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PaulePanterIs it expected to have errors in the output of `dmesg`?07:22
PaulePanter[ 1212.680451] mdp4_dsi_cmd_off: Error, SET_CLK_OFF by force07:22
PaulePanter[ 1212.680512] mdp4_mixer_blend_setup: Error: no bg_pipe at mixer=007:22
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tbr[nemo@Jolla ~]$ dmesg|grep -i error|wc -l07:33
tbr1907:33
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Bysmyyrhmm, my IIMKilleri got crazy, killing everything all the time07:49
BysmyyrOOM*07:49
tiwakealright, time to do some research07:49
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Bysmyyrthe phone is also jamming time to time07:51
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TemeVBysmyyr: restarting homescreen helps for me when OOM killer starts it's killing spree07:54
BysmyyrI have restarted my phone already :P07:54
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TemeVoh, then there is something wrong07:55
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Bysmyyrnow doing backup, but it is not killed anything in past 10 minutes... lets see whats happens...07:55
tbroh, stskeeps left jolla. well, the show is over, was nice jolla.07:56
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yestoalloh no08:00
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yestoalljust saw his tweet... thats hell of a bad news08:03
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pp__well, got the t-shirt08:07
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pp__and the phone08:07
pp__and maybe the tablet08:07
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sakustarlink twiit?08:09
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Nicd-what08:13
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tiwakewill sailfishOS work on the nexus 5x?08:14
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tbrtiwake: if you port it08:15
Stskeepzoi, don't take me doing anything as anything besides me pursuing careless things :P08:15
tiwaketbr: what does that involve?08:15
tiwake(lol)08:15
Stskeepzwill probably be doing some work with jolla, but i also have other ideas than conquering the world with mobile phones ;)08:15
tbrtiwake: getting a 32bit android build working for starters, as there is no 64bit sailfishos on ARM08:16
ln-such as conquering the world with tablets08:16
Stskeepzor tablets08:16
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tiwakeah, its a 64bit processor08:19
tiwakeinteresting08:19
tbrnot just that, it's also a 64bit build08:19
tiwakeand there isnt a 64bit ARM build of SailfishOS?08:19
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tbrthere are quite a few phones using the snapdragon 410, but shipping 32bit userspace08:20
tiwakewhy would that matter?08:20
sharpneliPerformance reasons. 64bit arm exposes bunch of more registers as an example. And they are not as heavily OoO cores like X86's are.08:20
tbrbecause in case of those it's much easier to put together an AOSP or CM 32bit build, which is a prerequisite for a libhybris environment08:20
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tiwakeI mean, I would think "putting sailfishOS on it" would erase anything that has anything to do with android on it08:21
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sharpneliWat Stskeeps left Jolla?08:22
sharpneliOk show's over.08:22
Stskeepssharpneli: becoming an entrepreneur08:22
Stskeepssharpneli: will still support sailfishos with effort/contract work, but trying my own directions08:23
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tiwakeStskeeps: it does keep things more interesting, going and doing your own thing08:23
yestoallguys, dies anyone know a solution to the sdk installation issue (lockup) when installing on a ubuntumac w/ closed source broadcom wlan driver?08:24
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Bysmyyrhmm, memorykiller killed my backup creation08:44
SceltStskeeps: good luck!08:45
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sharpneliStskeeps: Good luck for your future. Still it's just sad from viewpoint of Jolla.08:49
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pp__heh, https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nowsecure.android.vts finds stuff in alien dalvik09:32
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Nicd-what kind of stuff?09:35
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pp__"zipbug 9950697", cve-2015-1528, 2015-1538-2 etc.09:38
pp__(not that the impact should be that big, it's not like the thing parses incoming mms's using android code)09:39
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coderuswho cares about android exploits in aliendalvik09:45
coderusif it running in jail09:45
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Stskeepsfile stuff like that to security@?09:53
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Nicd-it would be nice if security@jolla.com replied to reporters, even if to just say WONTFIX :P09:54
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coderusStskeeps: \o/10:07
