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tiwakeStskeeps: poke?06:50
Stskeepstiwake: zzzzz06:50
tiwakeStskeeps: trying to figure out what folder to dump music and contacts on my sailfishOS multirom install06:51
tiwakeany idea? lol06:51
tiwakeI have it mounted from TWRP06:51
tiwakeI'm not finding anything useful on the internets06:52
tiwakemaybe my google-fu is just broken06:53
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Stskeepstiwake: /data/.stowaways/sailfishos07:06
tiwakeStskeeps: oOo... hidden folder... where should that stuff go then?07:07
tiwakehome/nemo/Music then?07:07
Stskeepsi guess07:13
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rubdosCongratulations with the new money!09:50
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pdanekWouldn't Firefox OS browser be the best option to port into Sailfish?17:45
pdanekto get decent browser17:46
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tbrpdanek: the browser is already gecko based17:53
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pdanektbr: how does that matter?18:23
pdanekdozens of browsers are webkit based and it doesn't make them equal :)18:24
ggabrielpdanek: mobile browsers in general struggle to render certain sites, especially those that are not "mobile optimised". if the underlying engine is the same, chances are that they will all struggle with the same sites18:25
tbrit does make their website rendering comparable, duh.18:25
ggabriel...and tbr explained that in 1/4 effort :P18:25
phlixi_pdanek: tbr could have said, jolla already ported firefox to sailfish... in fact you can see if you are offline or similar, error msg says "nighly could not load..."18:25
pdanekoh18:26
tbrpdanek: but yeah, you're cordially invited to do a full port of the Firefox mobile UI to Qt/QML. good luck.18:26
pdanekI see18:26
pdanekdoes FF sync have some open API to make it work in Jolla browser?18:27
phlixi_on the other hand, stock browser on sailfish could need some love :-) it is very basic (yeah, ggabriel look at other platforms, they have sync, etc built in, sailshs stock browser does the bare minimum)18:27
tbryes, the API and things are documented18:27
tbrboth for the old and the new sync protocol18:28
tbrphlixi_: good news, it's open source, send patches!18:28
pdanekso Sailfish browser could have FF sync in the future, correct?18:28
ggabrielphlixi_: ?18:28
tbrpdanek: if someone bothers, yes.18:29
phlixi_ggabriel: yestrerday you denied that pother platforms are ahead...18:29
ggabrielphlixi_: yesterday I tried to show you that what you define as "ahead" may mean something different to others, that's all18:29
ggabrielbrowser use cases are complex, at a minimum18:29
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coderuspdanek: yes if someone implement it18:52
coderusprobably just need couple of js helpers and you're done18:53
pdanekcoderus: uuuuuuuuuuu19:00
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pdanekIs Jolla hiring again?20:59
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pdanekAs they lost a lot of people, I guess they're aiming to get another 40-50 people with the new funding?21:00
spider-mariowill they be the same, btw?21:02
coderussame of course :)21:02
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spider-mario:)21:03
coderusi guess sw squad will be restored from last month backup21:03
attahto the extent people haven't given up or moved on...21:03
coderusxecept ones who dont want to return21:03
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pdanekI think it's safe to say, that Jolla doesn't plan to release Jolla 2 on their own. If so, it will be rebranded Intex for example.21:19
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pdanekBut... was there development and design of Jolla 2 in the past?21:20
pdanekOr it never happened?21:20
pdanekhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=96267 !!!!!!!!!!!!!21:24
pdanekSwype!21:24
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sakustarpdanek: why not just use android ffox22:27
pdaneksakustar: because it won't run in the background, right?22:28
sakustarwhy does it need to run in the background? am i missing out on something22:28
sakustar:(22:28
pdaneksakustar: because that's the whole point of using Sailfish OS? having true multitasking?22:29
pdanekinternet radio, videos, or slow webpages which you wanna let load and do something else in different app... anything22:29
pdanekor upload in some form22:29
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sakustarmeh i came for the keyboard, idk about multitasking22:30
sakustarcant you just whip out your laptop and tablet and shit when you gotta get tasks done at the same time22:31
sakustar;D22:31
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sakustarmaybe im just too used to having 2-3 phones with me22:32
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pdaneksakustar: the whole point of having smartphone is mobile laptop replacement, at least in my eyes22:49
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pdanekelse you could have cheapest phone with mobile tethering available to do the job22:49
pdanekand keyboard... if you speak about TOHKBD, it's very niche userbase, if that's Jolla's biggest strength, then they can close the shop right away22:50
pdanekSailfish biggest strength is definitely multitasking and using Android browser kills that, as browser is probably the most used app on phone22:51
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ottulopdanek: depends on user, I use it quite rarely23:09
ottuloso there are probably plenty of others who prefer to browse on other devices and use other apps more23:10
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pdanekright23:10
ottulonote that I don't carry a laptop/tablet etc with me usually, I just really don't need to browse on the go that often23:11
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pdanekottulo: got it23:11
pdanekI browse on the go constantly23:12
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