| xenial-user | morning | 06:28 |
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| Gabrielx | Hello there | 06:32 |
| rainemak | good morning | 06:33 |
| Fubo | #info Johannes Fuchs - community | 06:57 |
| rainemak | Fubo, meeting will start soon | 06:58 |
| ExTechOp | Good morning, everyone! | 06:59 |
| direc85[m] | Good morning! | 06:59 |
| rainemak | morning | 06:59 |
| Fubo | morning | 06:59 |
| rainemak | #startmeeting Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 17th Aug 2023 | 07:00 |
| sailbot | Meeting started Thu Aug 17 07:00:08 2023 UTC. The chair is rainemak. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 07:00 |
| sailbot | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 07:00 |
| rainemak | #info Meeting information and agenda can be found here: | 07:00 |
| rainemak | #link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-irc-17th-august-2023/15962 | 07:00 |
| rainemak | I am the meeting's chairperson today, and will be doing my best to keep time and order. Please respect the timings and bee-hive. | 07:00 |
| rainemak | #topic Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with #info | 07:00 |
| b100dian | Morning | 07:00 |
| ExTechOp | #info Otto Mäkelä, community | 07:00 |
| rainemak | morning b100dian | 07:01 |
| b100dian | #info Vlad G, community | 07:01 |
| Fubo | #info Johannes Fuchs - community | 07:01 |
| rainemak | #info Raine Mäkeläinen, sailor @ Jolla, chairperson today | 07:01 |
| direc85[m] | #info Matti Viljanen, community | 07:01 |
| *** ChanServ sets mode: +o sailbot | 07:01 | |
| sebix[m] | #info sebix, community | 07:01 |
| xenial-user | #info xenial-user - lurker | 07:01 |
| Keto | #info Pami Ketolainen, sailor @ Jolla | 07:04 |
| rainemak | We have only one topic today and let's get move to that one soon. We were fine to take it even though it arrived a bit late. | 07:05 |
| rainemak | #topic Helping with Community OBS (10 mins -- asked by vlagged[m] / b100dian) | 07:05 |
| *** sailbot changes topic to "Helping with Community OBS (10 mins -- asked by vlagged[m] / b100dian) (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 17th Aug 2023)" | 07:05 | |
| rainemak | #info <vlagged[m] / b100dian> The current build time for some projects (qt5.15, nodejs) may take a | 07:05 |
| rainemak | #info <vlagged[m] / b100dian> full day on ARM slaves. Is there anything the community can help with, like making more build | 07:05 |
| rainemak | #info <vlagged[m] / b100dian> slaves available? Alternatively, is setting up another OBS instance something Jolla can help with | 07:05 |
| rainemak | #info <vlagged[m] / b100dian> configuring? | 07:06 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> Thank you for raising this issue. | 07:06 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> We briefly discussed qt5.15 issue earlier but unfortunately, we do not have a proposal yet. Need more investigation. | 07:06 |
| b100dian | So, to be clear, there was more to this question - like if community can participate with hardware. | 07:07 |
| b100dian | Not sure this was explained clearly | 07:07 |
| rainemak | It was clear enough. Thank you for your clarification. | 07:08 |
| b100dian | Ok, thanks for confirming | 07:08 |
| sebix[m] | Is that the complete answer? | 07:08 |
| rainemak | My personal take is that let's say Qt5.15 should really take full day with whatever HW | 07:08 |
| rainemak | sebix[m], yes | 07:08 |
| b100dian | That is correct, but a such build time easily beats any network lag, so in this case it should be possible to add machines from far away somehow | 07:09 |
| rainemak | No comments / updates regarding how could community help / participate | 07:09 |
| Keto | is it a problem where more hardare would help? | 07:11 |
| b100dian | In general when a chum build is happening, it might be difficult to build something else | 07:12 |
| b100dian | indeed that is a transient state, which does not happen that often now | 07:12 |
| Keto | right | 07:13 |
| rainemak | correcting myself whilst probably was clear... building Qt5.15 shouldn't take full day | 07:13 |
| rainemak | b100dian, noted by Jolla. let's think what can be done. | 07:14 |
| b100dian | thank you | 07:14 |
| rainemak | Maybe it's time to move on | 07:14 |
| rainemak | #topic Untracked bug reports (5 min -- asked by pherjung) | 07:15 |
| *** sailbot changes topic to "Untracked bug reports (5 min -- asked by pherjung) (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 17th Aug 2023)" | 07:15 | |
