#jollamobile log for Tuesday, 2016-05-10

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Nicd-baffer: btrfs is horrible on the phone :D05:36
tbrit would be better with an up to date kernel...05:41
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pp_hehe, I still use telnet all the time (not to port 23 tho)06:11
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r0kk3rztelnet is still good for probing smtp servers07:33
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arvutwhat do I have to do to re-enable dev-tools? system is unable to find them in store now when I've disabled them, or can I only have them installed on one device at the time with my account? (as in needing a separate account for the 2nd device)08:34
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loic_mDo you know if jolla phone has Bluetooth Low Energy?09:00
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r0kk3rzloic_m: yes and no. Hardware is there, Software is not09:05
loic_mhuhu09:05
loic_mweird :)09:05
loic_mso I don't need to buy a health tracker as it won't be able to connect to my phone09:06
loic_msave money with Jolla ;)09:06
r0kk3rznot without rolling your own BLE stack, and probably app to go along with it no09:07
loic_mI wanted to buy a Withing product (they make nice health tracker) and their app is available in Aptoide09:09
loic_mbut without BLE stack on the phone, it won't work09:09
r0kk3rzAndroid doesnt get bluetooth at all, let alone BLE :)09:09
loic_mAndroid support within SailfishOS you mean?09:11
r0kk3rzcorrect09:11
loic_mok09:11
loic_mthis could be a useful feature btw09:12
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r0kk3rzim sure, if you can figure out how to make it work then im sure there will be people interested to know how09:14
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loic_msure09:15
loic_mI just don't know a single thing about all that :)09:15
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fluxooh, jolla must have noticed how I've been looking at S7 (re. update)10:37
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entilI had a dream the other night of buying the fp2 and getting android support going on it10:47
phlixi_o:D10:50
phlixi_olet me know once your dream comes true10:50
phlixi_o^^10:50
phlixi_oso i tried to hear a video during a train ride and with the built in media player thats only suboptimal...10:50
phlixi_oi wonder if someone wants to recommend a player to me, which is better for lectures/talks, where i a) only want to look at the picture sporadically and want the playback to continue with display off (putting the phone in the pocket) and bonus: b) better controls for longer media files, 1h, or 2h, its cumbersome to scroll 20sec back with the default player...10:51
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Yanielyou could try the ll media player11:04
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fluxis there any player that remembers playlist and track position between invocations?11:22
fluxpreferably even if the shutdown was due to oom..11:22
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phlixi_oflux for podcasts i use gpodder, wich kind of does this, however that does not fit well if its not an actuall podcast (or in this sense something you can subscribe via rss or similar)11:39
phlixi_othats why i am looking for the other stuff which is not a podcast, but also long running media11:40
fluxphlixi_o, yeah, I was thinking local files11:40
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fluxI have these two-hour dj mixes and it's a chore to add+seek (also remember the position) on startup/after oom11:41
flux..in fact I think it would be great if the builtin media player worked exactly like that, but I guess we won't have that :)11:42
phlixi_oback in the maemo times i would have thought, well, flux check out panucci11:42
phlixi_obut i dont know if its available for sailfish, i guess its dead11:42
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phlixi_oi dont think the stock media player will get significant changes, there is tons of stuff to do, the stock player can do basic stuff, for "special needs" get a special player :-)11:43
fluxI suppose its source code hasn't been opened?11:43
phlixi_othanks Yaniel found lls video player in warehouse, will check that out :-)11:43
phlixi_oafaik its oos11:44
phlixi_ooss11:44
fluxoh, well then in that case it might be amenable to enhancements, no?-o11:44
fluxI mean how is it a nice experience that your sound stops and you need to not only start your media player but also find the media etc :)11:44
phlixi_ohttp://wiki.gpodder.org/wiki/Panucci11:44
fluxaah, panucci, right11:45
phlixi_ohttps://github.com/xerxes2/panucci11:45
