:34 |
suomi-on-paras | yep | 16:34 |
cehteh | if it had 1GB ram i would still use it, if not broken | 16:35 |
suomi-on-paras | and it is reason that I bought my Jolla Phone c: | 16:35 |
ggabriel | last week I discovered that browsers are useless without physical keyboard | 16:35 |
ggabriel | just saying | 16:35 |
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ggabriel | I could go through a registration process ina mobile friendly website while fanbois and such couldn't | 16:35 |
ggabriel | which was quite pleasing | 16:35 |
ggabriel | except that the fanbois were my friends | 16:35 |
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* cehteh still waiting for the jolla to be shipped | 16:36 | |
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cehteh | i will prolly look for some reasonable good bluetooth keyboard which i can clip on the flipcase | 16:37 |
cehteh | i have a cheap one here, will be good enough for testing, but i'd like some better one | 16:37 |
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sakustar | suomi-on-paras: try #jollatohkbd for instructions where you can order the printed parts | 17:06 |
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suomi-on-paras | thks, but I`m not an engineer | 17:15 |
suomi-on-paras | I think, assembling is too hard for me, lol | 17:16 |
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tbr | damn, that BB Priv is a nice pice of kit. The price tag is hefty though | 18:16 |
Stskeeps | tbr: it's getting totally murdered in reviews, i've not seen anything like that | 18:20 |
Stskeeps | as in, such murder | 18:21 |
tbr | http://www.androidcentral.com/blackberry-priv-review - looks positive-ish | 18:21 |
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r0kk3rz | you do kinda wonder if its going to be BBs last hoorah | 18:29 |
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Stskeeps | i can recommend reading 'losing the signal' about BB at least | 18:30 |
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tbr | oh, yeah BB itself is deeply troubled | 18:32 |
tbr | no doubt about that | 18:32 |
tbr | still a nice device | 18:32 |
r0kk3rz | i hope it goes well for them, might check it out if i see one in a shop somewhere | 18:35 |
r0kk3rz | interesting, they ported bb-hub to android, wonder if someone might liberate it for sideloading on other phones | 18:38 |
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Markkyboy | evening | 19:47 |
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Fusl | where do i report system crashes to? (https://scr.meo.ws/paste/2015-11-06-23-40-57-F4zpIkfM.txt) | 22:41 |
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Fusl | great | 22:43 |
Fusl | the crash broke android support again -.- | 22:43 |
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Fusl | and it now things that my phone is charging and a charger is connected | 22:46 |
Fusl | but there is no charger connected to it | 22:47 |
SQUelcher | Free Energy! | 22:47 |
Fusl | this probably means i will have to restore my phone from a backup again the 9th time this week | 22:47 |
Fusl | premium. | 22:47 |
raa700_ | wth are you doing with it? | 22:51 |
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Fusl | I'm using it | 22:53 |
Fusl | as a normal phone | 22:53 |
Fusl | with it's included android support i installed aptoide | 22:53 |
Fusl | and skype | 22:53 |
Fusl | and some other apps people would normally use | 22:53 |
Fusl | after some hours of using it, it starts acting strange | 22:53 |
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M-bobsummerwill | BB will be out of the handset game very soon, I'm sure. | 23:38 |
M-bobsummerwill | It's too little, too late. | 23:38 |
M-bobsummerwill | And that Passport is the ugliest phone I have ever seen. Every time I'm in phone shops I ask what is selling and what isn't. They can never shift Windows Phones, or they get returned. Some people want BB still (old school momentum, I think), but never the Passport. | 23:39 |
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