| rainemak | #info <pherjung> Untracked bug reports | 07:15 |
| rainemak | #link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-irc-17th-august-2023/15962/2 | 07:15 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> The Community Bug Coordination Team have done a superb job once again this fortnight. | 07:15 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> Unfortunately we didn't manage to check these after summer vacation period which is still ongoing. | 07:16 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> We'll comment results to the forum post later this week. Thank you for your understanding. | 07:16 |
| rainemak | I'm not sure if pherjung[m] is around to comment? | 07:17 |
| rainemak | Time to move on | 07:19 |
| rainemak | #topic Open PR discussion (5 mins -- asked by jolla / b100dian) | 07:20 |
| *** sailbot changes topic to "Open PR discussion (5 mins -- asked by jolla / b100dian) (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 17th Aug 2023)" | 07:20 | |
| ExTechOp | I think most of us would want to know have there been any developments on the funding and ownership front that could be shared here? | 07:20 |
| rainemak | let's say for a moment on a topic. generic is coming. | 07:20 |
| rainemak | let's stay for a moment on a topic. generic is coming. | 07:20 |
| rainemak | #info <b100dian> Open PR URL: Buffers are not always recycled automatically by b100dian | 07:21 |
| rainemak | #link https://github.com/sailfishos/droidmedia/pull/111 | 07:21 |
| ExTechOp | Oops, sorry, I read that as "Open discussions" | 07:21 |
| rainemak | #info <b100dian> The PR solves a situation observed on Zenfone 8, port based on lineage-18.1, and video playback - | 07:21 |
| rainemak | #info <b100dian> with new media buffers coming in with the same slot as existing ones, but without recycling old buffers | 07:21 |
| rainemak | #info <b100dian> (they should have been null if they were recycled). The PR tracks the old buffers and the memory | 07:21 |
| rainemak | #info <b100dian> pointing at them, and does two things: releases old buffers ASAP and reclaims memory only when the | 07:21 |
| rainemak | #info <b100dian> client (gecko-camera, gst-droid) is not using them anymore. | 07:21 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> We'll try to find somebody to review this. Thank you for your contribution. | 07:21 |
| b100dian | thank you. I'm available if there are questions | 07:22 |
| rainemak | thank you for that b100dian | 07:22 |
| rainemak | questions/comments should be written down to the PR as usual | 07:23 |
| rainemak | ^ as well | 07:23 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> Any open PRs to discuss? | 07:23 |
| direc85[m] | How device/port specific that issue is? Is it possible that some other device unknowingly benefits from the PR? | 07:23 |
| rainemak | let's cover direc85[m] 's question first before moving to "any open PRs to discuss?" | 07:24 |
| b100dian | It is. I think it is specific to media handling in Android CCodec, with newer (>=Lineage 18.1/AOSP 11) ports | 07:24 |
| b100dian | I have read about a possible playback error on Volla 22 (I think?) but maybe it is not related | 07:25 |
| b100dian | However, the PR should not bring any material change to device behaving as before | 07:25 |
| rainemak | there are also still some async issues in the video playback | 07:25 |
| rainemak | I guess there are no other PRs to discuss | 07:26 |
| rainemak | #info Maybe worth noting that we're review Qt6 PRs that community has created | 07:27 |
| rainemak | Let's move on to the general discussion. | 07:27 |
| rainemak | #topic General discussion (20 min) | 07:27 |
| *** sailbot changes topic to "General discussion (20 min) (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 17th Aug 2023)" | 07:27 | |
| ExTechOp | Again: I think most of us would want to know have there been any developments on the funding and ownership front that could be shared here? | 07:27 |
| flypig | #info David Llewellyn-Jones - community (sorry for the late entry) | 07:27 |
| rainemak | ExTechOp, no comments at this stage. | 07:28 |
| ExTechOp | Sigh | 07:28 |
| rainemak | good morning flypig | 07:28 |
| Nico | I just wanted to mention that so far my Sailfish device has been working great on the chaos camp including their custom GSM network (just no VoLTE, but I am not sure if they even have that) | 07:28 |
