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newbie_hi05:51
newbie_anyone here05:51
newbie_Does the whatsapp client Mitaakuulu still work?05:51
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juhajDoes pyotherside run on anroid? I'm contemplating a switch from pyqt5 to pyotherside as pyqt5 does not seem to be around for sailfish any more (not since qt was updated to 5.2 on core SFOS)12:16
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coderusno idea about android, try to google12:42
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AL13Nis there anyone wanting to help translating my app? only 24 strings15:13
AL13Njuhaj: probably only if you can get the qml to work for android15:14
AL13Npyothersides is meant to be used from qml15:14
YanielAL13N: put it up somewhere15:14
AL13NYaniel: https://github.com/alien999999999/harbour-followme15:15
AL13Nthe .ts files in https://github.com/alien999999999/harbour-followme/tree/master/translations15:16
AL13Nif any other translations are wanted, lemme know of do a pull request15:16
Yanielyou might also want to add an "upstream" link to the github repo15:20
Yanieltranslating is much easier when you have context15:20
AL13NYaniel: how do you mean?15:21
YanielI have absolutely no idea what kind of app that is15:22
AL13Nah, but this is my own repos, there is no upstream15:22
AL13Nthis app is for reading comics and manga15:22
AL13N(online or offline fetched from online)15:22
Yanielhence the quotes15:22
AL13Nok15:23
AL13Nhow should i do that?15:23
Yanielin this case it would be whatever service it's meant for15:23
Yanielgoogling "followme" wasn't very helpful15:23
AL13Nright15:23
AL13Nok, so i should make a link in the github page to what?15:23
Yanielis FollowMe some sort of web service?15:24
Yanielif so, link to it15:24
AL13Nor do you mean i should write a better documentation15:24
AL13Nno15:24
AL13Nno webservice15:24
AL13Nah15:24
AL13Nwait i get it15:24
AL13Ni have 4 sources atm15:24
AL13Nyou mean i should link those?15:24
AL13NYaniel: you probably mean i should write the documentation better on the starting page of github15:25
Yanielyes, better documentation would help15:25
Yaniellisting the available sources could be nice, but not that necessary15:26
juhajAL13N: That's what I was afraid of… If I only could get pyqt5 on sfos.…15:27
Yanielbut stuff like "it's a manga reader" and "FollowMe is the name of this standalone app" would be important to know15:28
coderusAL13N: add your translation to transifex, this is common way to get app translated15:28
AL13NYaniel: something like this: https://github.com/alien999999999/harbour-followme ?15:29
Yanielyes15:30
AL13NYaniel: iirc, the .ts file should refer to the sources and those are in the same git repos15:30
Yanieland you might want to change the repo description to something like "A manga reader for SailfishOS"15:30
AL13Ncoderus: seems overkill for a few xml files, but i guess15:30
AL13NYaniel: ok15:31
Yanielcurrently it sounds like you have some service called "FollowMe" to which the app is a client15:31
AL13Nah, i found out what you meant, it's the title above that's editable15:32
AL13NYaniel: is this better?15:32
Yanielyes15:32
AL13NYaniel: thx for all the suggestions15:32
YanielI'd also change that part of the readme15:32
AL13Nok15:33
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Yanielmaybe start with "FollowMe is a manga/comic reader..."15:33
AL13NYaniel: i did something like it15:34
AL13NYaniel: one more question, someone forked it, and has a halfworking implementation for a 5th provider, i would like to add this, but not all of his commits, but i still want his name to be on it, how would i do this?15:36
AL13Nmaybe i should comment on his fork until it's nice and then i he can do a pull request15:36
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Yanielthat's probably easiest15:41
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MelodyPhi21:29
MelodyPis there any way to get facebook messenger working from the native comm app again?21:30
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MelodyPi found a 'facebook messenger account' package, but it won't install21:31
YanielAFAIK facebook has changed or removed that API so no21:32
Yanielunless they decide to create a new public API for it21:32
MelodyPman21:37
MelodyPi hope the next facebook will be more open21:38
MelodyPfacebook as a backend worked great; noone should ever have to open thar god-awful site just to talk to some friends21:39
* Yaniel recommends looking into Matrix21:39
abransonthe phonebook was great. you'd magically get everyone's numbers, emails and profile pictures on the n900.21:42
MelodyPyeah21:44
abransonmaybe the whole app trend wasn't such a good thing after all :)21:46
MelodyPi hate the app trend21:48
MelodyPi wanna work with data, not desiger-of-the-weeks current UI fetish21:49
MelodyPyaniel is there any work for a twlepathy plugin (thats what messages uses, right?)21:51
Yanielthere has been some work on adding matrix support to libpurple AFAIK21:51
Yanielbut turns out libpurple is designed in a way that makes this needlessly difficult21:51
MelodyPwhy use libpurple?21:52
MelodyPwasnt it meant as a transitioning solution between gaim/pidgin and telepathy?21:53
Yanielidk21:53
Yanielbut yes matrix support in telepathy would be awesome21:53
Yaniel(it'd also require some redesigning on the sfos messages app though)21:53
MelodyPid like any foss way to do voip21:54
MelodyPbut messaging is my prime concern21:54
MelodyPits hard to get people to switch, though21:56
MelodyPunless the free alternative is objectively more functional21:56
Yanielalso people tend to use the other interpretation of "free"21:57
MelodyPyeah. im also afraid that people who'll get burned by 'free' services like facebook may distrust free software in the future22:00
MelodyPif you say free, many people either think 'junk' or 'scam' but when you say 'libre' anglophones give you a weird look22:02
MelodyPAnd explaining it just winds up in people saying you're paranoid22:05
MelodyPor even that it's communist and 'would never work'22:06
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juhajIs there a similar directory syncing application for sailfish as filesplys is for meego? I.e. one that syncs a local directory with a webdav one (actually, I would be happy with a sftp or rsync as well)22:48
r0kk3rzjuhaj: ive used syncthing, theres a client on openrepos22:50
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juhajr0kk3rz: Cool. Although I am not happy with adding yet ANOTHER file-syncing service to a list already containing six different services (two private ones, four imposed by work)22:53
juhajBut I'll take a look22:53
r0kk3rzheh22:55
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r0kk3rzcargodock might also be what you're looking for22:56
r0kk3rzjuhaj: looks like cargo dock on store does webdav if that suits better22:57
juhajIt does not sync directories22:59
juhajIt is simply like an ftp client22:59
juhajto webdav22:59
r0kk3rzoh right, ive never used it22:59
juhajfilesplus on meego did the thing, and owncloud on android, but for some reason there's no such thing for sfos23:00
juhajI am tempted to install android owncloud client, but that seems wrong23:00
phlixi_i thought there is an app to sync an oc folder23:01
juhajI would have thought so, too, but cannot find one23:01
phlixi_its been a while since i searched for oc stuff, but iirc there is a solution23:01
Yanielsyncthing <323:01
phlixi_i realised i dont actually need the folders on my phone synced all the tim, and if i need someting, i use the web interface of oc, that means once evers two months or so... and half of the tim eits pictures, they are displayed okish in the webinterface23:03
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