| Crabster | morning | 06:41 |
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| flypig | Good morning! | 06:52 |
| rainemak | Good morning! | 06:55 |
| ExTechOp | Good morning, everyone! | 06:56 |
| longbluesky[m] | Good morning! | 06:56 |
| rainemak | #startmeeting Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 12th Oct 2023 | 07:00 |
| sailbot | Meeting started Thu Oct 12 07:00:00 2023 UTC. The chair is rainemak. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 07:00 |
| sailbot | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 07:00 |
| *** sailbot changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 12th Oct 2023)" | 07:00 | |
| rainemak | #info Meeting information and agenda can be found here: | 07:00 |
| rainemak | #link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-irc-12th-october-2023/16859 | 07:00 |
| rainemak | I am the meeting's chairperson today, and will be doing my best to keep time and order. Please respect the timings and bee-hive. | 07:00 |
| rainemak | #topic Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with #info | 07:00 |
| *** sailbot changes topic to "Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with #info (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 12th Oct 2023)" | 07:00 | |
| flypig | #info David Llewellyn-Jones, community | 07:01 |
| Crabster | #info Crabster - lurker | 07:01 |
| rainemak | #info Raine Mäkeläinen, sailor @ Jolla, chairperson today | 07:03 |
| sebix[m] | #info Sebix, community | 07:03 |
| rainemak | looks like this one is going to community :-) | 07:05 |
| flypig | \o/ | 07:05 |
| sebix[m] | very quiet today :/ | 07:05 |
| rainemak | it seems so | 07:05 |
| rainemak | #topic Jolla and Sailfish OS at FOSDEM (10mins -- asked by flypig) | 07:05 |
| *** sailbot changes topic to "Jolla and Sailfish OS at FOSDEM (10mins -- asked by flypig) (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 12th Oct 2023)" | 07:05 | |
| pherjung[m] | #info pherjung, community | 07:06 |
| rainemak | #info <flypig> Some details about the topic: FOSDEM is scheduled for 3-4 February | 07:06 |
| rainemak | #info <flypig> 2024 in Brussels. Last year Jolla got a great reaction on the Linux | 07:06 |
| rainemak | #info <flypig> on Mobile stand alongside a number of other Mobile Linux | 07:06 |
| rainemak | #info <flypig> distributions. As there are plans for the stand to run again in | 07:06 |
| rainemak | #info <flypig> 2024, are any Sailors planning to attend and, if so, would they | 07:06 |
| rainemak | #info <flypig> be interested to help with the stand either officially or | 07:06 |
| rainemak | #info <flypig> unofficially? The stand CfP was recently released; deadline for | 07:06 |
| rainemak | #info <flypig> submissions is 8th December. | 07:06 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> Thank you flypig! This is a good reminder. However, we have not | 07:06 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> planed this. We'll write down the deadline. | 07:06 |
| ExTechOp | #info Otto Mäkelä, community | 07:07 |
| ExTechOp | (sorry about the delay) | 07:07 |
| rainemak | I'm not aware whether there are sailors planning to attend | 07:07 |
| rainemak | ExTechOp, no problem | 07:07 |
| rainemak | welcome pherjung[m] as well | 07:07 |
| flypig | Thanks rainemak! Just for some additional info, it looks like the Linux on Mobile stand will go ahead (Mobian, Postmarket, SFOS + others). | 07:08 |
| flypig | If any sailors from Jolla are attending, or if anyone from the community would like to help, then that would be really great. Let me know and I can put you in touch. | 07:08 |
| rainemak | Meaning similar setup as last year | 07:08 |
| flypig | It's looking that way yes. There may be some changes because there was so little space last year. And it has to be accepted too! | 07:09 |
| rainemak | certainly | 07:09 |
| flypig | (accepted by the FOSDEM committee). | 07:09 |
| flypig | Also, I'm certainly hoping to attend myself, so looking forward to meeting other Sailfish OS users there! | 07:10 |
| rainemak | It was a great event last time. | 07:11 |
| rainemak | + Sailfish OS meetup | 07:11 |
| rainemak | or dinner I should say | 07:11 |
| flypig | Yes, I really enjoyed it too, there was a great Sailfish contingent there. | 07:12 |
| abr | yeah, was great fun last year | 07:13 |
| abr | #info Andrew Branson, latecomer | 07:13 |
| rainemak | We don't have other topics. I took liberty to handle thigg's question in context of open PR discussion | 07:13 |
| flypig | Thanks rainemak, that answers my question. Please encourage everyone to go ;) | 07:14 |
| rainemak | Let's move on | 07:15 |
| rainemak | #topic Open PR discussion (10 mins -- asked by jolla, thigg, flypig) | 07:15 |