| flypig | Good morning :) | 07:28 |
| Nico | #info Nico - community | 07:28 |
| rainemak | Nico, pleased to hear | 07:30 |
| flypig | Nico, could you share a link to the camp? | 07:31 |
| rainemak | yes please! :-) | 07:31 |
| Nico | Uhm, let me look, I always struggle to find the right page, but I probably can find the blog... | 07:31 |
| rainemak | no worries if you don't find it | 07:32 |
| Nico | Chaos camp blog with details: https://events.ccc.de/camp/ | 07:33 |
| Nico | Or maybe that is the start page rather :D | 07:33 |
| rainemak | #info <Nico> Chaos camp blog with details https://events.ccc.de/camp/ | 07:34 |
| rainemak | One very interesting development related thingie is that flypig has started looking into newer gecko engine. I bet that at point he'd appreciate if others would contribute as well. | 07:36 |
| Nico | Nice | 07:37 |
| rainemak | First stages are problematic to distribute for multiple developers as he needs to get it building first. | 07:37 |
| rainemak | but I do know that he has right kind of knowledge for this | 07:38 |
| b100dian | Great to hear! Is that started in the gecko-dev fork? Is it needing a rust update? | 07:38 |
| rainemak | let's see if flypig himself is able to comment on this | 07:39 |
| rainemak | personally I'd definitely would like to give a look to this. | 07:39 |
| flypig | Sorry, I have an intermittent connection. | 07:41 |
| rainemak | no worries | 07:41 |
| flypig | So far, I've not hit antyneed for a rust update, but it might come. | 07:42 |
| direc85[m] | The Sailfish OS Rust repo is at 1.61: https://github.com/sailfishos/rust | 07:42 |
| direc85[m] | Which is a great upgrade over 1.52, which doesn't support Rust Edition 2021. | 07:43 |
| flypig | Once it's building, I'd love help. I'm putting info here: https://www.flypig.co.uk/gecko | 07:43 |
| direc85[m] | Thank you flypig! | 07:43 |
| flypig | Thanks :) I could do with your help with rust info direc85[m] :) | 07:44 |
| rainemak | flypig, once you're done. I'd like to document your findings docs.sailfishos.org as well. | 07:45 |
| rainemak | great stuff! | 07:45 |
| rainemak | documenting to docs.sailfishos.org together with you of course (and that goes without saying) | 07:46 |
| rainemak | let's move on | 07:46 |
| flypig | That sounds good rainemak, although right now it's all very similar to ESR 78 (which is good in my opinion), so not much to add yet :) | 07:46 |
| rainemak | I'm thinking more about the process | 07:46 |
| rainemak | as you happen to take notes | 07:47 |
| flypig | Oh, yes, excellent! | 07:47 |
| rainemak | only few Sailors have "notes" regarding this :-) | 07:47 |
| flypig | I'm following yours, he he:) | 07:48 |
| rainemak | #topic Next meeting time and date (5 min) | 07:49 |
| *** sailbot changes topic to "Next meeting time and date (5 min) (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 17th Aug 2023)" | 07:49 | |
| rainemak | Proposing Thursday 31st August at 07:00am UTC. | 07:49 |
| flypig | Sounds good, for what it's worth :) | 07:50 |
| rainemak | How does that sound like? Back to bi-weekly schedule that is. | 07:50 |
| ExTechOp | Works4me. | 07:50 |
| flypig | It'll be nice to have the meetings running again. | 07:51 |
| rainemak | settled then | 07:51 |
| rainemak | #info Next meeting will be held on Thursday 31st August 2023 at 07:00am UTC: 2023-08-31T0700Z | 07:51 |
| rainemak | Thank you everyone for the meeting! | 07:51 |
| xenial-user | thx all | 07:52 |
| rainemak | Hope everybody have had chance to relax and recharge during summer time. | 07:52 |
| flypig | Thanks rainemak, all! | 07:52 |
| rainemak | #endmeeting | 07:52 |
| sailbot | Meeting ended Thu Aug 17 07:52:51 2023 UTC. | 07:52 |
| sailbot | Minutes: https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2023/sailfishos-meeting.2023-08-17-07.00.html | 07:52 |
| sailbot | Minutes (text): https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2023/sailfishos-meeting.2023-08-17-07.00.txt | 07:52 |
| sailbot | Log: https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2023/sailfishos-meeting.2023-08-17-07.00.log.html | 07:52 |
| *** sailbot changes topic to "Next meeting will be held on Thursday 17th August 2023 at 07:00am UTC. Topics can be made/read here: https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-irc-17th-august-2023/15962" | 07:52 | |
| ExTechOp | Thank you everyone! | 07:53 |
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