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fluxso first I should port panucci to sailfish and then add local file support.. :)11:46
phlixi_oi would asume you can skip parts of this11:47
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phlixi_owhile looking for lls video player i also stumbled upon "Watch'me" by thebootroo, will check that too, :-)11:48
phlixi_o(last one in the store, havent checked openrepos)11:50
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phlixi_oflux: seems like 2 years ago panucci ran at least in the sailfish emulator already: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?s=609cb2fc86ef63826cb96673786f8c80&t=25584&page=5712:01
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phlixi_oand it is in open repos...12:14
phlixi_oflux: https://openrepos.net/content/xerxes2/panucci12:15
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bafferhad to dig my N95 up, hopefully only temporarily12:34
r0kk3rzbaffer: bricked good and hard then?12:41
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bafferr0kk3rz: well yeah, I can't telnet to the phone and do a factory reset... I read some blog entry yesterday about reinstalling the os via a sd card with sailfish os written on it, I'll try that today...13:00
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r0kk3rzbaffer: you cant? thats really broken then13:04
bafferr0kk3rz: yeah :( I was able to telnet yesterday, but after trying the btrfs rescue, not anymore13:05
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r0kk3rz:/13:06
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mornfallwell, if btrfs breaks there is no reset13:30
mornfallit fundamentally relies on btrfs working13:30
bafferI was thinking about trying the fastboot mode describer here: http://reviewjolla.blogspot.fi/2014/10/download-jolla-factory-image-file-for.html13:34
bafferoh wait, I can't to even that since I can't access the shell13:37
bafferrip13:37
mornfall„A: At the moment only the "Device Reset" function works as expected. Using any other fix you risk further damaging your device's software to a state, where even device reset does not work.“13:41
mornfallfrom the support page on the recovery menu13:41
mornfallso that'd explain why after btrfs recovery nothing works, I guess13:41
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baffer"Try btrfs recovery if your device is in bootloop" seemed like a safe bet since the device was bootlooping13:45
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bafferbut yeah, apparently not13:45
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mornfallanyone managed to reflash the phone to ext4, btw?13:49
mornfallis there an ext4 arm image, even?13:49
r0kk3rzmornfall: not to my knowledge13:49
bafferis there any known issues that would cause the bootloop issue after updating the os?13:50
bafferI had installed some TOHKBD related patches earlier13:51
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r0kk3rzpatches can break things13:53
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baffersomeone is selling a jolla at 60 euros locally fortunately14:06
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till_I manged to damage my main partition as well while reinstalling patches14:11
till_ended up reflashing the main partition (/dev/mmblck0p28) via telnet->shell14:12
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Yanielhttp://www.macrumors.com/2016/05/10/apple-patents-ipad-pro-covers/ I hope Jolla has their own patents for TOHs17:42
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r0kk3rzYaniel: could be considered prior art though, i doubt they patented it17:58
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kimmolihttp://stks.freshpatents.com/Jolla-Oy-nm1.php18:06
Tegutoi ekan otsikko on mahdollisimman geneerinen. hyh18:08
Teguooops18:08
Teguwrong language for this channel. I meant the first one is quite generic. yuck18:09
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phlixi_hmmm, whats the way jolla thought i would get video files on to the tablet?18:19
phlixi_given that i am right know are limited to a win10 machine18:20
phlixi_(besides downloading the file via browser...)18:20
cehtehdevel mode, rsync18:21
phlixi_thats why i wrote "whats the way jolla thought i would do this" :D18:22
phlixi_thus without cheating :-)18:22
phlixi_but in the end you are right, i will probably enable devmode anyway18:22
cehtehi complained about that too .. no ssh w/o devel mode sux18:23
phlixi_we argued about that... i think its consistent to bundle :D18:24
IschwitzI don't really see what bad enabling dev mode could bring18:24
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phlixi_i just wanted to play the game how can i use the device as a silly user18:25
