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TemeVMy problem with store issue is back :/06:43
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TemeV"Rebuild app registry" with utilities helped for a while or then it was just coincidence the problem didn't occur06:45
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aleksisis the SDK for SailfishOS 2.0 available somewhere?09:34
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Nicd-https://sailfishos.org/develop/sdk-overview/09:40
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cehtehisnt there some simple makefile+crosscompiler way :D09:46
Stskeepsthere's multiple ways to shoot yourself in the foot09:47
lainwir3dhehe09:47
Stskeepslainwir3d: tablet still working?09:47
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lainwir3dStskeeps: yes, perfectly. I quite quite a share of "Device is getting too hot" though.09:47
Stskeepswell, that's intel for you.. :p09:48
Stskeepswhat cases?09:48
lainwir3dI think the lastucase is not helping too :P09:48
lainwir3dWhile playing android games09:48
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tbrinb4 the soc desoldering itself from the pcb09:48
lainwir3dwhen it's hot the latsucase glue is starting to stop gluing too09:49
Stskeepsdesigned for finnish winter09:49
aleksisNicd-: the latest available SDK there is 1510 http://releases.sailfishos.org/sdk/installers/09:49
lainwir3dbut it's better once it cools down09:49
lainwir3dhehe :D09:49
lainwir3dapart from that, yeah it's working quite well09:49
aleksisis that the "2.0" SDK?09:49
lainwir3dOne thing that would be nice, is change the boston.qmap like they did for th tohkbd09:49
lainwir3dbecause usb keyboards are also impacted09:50
Nicd-aleksis: the latest is the 2.0 sdk09:50
lainwir3d(no alt+gr)09:50
TemeV15 is the releasse year and 10 is the month of the sdk09:50
aleksisok, thanks for clearing up that for me09:52
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coderuslainwir3d: tablet have different boston.qmap? copying it from tohkbd package not working?10:42
lainwir3dcoderus: probably it does. Haven't tried yet.10:42
lainwir3dBut it would be nice to have it by default10:43
coderusi dont know what the jolla policy about boston.qmap10:56
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MoritzJTHey, anyone using alien dalvik here?13:01
MoritzJTI'm experiencing this bug since 1.9.x that when I start video playback and use the back button, the sound will keep playing until I exit the app or go back to the player and stop it.13:02
MoritzJTCan someone confirm?13:02
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lainwir3dI wish ytplayer for the tablet will come soon :-(13:20
eugenioI wish the tablet would come soon :/13:22
ggabrielhehe, yeah13:22
cehtehi wish the phone would come soon13:22
ggabrielnah, phone is already there13:23
MoritzJTI wish 2035 would come soon13:23
cehteh*but* .. my order changed from "Paied" to "in Picking" today13:23
MoritzJTsweet, so not entirely far away now13:24
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lainwir3dSorry. Always seems to forget that I'm one of the few to have it :P13:26
ggabriel"seems to forget"13:26
ggabrielshow off13:26
ggabriel;)13:26
ggabriellainwir3d: did you get a >=2A charger for it, out of curiosity?13:27
lainwir3dggabriel: yes13:27
lainwir3dhaha13:27
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ggabrielkk, was curious as to whether it was practical to charge it with a 1A one13:27
lainwir3dhmmm13:28
MoritzJTwe'll see comparisons shortly then? :P13:28
lainwir3dhonestly I don't see much of a difference13:28
ggabrieloh, so you tried?13:28
lainwir3d'cause i plug it at night13:28
MoritzJTI still have my playbook 2A charger13:28
MoritzJTlol13:28
lainwir3dI will try to measure a full charge with both charger13:28
ggabrielcharging at night is my idea too13:28
MoritzJTthen use the 1A one13:28
MoritzJTit's better for the cells, right?13:29
ggabriel"the" :)13:29
lainwir3dbut honestly the 2A charger is weird13:29
ggabrielshould be the same really13:29
MoritzJTas well as not go over 80%13:29
lainwir3dI don't think it works that well13:29
ggabriellainwir3d: then don't use it :P13:29
lainwir3dBecause if it did, playing an android games while having low battery should not be a problem13:29
ggabrielMoritzJT: nah, you can charge 100% so long as you use the charge13:30
ggabrielthat 80% thing is for storing13:30
lainwir3dfor the moment, even with the 2A charger, it's not charging, just barely maintaining battery level13:30
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MoritzJThmm maybe it switches cpu governor on low charge?13:30
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MoritzJToh so charge to 100% overnight ia fine?13:31
lainwir3dI don't know. Something is weird though. I don't know if it's the charger or the tablet hardware or tablet software13:31
ggabrielMoritzJT: been doing that all my life...13:31
lainwir3dBut I find the charge quite slow13:31
