Thursday, 2023-10-12

flypigGood morning!06:52
rainemakGood morning!06:55
ExTechOpGood morning, everyone!06:56
longbluesky[m]Good morning!06:56
rainemak#startmeeting Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 12th Oct 202307:00
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rainemak#info Meeting information and agenda can be found here:07:00
rainemakI am the meeting's chairperson today, and will be doing my best to keep time and order. Please respect the timings and bee-hive.07:00
rainemak#topic Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with #info07:00
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flypig#info David Llewellyn-Jones, community07:01
Crabster#info Crabster - lurker07:01
rainemak#info Raine Mäkeläinen, sailor @ Jolla, chairperson today07:03
sebix[m]#info Sebix, community07:03
rainemaklooks like this one is going to community :-)07:05
sebix[m]very quiet today :/07:05
rainemakit seems so07:05
rainemak#topic Jolla and Sailfish OS at FOSDEM (10mins -- asked by flypig)07:05
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pherjung[m]#info pherjung, community07:06
rainemak#info <flypig> Some details about the topic: FOSDEM is scheduled for 3-4 February07:06
rainemak#info <flypig> 2024 in Brussels. Last year Jolla got a great reaction on the Linux07:06
rainemak#info <flypig> on Mobile stand alongside a number of other Mobile Linux07:06
rainemak#info <flypig> distributions. As there are plans for the stand to run again in07:06
rainemak#info <flypig> 2024, are any Sailors planning to attend and, if so, would they07:06
rainemak#info <flypig> be interested to help with the stand either officially or07:06
rainemak#info <flypig> unofficially? The stand CfP was recently released; deadline for07:06
rainemak#info <flypig> submissions is 8th December.07:06
rainemak#info <Jolla> Thank you flypig! This is a good reminder. However, we have not07:06
rainemak#info <Jolla> planed this. We'll write down the deadline.07:06
ExTechOp#info Otto Mäkelä, community07:07
ExTechOp(sorry about the delay)07:07
rainemakI'm not aware whether there are sailors planning to attend07:07
rainemakExTechOp, no problem07:07
rainemakwelcome pherjung[m] as well07:07
flypigThanks rainemak! Just for some additional info, it looks like the Linux on Mobile stand will go ahead (Mobian, Postmarket, SFOS + others).07:08
flypigIf any sailors from Jolla are attending, or if anyone from the community would like to help, then that would be really great. Let me know and I can put you in touch.07:08
rainemakMeaning similar setup as last year07:08
flypigIt's looking that way yes. There may be some changes because there was so little space last year. And it has to be accepted too!07:09
flypig(accepted by the FOSDEM committee).07:09
flypigAlso, I'm certainly hoping to attend myself, so looking forward to meeting other Sailfish OS users there!07:10
rainemakIt was a great event last time.07:11
rainemak+ Sailfish OS meetup07:11
rainemakor dinner I should say07:11
flypigYes, I really enjoyed it too, there was a great Sailfish contingent there.07:12
abryeah, was great fun last year07:13
abr#info Andrew Branson, latecomer07:13
rainemakWe don't have other topics. I took liberty to handle thigg's question in context of open PR discussion07:13
flypigThanks rainemak, that answers my question. Please encourage everyone to go ;)07:14
rainemakLet's move on07:15
rainemak#topic Open PR discussion (10 mins -- asked by jolla, thigg, flypig)07:15
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rainemak#info Let's handle thigg's open issue here as well07:15
rainemak#info <flypig> Closed PR URL: [nspr] Update to NSPR 4.35 RTM by llewelld · Pull Request #3 · sailfishos/nspr · GitHub07:15
rainemak#info <flypig> Not an open PR but a closed one. Just taking the opportunity to thank @mal for his fast turnaround checking and merging it.07:15
flypigThere's no action on this one, except to recognise mal's excellent work.07:15
rainemak#info <thigg> Open issue: pausing notifications · Issue #73 · nemomobile-ux/lipstick · GitHub07:17
rainemak#info <thigg> I’d like to know what you think of it.07:17
rainemak#info <Jolla> Report looks good. We just opened issues section to
rainemak#info <Jolla> Would be good to clone issue there as well.07:17
rainemak#info <Jolla> Like commented last time, not bad idea at all. How it is implemented07:17
rainemak#info <Jolla> is another topic.07:17
rainemakHas this raised any further thoughts?07:18
flypigCan someone remind me: does this need changes only in open source components? (sorry; I know we discussed this previously).07:21
rainemakI believe that it requires lipstick-jolla-home changes as well.07:22
flypigUnderstood; thanks!07:22
rainemakMaybe hackable from lipstick - not sure.07:22
dcaliste#info Damien Caliste, sorry very late07:23
flypigBut it does look like there are open-source changes that could be made independently to lipstick, for example, to help support the ljh changes.07:23
rainemakthis looks to be covered already07:24