| *** sailbot changes topic to "Open PR discussion (10 mins -- asked by jolla, thigg, flypig) (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 12th Oct 2023)" | 07:15 | |
| rainemak | #info Let's handle thigg's open issue here as well | 07:15 |
| rainemak | #info <flypig> Closed PR URL: [nspr] Update to NSPR 4.35 RTM by llewelld · Pull Request #3 · sailfishos/nspr · GitHub | 07:15 |
| rainemak | #link https://github.com/sailfishos/nspr/pull/3 | 07:15 |
| rainemak | #info <flypig> Not an open PR but a closed one. Just taking the opportunity to thank @mal for his fast turnaround checking and merging it. | 07:15 |
| flypig | There's no action on this one, except to recognise mal's excellent work. | 07:15 |
| rainemak | #info <thigg> Open issue: pausing notifications · Issue #73 · nemomobile-ux/lipstick · GitHub | 07:17 |
| rainemak | #link https://github.com/nemomobile-ux/lipstick/issues/73 | 07:17 |
| rainemak | #info <thigg> I’d like to know what you think of it. | 07:17 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> Report looks good. We just opened issues section to https://github.com/sailfishos/lipstick/issues | 07:17 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> Would be good to clone issue there as well. | 07:17 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> Like commented last time, not bad idea at all. How it is implemented | 07:17 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> is another topic. | 07:17 |
| rainemak | #link https://github.com/sailfishos/lipstick/issues | 07:17 |
| rainemak | Has this raised any further thoughts? | 07:18 |
| flypig | Can someone remind me: does this need changes only in open source components? (sorry; I know we discussed this previously). | 07:21 |
| rainemak | I believe that it requires lipstick-jolla-home changes as well. | 07:22 |
| flypig | Understood; thanks! | 07:22 |
| rainemak | Maybe hackable from lipstick - not sure. | 07:22 |
| dcaliste | #info Damien Caliste, sorry very late | 07:23 |
| flypig | But it does look like there are open-source changes that could be made independently to lipstick, for example, to help support the ljh changes. | 07:23 |
| rainemak | correct | 07:24 |
| rainemak | this looks to be covered already | 07:24 |
| rainemak | so let's move on | 07:24 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> Any other open PRs to discuss? | 07:24 |
| rainemak | afair last time we sorted out some PRs during the meeting :-) | 07:25 |
| rainemak | we can come back to other PRs on generic discussion at the end | 07:26 |
| rainemak | #topic Untracked bug reports (5 min -- asked by pherjung) | 07:26 |
| rainemak | #info <pherjung> Untracked bug reports | 07:26 |
| rainemak | #link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-irc-12th-october-2023/16859/4 | 07:26 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> As always, the Community Bug Coordination Team have done a superb job. | 07:26 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> As a result of their work, we now have: | 07:26 |
| *** sailbot changes topic to "Untracked bug reports (5 min -- asked by pherjung) (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 12th Oct 2023)" | 07:26 | |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> 9 high quality bug reports now recorded internally and tagged as "tracked". | 07:26 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> 1 bug waiting for more input. | 07:26 |
| rainemak | https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/calendar-alarms-dont-work-for-recurring-events-since-sfos-4-5-x-x-solved/15263/40 this is looks be triggering still | 07:28 |
| dcaliste | rainemak, about this one: https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/calendar-alarms-dont-work-for-recurring-events-since-sfos-4-5-x-x-solved/15263/44 I'll give a look later today or tomorrow on the alarm not working for recurring events without end. | 07:28 |
| dcaliste | ;-) | 07:28 |
| rainemak | same timing :-) | 07:28 |
| dcaliste | I'll see if I can reproduce and will report there. | 07:28 |
| rainemak | thank you dcaliste | 07:28 |
| dcaliste | Actually the master branch has a completely rewritten handle of the recurring alarms, so it may work on master while still being broken on 4.5.0.24. Or broken on both. I'll see. | 07:30 |
| rainemak | yeah, master is quite far. do you think it'd be possible to "merge" master to upgrade-4.5.0? | 07:31 |
| rainemak | i.e. are there much changes on the upper layers of the stack | 07:31 |
| rainemak | I know that technically rebase or merge for mkcal is not a big deal | 07:32 |
| dcaliste | Indeed, I need to check in nemo-qml-plugin-calendar. Doing it at the moment… | 07:34 |
| dcaliste | For instance, there is https://github.com/sailfishos/nemo-qml-plugin-calendar/commit/c5fab03c1504abf40bf66a9cb5dc44c43b437e3b | 07:35 |
