*** rainemak_ is now known as rainemak | 06:03 | |
Crabster | morning | 06:47 |
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Solrac[m] | Morning | 06:54 |
ExTechOp | Good morning, everyone! | 06:59 |
rainemak | good morning | 06:59 |
rainemak | #startmeeting Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 31st Aug 2023 | 06:59 |
sailbot | Meeting started Thu Aug 31 06:59:43 2023 UTC. The chair is rainemak. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 06:59 |
sailbot | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 06:59 |
rainemak | bit too fast :-) | 06:59 |
rainemak | #info Meeting information and agenda can be found here: | 07:00 |
rainemak | #link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-irc-31st-august-2023/16524 | 07:00 |
rainemak | I am the meeting's chairperson today, and will be doing my best to keep time and order. Please respect the timings and bee-hive. | 07:00 |
rainemak | #topic Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with #info | 07:00 |
Crabster | #info Crabster - lurker | 07:01 |
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flypig_ | Not lurking any more :) | 07:02 |
ExTechOp | #info Otto Mäkelä, community | 07:02 |
flypig_ | #info David Llewellyn-Jones, community | 07:02 |
Crabster | trying to ;) | 07:02 |
rainemak | #info Raine Mäkeläinen, sailor @ Jolla, chairperson today | 07:03 |
rainemak | #info No questions raised for today's meeting | 07:05 |
ExTechOp | (wot, are we four the only ones actually here even with 78 people in the room?) | 07:05 |
rainemak | Seems so ExTechOp | 07:06 |
flypig_ | Lots of lurkers? ;) | 07:07 |
Keto | o/ | 07:07 |
flypig_ | :D | 07:07 |
rainemak | Do we have pherjung[m] available? Would you like to say something about bug reports? | 07:08 |
rainemak | I'll wait for a moment... If no replies then, let's move on directly to discuss about open PRs | 07:09 |
rainemak | #topic Open PR discussion (5 mins -- asked by jolla) | 07:10 |
*** sailbot changes topic to "Open PR discussion (5 mins -- asked by jolla) (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 31st Aug 2023)" | 07:10 | |
rainemak | #info <Jolla> Any open PRs to discuss? | 07:10 |
rainemak | Nothing it seems. | 07:13 |
flypig_ | This isn't an OpenPR, but mal and I talked about updating the linux kernel header package. But maybe I can turn that into a proper question for the next meeting. | 07:14 |
rainemak | flypig_, proper questions for the next meeting sounds good | 07:14 |
rainemak | thanks | 07:14 |
flypig_ | (I had planned to but didn't get around to it). | 07:14 |
rainemak | #info Please raise PRs if there are some. You can also ping me on the #sailfishos channel if a PR needs to be reviewed. | 07:14 |
flypig_ | Okay, will do! | 07:15 |
rainemak | Let's move on | 07:15 |
rainemak | #topic General discussion (30 min) | 07:15 |
*** sailbot changes topic to "General discussion (30 min) (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 31st Aug 2023)" | 07:15 | |
rainemak | flypig_, would you like to give a status update regarding esr91 work? | 07:16 |
rainemak | there's a great amount interest in forum thread as well | 07:16 |
flypig_ | Sure happy to :) | 07:16 |
flypig_ | Lots of people in that thread and elsewhere have been helping, which is great to see. | 07:17 |
flypig_ | Most recently direc85[m] started looking into a rare gcc compiler bug that seems to be triggering. | 07:17 |
flypig_ | https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=90075 | 07:18 |
flypig_ | But overall, the build is progressing gradually but not quickly. Upstream removed GLScreenBuffer support, which is causing me problems right now. | 07:18 |
flypig_ | Other than that, I'm hoping to get a built (not working) library in the future (which is as precise as I'm willing to get!). | 07:19 |
rainemak | #info Lots of people in forum thread and elsewhere have been helping with flypig_ on esr91 work , which is great to see. | 07:19 |
rainemak | #info Lots of people in forum thread and elsewhere have been helping flypig_ on esr91 work , which is great to see. | 07:20 |
Crabster | cool | 07:20 |
rainemak | flypig_, we could utilize for example sailfish-browser or gecko-dev github.com/sailfishos issues for tracking issues if you like | 07:21 |
rainemak | maybe that way we could draw even more devs to join | 07:21 |
flypig_ | That's an excellent idea. There are a number of issues that I've worked around (not fixed); I can add them there. Which would you prefer? | 07:22 |
flypig_ | gecko-dev or sailfish-browser? | 07:22 |
rainemak | sailfish-browser has most followers in github | 07:22 |
flypig_ | Okay I'll add unfixed issues to sailfish-browser for tracking. | 07:23 |
rainemak | gecko-dev: 13 forks, 6 stars | 07:23 |
