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TMavica | I found there is a 'Contact' in facebook setting, but after enabled and go in setting again, it is disabled | 02:00 |
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chriadam | TMavica: bug, we should have removed that one | 03:42 |
chriadam | Facebook removed API support for fetching friends | 03:42 |
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HtheB | Today, none of my Android app started to work on Jolla C | 08:34 |
HtheB | They just spin/load on the cover and nothing happens after that | 08:34 |
HtheB | yes, already rebooted to be sure | 08:34 |
Ingvix | have you checked that the aliendalvik is on? | 08:35 |
HtheB | Ingvix: yes | 08:36 |
HtheB | any way to check from the terminal for errors? | 08:37 |
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HtheB | anyone? | 08:54 |
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till | HtheB for me it sometimes helps to stop and then start android via settings | 09:32 |
till | and you may view debug output via journalctl -f | 09:32 |
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HtheB | till tried 42972987 times already | 10:04 |
HtheB | no luck | 10:04 |
HtheB | ok let me try joirnalctl -f | 10:05 |
HtheB | jounalctl -f | 10:05 |
HtheB | ugh.... | 10:05 |
HtheB | u get my point | 10:05 |
r0kk3rz | there is also logcat somewhere to get more androidy errors | 10:05 |
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chriadam | devel-su chroot /opt/alien /system/bin/logcat | 10:07 |
HtheB | It says: Warning: Activity not started, it's current task has been brought to the front | 10:07 |
HtheB | chriadam: trying out now | 10:08 |
HtheB | ok | 10:11 |
HtheB | I get a lot of errors now | 10:11 |
HtheB | chriadam: is there a way to get this write down into a text file? | 10:18 |
HtheB | like using ">" ? | 10:18 |
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chriadam | does normal pipe not work? | 10:18 |
HtheB | normal pipe? | 10:18 |
HtheB | | ? | 10:18 |
chriadam | e.g., 2>&1 | cat >> log.txt | 10:18 |
HtheB | hmm | 10:18 |
HtheB | let me try | 10:19 |
chriadam | I haven't tried, so it may not | 10:19 |
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chriadam | although I can't think of a reason why it wouldn't | 10:19 |
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PaulePanter | Hi. Anybody at QtCon today or tomorrow? | 13:04 |
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the_mgt | so what is in the updated update? just got a notification | 13:15 |
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till | lte fix for jolla c | 13:18 |
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the_mgt | I don't have a C | 13:20 |
till | me neither, got the update anyway | 13:21 |
r0kk3rz | theres a FB api fix as well, but yeah nothing much to worry about | 13:21 |
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the_mgt | <homer simpson>Boooooring!</homer simpson> | 13:24 |
the_mgt | at least a sign that they are productive | 13:24 |
r0kk3rz | its an EA fix update, why would it be exciting? | 13:27 |
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phlixi_o_ | for some lte is nothing boring at all | 13:41 |
Helle | LTE 800 ? is boring if you don't have 800Mhz licensed in your country ? | 13:42 |
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till | is it possible that in the new release the setting "prefer 4G" in mobile network mode forces the Jolla 1 into 4G mode and prevent it from doing csfb, meaning no calls are possible? | 14:55 |
till | or is my sailfish installation messed up? | 14:55 |
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till | if I set the property "TechnologyPreference" to "any", csfb works, but changing it via the settings app sets it to "lte" without working csfb | 15:03 |
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till | ok, problem solved :) turns out I still had the patched ofono from "more network modes" installed, although I uninstalled the patch | 15:20 |
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friese | well look what the cat dragged in... got an Mail from Turing about a new Phone? https://gallery.mailchimp.com/1d34480bd339567cb5c193ac8/images/e7c4c795-c325-4bee-8458-234b68af2aa2.jpg | 16:41 |
