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phlixisobukus: maybe keep an android firefox for such cases, i guess that would do the job06:58
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Yanielhow's the linux DE space these days? I should probably look into moving from my startx+awesome setup to a proper DE16:50
Stskeepsget a mac16:51
Stskeeps:P16:51
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Teguand iphone and ipad and ipod and apple tv17:00
StskeepsTegu: interesting enough i don't have a desire to get an iphone17:01
TeguStskeeps: it was for yaniel anyways, no worries17:01
Stskeepsah17:02
Stskeeps:P17:02
Tegubut you can get 'em all, still17:02
TemeV_Yaniel: I think Gnome 3 is quite ok17:03
Tegubut about linu DE's, dunno. I just got stuck to lightdm+i317:03
Tegubut I know at last one guy who likes gnome 3, so worth a try, I guess17:04
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tappelKDE 5 looks like it's a step back from KDE 4, just like KDE 4 originally was17:04
TemeV_I think Linus said he uses Gnome 3 :)17:05
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* cb400f uses Plasma 5 that's more important ;-) ... even if it still has a few rough edges17:05
tappelbut I'll use anything that has virtual desktops17:07
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TemeVHmm... I logged in to Plasma side to take a look how it is now. 696 updates pending, I guess Gnome doesn't want to update Plasma stuff :)17:10
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Liekexfce.17:18
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r0kk3rzTemeV: you absolutely require the shortcut keys for gnome 3, but once you've internalised those then its good17:30
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TemeVr0kk3rz: yeah, it might not be as beginner friendly as e.g. os X, but you need shortcuts with any environment to work efficiently17:32
kjetilhoI don't see what GNOME 3 offers over Awesome, I'm moving the other direction :)17:32
r0kk3rzTemeV: im a happy gnome 3 user, but its more of a 'now dont be shocked, look up the keys and carry on'17:34
TemeVI haven't tried Awesome17:34
kjetilhoit's back to basics, for sure.  the configuration is a long Lua program17:35
TemeVI guess I don't bother then :)17:35
r0kk3rzkjetilho: then idk use awesome? thats why multiple DEs exist anyway17:37
kjetilhomy comment was directed at Yaniel17:38
TMavicaJolla Tab ordered17:38
Jopetaobao? :-)17:39
TMavicayes. with sailfish17:39
r0kk3rzTMavica: yeah im tempted17:39
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TMavicavery cheap17:40
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TMavicacheap to HK just 2 days17:40
r0kk3rzis less about the price and more what it is17:40
TMavica1500 HK dollars17:41
r0kk3rzgood performance, nice screen, sailfish + dalvik17:41
r0kk3rzautomatic updates17:41
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Accevote for xfce18:10
Accefor something more minimal, lxde18:10
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Mikaelavote for MATE which is in between of those two18:30
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coderusTMavica: nice!18:34
coderusTMavica: what is 15000HK in USD?18:34
TMavica150018:35
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coderusin USD18:35
TMavica1500 HKD = 190 USD18:35
coderusok18:35
coderusalmost same price actually18:35
coderus*almost*18:35
TMavicaya18:36
coderusgood luck! think you will get tablet with android and then flash it to sailfishos18:36
TMavicalol18:39
TMavicathe seller said is sailfish18:39
TMavicathere is 2 choice18:39
coderuscool, then preflashed :D18:39
TMavicai dont want take a risk18:39
coderusi actually want to flash my tablet to android, but dont have an android flashable image for it :(18:40
TMavicaandroid one is cheaper18:40
coderuscan you buy me android one and ship? :)18:40
TMavicai guess the shipping price is high18:40
coderusisn't it "FREE SHIPPING" as everywhere in ebay? :D18:41
TMavicai want ubiboot sailfish and android.18:41
coderusyeah that will be cool18:41
coderusbut not ubiboot i think18:41
coderusjust some any random multirom18:41
TMavicajuiceme: ping18:42
TMavicalol18:42
coderussince you can flash boot and any other part18:43
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coderusi mean android ones18:49
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coderusyou just need normal android recovery, but not required, since there is DnZ flashing mode for intel flasher :D18:50
coderusyou can attach usb flash drive with ubuntu and boot it18:50
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coderusand in ubuntu boot menu you can select to boot from internal memory and sailfish will be started fine from ubuntu grub18:51
coderusso18:51
juicemeTMavica pong18:51
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coderuswell not grub, but some other sort of efi loader18:52
coderusjuiceme: you need to make a multiboot for jolla tablet18:52
coderusto boot any os18:52
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juicemecoderus, mmh, yes it should not be that difficult.18:54
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juicemeprobably a modification of basic bootloaader is doable, no need to do like ubiboot18:55
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juicemeubiboot was a special case fot n9 because there was no possibility to have an unlocked bootloader18:56
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juicemehence needed to have "injected" linux bootloader18:56
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TMavicalooking forward to it19:10
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coderusthere is just droidboot.efi or so booting sailfish :)19:21
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