rainemakso let's move on07:24
rainemak#info <Jolla> Any other open PRs to discuss?07:24
rainemakafair last time we sorted out some PRs during the meeting :-)07:25
rainemakwe can come back to other PRs on generic discussion at the end07:26
rainemak#topic Untracked bug reports (5 min -- asked by pherjung)07:26
rainemak#info <pherjung> Untracked bug reports07:26
rainemak#info <Jolla> As always, the Community Bug Coordination Team have done a superb job.07:26
rainemak#info <Jolla> As a result of their work, we now have:07:26
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rainemak#info <Jolla> 9 high quality bug reports now recorded internally and tagged as "tracked".07:26
rainemak#info <Jolla> 1 bug waiting for more input.07:26
rainemak this is looks be triggering still07:28
dcalisterainemak, about this one: I'll give a look later today or tomorrow on the alarm not working for recurring events without end.07:28
rainemaksame timing :-)07:28
dcalisteI'll see if I can reproduce and will report there.07:28
rainemakthank you dcaliste07:28
dcalisteActually the master branch has a completely rewritten handle of the recurring alarms, so it may work on master while still being broken on Or broken on both. I'll see.07:30
rainemakyeah, master is quite far. do you think it'd be possible to "merge" master to upgrade-4.5.0?07:31
rainemaki.e. are there much changes on the upper layers of the stack07:31
rainemakI know that technically rebase or merge for mkcal is not a big deal07:32
dcalisteIndeed, I need to check in nemo-qml-plugin-calendar. Doing it at the moment…07:34
dcalisteFor instance, there is
dcalisteChecking if mkcal contains this change for instance…07:35
rainemakupdating nemo-qml-plugin-calendar could be doable07:36
rainemakas well07:36
dcalisteWhich may have incidence on jolla-calendar. Checking also…07:37
dcalisteYeh, this commit 7d016719 there is a large API change. Which requires to upgrade mkcal, nemo-qml-plugin-calendar and jolla-calendar in accordance.07:39
dcalisteBut to be back on the issue reported on forum, I'll see if a fix can be done in upgrade-4.5.0 branch and see if this fix need to be propagated to master.07:40
rainemakthank you07:40
rainemakLet's move on to the general discussion.07:40
rainemak#topic General discussion (5 min)07:40
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rainemakflypig, do you have any updates on the esr91 work other than your diary?07:41
flypigIt continues :) I'm still stuck on the render pipeline, but working through the suggestions you gave me rainemak! Slowly making small steps of progress (so not stuck yet).07:42
pherjung[m]Some French users are complaining SailfishOS get silently unreachable (no way to get a call nor a sms) and nothing inform them07:42
pherjung[m]Has someone already got such issues?07:42
rainemakflypig, realized those embedlite-components errors07:42
rainemakalso created sailfishos-esr91 branches where we can merge changes already07:43
* pherjung[m] uploaded an image: (438KiB) < >07:43
flypigDo you think the embedlite-component errors are likely to be critical for the render? I'm hoping many of them will just break other thing like history say.07:43
flypigThanks for making the branch; I hadn't noticed that.07:44
rainemakflypig, shouldn't be... but to be on the same side just commend out frame script loaded and friends07:44
flypig:thumbsup:    ;)07:44
flypigI'll do that!07:44
rainemaksrc/qmozview_p.cpp:165 it looks07:45
dcalistepherjung[m], do you know the carrier ? The phone models ?07:45
rainemakI doubt there's anything anymore left on the browser side regarding frame scripts07:45
flypigCommented out line 165.07:46
rainemakpherjung[m], that's not good07:46
pherjung[m]dcaliste: X with Orange and X10 II with RED by SFR07:46
dcalisteThanks, not something that I can try to reproduce myself, I'm using Free operator.07:48
rainemakmaybe ncartron could try to reproduce?07:50
rainemaktime's up... 5min over time actually07:50
rainemak#topic Next meeting time and date (5 min)07:50
rainemakProposing Thursday 26th October at 07:00am UTC.07:50
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flypigLooks good. Still no clock changes yet.07:52
flypigI look forward to the extra hour in bed all year ;)07:53
pherjung[m]I'm wondering if it's easy to monitor and trigger a notification07:53
pherjung[m]Maybe watching the connected cells?07:53
ExTechOpTwo weeks from now would be 2023-10-2607:54
rainemakand 29th clocks are turned back 1 hour07:55
rainemakshould we take that into account or not?07:55
rainemakwhen going forward? Either way works for me07:56
rainemakExTechOp, that's copy-paste typo. sorry07:57
rainemak#info Next meeting will be held on Thursday 26th October 2023 at 07:00am UTC: 2023-10-26T0700Z07:57
rainemakThank you everyone! Once again good meeting!07:57
flypigThank you rainemak, everyone!07:58
Crabsterthx #?07:58
dcalisteThank you.07:58
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ExTechOpThanks, everyone!07:59
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