#jollamobile log for Monday, 2016-05-09

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arvutanyone awake and eager to problemsolve why I can't re-download developer tools?01:00
arvutI need advice on what to do next01:00
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arvutall the screen click vibration in the world cannot match the tactileness of a mechanical keyboard, I need to ssh back into my phone with my desktop keyboard01:15
arvutplz help me regain developer-mode, I miss it so much01:16
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chriadamarvut: do you have fingerterm installed?03:37
chriadamarvut: what does `ssu s` and `ssu lr` tell you?03:38
chriadamarvut: you probably need a jolla account on the device, as a precondition.03:38
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arvutchriadam: not separatly, didn't find it in store either04:32
arvutchriadam: I had it, previously04:32
arvutI disabled dev-mode and now I can't reenable it04:32
arvutI've cleared app-cache, relogged in with account, and still get error that "jolla-developer-mode could not be found in store" when I try to enable it from settings04:33
arvutI will reset device if so need be04:33
arvutI have nothing important on it04:33
kimmoliarvut: you can't ssh in over usb? did you try that shellex thing? can you run those ssu commands with it?04:44
arvutkimmoli: I have not tried that, can you give brief starting directions?04:44
arvutI can connect it as pc-mode04:45
arvutand it is recognized as xhci usb device04:45
arvutI can mount it with jmtpfs as well04:45
arvutbut atm I have no working desktop system either, I'm rebuilding it due to filesystem issues04:45
arvutworking from livecd for a bit04:45
kimmoliah.this then? https://openrepos.net/content/acce/shellex04:46
arvuthow do I install it?04:47
arvutI have yet not used openrepos, I've heard of it though04:47
arvutkimmoli: do I add the repo to store in some way? or is there a separate application for this?04:48
arvutkimmoli: I can install programs just fine from store atm04:48
arvutirc app installed just fine the other day04:48
kimmoliif that is in store?04:48
arvutshellex?04:48
kimmoliyep04:48
* arvut having a look04:49
kimmoliotherwise enable untrusted from settings, and just click the link on that webpage04:49
arvutok, installing04:49
arvutahh04:49
arvutso that's how you do it04:49
arvutdoes that site work as a off-store repo for dev pkgs? (unstable)04:50
arvutI'm on unstable gentoo, so I'm used to buggy programs (they are not awfully common though)04:50
arvutnot 100% unstable ofcourse04:51
arvutthat would probably be a mess04:51
kimmolimostly stuff that is not allowed in store04:52
arvutright04:53
arvutso dev stuff more or less04:53
arvutthat's fine with me, I've considered putting gentoo in dualboot on my jolla04:53
arvutwould be cool if it runs04:53
arvutbtw, do you know anything about f2fs?04:54
kimmolione thing at time04:55
arvutok fine, I had two double espressos already, excuse my haste ;)04:56
arvutand I'm home and back at my keyboard, which is awesome and epicly sweet04:56
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kimmolii'm at pre-coffee time still... dripping still04:56
arvutclassic drip coffee?04:57
arvutper machine or manual?04:57
kimmolimachine. did you got shellex running?05:00
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arvutright, I got it installed, running now05:06
arvutwhat do I run?05:06
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arvutper machine, what kind of machine are we speaking?05:06
arvutcan we have two discussions at the same time?05:06
arvutor is coffee totally offtopic here05:06
Stskeepsit's not05:07
Stskeepsi'm into cold brew05:07
arvutyou extract caffeine from coffee with lack of heat?05:07
arvutwhat method?05:07
arvutkimmoli: what do I run in shellex? /etc/init.d/sshd start?05:09
kimmolichriadam commands ^05:10
arvutahh thx05:10
Stskeepsbasically i take a pitcher of cold water and put coffee powder in it (i'm too lazy to grind it coarse myself), stuff it in a fridge for 12 hours , filter out the powder, dilute with water or milk, it kicks like a mule, tastes fantastic, lasts me whole day and is not acidic05:10
Stskeepsalso it doesn't spoil, so i just keep it in fridge for whole week05:11
Stskeepssince acidic comes from the burning part/boiling water05:11
Stskeepsso very good for my stomach :)05:11
arvutchriadam: not registered, and ; enabled, then disabled repos global and user05:12
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arvutkimmoli: that was also for you, and anyone else listening to this problem05:13
kimmoliwhat was Domain?05:15
arvutstore-repository.jolla.com and releases.jolla.com05:15
kimmolissu domain05:16
arvutsales05:16
arvutthis needs to change, doesn't it?05:16
arvutto a dev value05:16
kimmolino05:17
kimmoli"sales" is good05:17
arvutok, what next?05:17
kimmolipkcon search name developer05:17
arvutI can take a printscreen and upload to imgur if that's helpful05:17
kimmoliand you are on 2.0.1.11 ?05:18
kimmolior 2.0.0.10 ?05:18
arvutshellex keeps restarting itself after each typed command (when starting to type the next), is this normal?05:18
arvut0.1005:18
kimmolithe above pkcon command, did you see Available jolla-developer-mode... in results05:19
arvutkimmoli: I've changed account on device, this phone used to belong to my sister, she now has my old (which is not in use)05:20
arvutdoes this affect it?05:20
arvutI enabled dev-mode on her phone, with her account05:20
arvutand I've relogged with my account, which I used to enable devmode on my old phone (the unused one)05:21
kimmoliafaiu it shouldnt have effect. unless store tracks it somehow for warranty causes? (?)05:21
arvutmaybe it does05:21
arvutif I can get her login details, I can check if relogging as her allows for re-installing devmode05:22
arvutI'll ask her for them later on this evening I suppose05:22
arvutand she will hate me for having to bother with it xD05:22
kimmoli:)05:23
kimmolibut... did you see something like this?05:23
kimmoliInstalled       jolla-developer-mode-0.3.24-10.25.1.jolla.armv7hl       Developer mode for Jolla devices05:23