rainemak | sailfish-browser: 89 forks, 289 stars | 07:23 |
flypig_ | Wow, surprising difference. | 07:24 |
rainemak | gecko-dev is much more difficult than browser | 07:24 |
ExTechOp | flypig_ looking at your developer diary, did the day 14 build go through? | 07:25 |
rainemak | flypig_, Thank you. Let's adjust as esr91 work proceeds | 07:25 |
flypig_ | ExTechOp, you'll have to wait for the next update :) | 07:25 |
rainemak | I have one question regarding cbindgen | 07:25 |
ExTechOp | flypig_ I can barely contain my excitement. | 07:26 |
flypig_ | Haha :) | 07:26 |
rainemak | flypig_, did you check vendor submodule versions ( from the Cargo.toml? ) | 07:27 |
flypig_ | rainemak, in a word: no. Could you elaborate on why that's important? | 07:28 |
flypig_ | (all I checked is that we're using a version greater than 5; I think we're on 14) | 07:28 |
rainemak | I recall that we did it so in the past that we first compared Cargo.toml versions. Then from actual git repositories checked the sha1 on that particular version and updated all of them | 07:28 |
flypig_ | Okay; that may be something that still needs doing then. | 07:29 |
rainemak | yeap, and for that kind of things issue tracking would be good as well | 07:29 |
flypig_ | Understood and noted! I must apologise as my train is pulling in to King's Cross. I'll have to drop off the meeting. | 07:30 |
ExTechOp | Thanks for this! | 07:30 |
rainemak | flypig_, thank you! | 07:30 |
flypig_ | Thanks ExTechOp :) | 07:30 |
rainemak | Great work! Very nice to see this kind of support from everybody | 07:30 |
rainemak | one thing that I almost forgot | 07:34 |
gabrielventur | Hey there, do it's too late for the meeting? | 07:34 |
ExTechOp | Slightly, as it looks like we're having a short meeting today. We're now in general discussion. | 07:35 |
gabrielventur | ah all right | 07:36 |
gabrielventur | Anyway | 07:37 |
gabrielventur | I wanted to ask if the Xperia 10 III is going to stereo sound and support in jolla camera for all its cameras :) | 07:37 |
rainemak | #info <Jolla> We're targeting to restart "Community news" bi-weekly newsletters next week. Discussed & synced this earlier with community members who are contributing to it - like flypig_ . | 07:38 |
gabrielventur | Good news then | 07:38 |
Crabster | looking fwd to it | 07:42 |
rainemak | gabrielventur, camera to work completely probably not but regarding it you can enable all cameras but then you'd loose front facing camera | 07:43 |
rainemak | gabrielventur, maybe worth trying if that's good option for you | 07:44 |
rainemak | personally I'm using my xperia 10 III that way | 07:44 |
ExTechOp | rainemak What is involved in this change, is it explained on the forum? | 07:44 |
rainemak | https://docs.sailfishos.org/Support/Help_Articles/Camera/#multiple-cameras-of-xperia-10-iii | 07:44 |
rainemak | #info Help article link regarding how to enable multiple cameras for Xperia 10 III | 07:45 |
rainemak | #link https://docs.sailfishos.org/Support/Help_Articles/Camera/#multiple-cameras-of-xperia-10-iii | 07:45 |
ExTechOp | Thanks! | 07:45 |
rainemak | gabrielventur, afaik xperia 10 III doesn't stereo speaker : https://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_10_iii-review-2277p6.php | 07:46 |
rainemak | doesn't have | 07:46 |
rainemak | let's move on | 07:47 |
rainemak | #topic Next meeting time and date (5 min) | 07:47 |
*** sailbot changes topic to "Next meeting time and date (5 min) (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 31st Aug 2023)" | 07:47 | |
rainemak | Proposing Thursday 14th September at 07:00am UTC. | 07:47 |
ExTechOp | works4me | 07:48 |
Crabster | 14th is fine | 07:48 |
rainemak | settled then | 07:48 |
rainemak | #info Next meeting will be held on Thursday 14th September 2023 at 07:00am UTC: 2023-09-14T0700Z | 07:48 |
rainemak | That's it! Thank you everybody for the meeting! | 07:49 |
ExTechOp | Thank you, everybody! | 07:49 |
rainemak | #endmeeting | 07:49 |
sailbot | Meeting ended Thu Aug 31 07:49:47 2023 UTC. | 07:49 |
sailbot | Minutes: https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2023/sailfishos-meeting.2023-08-31-06.59.html | 07:49 |
sailbot | Minutes (text): https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2023/sailfishos-meeting.2023-08-31-06.59.txt | 07:49 |
sailbot | Log: https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2023/sailfishos-meeting.2023-08-31-06.59.log.html | 07:49 |
*** sailbot changes topic to "Next meeting will be held on Thursday 17th August 2023 at 07:00am UTC. Topics can be made/read here: https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-irc-17th-august-2023/15962" | 07:49 | |
Crabster | thx #? | 07:50 |
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