phlixi_turns out i did nothing besides using the browser (which is enough for me most of the time)18:26
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IschwitzI like to play sudoku18:26
phlixi_i am sure there are myriads of good web implementations18:27
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phlixi_otherwise i do not see a reason to not implement such thing as a website18:27
phlixi_ok, not entirely true, but in general^^18:28
Ischwitzcan't tablet connect to win10 with usb?18:29
phlixi_i generally do not like the "there needs to be an app" for this, where 90% of the time a nice webapp could have been made18:29
phlixi_...brought us the closed lockin to g&a ;-(18:29
phlixi_seems not to work, at least "just plug in and works" does not work^^18:30
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Ischwitzwell I have some troubles getting it work on win7 too. Sometimes it connects straight away when inserting usb and selecting pc connection but maybe most of the time it sort of holds the connecting until you take the usb out andcan't really connect that way, can you18:32
IschwitzSo I mainly use ssh to transfer files between devices18:33
Ischwitzand dropbox for the moment18:34
phlixi_ill check win7 later18:34
Ischwitztill I got my owncloud server up18:34
Ischwitzoh and I'm talking about jolla phone18:34
phlixi_how should this work via owncloud?18:34
phlixi_ah, ok18:34
IschwitzI'm not sure if you can transfer other than pics from jolle to owncloud18:35
phlixi_on the phone are a few more apps available :-)18:35
Ischwitzjolla*18:35
Ischwitzit's intergrated with the latest "stable" version18:35
Ischwitzso I think it should be on the tablet too18:35
Ischwitzthough I'm not sure if they have same system updates18:36
Ischwitzsince I don't have the tablet18:36
phlixi_but in the end this would not be a nice solution, since i would prefer to get the files locally without squeezing them through my DSL two times^^18:36
Ischwitzyes, the usb is one thing that really should work so casual users could transfer files easily18:37
phlixi_as far as i understand thats only for "auto upload the photos you take", but i could be wrong there, i didnt looked into that in detail18:37
IschwitzI too don't know of other use18:38
phlixi_(since on the phone i already use cargo dock to access files and besides that caldav & cardav works nicely with owncloud for me)18:38
Ischwitzand I don't even know how to auto upload. I only know about the menu item in media that uploads them to owncloud or dropbox18:38
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phlixi_....cargo dock for file sin my OC.... otherwise usually SSH :-)18:39
phlixi_ok, then maybe even without the "auto"18:39
Ischwitzthat auto upload would be a good feature seeing all the cases of stolen phones where the thief have taken picture of themself and it got uploaded to some cloud18:41
phlixi_hehe18:42
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Milo-is jolla tablet not able to connect to two wifi networks at the same time?19:12
Milo-can't pair it with my gopro19:12
Milo-or maybe android support just lacks wifi19:14
attahMilo-: Is *anything* able to connect to two wireless networks at once?19:17
sakustaryes19:17
Milo-attah ^19:17
attahi did quick google.. and i got "no" :S19:18
Milo-but it isn't even able to connect to the gopro even while wlan is disconnect (but enabled)19:18
attahnow that's a problem...19:18
phlixi_so the gopro provides an wlan AP?19:19
Milo-the device has a "pair with app" option19:20
Milo-and the app has "pair with device"19:20
Milo-but the app just reports "we can't find your gopro"19:20
phlixi_to me that sounds more like bluetooth, but i have no idea :-)19:21
Milo-it does, but it is under "wifi" in camera settings19:21
sakustardoes it support ad hoc wifi (tablet)19:23
Milo-no idea19:23
TemeVI think Sailfish doesn't support that, at least with Android apps19:29
TemeVI tried connecting to some camera once and it didn't work either19:30
sakustargopro uses adhoc, no? :)19:30
TemeVI'd guess so. That kind of devices usually do19:30
Milo-quick googling says no adhoc support in connman, but hw-wise it would work19:31
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phlixi_usually gadgeds of that type that came acros my eyeballs open an wlan ap, but that didnt include a go pro so far20:06
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phlixi_also on a first glance this: https://gopro.com/help/articles/Solutions_Troubleshooting/GoPro-App-Camera-Connection-Troubleshooting20:09
phlixi_indicates to me its bluetooth and wifi but AP20:10
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pdanekTMavica: ?20:41
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