arvutis there anything I can do from shellex to enable fingerterm or even whole devmode?05:24
arvutI'll check, which command would output it?05:24
kimmolipkcon search name developer05:24
arvutoh yeah, I did05:24
arvutits available05:24
arvut0.3.2205:24
arvut-1005:25
arvutAvailable    usb-jolla-developer-mode-0.82.3-1.19.1.armv7h1 is there as well05:26
kimmolihmm.. afaiu 0.3.22 is valid for 2.0.0.1005:27
arvuthow would I update to 2.0.1.11?05:27
arvutdoes it need dev permission?05:27
kimmolithe repository refresh needs05:29
kimmolihmm.05:29
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kimmolihttps://openrepos.net/content/lourens/fingerterm05:30
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kimmolithere was a fork of fingerterm in OR. install that05:30
arvutis it unmodified?05:30
kimmoliit has some small fixies05:31
arvutthat's ok05:31
arvutis it more like fingterm for n9?05:31
* arvut has lost his n9 somewhere in his appartment05:31
kimmolifingerterm is fingerterm05:32
kimmolii'm just worried, that there is "Categories=X-SailfishDeveloperMode;" in desktop file. hope it doesnt hide it if no developer mode.05:32
arvutkimmoli: can I cat it?05:33
arvutwith shellex05:33
kimmoliurf, i need to go. to real work. if it does not appear, /usr/share/applications/fingerterm.desktop is the file05:34
arvutwhat is desktop file called?05:34
arvutk05:34
arvutthx for help, I will get to the root with this05:34
kimmoliaa the change was for nemo05:34
kimmoliok, bbl05:35
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Lieke2016-05-09: 2.0.1.11 Roll-out to all users.12:39
Liekeprogress!12:40
mdxthuu12:41
pp_ooh12:41
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kimmolihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpXN8BvGp_o12:52
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jaywalkSplendid! my broken jolla tablet is now being repaired, hopefully not many days off from being back in my hands in working condition.14:27
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Ingvixsplendid is a funny word14:30
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trusiadHi.14:36
trusiadI just installed sailfish OS on my ZTE OPEN C, but the jolla store seems not to be working.14:36
trusiadMany areas are empty, and I can't install anything...14:37
trusiadIs it everyone or just me new user ?14:37
ggabrieltrusiad: maybe take this to the porters channel? #sailfishos-porters14:40
ggabrielalso, check if things are meant to work with that device first, etc.14:41
trusiadDoes the store work for you ?14:43
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r0kk3rztrusiad: #sailfishos-porters is what you need, maybe the store hasnt been configured on that port yet14:44
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ggabrielstore works ok for jolla1, yes14:46
ggabrieland tablet14:46
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trusiadIs there any way to install webapps on sailfish ?14:59
ggabrielyou mean like the ones for chrome/chromium?15:00
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trusiadnope. i mean html5 apps, like the ones for firefox OS.15:01
trusiadwhich are supposed to be cross-platform15:01
ggabrieli don't know... check tjc? maybe there's a request for that15:01
ggabrieljava is supposed to be cross platform but they bundle some software with  .BAT to install so go figure15:02
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trusiadSo I can have sailfish on my phone but no apps...15:03
ggabrielyou can side load applications15:04
trusiadah... how ?15:04
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ggabrielget rpm, open terminal, pkcon install_local /paht/to/rpm15:05
ggabrielI think15:05
ggabrielthere's openrepos too15:06
trusiadok...15:06
ggabrielalso, if you download an rpm from the phone itself you can just tap on it15:06
ggabrieland it intsalls15:06
trusiadThanks. I'll try that...15:06
ggabrieljust a word of warning: you don't get maps, android or anything that's closed15:07
trusiadYeap. I don't have the android compatibility, it seems.15:11
trusiadOn oepnrepos there's debs... I can install that too ?15:12
trusiadWhere do I get the rpms of which I am sure they will work ?15:12
Yanielno15:12
Yanielmake sure you are looking at sailfish apps15:12
Yanielnot meego apps15:13
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trusiadok. Yes, it was a meego app.15:15
trusiadIs there a way to sort apps for sailfish ?15:16
trusiadJust found it.15:17
phlixi_oi recommend warehouse for openrepos (some other may not agree with me on that one)15:19
trusiadyeap, I understood that.15:21
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trusiadTrying to install an app, it complains about a missing 'libtcl'. But I can't find it anywhere ... ?15:43
kidfrom the store or openrepos?15:44
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trusiadboth15:46
kidand which app?15:47
trusiadexpect15:47
trusiadit's the name of the app15:47
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bafferthe latest update sent my jolla to the bootloop hell. I managed to telnet into the phone, and I'm trying to use the btrfs recovery. Does anyone have any idea how long it's supposed to take? It's been like 15 minutes now. :-)19:45
cehtehit may take longer, iirc you can query its status and/or look at dmesg19:48
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bafferokay, thanks19:48
Ingvixoh, there's a new stable release19:48
bafferyeah, real stable... :)19:49
Ingvixuh, yes19:50
cehtehsince when?19:57
Ingvixhmm, was there anything else I should do before installing the new update other than remove patches?19:58
Ingvixand backup19:59
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bafferI can't telnet to the phone anymore... I thought that btrfs should be pretty fail safe21:50
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Stskeeps    /g 1922:03
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phlixi_telnet22:19
phlixi_cant remember when the string "telnet" was used the last time not within a joke...22:19
bafferha22:21
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