coderusnew opportunities?10:07
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coderusriding your own bike over the world? :)10:08
coderustired to sail that boat? :D10:08
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SfietKonstantinWcoderus: bike boat :)10:11
PaulePanterHi. What SSH key types does Sailfish OS support? `ssh-keygen --help` is not available.10:14
PaulePanterIs ed25519 supported?10:14
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PaulePanterHow can I format the timestamps in the output of `dmesg` to the actual UTC time?10:17
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cehtehPaulePanter: date -d @timestamp10:36
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Nicd-PaulePanter: ed25519 is not supported. I would use RSA10:45
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PaulePantercehteh: Ah, thank you.10:45
PaulePanterNicd-: Understood. Then it’s the long key. ;-)10:45
Nicd-2048 should be enough10:45
coderusPaulePanter: sshd -T ?10:46
coderussshd -T | grep "\(ciphers\|macs\|kex\)"10:49
Stskeepscoderus: TBA10:50
coderusStskeeps: sure :)10:50
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ggabrielwoop woop, no more slush15 promotion in shop.jolla.com11:23
ggabrielbut price went down nonetheless11:23
stephgggabriel: what are they now?11:23
mornfallhm, shop.jolla.com, that still exists? :P11:23
ggabriel199eur11:24
* ggabriel wonders whether to buy a 3rd one just in case my tohkbd survives my 2nd one :P11:24
mornfallhm, they still say tablet pre-orders will ship in december11:25
giucamare you collecting jollas? :P11:25
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SfietKonstantinW:(11:25
ggabrielgiucam: broke screen on my 1st one and it will die eventually11:25
SfietKonstantinWI wanted to slush promo11:25
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SfietKonstantinWguess I missed it ...11:25
ggabrielmornfall: source?11:25
mornfallggabriel: shop.jolla.com11:25
mornfallprobably outdated11:25
ggabrieloh, preorders11:25
ggabrielsorry, didn't read properly11:26
ggabrieli don't know what's going on wrt tablet aside from delays11:26
mornfallmore delays11:26
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PaulePantercoderus: Thank you. http://paste.debian.net/333286/ doesn’t contain that information though.11:49
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coderusPaulePanter: https://gist.github.com/CODeRUS/b38c6b9b3f365d04641f11:58
coderuswhat release you running?11:59
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dr_gogeta86giucam, i've seen that12:01
dr_gogeta86https://git.merproject.org/giucam/lipstick/commit/a0440ea56b90acf905fb167bc548c91afa2f622412:01
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SailbigHello, do the new price €199.00 still?12:02
Ingvixso it says12:03
coderusdr_gogeta86: looks like some refactor12:04
entilplz buy them so jolla can afford to send out the next batch of tablets12:05
entil:P12:05
coderusdr_gogeta86: ah no, it just preparation for this one: https://git.merproject.org/giucam/lipstick/commit/30f59c0171150b8f1e0f9bd92ae0dac629adb2ec12:05
ggabrielSailbig: used to be 169 eur last week, now it went to normal price 199 eur, which used to be 269 eur before the slush promotion12:05
giucamcoderus: no, that one was abandoned12:07
dr_gogeta86giucam, like the rest ?12:07
dr_gogeta86I hope no12:07
giucamdr_gogeta86: no, a0440ea56b90acf905fb167bc548c91afa2f6224 is waiting for approval12:08
giucamthere's a PR open for it12:08
dr_gogeta86i've seen videocapture in wayland is done via DRI but in a hybris environment ?12:09
giucamuh?12:09
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dr_gogeta86giucam, http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/wayland-devel/2013-August/010708.html12:10
dr_gogeta86from this http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTQ0Mzc12:11
giucamdr_gogeta86: that's a weston patch12:11
giucamit's one way of doing recording12:11
giucambut we don't have libva12:11
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dr_gogeta86we have gst-omx12:17
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Sailbigok thx guys12:44
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trigpointanyone know why the browser is lowercasing urls?13:24
ggabrielyou mean like firefox for desktop?13:25
ggabrielaren't url's case insensitive anyway?13:25
ggabrielshouldn't be, even... or at least the host name bit13:25
Tomourls should be considered case-sensitive in all applications13:26
trigpointthe jolla browser, have a fliker url13:26
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ggabrieli'll rephrase: the URI is case sensitive, the rest goes by dns rules, so case insensitive13:27
Tomosince if you are serving static content via HTTP from a UNIX-based system, the file structure hence the URLs are case-sensitive13:27
trigpointhttps://flic.kr/p/AbQkoQ13:27
ggabrieltrigpoint: I don't know what you mean by fliker13:27
trigpointworked when copied from here13:28
ggabrieltrigpoint: I've just typed that and it worke dok13:29
Tomoggabriel: but if you lowercase that it does not work13:29
