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louisdkHi. Am I the only one who find the Jolla C to big and bulky?12:57
Yanielwell I found the Jolla 1 a bit too big and bulky12:58
Yaniel(and sharp)12:58
r0kk3rzmany discussions have been had on phone size12:59
r0kk3rzmaaany12:59
louisdkMy dream phone is still a 4" qwerty phone.12:59
r0kk3rzthen make one13:00
r0kk3rzbecause nobody else is :P13:01
suosaaskilouisdk: nokia e713:01
mal-I have a 3.7" qwerty phone with sailfish, a little old though13:01
louisdksuosaaski: outdated specs and closed bootloader.13:01
louisdkmal-: which one? :)13:02
mal-louisdk: xperia pro13:02
suosaaskilouisdk: but it is 4" and qwerty :D13:02
r0kk3rzslap down €1000 for a neo90013:03
louisdkr0kk3rz: doubt it's gonna run Sailfish :)13:04
louisdkmal-: impossible to find anywhere. How does it run with 512 mb ram?13:05
r0kk3rzit will if you make it?13:05
tadzikis it in a working state?13:05
mal-louisdk: reasonably ok, there are many people using it with sailfish, of course users must limit the number of apps they use so that it won't run out of memory13:07
mal-pretty much all features are supported but qwerty has some layout issues13:07
* louisdk is considering swapping out his Jolla C for a Fairphone 2.13:08
r0kk3rzyou complain about size, and then think about an FP2? lol.13:09
r0kk3rzfp2 is bulkier than jolla c13:10
mal-fp2 is the same size as jolla c but thicker13:10
louisdkat least I don't need to protect the Fairphone with a case. And it has a better screen.13:11
mal-I'm the porter of sailfish for both the xperia pro and fp213:14
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louisdkIf it breaks I can repair it myself unlike being screwed like with the Jolla C.13:15
louisdkmal-: does sfos run well on fp2?13:20
abransoni really want an fp2, but i think we really need a generally available sf phone in europe at a low price. for people to play with like raspberry pis.13:20
abransoni think each spare part for the fp2 costs more than a jolla C :)13:21
tadzikhaha, probably :)13:21
tadzikfairphone sounds pretty cool, but is way above what I think is reasonable to pay for a phone13:21
mal-louisdk: in my opinion yes, still some bugs left13:22
tadzikI really had to fight myself to buy the original jolla13:22
tadzikthe first new phone I ever bought too :P13:22
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r0kk3rzthe price is reasonable, but doesnt mean you can afford it13:25
tadzikwell, I can afford it, but I just wouldn't pay 500€ for a phone, even if it made me coffee, blowjobs and fried bacon13:27
tadzikevery time I get a new mobile toy it just ends being my glorified alarm clock and a calendar13:27
tadzikand in recent years, car navigation13:28
r0kk3rzFP have released a full cost breakdown, saying why it costs what it does13:28
abransoni think it's a different level of interest. over 250 euros people are much less likely to buy a phone as something on a fancy, just to play with.13:29
abransonthe price of the J1 meant you had to really want one to buy it13:29
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tadzikthe cost breakdown is quite interesting indeed13:34
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abransonr0kk3rz: don't get me wrong, i think an fp2 is worth every penny. but we're not going to tempt hobbyists in with 600 euro phones.13:38
mal-abranson: so we need a raspberry phone :P13:39
abransonpretty much13:39
r0kk3rzabranson: im using a very specific definition of 'reasonable', whether or not an individual wants to pay that much is entirely up to them13:39
abransonr0kk3rz: which will be different for a new long-term daily driver than for a casual foray to see what all this linux phone business is about.13:40
r0kk3rzthe whole point of it, is that its a fair trade. if you're not on board with that then get something else13:41
abransonsure, i think it's marvellous13:41
abransoni think my point is really about the price of the jolla1, but it's just stressing a need for a cheap sailfish phone in the west.13:42
evenfallthere isn't a SFOS option for FP2 is there?13:45
r0kk3rzabranson: i guess we will see what this oysters device is like, if its sold outside russia13:46
r0kk3rzevenfall: theres a port for fp2 that works pretty good, first party support is pending13:48
evenfallr0kk3rz: the port is without aliendalvik, I presume13:49
r0kk3rznaturally13:49
evenfallyeah, well13:50
mal-a partially working sfdroid was made though for fp213:50
tadzikfrom what I heard they're planning for "full android support" in the fp2 port13:53
tadzikonce it gets official, of course13:53
tadzikaccording to tweets :)13:53
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mal-tadzik: assuming it gets official13:54
tadzikI'd look up their tweet, but they spam too much and twitter search is garbage :)13:56
tadzikbut it said something along of "we're looking to make android support available to all existing customers" or so13:57
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coderus!seen SfietKonstantin15:34
merbotcoderus: SfietKonstantin was last seen in #jollamobile 7 weeks, 3 days, 23 hours, 49 minutes, and 47 seconds ago: <SfietKonstantin> or do you want to break your device ? :)15:34
coderus!seen SfietKonstantinW15:34
merbotcoderus: SfietKonstantinW was last seen in #jollamobile 3 weeks, 3 days, 19 hours, 39 minutes, and 7 seconds ago: <SfietKonstantinW> wings \o/15:34
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SfietKonstantinWcoderus: ?15:36
SfietKonstantinWtest15:37
coderusSfietKonstantinW: pplz want to update patchmanager with feature to unapply all patches, and master patch for calling this when pressing upgrade sfos button15:37
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SfietKonstantinWcoderus: do you have a pull request ?15:38
mal-seems like patchmanager has some UI issues in 2.0.2, at least on fp2, I got some complain about that, the settings menu has incorrect icon sizes15:38
coderusno, but soon15:38
SfietKonstantinWah ?15:38
SfietKonstantinWok15:38
SfietKonstantinWI need to work on it again15:39
coderusyou should be ready to build and release updated version :D15:39
SfietKonstantinWmal-: will address this issue15:39
SfietKonstantinWcoderus: it is hooked on mer obs15:39
SfietKonstantinWwill publish in openrepos if needed15:39
coderusoh cool, on tags as usual?15:39
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SfietKonstantinWyes15:45
SfietKonstantinWbasically all I need is accept MR15:45
SfietKonstantinWtag15:45
SfietKonstantinWand done15:45
SfietKonstantinW:)15:45
SfietKonstantinWand IIRC you have rights to accept mr and tag15:45
SfietKonstantinWPR15:45
coderusyup15:45
coderusi can also update your package on openrepos :D15:46
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SfietKonstantinWah ?15:52
SfietKonstantinWyou can ?15:53
SfietKonstantinWyou have super mega admin righst ?15:53
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coderuskind of, i know a person who have :)16:01
coderushis number in my speed dial :D16:01
SfietKonstantinW:D16:01
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phlixi_othere is speed dial on irc?17:03
phlixi_o:D17:03
phlixi_ogn8^^17:03
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