lainwir3dBut I do know that it can be quite dependant on software, so I'll see until the next big update to complain ;-)13:32
MoritzJTdoes rotation allow all degreea of freedom?13:33
MoritzJTscreen orientation I mean13:33
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MoritzJTfor homescreen13:33
lainwir3dyes13:34
MoritzJTamd when you use the lock toggle?13:34
lainwir3dDon't know13:34
lainwir3dWhere is that ?13:34
lainwir3dnever used13:34
MoritzJTwill it lock properly or still allow opposite orientation?13:34
MoritzJTsettings events toggles13:35
lainwir3dfound. It allows oposite orientation13:35
lainwir3dopposite*13:35
MoritzJTfuck13:35
MoritzJTsorry13:35
MoritzJTi hate that bug13:35
lainwir3dwhy ?13:35
MoritzJTneeds fixing for next release13:35
lainwir3dnot sure that is a bug or feature13:35
MoritzJTbecause it's no lock13:35
MoritzJTread my post here sec13:35
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MoritzJThttps://together.jolla.com/question/58556/feature-request-orientation-lock-as-quick-toggle-option/?sort=votes&page=1#11669813:36
MoritzJTit cam be declared a feature upon providing choice13:36
lainwir3dtrue13:37
lainwir3dbut all options should be presented13:37
MoritzJTyes13:37
lainwir3dor someone is bound to complain the other way ;-)13:38
MoritzJTvut right now it is a bug by the very definition of the word lock13:38
lainwir3dbut I see your point13:38
MoritzJTit's like a cell door that operates in both ways hhaha13:38
MoritzJToh you locked away that brute? too bad13:38
MoritzJTneed I make it an explicit bug report?13:41
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greenithi, is it possible to add a specific phone service provider to a list of "in-country" provider so that I don't have enable roaming?16:13
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ln-let me guess: no.16:20
ggabrielgreenit: out of curiosity, how do you disable roaming for calls?16:20
ln-(i'm not aware of such feature on any other phone either, but haven't investigated)16:20
ggabriel(assuming that phone service provider is for calls ofc)16:21
greenitggabriel, well, calls still work, but internet doesn't work without roaming ;)16:22
ggabrieli'm struggling to understand your use case16:22
ggabrielyou want to switch cellular network to one that doesn't charge for roaming?16:22
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greenitggabriel, no, in my country there are about 4 big phone service providers and 6 small ones. the small ones don't have an own network, but are lodged into the 4 big networks. With the (andoid) phones i buy in my country it works most of the time so that the network is recognized as "yep, you are in your country". however, my jolla doesn't recognize it this way16:25
greenitaccording to a friend it's possible to add a network to a list so that it isn't recognized as roaming anymore in a rooted android device. that's why i wanted to know if it is possible with my jolla too16:26
phlixifrom my understanding of gsm i expect this to be a "sim card thing", which networks to log in etc. and i know only a setting for "roaming yes/no" but no advanced stuff like to allow special carriers from other country codes16:27
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phlixithis means, if you have something on an android phone to configure such thing, it might work in the jolla as well... you will have to try maybe :-)16:28
ggabrielok, i don't know the detail, but sounds like something you should report to jolla? especially if it works with other phones... unless they hacked gsm somewhat in your country16:28
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cehtehgreenit: sometimes you have to configure/fix the APN for your network16:35
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merlin1991There is a together topic about providers16:37
greenitmerlin1991, can you point me to the thread please? either i didn't search for the right words, or it doesn't show up...16:41
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merlin1991Search for 3g gprs settings (cant copy paste here :/)16:43
phlixivote for copy & paste: https://together.jolla.com/question/832/system-wide-clipboard-copy-paste-capability/16:44
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phlixias expected, that is a feature of the SIM. however, there is an app for android, that pushes the switches for you when roaming: http://android.insadco.com/roaming_control16:50
phlixii doubt this app will work on jolla, but thats just a guess16:50
phlixiin theory there is not much to do in order to implement such app for sailfish. check the mcc/mnc and set setting accordingly...16:51
phlixiby the way, that mentioned app is made from an austrian company, i guess they where "inspired" to make this app by own usage for the austrian MVNOs16:56
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greenitphlixi, thanks for the link17:08
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