| dcaliste | Checking if 4.5.0.24 mkcal contains this change for instance… | 07:35 |
| rainemak | updating nemo-qml-plugin-calendar could be doable | 07:36 |
| rainemak | as well | 07:36 |
| dcaliste | Which may have incidence on jolla-calendar. Checking also… | 07:37 |
| dcaliste | Yeh, this commit 7d016719 there is a large API change. Which requires to upgrade mkcal, nemo-qml-plugin-calendar and jolla-calendar in accordance. | 07:39 |
| dcaliste | But to be back on the issue reported on forum, I'll see if a fix can be done in upgrade-4.5.0 branch and see if this fix need to be propagated to master. | 07:40 |
| rainemak | thank you | 07:40 |
| rainemak | Let's move on to the general discussion. | 07:40 |
| rainemak | #topic General discussion (5 min) | 07:40 |
| *** sailbot changes topic to "General discussion (5 min) (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 12th Oct 2023)" | 07:40 | |
| rainemak | flypig, do you have any updates on the esr91 work other than your diary? | 07:41 |
| flypig | It continues :) I'm still stuck on the render pipeline, but working through the suggestions you gave me rainemak! Slowly making small steps of progress (so not stuck yet). | 07:42 |
| pherjung[m] | Some French users are complaining SailfishOS get silently unreachable (no way to get a call nor a sms) and nothing inform them | 07:42 |
| pherjung[m] | Has someone already got such issues? | 07:42 |
| rainemak | flypig, realized those embedlite-components errors | 07:42 |
| rainemak | also created sailfishos-esr91 branches where we can merge changes already | 07:43 |
| * pherjung[m] uploaded an image: (438KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/SpCYYXnDnzgSVxGXTpXMgDrW/5850722768826514962_119.jpg > | 07:43 | |
| flypig | Do you think the embedlite-component errors are likely to be critical for the render? I'm hoping many of them will just break other thing like history say. | 07:43 |
| flypig | Thanks for making the branch; I hadn't noticed that. | 07:44 |
| rainemak | flypig, shouldn't be... but to be on the same side just commend out frame script loaded and friends | 07:44 |
| rainemak | s/same/safe/ | 07:44 |
| flypig | :thumbsup: ;) | 07:44 |
| flypig | I'll do that! | 07:44 |
| rainemak | src/qmozview_p.cpp:165 it looks | 07:45 |
| dcaliste | pherjung[m], do you know the carrier ? The phone models ? | 07:45 |
| rainemak | I doubt there's anything anymore left on the browser side regarding frame scripts | 07:45 |
| flypig | Commented out line 165. | 07:46 |
| rainemak | pherjung[m], that's not good | 07:46 |
| pherjung[m] | dcaliste: X with Orange and X10 II with RED by SFR | 07:46 |
| dcaliste | Thanks, not something that I can try to reproduce myself, I'm using Free operator. | 07:48 |
| rainemak | maybe ncartron could try to reproduce? | 07:50 |
| rainemak | time's up... 5min over time actually | 07:50 |
| rainemak | #topic Next meeting time and date (5 min) | 07:50 |
| rainemak | Proposing Thursday 26th October at 07:00am UTC. | 07:50 |
| *** sailbot changes topic to "Next meeting time and date (5 min) (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 12th Oct 2023)" | 07:50 | |
| flypig | Looks good. Still no clock changes yet. | 07:52 |
| flypig | I look forward to the extra hour in bed all year ;) | 07:53 |
| pherjung[m] | I'm wondering if it's easy to monitor and trigger a notification | 07:53 |
| pherjung[m] | Maybe watching the connected cells? | 07:53 |
| ExTechOp | Two weeks from now would be 2023-10-26 | 07:54 |
| rainemak | and 29th clocks are turned back 1 hour | 07:55 |
| rainemak | should we take that into account or not? | 07:55 |
| rainemak | when going forward? Either way works for me | 07:56 |
| rainemak | ExTechOp, that's copy-paste typo. sorry | 07:57 |
| rainemak | #info Next meeting will be held on Thursday 26th October 2023 at 07:00am UTC: 2023-10-26T0700Z | 07:57 |
| rainemak | Thank you everyone! Once again good meeting! | 07:57 |
| flypig | Thank you rainemak, everyone! | 07:58 |
| Crabster | thx #? | 07:58 |
| dcaliste | Thank you. | 07:58 |
| rainemak | #endmeeting | 07:58 |
| sailbot | Meeting ended Thu Oct 12 07:58:51 2023 UTC. | 07:58 |
| sailbot | Minutes: https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2023/sailfishos-meeting.2023-10-12-07.00.html | 07:58 |
| sailbot | Minutes (text): https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2023/sailfishos-meeting.2023-10-12-07.00.txt | 07:58 |
| sailbot | Log: https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2023/sailfishos-meeting.2023-10-12-07.00.log.html | 07:58 |
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| ExTechOp | Thanks, everyone! | 07:59 |
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