Thursday, 2023-08-31

*** rainemak_ is now known as rainemak06:03
ExTechOpGood morning, everyone!06:59
rainemakgood morning06:59
rainemak#startmeeting Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 31st Aug 202306:59
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rainemakbit too fast :-)06:59
rainemak#info Meeting information and agenda can be found here:07:00
rainemakI am the meeting's chairperson today, and will be doing my best to keep time and order. Please respect the timings and bee-hive.07:00
rainemak#topic Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with #info07:00
Crabster#info Crabster - lurker07:01
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flypig_Not lurking any more :)07:02
ExTechOp#info Otto Mäkelä, community07:02
flypig_#info David Llewellyn-Jones, community07:02
Crabstertrying to ;)07:02
rainemak#info Raine Mäkeläinen, sailor @ Jolla, chairperson today07:03
rainemak#info No questions raised for today's meeting07:05
ExTechOp(wot, are we four the only ones actually here even with 78 people in the room?)07:05
rainemakSeems so ExTechOp07:06
flypig_Lots of lurkers? ;)07:07
rainemakDo we have pherjung[m] available? Would you like to say something about bug reports?07:08
rainemakI'll wait for a moment... If no replies then, let's move on directly to discuss about open PRs07:09
rainemak#topic Open PR discussion (5 mins -- asked by jolla)07:10
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rainemak#info <Jolla> Any open PRs to discuss?07:10
rainemakNothing it seems.07:13
flypig_This isn't an OpenPR, but mal and I talked about updating the linux kernel header package. But maybe I can turn that into a proper question for the next meeting.07:14
rainemakflypig_, proper questions for the next meeting sounds good07:14
flypig_(I had planned to but didn't get around to it).07:14
rainemak#info Please raise PRs if there are some. You can also ping me on the #sailfishos channel if a PR needs to be reviewed.07:14
flypig_Okay, will do!07:15
rainemakLet's move on07:15
rainemak#topic General discussion (30 min)07:15
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rainemakflypig_, would you like to give a status update regarding esr91 work?07:16
rainemakthere's a great amount interest in forum thread as well07:16
flypig_Sure happy to :)07:16
flypig_Lots of people in that thread and elsewhere have been helping, which is great to see.07:17
flypig_Most recently direc85[m] started looking into a rare gcc compiler bug that seems to be triggering.07:17
flypig_But overall, the build is progressing gradually but not quickly. Upstream removed GLScreenBuffer support, which is causing me problems right now.07:18
flypig_Other than that, I'm hoping to get a built (not working) library in the future (which is as precise as I'm willing to get!).07:19
rainemak#info Lots of people in forum thread and elsewhere have been helping with flypig_ on esr91 work , which is great to see.07:19
rainemak#info Lots of people in forum thread and elsewhere have been helping flypig_ on esr91 work , which is great to see.07:20
rainemakflypig_, we could utilize for example sailfish-browser or gecko-dev issues for tracking issues if you like07:21
rainemakmaybe that way we could draw even more devs to join07:21
flypig_That's an excellent idea. There are a number of issues that I've worked around (not fixed); I can add them there. Which would you prefer?07:22
flypig_gecko-dev or sailfish-browser?07:22
rainemaksailfish-browser has most followers in github07:22
flypig_Okay I'll add unfixed issues to sailfish-browser for tracking.07:23
rainemakgecko-dev: 13 forks, 6 stars07:23
rainemaksailfish-browser: 89 forks, 289 stars07:23
flypig_Wow, surprising difference.07:24
rainemakgecko-dev is much more difficult than browser07:24
ExTechOpflypig_ looking at your developer diary, did the day 14 build go through?07:25
rainemakflypig_, Thank you. Let's adjust as esr91 work proceeds07:25
flypig_ExTechOp, you'll have to wait for the next update :)07:25
rainemakI have one question regarding cbindgen07:25
ExTechOpflypig_ I can barely contain my excitement.07:26
flypig_Haha :)07:26
rainemakflypig_, did you check vendor submodule versions ( from the Cargo.toml? )07:27
flypig_rainemak, in a word: no. Could you elaborate on why that's important?07:28
flypig_(all I checked is that we're using a version greater than 5; I think we're on 14)07:28
rainemakI recall that we did it so in the past that we first compared Cargo.toml versions. Then from actual git repositories checked the sha1 on that particular version and updated all of them07:28
flypig_Okay; that may be something that still needs doing then.07:29
rainemakyeap, and for that kind of things issue tracking would be good as well07:29
flypig_Understood and noted! I must apologise as my train is pulling in to King's Cross. I'll have to drop off the meeting.07:30
ExTechOpThanks for this!07:30
rainemakflypig_, thank you!07:30
flypig_Thanks ExTechOp :)07:30
rainemakGreat work! Very nice to see this kind of support from everybody07:30
rainemakone thing that I almost forgot07:34
gabrielventurHey there, do it's too late for the meeting?07:34
ExTechOpSlightly, as it looks like we're having a short meeting today. We're now in general discussion.07:35
gabrielventurah all right07:36
gabrielventurI wanted to ask if the Xperia 10 III is going to stereo sound and support in jolla camera for all its cameras :)07:37
rainemak#info <Jolla> We're targeting to restart "Community news" bi-weekly newsletters next week. Discussed & synced this earlier with community members who are contributing to it - like flypig_ .07:38
gabrielventurGood news then07:38
Crabsterlooking fwd to it07:42
rainemakgabrielventur, camera to work completely probably not but regarding it you can enable all cameras but then you'd loose front facing camera07:43
rainemakgabrielventur, maybe worth trying if that's good option for you07:44
rainemakpersonally I'm using my xperia 10 III that way07:44
ExTechOprainemak What is involved in this change, is it explained on the forum?07:44
rainemak#info Help article link regarding how to enable multiple cameras for Xperia 10 III07:45
rainemakgabrielventur, afaik xperia 10 III doesn't stereo speaker :
rainemakdoesn't have07:46
rainemaklet's move on07:47
rainemak#topic Next meeting time and date (5 min)07:47
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rainemakProposing Thursday 14th September at 07:00am UTC.07:47
Crabster14th is fine07:48
rainemaksettled then07:48
rainemak#info Next meeting will be held on Thursday 14th September 2023 at 07:00am UTC: 2023-09-14T0700Z07:48
rainemakThat's it! Thank you everybody for the meeting!07:49
ExTechOpThank you, everybody!07:49
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