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niccsHas anyone got refund?05:48
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phlixi_niccs: not me, but i read in this channel that someone got mail fom paypal confirming money07:59
niccsOk07:59
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YanielI did, yes09:08
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citylight2who to make media player scan SD for songs?09:51
r0kk3rzcitylight2: i never had to do anything special09:52
stephgcitylight2: it's tracker09:53
stephgyou can control the behaviour with tracker-control in a terminal and nuke it if you have the jolla utilities installed in settings09:54
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gizmo___hi13:42
gizmo___anyone by chance got an idea of how to prevent that the filesystem mounted through the recovery shell is read only?13:44
gizmo___i was able to backup all necessary data from a bricked jolla.. but i can't seem to set it back to factory settings or delete etc. for that matter13:45
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r0kk3rzgizmo___: you are following the zendesk article?13:49
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gizmo___r0kk3rz: yea13:50
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gizmo___quick followup question? does anyone know if new phones will ever be sold again?14:04
gizmo___the site says out of stock for quite a while now14:05
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wysiwtfi guess after the trouble with the tablet they said they are going to focus on the os for the time being?14:06
gizmo___i wouldn't mind ditching this particular jolla phone and replace it with a new one.. but that doesn't seem to be an option given their current sales status :)14:06
wysiwtfthere have been several attempts to run sailfish on 3rd party devices14:07
wysiwtfbut i have no clue where its at14:07
gizmo___its my daughters phone and i could give her mine for the time being (copy her data over..) but what am i going to do in the meantime? :D14:07
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gizmo___seperating a teenager from her phone for longer than a couple of hours is _not_ recommended. next time i'll buy a backup phone :D14:08
gizmo___wysiwtf: yeah. like the fairphone14:09
gizmo___i'd rather prefer getting another jolla tbh14:09
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tadzikfor me the lack of android support is a dealbreaker with 3rdparty for now14:11
gizmo___oh wow, i think this thing is really broken by now.. i can't even mount /dev/mmcblk0p28 at all anymore14:11
gizmo___after i tried the "set back to factory settings" option14:12
gizmo___tadzik: i could live without it, but my daughter couldn't either14:13
gizmo___whatsapp etc.. all these evil cloud apps... very important to her and her friends14:14
gizmo___i'm happy with a proper shell14:16
gizmo___:D14:16
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tadzikI could probably live without jakdojade.pl and Google Maps, but Steam Mobile Authenticator is a must :P14:17
gizmo___haha14:19
gizmo___i'm rarely switching machines with my steam account.. so i don't feel the need14:21
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tadzikit was a requirement for TF2 competitive beta, so I got it14:23
tadzikhate thing and how often I need to reach for it14:23
r0kk3rzgizmo___: is this a problem after the latest update?14:24
* pahartik would like to buy another "Jolla Mobile" device, or actually two of them14:24
gizmo___r0kk3rz: yes14:24
r0kk3rzthere was another person with a similar issue just recently14:24
gizmo___the update bricked it basically14:25
gizmo___or i think it did14:25
r0kk3rzupdate -> bootloop -> recovery -> brick?14:25
gizmo___more or less14:25
gizmo___between recovery and brick i managed to copy everything to an sd card14:26
r0kk3rzopen a support ticket on zendesk14:26
gizmo___then i did the factory reset14:26
gizmo___and now it seems dead14:26
gizmo___i can still enter recovery console14:26
gizmo___but i can't mount anything anymore14:26
r0kk3rzthe other person couldnt even get to recovery console14:27
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gizmo___i wish i had bought several jollas back then14:28
gizmo___not just the two we use14:28
gizmo___r0kk3rz: too bad, i feel his/her pain14:28
r0kk3rzstill, create a ticket, it helps to jolla team to track post-update problems like this14:29
Raimgizmo___: you are not alone with this btrfs problem apparently: https://together.jolla.com/question/133641/bricked-after-trying-update-to-20111-btrfs-balancing-issue/14:30
bafferyeah I was the other guy14:31
bafferwho got bricked14:31
gizmo___baffer: hey14:31
bafferat first I could get to the recovery console, but after trying the btrfs rescvue option, I couldn't get to the console anymore14:32
RaimI am not sure you will be able to repair a completely broken btrfs... only if you got a full dd image of the mmcblk0p28 partition you could restore that.14:32
gizmo___i had a similar problem with a laptop quite recently.. filesystem was in read only mode, nothing that could be done about it. wouldn't even boot past grub.. i had to take the drive out, fix it from another machine and put it back14:33
gizmo___i still have the recover shell14:33
gizmo___if someone could provide me a vanilla mmcblk0p28 image...?14:34
gizmo___oh.. no dd in the rescue shell14:34
gizmo___well that makes things a tad bit more complicated, but not impossible14:35
gizmo___ah, no.. dd is still there14:36
gizmo___hm14:37
gizmo___i could copy the image from my jolla to my daughters phone14:37
bafferis it possible to mount jolla's drive on a computer and then write a new Sailfish OS image with dd to the drive?14:37
gizmo___and then maybe do the factory reset and start over14:37
gizmo___baffer: well i can use telnet to access the jolla at the moment14:38
gizmo___and i can mount sd cards14:38
bafferI can't even use telnet anymore... thats why I'm asking :)14:38
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gizmo___ah, true.. sorry. i forgot for a second14:38
gizmo___a door just opened up for me14:38
gizmo___sorry for being so selfish and ignorant14:39
bafferI didn't mean it like that, don't worry14:39
gizmo___ok14:40
gizmo___mounting it directly would indeed be great14:40
r0kk3rzbaffer: jolla has flashing tools like that afaik14:41
bafferr0kk3rz: ok, so it's not really something you can DIY14:42
Raimbaffer: Jolla supports fastboot as used for Android phones, that keyword should give you some hints14:42
bafferRaim: thanks14:42
