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entilI think there's something wrong with my vibrator06:36
entilon the jolla06:36
entilcan that be tested?06:36
Teguthat's a common problem06:38
TeguI had it an year ago, managed to get the phone replaced in warranty repair (warranty was just about to end)06:39
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Teguand a few months ago this unit did the same for a short while but for some reason it's now working though06:40
Teguentil: others have had the problem as well https://together.jolla.com/question/20279/vibration-problem/06:41
Teguand one message gives instructions on how to run csd tool to test the vibrator (launch from terminal "csd" or call *#*#310#*#* )06:43
Bysmyyrentil remember eu 2year minimum warranty if you live here06:44
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entilTegu: thanks06:52
entilBysmyyr: that's long gone, I'm afraid06:52
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Bysmyyrok, just pointed because oldest ones are 4months over so it was quite big possibility to have less than 2y06:54
entillol, "does device vibrate?" "fail" "vibrator: fail"06:55
entilyeah06:55
ln-this all does sound like a plot for an adult movie, btw.06:56
entilwtb fp2 w/ alien dalvik plz06:58
entilnao giev fp2 lol06:59
locusfno dalvik07:00
locusfbut sfdroid should work at some point07:00
entilwhy do I seem to recall there was a demo of alien dalvik on the fp207:01
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locusfprolly an internal one07:01
entilanything internal can be made external ;)07:02
entilthis is all living on a pipe dream :P07:02
cehtehis sfdroid for the jolla phone available?07:03
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entilthis phone of mine's slowly deteriorating, nfc and smart cover is fail (I dropped it and broke the nfc :/) and sometimes apps have trouble launching and I'm thinking that's due to memory issues, though I don't really have anything running07:05
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tigelientil: it could just the nfc antenna pins which are misaligned07:06
tigelipogo pins..07:06
entilpossible07:06
entilmaybe all of this could be fixed if I found the time to look through instructions, or maybe jolla care's still operational if I can be without a phone for a while, but I'm really jonesing for something new :D07:08
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tbrcould someone do me a favor and post about me selling my "right to a tablet" on TMO? (seems I never bothered to register)07:11
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tbrhttps://www.reddit.com/r/Jolla/comments/4aoajj/sell_jolla_tablet_32gb_lastucase_new_will_route/  if someone wants to contact me with an offer: jolla-tablet@ruecker.fi (address will be deactivated once device is sold, so no need to obfuscate, let the spammers have it)07:12
entilI passed that along, tbr07:14
entilbut what's the pledge finalization about?07:14
tbrthat's the VAT payment, that depends on the country of delivery07:15
tbrI'd guess it will be 40-70€07:15
tbrsomeone who received their tablet might want to comment on this07:16
tbras the tablet will be directly delivered to that person, not to me07:17
entilI received mine but it's been too long for me to remember07:17
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tbrbtw: I find it quite cute how the people on reddit 'hate' on me for trying to sell my tablet at a market price that happens to be above the pledge value07:18
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tbra) I really need the money b) there is demand (I have some offers already) c) I'd probably be selling closer to pledge value if not a)07:19
phlixiisnt that a littlebit exegerating? btw Nicd- (i guess its the same person) is also here :-)07:20
ln-it is cute nevertheless07:20
tbrwell, Nicd- suggesting that I sell below value was just hilarious07:21
phlixii can not see more comments^^07:21
phlixionly comparison i have is http://www.ebay.de/itm/191824680347 which is not as new, but includes shipping and is 64gb07:21
tbrthe post is downvoted to '0' (seems to be the visible limit) and the comment is at '-4'07:22
tbrit's the reddit form of silent hate07:22
tbryes, that ebay auction was my data point (sadly only one)07:23
tbrmine is 32, but has the lastu case, similar pledge value07:23
tbrand is new, delivered by jolla07:23
tbrand if I'd call for 400 (and buyer then pays 40-50 for shipping), then people would immediately try to push me down to 300-350.07:24
tbror 200 ;-)07:25
ln-i wonder if some people sell their stock market shares for the same price as they bought them, after their real value has gone up by 200%.07:25
JvD_46e was taxes for me in Finland for 64GB no case07:25
phlixiln-: thats called hebel zertifikate (sorry, i have no clue whats that in english)07:26
tbrI'd love to be in the position where I wouldn't need to care for the price I sell this at so much. While I don't need the money 'yesterday', I do need the maximum I can get, so I have to be a capitalist for once.07:27
LarstiQln-: yes, in the case of a call option07:27
phlixi...there you go07:27
phlixi^^07:27
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tbrthe jolla pledge is more like a call option :)07:30
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BysmyyrI do not see any problem with that price, if someone buy, then fine, if not price is too high07:33
tbryes07:33
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tbrif someone wants to try to convince me of a lower price, they are free to try, but the lower they try the higher the chance I'll just delete the email07:34
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henkphlixi: don’t let those people get to you07:46
phlixi?07:52
henkuhm, yes, right, not you … sorry (:07:57
henktbr: don’t let those people get to you07:57
henkthat’s the right one07:58
tbr:)08:01
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chem|stdoes anyone have a bmw mmi and can elaborate on what is working and what not with sfos?08:29
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kimmolimanly machine interface ?08:59
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chem|stkimmoli: lol, kind of yes, feels like entering a mainframe-workstation on wheels15:13
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attahHmm, i got a refund email.. but i did get a tablet.. should i do something? :P19:14
ln-probably not19:15
ln-i'm not going to anyway19:15
attahas good of a reason as any, i suppose :)19:15
ln-trying to get refunded despite getting a tablet would be an attempted fraud19:16
ln-and if you do nothing, they won't refund you by force. so doing nothing is the way to go.19:17
IrahAnyone else have the forever-hibernate problem with the tablet?19:17
attahi was thinking more along the lines of "donating" the money yet again19:18
attahIrah: please elaborate...19:18
cb400fmaybe they don't know they sent mistaken e-mails19:18
cb400fmight be a good idea to bring attention to the mistake19:19
IrahAfter updating, it sometimes just "shuts down" when left alone. Actually it probably just kernel panics or something and the screen stays blank.19:19
IrahSomething to do with the sleep states.19:20
attahcb400f: any suggestion on where to send it..? i think the support email was left unmoitored in favor of the zendesk thingy19:20
attahIrah: no.. mine just chews battery like mad, yet fails to wake the wifi when i unsleep it19:21
cb400fdunno.. maybe rust respond to the campaigns@jolla.com e-mail you got19:22
IrahLast thing that gets logged on journalctl is something like: "Jolla kernel: PM: suspend entry <date and time here>"19:23
attahworth a shot... i'll add info@ too19:23
mal-I have understood that the refund system knows about delivered and to-be-delivered tablets so it won't refund if you already have it or will have it19:29
cb400fbut it still e-mails people? .. just to test their ethics? :-)19:30
cb400fto see if they're actually worthy of having the tablet ;-)19:30
Stskeepsattah: send a mail to care for good measure19:31
attahStskeeps: i just sent it to campaigns@ and info@.. do you think should i send another to care too?19:32
attahI thought that was not really monitored anymore..19:33
Stskeepscare is active19:33
Stskeepsbut care email doesn't work, no19:33
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attahDone.19:38
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