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temmi_hookimmoli, any idea on how to force navigation to keep tracking position through a telephone call?09:06
kimmolinope09:06
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temmi_hooit's bugging me till no end that i cannot just start navigating and call someone in order to chat for an hour or two until i'm closer to destination and need to start thinking while driving09:07
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r0kk3rztemmi_hoo: hammer geoclue through dbus?11:10
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temmi_hoodunno11:15
temmi_hoocan that be done using python or some other sane scripting language without going full oomph at c/++ leaking memory and all that associated bs i'd make as a bad coder?11:16
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temmi_hooi got ssh access all right so i can deploy my own scripts11:19
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temmi_hoowhich methods of starting background processess does sailfishos support? uptemd, sysstart, crontab?11:20
r0kk3rztemmi_hoo: you can bang on dbus with python, so yeh11:20
r0kk3rzsystemd can do on-demand services11:21
temmi_hooso i could register my cooler-than-world-combined-dbus-banger thing as providing something necessary to navigation app and systemd would fire that up every time navigation is on?11:22
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IZhtemmi_hoo: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/31702465/how-to-define-a-d-bus-activated-systemd-service11:25
temmi_hoo... not long ago i was thinking: now this systemd i'm really happy to stay away from11:25
temmi_hoobut then it's not like i have a choice as long as i'm not putting bsd on jolla11:26
IZhtemmi_hoo: After stutying it a bit, you'll love it. ;-)11:27
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temmi_hooknowing how launchd works i'm not so sure i'd love systemd11:34
temmi_hoothen again it's not like one could not have decided to use launchd in a linux distro but the usual freer than free through coercion -politics stopped that from happening11:35
temmi_hoomuch like how zfs could have just worked but it was necessary to start btrfs to support similar features11:35
r0kk3rzlove is a strong word, but it does have a few useful features11:37
r0kk3rzand unit files are dead easy11:38
r0kk3rzi also think that people overestimate the coercion politics around systemd. fact is it made the distros job easier11:41
r0kk3rzand so thats why they use it11:41
r0kk3rzperhaps all the modules are a bit too tightly bound, but there wasnt a lot of competition in that space anyway11:42
pp_it was a bit overpushed, yes11:42
temmi_hoooh i'm not speaking about systemd vs upstart vs init vs xinetd vs .... but more like the "oh we cannot ever possibly use some software that is not forced to be open by viral licence"11:43
pp_"It's totally compatible with sysv, there's no risk"11:43
pp_"Except this corner case we have with xxx, it breaks badly"11:43
pp_"well, too late, everyone else already switched, fix your code to work with systemd unit files"11:43
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r0kk3rztemmi_hoo: yeah i get you, but thats the philosophy side of foss i guess, you will always get people who disagree on such things11:46
r0kk3rzsome people hate the idea that something they built for the community will be used by a company to make money11:47
temmi_hooindeed, annoying that we have people driving politics instead of just having lots of nice software and technical merits :)11:47
temmi_hoooh it's not like gpl'ed software would not make money11:47
temmi_hooibm has set a good example that it can be very beneficial to pay for developing gpled software and keep selling services based on that - or even sell software as long as you also make it available for anybody willing to go through trouble of getting it themselves11:49
kimmoli"love, systemd, politics, philosophy" ... on same page...11:52
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temmi_hoowhat do you mean, "flash gordon approaching?", open fire ALL WEAPONS11:57
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r0kk3rzkimmoli: its valentines day after all12:00
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sobukusAnyone got a hint how I can download a media file (audio) via the web browser instead of playing it?21:49
sobukusI'm talking about a plain link to the file. Download is not offered as option:-/21:49
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r0kk3rz_curl?22:19
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sobukusYeah, well, this is a password protected page and hence it's a bit inconvenient.22:36
sobukusI repackaged the files into a tar now and was able to download that.22:37
sobukusThis is a bit stupid, really, but at least there _is_ a way;-)22:37
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r0kk3rz_yeah it is a bit stupid22:52
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