gizmo___i'll backup the image from my own phone in the meantime14:42
gizmo___and try to flash it to the other14:43
gizmo___wish me luck14:43
Raimbaffer: hm, but there does not seem to be any compatible public image available. I only remembered it did use fastboot... :-(14:45
Raimgizmo___: https://together.jolla.com/question/134299/how-do-i-get-the-file-for-my-home-directory-into-readwrite-mode-using-the-jolla-recovery-v031-tool/14:47
Raimgizmo___: that person has solved it, but did not share the solution yet...14:47
bafferRaim: I wonder if jolla customer service would be kind enough to share a compatible public image14:48
Raimbaffer: I doubt it. I think it was due to licensing.14:49
r0kk3rzbaffer: yeah no chance, we've been asking for this since day one14:50
bafferoh... :/14:51
bafferso there is no solution really14:51
Raimbaffer: but maybe you could load a working kernel and initramfs via fastboot to get access to the device again14:51
bafferhmmm..14:51
Raimbaffer: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Sailfish/Backup_Device14:52
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bafferthanks, looks promising!14:55
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gizmo___Raim: it would be too late for me now as i can't mount the image at all anymore after i tried factory reset14:59
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bafferfastboot doesn't seem to work... according to https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Sailfish/Backup_Device the led should turn red and I should be able to connect16:59
bafferbut the led won't turn red16:59
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gizmo____yay, it worked18:27
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gizmo____so just in case someone gets stuck in a similar situation:18:28
gizmo____format a large enough sdcard with ext4, go into rescue shell, mount the sdcard, dump the mmcblk0p28 from the working phone via dd onto the sd card and do the opposite on the bricked jolla (sd->jolla), then perform the factory reset18:30
gizmo____my daughters jolla is now factory fresh.. yay18:30
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PeperJohnnycongrats and thanks for the info18:38
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Teguhm. trying to update but the "filesystem optimization" part prior to downloading seems to fail somehow. I press start, it shows a progress bar for a while but then it just comes back again and shows the "start filesystem otimization" btton ahain20:29
Tegucan't get past that phase.. I wonder what should be done20:30
giucamTegu: free some space20:30
Tegumm, I cold that.20:31
TeguIcould try that*20:31
TeguI should have a little over 10 GB used, but it's probabbly too much, I guess20:32
giucamIirc i needed around 4gb free20:32
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the_mgtTegu: a lttile over 10gb used could mean btrfs is already out of space. it simply sucks20:47
the_mgti once had trouble with 9,7gb used space20:48
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Teguthe_mgt: too bad :\ I tried freeing about a gigabyte now. it hasn't thrown me back yet20:57
gizmo____the bricked jolla here died btw. during that optimization20:57
Tegueek20:58
gizmo____so it was not the update that killed it20:58
HtheBgizmo____: brick?20:58
HtheBcant you dd it?20:58
gizmo____yeah, filesystem was broken beyond repair20:59
HtheBnot even telnet?20:59
gizmo____i dd'ed another jolla onto an sd20:59
gizmo____and dd'ed that over to the bricked one20:59
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gizmo____HtheB: it was just /dev/mmcblk0p28 that was lost21:00
gizmo____after that i could do a factory reset21:00
HtheBthat ain't a total brick though21:00
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HtheBgreat !21:00
gizmo____no, i could still use the rescue console.. luckily21:01
HtheBis it alive now?21:01
gizmo____yea21:01
HtheB\o/21:01
HtheBdd ftw21:01
gizmo____the only thing i can't play back is the contacts database at the moment as the folder is protected21:01
HtheBwho doesn't love double D's?21:01
HtheBheh21:01
gizmo____so i guess i have to go back to the rescue console, i guess21:02
HtheBgood luck mate!21:02
* HtheB is going to free up some space...21:02
HtheB1,5GB seems to be not enough21:02
HtheB¬_¬21:02
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Teguat leas this seems to take longer now. mabe it's doing something21:03
HtheBto optimize (aka balance) it for the update21:03
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pdanekTMavica: man, will you stop ignoring me please?21:04
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phlixiyoub know TMavica can not read this if you are on ignore pdanek, right?21:05
pdanekphlixi: why do you think I'm on his ignore list?21:05
pdanekI don't think I'm21:05
phlixiyou just said to please stop ignore21:06
pdanekyes, stop ignoring me21:06
pdaneknot meaning turning off ignore chat filter21:06
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phlixipdanek you know /wohis right? TMavica has been idle 91hrs 26mins 56secs, signed on Sun May 08 03:43:35 201621:11
phlixithus maybe not ignoring, but simply not recognizing. not everybody has some sort of ping/HL...21:12
phlixi(and that might have been just an automatic reconnect, thus "real" idle probably is much longer)21:12
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Teguthanks, the filesystem optimization finished now. downloadng.. but I still think the program should say why it failed21:14
pdanekhe's ignoring me last 6 months21:17
pdanekor keeps delaying21:17
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HtheBI find it annoying that my Whatsapp runs automatically21:35
HtheBeven when I DIDN'T run it...21:35
HtheBautomatic running/background process is turned off for Whatsapp21:36
HtheBHow come it still runs in the background when running some other Android app?21:36
pdanekyeah, it's quite odd on Jolla21:36
HtheBI need to open WhatsApp, and close it manually to make it sure that it's closed :/21:37
HtheBany ideas for a fix?21:37
HtheB(serious answers, so deleting the app itself is not an option :) )21:37
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pdaneknone that I know of21:44
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cehtehhttps://github.com/cehteh/wtfscache  .. soo .. maybe that becomes fun on the jolla too, not tried yet, just started hacking on it22:48
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tux|dudeHello23:49
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