Tomosince the hash is case-sensitive13:29
ggabrielTomo: yes, that's why I rephrased. URI=sensitive13:29
Tomoyeah :)13:29
ggabrielI actually remembered that I work with applications that are sensitive in the uri too (needlessly, but hey)13:30
ggabrielgood point re unix file systems though, for static content13:30
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CazouHey, I'm not sure what 'console=' argument I should give the kernel to log its boot process on the screen14:34
CazouI remember seeing that somewhere14:35
Stskeeps.. what device?14:35
CazouJolla phone14:35
Stskeepsdoubt framebuffer works, sorry14:37
CazouStskeeps: ho :( Could it ever work ? Or is it a SoC problem ?14:40
Stskeepssoc problem/kernel14:40
Cazouok, anyway to get it by other means ? serial on the usb port ? network on the usb port ?14:41
Stskeepsno14:42
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Ingvixcan you get to lockscreen without putting the screen off?14:55
ggabrielIngvix: in 1.1.9/2.0? no15:01
ggabriel(from a user perspective at least, maybe it's possible in a hacky way)15:01
Ingvixok15:01
Ingvixkinda funny15:01
ggabrielwell, it's different, yes15:02
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Nokius_workoh, the internet found Stskeeps tweet from the morning15:12
Nokius_work:D15:12
ggabriellink?15:12
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Nicd-ggabriel: https://twitter.com/stskeeps/status/66647049888956416015:16
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ggabrielta15:17
Nicd-maybe this is the more relevant tweet: https://twitter.com/stskeeps/status/66646436437603123215:17
ggabrieloh, NOW that I log in twitter I see that pic of me celebrating something in london hackspace, happy days15:18
Nokius_workggabriel: the usually accounts are now active ;)15:19
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PaulePantercoderus: I am running VERSION="2.0.0.10 (Saimaa) (armv7hl)".17:22
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PaulePantercoderus: I got the phone over a year ago.17:22
PaulePanterCan `[ 9439.775002] mdp4_mixer_blend_setup: Error: no bg_pipe at mixer=0` be related to the non-working inputs with the touchscreen?17:24
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Stskeepsnot related17:24
PaulePanterStskeeps: Is that a known problem by now? I have to restart my phone when the I am unable to enter the anything or swipe.17:25
StskeepsPaulePanter: it sounds like something related to your proximity sensor17:25
PaulePanterStskeeps: My recent tests with the USB cable show though that unplugging and replugging the cable several times times seems to help too.17:25
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PaulePanterStskeeps: Hmm. How do I check if it’s enabled?17:26
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StskeepsPaulePanter: you can possibly enable mce debugging17:27
PaulePanterStskeeps: Ok, I’ll try to find out how to do it.17:28
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PaulePanter/usr/sbin/mce --systemd is shown in `ps aux` output.17:29
Stskeepsnod17:29
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spiiroinPaulePanter: do "mcetool --set-input-policy-mode=disabled" -> then mce never blocks touch input from reaching ui -> if it still does not work, then the problem is at ui side, wrong window has input focus or something17:34
spiiroinPaulePanter: and flip it back to normal "mcetool --set-input-policy-mode=enabled" when done with debugging17:36
PaulePanterspiiroin: Thank you!17:38
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PaulePanterI’ll try that and report back.17:38
PaulePanter# LANG=C pkcon install mce-tools17:41
PaulePanterCommand failed: This tool could not find any available package: could not find mce-tools17:41
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cehtehon the n900 i hacked something on the dbus stuff to lock the screen when some app (from a list of apps) was started, so one could secure any critical app.  is there such an thing for the jolla already?17:54
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SfietKonstantinWhttp://reviewjolla.blogspot.fr/2015/10/news-sailfish-india-launch-set-to-2016.html = Cool :)18:18
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NokiusSfietKonstantinW: indeed :D21:03
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NokiusSfietKonstantinW: did u saw this --> http://www.digitoday.fi/data/2015/11/12/jollalta-kaksi-uutista--vilauttaa-videolla-julkaisematonta-sailfish-puhelinta/201514931/66 :D21:27
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HarhaanJohtajahttp://i.imgur.com/hPsyYyG.gif21:32
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Ingvix"look at this this, oh wait I wasn't suppose to show this yet"21:37
Ingvixthis and that21:37
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Aciidjollalta kaksi uutta anteeksipyyntöä22:24
Aciidvilauttaa viestintäpäällikkö salavideolla22:24
Aciidkatso kuvat!22:24
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M4rtinKso many umlauts :)22:26
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