friese | Tbh Spec-Wise sounds way too good - and i idn't even read that much about their first phone being widely released apart from a few people on twitter | 16:42 |
entil | swordfish os with ai features :D | 16:42 |
raa700_ | * | 16:43 |
friese | yeah, buzzword bingo ;) | 16:43 |
friese | most intersting though is the battery, hydrogen fuel cell and 100 wh... well i dont know... | 16:43 |
raa700_ | bullshit | 16:43 |
friese | well, guess thats possible, maybe that thing has the form factor of old nokia/motorola phones with a big box and separate handset ;) | 16:44 |
r0kk3rz | wow turing have gone off the deepend with that one | 16:53 |
friese | when reading the specs it does sound like 2 phones taped together with some gaffa tape, everythings double or quadrupel ;) | 16:55 |
raa700_ | yeah | 16:55 |
r0kk3rz | well it took them like 3 years to release the turing phone, so maybe +3 years to their 'exp. 2017 release' | 16:55 |
friese | probably | 16:56 |
r0kk3rz | and then maybe ok, thats what a phone in 2020 could look like | 16:56 |
friese | though... is the turing phone actually released now? dont know if i could buy one... | 16:56 |
r0kk3rz | not really | 16:56 |
r0kk3rz | but they did release *something* to their backers, and that took 3 years | 16:57 |
friese | i signed up for pre-order in january or sth. like that and apart from that mail just now haven't gotten anything yet | 16:57 |
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r0kk3rz | for all those who pine over smaller phones, Xperia X Compact 4.6" 1080p display http://arstechnica.co.uk/gadgets/2016/09/sonys-xperia-xz-and-x-compact-release-date-price-uk/ | 17:01 |
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friese | seems nice, always kinda liked the xperia line | 17:02 |
friese | right now im using an fairphone 2 but i didn't realize how big a 5" screen is compared to my old jolla, sometimes i do still carry the jolla just cause its smaller | 17:03 |
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r0kk3rz | the fp2 is bulky though | 17:05 |
friese | yeah, though i dont really mind that | 17:06 |
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friese | heck, i'd have my htc dream with extra-large battery rather than that monster - and the fp2 is really slim compared to that | 17:06 |
mal- | which reminds me that I have to disassemble my fp2, some contact problem with microphone | 17:06 |
r0kk3rz | fp2 - hey you can take it apart! - you also have to periodically | 17:07 |
friese | also theres the thing with either sailfish (fine, but sometimes i need android) or android 5.1 (heck, even my htc hd2 from 2009 has android 6 by now...) | 17:07 |
friese | apart from some screen connection issues mine's fine till now, the bumper around the volume keys is starting to wear out though, but that seems to be a common problem | 17:08 |
mal- | friese: what kind of screen connection issues do you have? | 17:09 |
friese | was just one time, guess the pogo connectors didn't fit properly, just slid out the display, cleaned the connectors a bit and that was it | 17:10 |
mal- | ah, ok | 17:10 |
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friese | is that something i should worry about? kinda reminded my of the jolla battery connection issues with the paperstrip-fix, those damn pogo pins ;) | 17:11 |
mal- | I haven't heard there would a common issue with display connection | 17:11 |
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mal- | although I don't follow the fp2 forums that much, just the sailfish threads | 17:13 |
friese | well i look there from time to time, not that much about display issues there... sadly i stilll need android for some stuff, so dualboot it is ;) | 17:15 |
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mal- | sfdroid on fp2 is not yet really working, it can be started sometimes but after that it mostly works, also stability issues sometimes | 17:19 |
friese | sounds great, i'm sure thats fixable | 17:21 |
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attah | Does anyone have LTE working with the Jolla C on 2600 MHz? | 19:16 |
* attah is to lazy to go downtown and check | 19:16 | |
PeperJohnny | My next LTE spot would be 30km away so no :/ | 19:17 |
attah | heh.. and here I'm complaining about only having 10MHz BW at 800MHz :P | 19:20 |
PeperJohnny | :D | 19:21 |
r0kk3rz | attah: how do i tell what band im using? | 19:23 |
r0kk3rz | i have 4g of some description | 19:24 |
attah | r0kk3rz: only way i know how is by AT commands | 19:24 |
r0kk3rz | ofono should say via dbus somehow... | 19:24 |
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attah | haven't seen it.. but then again i haven't explored too much there | 19:25 |
attah | cat /dev/smd7& | 19:25 |
attah | echo -e 'AT$QCRSRQ?\r' > /dev/smd7 | 19:25 |
attah | probably as root on JC | 19:25 |
r0kk3rz | yeah looks like ofono just says 'lte' | 19:29 |
attah | the at command replies with a list with up to 3*3 elements, 2nd element in each triplet is the EARFCN | 19:29 |
r0kk3rz | looks like im on 1392? | 19:33 |
r0kk3rz | with 11315 being the result of the first command | 19:33 |
attah | firs command is just the pis of the cat running in the background | 19:35 |
attah | 1392 puts it in the 1800MHz-band | 19:36 |
r0kk3rz | oh right | 19:36 |
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pdanek | Have you guys seen this? | 19:49 |
pdanek | https://gallery.mailchimp.com/1d34480bd339567cb5c193ac8/images/e7c4c795-c325-4bee-8458-234b68af2aa2.jpg | 19:49 |
pdanek | specs of new Turing Phone for 2017 | 19:49 |
pdanek | Double Qualcomm 830! | 19:50 |
pdanek | I don't know what are these guys smoking | 19:50 |
r0kk3rz | pdanek: we were talking about this earlier | 19:50 |
r0kk3rz | the 'swordfish os' sounds interesting | 19:50 |
pdanek | but I guess they will release it some time around 2019, so the specs might be realistic then :D | 19:50 |
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pdanek | can someone share a link to chat history from #jollamobile please? | 19:51 |
pdanek | I will read what was discussed here :) | 19:51 |
pdanek | quad nano sim | 19:52 |
pdanek | seriously | 19:52 |
pdanek | 60 mp camera | 19:52 |
pdanek | is this hoax? | 19:52 |
pdanek | or is it seriously from them? | 19:52 |
pdanek | oh no wait | 19:53 |
pdanek | I received it from their email | 19:53 |
pdanek | so it's not hoax | 19:53 |
pdanek | :D | 19:53 |
pdanek | how can they get money to fund this? | 19:53 |
pdanek | am I missing something? | 19:53 |
attah | pdanek: Link is in welcome message | 19:57 |
pdanek | attah: sorry, I checked it but missed it before | 19:58 |
pdanek | thanks | 19:58 |
attah | np | 19:58 |
friese | so i'm not the only one that got the link from turing? well let's see how it turns out, i somehow have the feeling that there isn't even a turing company anymore by "2017"... | 19:58 |
pdanek | everyone who subscribed on their web got the link | 19:59 |
pdanek | I'm not even owner of turing phone 1 | 19:59 |
r0kk3rz | well they gotta keep the ponzi scheme going somehow | 20:00 |
attah | The specs are plain ridiculous... | 20:01 |
attah | They better be paying Jolla in advance | 20:03 |
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tbr | people were laughing about more than 2MPixel in a phone and then hyperion came around the corner with 41 Megapixel. That was the 808 pureview... | 20:08 |
attah | sure.. but if it was just one or two things and they had some kind of track record of delivering according to spec... | 20:09 |
r0kk3rz | it does say quad camera, so it might just be 14.5MP per camera | 20:10 |
attah | quite possible | 20:10 |
r0kk3rz | stupid, but totally doable | 20:10 |
attah | i wasn't aware graphene was commercially available in those quantities | 20:10 |
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pp | it took nokia quite a few very smart people to make it work | 20:12 |
pp | and then they went windows and the kernel just couldn't handle it :P | 20:12 |
pdanek | anyone looking forward to Google Daydream? | 20:14 |
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sharpneli | That Turing phone must be a hoax. It reads like 15 year olds wet dream | 20:25 |
pp | hey, they did ship some phones | 20:25 |
pp | well, prototypes that might be iffy to use | 20:26 |
r0kk3rz | well, if you consider weapons with a built in touch screen 'phones' then yeah | 20:27 |
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